I've had a set of disc brakes for my 73 beetle sitting in my garage for 20 years, I thought it was beyond me to install them. This video is so great... The bit that turned me off of trying was installing new ball joints, I didn't realize I could just leave the old one's on...
You don’t need to replace your ball joints, unless they are bad of course. I hope this video is helpful. But… you might want to pause temporarily. I am doing a video, it will be up within days. On how to assemble a complete front beam. I think I’ve gotten a tiny bit better with the camera now over the years. That’s an older video. You’ll be able to see when I put the spindle on, which would include your disc brake set up. I’m installing drum set up, but it’s the same process.
@@SladesVWBeetle to be honest with you I found your channel and thought, oh well just another RUclips vw beetle channel... But honestly sir, I'm now addicted to your content. Best regards to you and your wife from the far north of the Shetland Islands (Scotland)
Thank you very much, that was very nice of you. I just do what I can, I’m nothing special. But I do enjoy helping others. Thank you so much for being here.
Hi it's me again,just watched the break video....it is so great having someone make easy understanding vids. THANK YOU MASTER TEACHER! I wish you lived close by always millions of questions...lol...KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! I LEARN A LOT FROM YOU! YOURS,ROBERT
Great timing! I got the exact lowering & drop spindle kit recently and got around to tackling the project last weekend. I appreciate your clear instructions.
Once again an excellent crystal clear DIY video. Thanks for this absolutely fine and understandable conversion to disc brakes. By the way would like a video on brake bleeding. With your talent to make a subject clear and simple, I would bet many of us would benefit with that video. Please consider making that video for we viewers.
Thanks very much James! I will definitely do that, I have to do a complete braking system upgrade on my 68. So I will make sure to include the bleeding procedure. I hope you have a great upcoming weekend.
I decided to order a disc brake conversion kit after watching this video. I'm getting a 68 Baja ready for my granddaughters first car. I haven't watched TV for the past ten years or so, I love RUclips though because its entertaining and videos like yours are so helpful. Thanks and keep up the good work! PS... i won't giver her the keys until she gives me her word she'll subscribe to your channel 😉
Good informative video as usual.... when I get a notification that you have a new video I know that I will enjoy another Beetle video. Good job. Cheers from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺.
Hey brother thanks for being here, I need to hop over to your channel and catch up. I think you might’ve noticed on the other side of the net had some issues going on.
Most excellent video. I just bought me a 69 Manx Dune Buggy and I plan going through it top to bottom and I was going to save the Disc Brake job for last but.....not now. First will be the Big Boy kit for my Fat Feet, then the front Disc job. I must say, you are one Smart and Talented man!! Thanks brother!!
Used ur socket method but used a heavy sledge hammer b4 seein this 2nd vid of urs and the weight of it made the races go in easier. Did everything as you did. Im thankful you made these videos. It made my weekend easy.
Just the video I needed. Going to tackle this in the next few days. I think I will not be touching the drum except pulling the speedo and just knocking the three big nuts off and leaving all the outer disassembled. Again nice video, I watched several others that completely skipped this part. Derp.
@@SladesVWBeetle I have not uploaded nothing this week. I have been working with the front suspension, I got new inserts. Took everything apart, wheels brushing and painting to put everything back together.😀
Love the video mate. My 73 came standard in NZ with front discs so I was just watching for fun. Great tip I picked up tho is spinning the new callipers on rather than breaking a sealed hose.
Well done, excellent, clear camera work! I don't think you showed the speed cable reinstall, but I assume that it just gets routed through the way it came out - nothing tricky. I, for one, would appreciate a brake bleed demo at some point. Quite an archive you are creating here!!
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I did mess up, I thought the cameras recording when I did the speedometer cable install. Of course I will have to do it on my 68 so I’ll be showing it on there. And the bleeding procedure.
That was excellent. I'm about to start releasing videos of me bringing my 61 Karmann Ghia back to life and will definitely need to do this at some point. It's easily the best explanation video I've seen. Nice work mate, subbed 👍😎
@@SladesVWBeetle 1968-74 spindles Ghia's fit. 67 spindles use a smaller dimeter outer tie rods. Also they come with backing plates. Its what I got on my 76 Bug.
@@vintage76vipergreenBeetle I remember reading that on a parts website, the outer tie rod they went larger with in 68. I know quite a few people use the ghia set up. Do you recommend it more than the aftermarket stuff? Probably a stupid question in all honesty. 😂
Why didn't you change the cracked boots on the lower ball joints at 20:45? Love the video. I brought a 1973 SB back to life in 1988 while in college. Ran it for 2 years. Survived a black ice spin out that bent the passenger tie rod. Because there is no wt in the front, I drove 30miles with the passenger tire pointed in 30* angle!. 2 hrs later I arrived home with steel radials showing through the tire. It never blew the tire. The next day, into a vise grip to straighten the tie rod and drove it another 6mo. What a car it was!
Nice job..Been gathering parts here because its winter but doing a conversion on a 68 Beetle i purchased..i am just gathering parts for now and waiting till spring to do the work..One problem i am facing is i noticed the disc brakes were already done on my Bug but the drop spindles were NOT done.. so i bought drop spindles by Empi part # 22-2951..The conversion on the brakes were done by previous owner and he used Empi part # 22-2983 ..I didn't know the disc brake conversion kit part number until after i bought the drop spindles and i bought the spindles because the description said Spindles for Beetles that already has disc brakes..After learning the disc brake kit already installed was part 22-2983 and read the description for it.. there it says it will NOT work with drop spindles..I wish i would have done my home work and knew this before i bought the drop spindles..So i called and asked why they wouldn't fit and i am told they WILL fit but i need to delete these brackets on the disc brake conversion kit that supports the calipers because they are not needed with the spindles i bought because these spindles already have the holes needed to bolt the Calipers to the Spindle and those brackets had to be used in the disc brake kit with the old stock Spindles..Do you know this to be true by any chance ? BTW.. thanks for the video it does answer some questions i had..
After this earlier post describing my dilemma with the Empi disc brake conversion kit that was previously installed ( part number 22-2983 ) prior to my purchase of the drop spindles ( 22-2951 )... i finally took the job on yesterday and am happy to note the spindles do work and i only needed to delete the bracket supporting the brake caliper thats used on the disc brake conversion kit ( 22-2983 ) because the spindles already have the holes needed to support the calipers.. Not sure why the description on the drop spindle kit says it won't work when they simply could have said to delete the bracket ...but being the back yard mechanic i usually don't tackle too many jobs on a car that could get me in trouble but i have to say that the drop spindle conversion wasn't too bad..The right tool for the right job is most important here meaning mostly the ball joint separator.. i used the clamp like separator and not the fork to minimalize any possible unforeseen damage hammering on it..took about an hour for each side..This video helped me with the confidence to tackle this and thank you for sharing it
Thanks very much I truly appreciate that. I have a lot of catching up to do on your channel and many others. I’ve been busy working on my house mostly.
Question! I'm installing the same kit on my '69 Beetle. After I put the seal over the inner bearing, there is still a space between the seal and the bearing, so that the bearing can move around. I know the spindle will keep it tight, but should the seal not come down and at least lightly contact the face of the inner bearing? Reason I ask is that there is a very thin coily wire set inside the face of the bearing and it seems like that coily wire could easily come out. Maybe when the rotor is tightened up to the spindle it will compress the bearing so that the coily wire is secure? Love your videos! Very helpful for a new guy like me
Great video... not sure I am ready for either drop spindles or discs (just re-did complete drum system on the '74 SB), but enjoyed the watch all the same. Tell ya what though, Casey's beetle is hella quiet and smooth sounding/appearing (especially through 1st gear), when compared to mine. Thanks as always Slade, keep 'em coming.
Thank you so much for being here, and thanks for the kind comments. He truly has a nice solid car. We’re going to do a dash pad replacement on it shortly, and I want to replace a tie rod end. I don’t mind helping friends out that’s what it’s all about. Then I will be getting back to work on my 68...and filming possibly two times a week on it.
I have heard when you’re running four wheel disc you need a large bore master cylinder. I have not done it myself yet because I never needed rear disc. I just don’t see the need to. I imagine it must need a lot more fluid pump to the back I’m just guessing.
@@SladesVWBeetle on the 21st of Feb I am heading to NM to seal the deal on my first VW VERT 1971 super beetle. I am stoked. These videos are so helpful pls keep them coming. Thanks again.
Hey Slade, Love your channel. Just started watching and really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I have a 1966 Bug with a front disc brake conversion and need to know how to replace the pads. Do you know of a good video of how this is done or will you possibly do one someday? Looks like they are Varga or TRW 1502 calipers... not sure if that helps. I could just take them apart and maybe figure it out, but have enough pad left to leave alone and research first. Thank you, Jay / Ocean Park Wa.
@@jaywenzel8042 hi Jay, thank you for being here. I truly appreciate it. Oddly enough, I was going to do an extra video over the next couple of weeks. Installing my rotors and calipers from Empi. Not sure if they’re exactly the same. But if they are, I can add into the video on how to replace the brake pads like remove the caliber back off and show it.
That would be so nice of you. I would sure appreciate it. I have searched all over on RUclips and cannot find one video replacing the pads on a conversion. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@ consider it done. It will take a couple of weeks. I have some things to do. I’m trying to guess if mine is the same as yours, the calipers. But there shouldn’t be much difference. Stop in the live chat if you can. I go on Friday night at 9 PM eastern on the channel here. Merry Christmas, my friend.
I have a ‘68 with drop spindles with drum brakes and 165 tires. I have about 1/2 inch clearance on each side to the fenders. Would changing to disc brakes cause rubbing?
Honestly they are awesome on the front. Just me…but, The only way I would put them on the back, as if I had some serious power. But then again, it’s definitely a nice upgrade though!! Better and quicker stopping power. And maintenance free from drum adjusting
There is one complaint I have with the empi disc setup is that none of the bolts have lock collars or spring washers. Lesson for the day ( righty loosey, lefty tighty )
I’m not a real big fan of Empi. I was when I was young in the early 80s, but not as much now. I feel they have went downhill a lot. But that’s just my opinion of course.
I’m having a hell of a time getting the tie rod to come out. Any suggestions for one being stubborn? I’m whacking the snot out of the knuckle with a hammer, but it’s not budging.
Hey, what brand of 2 1/2" drop spindles do you recommend? I have wanted a lowered bug most of my life! Just got one and have the money to do this. Thanks!!
@@KevinBoswell-l1r the kit that I put on this car was supplied by my friend. The owner of the car. He bought a complete empi kit. I actually have no problems with using their stuff depending on what it is. CB performance I believe hazard really nice kit also. Probably a little more expensive.
I saw the Empi brand on the rotors from the video, but wasn’t sure on the drop spindles. I have disk brakes on mine already. Just wanted to check with you before I bought some. As usual - great info!! Thank you so much!!
Again a great video, Slade, thanks a lot! I own a super beetle from 1974 and also installed disk brakes. It is indeed a big improvement on brake performance. However they keep squeaking, especially if I brake just a little. Do you have a suggestion how I can get rid of it?
First of all thank you Jan, and thank you for taking the time to watch the video. And welcome aboard. Squeaking can be very annoying and I’ve had that on quite a few cars. I prefer to always use the disc brake quiet on the back of the pads, of course not the side that is coming in contact with the rotor!
@@JanStruik1952 you’re very welcome. You’ll have to remove the pads and coat the back of them and let them dry. Hopefully that works out for you. Unless you were having rust film? From the car sitting?
@@SladesVWBeetle Hi Slade, I just applied 'B-quiet' . I think it is similar to 'disc brake quiet'. Anyway it did solve the problem. Thanks again for the advice! And keep on making great videos!!
I like them Michael they make a big difference. Doing the fronts is where most of the braking power is. If you’re going high horsepower, then doing the backs, I would definitely do. Any of the big vendors, Jbugs, Cip1….They’re all about the same with that stuff.
As you add in new brake caliper to the Beetle's front wheel. And you didn't add any shim But I see more gap on the between the outside brake pad than the inside brake pad's gap. Please, add more shim between the caliper and the knuckle spindle to add a little more space(gap) between the inside brake pad and disc. So because it wears out both brake pads even per wheel. Otherwise the pad wears out more than the other pad on same wheel. Thank you.
I’m new to the Volkswagen scene, and diy mechanics. Why did you say it was a 2 1/2” drop spindle? Did you actually drop the front end? All you said at the end was it was a good front disk change.
The spindles are a 2 1/2 inch drop, which lowers the front end. It had 2 1/2 inch drops for drums so I swapped them with the disc kit. Much better stopping with the disc. And the drop spindles make a nice stance.
@@SladesVWBeetle Thanks - I wasn't thinking to do the hub/calipers to make them sexy(i.e. 'arrest me red') but rather for rust avoidance. I've seen a couple videos on painting - Not sure if it is worth my time. Thanks again for the video - I've got the parts in the garage just never can find the time, I just called AutoZone - they have the bearing race set tools for loan.
That was the Empi kit, I believe it came from Jbugs. I did not lower the rear since it’s not my car. But I will be doing it on my 68 that I am in the process of restoring
Great video! Just wondering, how long did it take to complete the swap? And was there any clearance issues with tire rub? Your replies are always appreciated!
Looks like the bug already had drop spindles, only the drum versions previously... so shouldn't have changed anything in terms of tire fitment/rubbing.
Honestly I could’ve probably did it in about 45 minutes. A fairly easy job. He has 145s.. the front, so I am really not sure if it would rub with stock 165’s. But I will be finding out when I put them on my 68. 😁
I have a ‘68 with drop spindles and drums with 165 tires. I was wondering if they would rub also with the disk upgrade. I have maybe 1/2 inch clearance to the fenders now.
That’s great news Anthony, I think it’s a great upgrade. On the backs, I would probably only do it if I was pumping some pretty serious horsepower. But of course that’s just my opinion. A little bit wider of tires also can help with quicker stopping power. More tread on the ground.
@@EpicVitto you’re very welcome, I appreciate you being here. Honestly, the closer you keep them to stock the better they run. I know people will argue about that, but it’s the truth. If you’re interested in having your beetle on the website in the members section please feel free to send me an email....check out the members section of the website. sladesvwbeetle.com
Just done the exact same conversion, bled brakes but still spongy only engage when pedal almost at the floor and pulls slightly to the right. Gets a little better when i pump them, I was going to bleed the brakes again. But do you have any other suggestions ie the master cylinder? Thanks
Do you mean as in bleeding the master cylinder? I’m sorry I didn’t understand what you meant at the end. I actually like to gravity bleed, and then bleed with somebody pumping the pedal. Gravity bleeding usually helps out a lot
@Slades VW Beetle Thanks for the reply!! I found my issue, the rear brake cylinder in the hub on the rear passenger side is leaking so allowing air into the system, so the gravity bleed etc was never going to work..
@@SladesVWBeetle 😂😂😂 Life has been good. Had the beetle out Thursday night for Mingle on Main in Saxonburg. As I was driving over the bug really started to run like $h|t. Poppin an back firing. WTF. Pulled over an opened the deck. Here the distributor cap was just bouncing around on the 009. 1. How the heck was it still going down the road? 2. Gotta love just wiping the cap out of dust, snapping it on then driving away like nothing ever happened.
@@SladesVWBeetle silly really not to whilst it's stripped, here in the UK it would fail its yearly roadworthiness test (MOT) and wouldn't be allowed on the road.
this is the second drop spindle video ive seen ,where the spindles are changed but not the clearly fucked ball joints ,do it once do it right otherwise whats the point????????
Wow, looks like the brakes actually work good on that. Might need to upgrade from drums to discs myself next year when I get a narrowed beam. Great advise… don’t be a bonehead 🤣
I can only advise what needs done sadly. It’s not my car. However, oddly enough it will be here in a few months to get a new dash put in and other things. I told him….I need to do the ball joints!! 😁
This video made me laugh. Typical 20 something year old of today . Anyone else notice the dad is working and the derelict son is sitting in the background with the look of confusion as to what’s happening and then shows him playing games on his phone while the dad does all the work. Unreal.
Excellent video! Enjoyed the ride! You two are so fun to watch!!!!!
Thanks so much hunny, you need to get back into some videos and help out!
@@SladesVWBeetle Absolutely! Would love to get some garage time / learning time with you!
I've had a set of disc brakes for my 73 beetle sitting in my garage for 20 years, I thought it was beyond me to install them.
This video is so great...
The bit that turned me off of trying was installing new ball joints, I didn't realize I could just leave the old one's on...
You don’t need to replace your ball joints, unless they are bad of course. I hope this video is helpful.
But… you might want to pause temporarily. I am doing a video, it will be up within days.
On how to assemble a complete front beam. I think I’ve gotten a tiny bit better with the camera now over the years.
That’s an older video.
You’ll be able to see when I put the spindle on, which would include your disc brake set up. I’m installing drum set up, but it’s the same process.
@@SladesVWBeetle to be honest with you I found your channel and thought, oh well just another RUclips vw beetle channel... But honestly sir, I'm now addicted to your content. Best regards to you and your wife from the far north of the Shetland Islands (Scotland)
Thank you very much, that was very nice of you. I just do what I can, I’m nothing special. But I do enjoy helping others. Thank you so much for being here.
Hi it's me again,just watched the break video....it is so great having someone make easy understanding vids.
THANK YOU MASTER TEACHER!
I wish you lived close by always millions of questions...lol...KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! I LEARN
A LOT FROM YOU!
YOURS,ROBERT
Thank you!! I appreciate the kind words!
Sunny Saturday means I’ll be wrenching on the bug watching your videos!
Outstanding! Enjoy your weekend, and be safe. Thanks for being here.
I just want to say you are awesome, now i get why some people like to watch cooking shows, i’m learning a lot from you, grtz from the Netherlands
Thank you very much Ken!! That was very nice of you, and thank you so much for being here. I watch a guy called Food Wishes cooking show 😁
It’s always very good to watch your videos. Your instructions are very clear especially for those who are new. Thank you.
Thanks very much!!!
Hey Hector,
Happy day to y’all! You and your side kick are having fun, and that’s great!
Great timing! I got the exact lowering & drop spindle kit recently and got around to tackling the project last weekend. I appreciate your clear instructions.
Outstanding, I’m glad it was helpful. And thank you for being here I appreciate it.
Once again an excellent crystal clear DIY video. Thanks for this absolutely fine and understandable conversion to disc brakes. By the way would like a video on brake bleeding. With your talent to make a subject clear and simple, I would bet many of us would benefit with that video. Please consider making that video for we viewers.
Thanks very much James! I will definitely do that, I have to do a complete braking system upgrade on my 68.
So I will make sure to include the bleeding procedure. I hope you have a great upcoming weekend.
@@SladesVWBeetle Thanks Slades, much appreciated.
I decided to order a disc brake conversion kit after watching this video. I'm getting a 68 Baja ready for my granddaughters first car.
I haven't watched TV for the past ten years or so, I love RUclips though because its entertaining and videos like yours are so helpful.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
PS... i won't giver her the keys until she gives me her word she'll subscribe to your channel 😉
Good informative video as usual.... when I get a notification that you have a new video I know that I will enjoy another Beetle video. Good job. Cheers from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺.
Thank you so much....and thank you for always for being here I truly appreciate that so much. I hope you have a great upcoming weekend.
Second, lol Glad to see you dropped a new video. Stance and stopping power is always a great thing.
Hey brother thanks for being here, I need to hop over to your channel and catch up. I think you might’ve noticed on the other side of the net had some issues going on.
Most excellent video. I just bought me a 69 Manx Dune Buggy and I plan going through it top to bottom and I was going to save the Disc Brake job for last but.....not now. First will be the Big Boy kit for my Fat Feet, then the front Disc job. I must say, you are one Smart and Talented man!! Thanks brother!!
Thanks brother! I appreciate that!
That looks easy, and i will let you know how it goes for me! Thanks for another great video!
Used ur socket method but used a heavy sledge hammer b4 seein this 2nd vid of urs and the weight of it made the races go in easier. Did everything as you did. Im thankful you made these videos. It made my weekend easy.
Thanks very much, I’m glad the video was of some help to you! Thanks for being here.
I put a set of disc brake rotors and calipers on my trike and I love them. So much better stopping power and no pulling or adjusting.
Oh I bet it’s a big difference Randall, it’s nice when you don’t have to constantly adjust.
@@SladesVWBeetle It's probably one of the best upgrades I've done to my trike.
@@SladesVWBeetle They were a little tight at first but after a week of break in they're getting better and better.
Just the video I needed. Going to tackle this in the next few days. I think I will not be touching the drum except pulling the speedo and just knocking the three big nuts off and leaving all the outer disassembled. Again nice video, I watched several others that completely skipped this part. Derp.
nice one. gave me something to watch during lunch on a rainy day.
Thanks Scotty I got a hop over to your channel and see what you’re up to. I think it’s been raining here nonstop I’m ready to build an ark.
The flat side goes in first, I would still get it wrong, 😂! Keep up the good work my friend, y’all stay safe
I love your videos, I have a 1970 beetle and I've learned so much from you.
Thank you! I’m sorry I missed this!
Excellent video, awesome to do an upgrade that makes the Bug more enjoyable, those early 70's Bugs drive nice.
Thank you very much Dave! And thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
As you talk I am making list of everything I need to do on my bug 👍🏼👍🏼
@@iddybiddyladybugleeza909 outstanding! I try to make a list up, and then of course I end up spending more than I realized lol
Good 👍 job Slades. I converted mine and like you said I did a small test drive and I am so glad I did the conversion. Great video brother.
Thanks, I truly appreciate the kind words. I really hope you have been doing well, I’ll be hopping over to your channel this evening.
@@SladesVWBeetle I have not uploaded nothing this week. I have been working with the front suspension, I got new inserts. Took everything apart, wheels brushing and painting to put everything back together.😀
Excellent vid, thanks for the candid nature.
And thank you for being here David, I hope you have a great day
Great video man. You're so right about the disk upgrade. Did it to my 69 bettle big improvement. Thanks for the ride along. Have a great weekend 😁
Thank you Eugene, and thank you for being here weekly. Much more to come. I hope that you have a great upcoming weekend my friend.
Well done slade, again a very nice video.
Thanks so much my friend, and thank you for the message you sent me. I did even that out before I was finished. 😁
Love the video mate. My 73 came standard in NZ with front discs so I was just watching for fun. Great tip I picked up tho is spinning the new callipers on rather than breaking a sealed hose.
Thanks for being her Mike I truly appreciate it. Oh that was nice yours came with the front discs already.....that’s a luxury!
Well done, excellent, clear camera work! I don't think you showed the speed cable reinstall, but I assume that it just gets routed through the way it came out - nothing tricky. I, for one, would appreciate a brake bleed demo at some point. Quite an archive you are creating here!!
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I did mess up, I thought the cameras recording when I did the speedometer cable install. Of course I will have to do it on my 68 so I’ll be showing it on there. And the bleeding procedure.
That was excellent. I'm about to start releasing videos of me bringing my 61 Karmann Ghia back to life and will definitely need to do this at some point. It's easily the best explanation video I've seen. Nice work mate, subbed 👍😎
Subbed back just now!!!
Damn it! all your "wows" and "this is really smooth" makes me wanna upgrade. We're all consumers anyway.
Its honestly worth the upgrade!
Karmann Ghia, disc brake spindles are a great upgrade also.
Yes, I have heard that from quite a few people. I’ve never tried it myself yet.
@@SladesVWBeetle 1968-74 spindles Ghia's fit. 67 spindles use a smaller dimeter outer tie rods. Also they come with backing plates. Its what I got on my 76 Bug.
@@vintage76vipergreenBeetle I remember reading that on a parts website, the outer tie rod they went larger with in 68. I know quite a few people use the ghia set up.
Do you recommend it more than the aftermarket stuff? Probably a stupid question in all honesty. 😂
Nice video slades great information about the drop spindle awesome 👍🏻👍🏻take care and stay safe
Thanks very much Antonio! And thank you so much for being here, I truly appreciate it.
Great video, Slade, thanks a lot. A really informative series!
Thank you John, and thanks for being part of the community here. Much, much more to come.
The videos you put out are great thanks for the time you put into it and the info I appreciate it very much
Thank you Charles for the comment...I truly appreciate that.
Why didn't you change the cracked boots on the lower ball joints at 20:45?
Love the video.
I brought a 1973 SB back to life in 1988 while in college. Ran it for 2 years. Survived a black ice spin out that bent the passenger tie rod. Because there is no wt in the front, I drove 30miles with the passenger tire pointed in 30* angle!. 2 hrs later I arrived home with steel radials showing through the tire. It never blew the tire. The next day, into a vise grip to straighten the tie rod and drove it another 6mo. What a car it was!
WOW!! Luckily you were not hurt!! These cars are pretty tough! I did show him a few things that needed attention! And let him know it needed replaced.
very cool awesome detail video ..... thanks for sharing
Nice job..Been gathering parts here because its winter but doing a conversion on a 68 Beetle i purchased..i am just gathering parts for now and waiting till spring to do the work..One problem i am facing is i noticed the disc brakes were already done on my Bug but the drop spindles were NOT done.. so i bought drop spindles by Empi part # 22-2951..The conversion on the brakes were done by previous owner and he used Empi part # 22-2983 ..I didn't know the disc brake conversion kit part number until after i bought the drop spindles and i bought the spindles because the description said Spindles for Beetles that already has disc brakes..After learning the disc brake kit already installed was part 22-2983 and read the description for it.. there it says it will NOT work with drop spindles..I wish i would have done my home work and knew this before i bought the drop spindles..So i called and asked why they wouldn't fit and i am told they WILL fit but i need to delete these brackets on the disc brake conversion kit that supports the calipers because they are not needed with the spindles i bought because these spindles already have the holes needed to bolt the Calipers to the Spindle and those brackets had to be used in the disc brake kit with the old stock Spindles..Do you know this to be true by any chance ? BTW.. thanks for the video it does answer some questions i had..
After this earlier post describing my dilemma with the Empi disc brake conversion kit that was previously installed ( part number 22-2983 ) prior to my purchase of the drop spindles ( 22-2951 )... i finally took the job on yesterday and am happy to note the spindles do work and i only needed to delete the bracket supporting the brake caliper thats used on the disc brake conversion kit ( 22-2983 ) because the spindles already have the holes needed to support the calipers.. Not sure why the description on the drop spindle kit says it won't work when they simply could have said to delete the bracket ...but being the back yard mechanic i usually don't tackle too many jobs on a car that could get me in trouble but i have to say that the drop spindle conversion wasn't too bad..The right tool for the right job is most important here meaning mostly the ball joint separator.. i used the clamp like separator and not the fork to minimalize any possible unforeseen damage hammering on it..took about an hour for each side..This video helped me with the confidence to tackle this and thank you for sharing it
Great video…you make it look easy. I’m thinking of going to disc brakes in the front on my bug
Go for it. Great upgrade for driving on today's roads.
Thanks very much, I appreciate that. It’s really a fairly easy job. It doesn’t make a difference, I think it is definitely worth it.
Nice job. You made it look easy. Just getting cought up on my you tube watching.
Thanks very much I truly appreciate that. I have a lot of catching up to do on your channel and many others. I’ve been busy working on my house mostly.
@@SladesVWBeetle haha same
Question! I'm installing the same kit on my '69 Beetle. After I put the seal over the inner bearing, there is still a space between the seal and the bearing, so that the bearing can move around. I know the spindle will keep it tight, but should the seal not come down and at least lightly contact the face of the inner bearing? Reason I ask is that there is a very thin coily wire set inside the face of the bearing and it seems like that coily wire could easily come out. Maybe when the rotor is tightened up to the spindle it will compress the bearing so that the coily wire is secure? Love your videos! Very helpful for a new guy like me
Great video... not sure I am ready for either drop spindles or discs (just re-did complete drum system on the '74 SB), but enjoyed the watch all the same.
Tell ya what though, Casey's beetle is hella quiet and smooth sounding/appearing (especially through 1st gear), when compared to mine.
Thanks as always Slade, keep 'em coming.
Thank you so much for being here, and thanks for the kind comments.
He truly has a nice solid car.
We’re going to do a dash pad replacement on it shortly, and I want to replace a tie rod end.
I don’t mind helping friends out that’s what it’s all about.
Then I will be getting back to work on my 68...and filming possibly two times a week on it.
Good video 👍👍, but I just want to know how the meter cable is conneted when the disc break is used …. tq sir
Thanks for posting
Thank you!
you make it look easy. really appreciate all your effort. when you go to rear disc brakes do you have to go to a bigger master cylinder? why?
I have heard when you’re running four wheel disc you need a large bore master cylinder. I have not done it myself yet because I never needed rear disc.
I just don’t see the need to. I imagine it must need a lot more fluid pump to the back I’m just guessing.
ty for the video big help buddy
Absolutely my friend! And thank you so much for being here weekly.
Excellent videos
Thank you very much!!
@@SladesVWBeetle on the 21st of Feb I am heading to NM to seal the deal on my first VW VERT 1971 super beetle. I am stoked. These videos are so helpful pls keep them coming. Thanks again.
@@williewillteeztorres8502 That is so awesome! Don’t forget to go to my website, my email is there and give me an update on how it went. Good luck!
Hey Slade, Love your channel. Just started watching and really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I have a 1966 Bug with a front disc brake conversion and need to know how to replace the pads. Do you know of a good video of how this is done or will you possibly do one someday? Looks like they are Varga or TRW 1502 calipers... not sure if that helps.
I could just take them apart and maybe figure it out, but have enough pad left to leave alone and research first.
Thank you,
Jay / Ocean Park Wa.
@@jaywenzel8042 hi Jay, thank you for being here. I truly appreciate it. Oddly enough, I was going to do an extra video over the next couple of weeks. Installing my rotors and calipers from Empi. Not sure if they’re exactly the same. But if they are, I can add into the video on how to replace the brake pads like remove the caliber back off and show it.
That would be so nice of you. I would sure appreciate it. I have searched all over on RUclips and cannot find one video replacing the pads on a conversion.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@ consider it done. It will take a couple of weeks. I have some things to do. I’m trying to guess if mine is the same as yours, the calipers. But there shouldn’t be much difference. Stop in the live chat if you can. I go on Friday night at 9 PM eastern on the channel here. Merry Christmas, my friend.
Another great video.
Thanks so much I truly appreciate that!
Nice job loved the video.
Thanks very much I truly appreciate your kind comment.
Great informative video makes me wana get mine done and go for a drive so bad!
I was having a blast driving his car. He’s really a great guy. I told him he needs stuff done to bring it over! Really was a nice upgrade.
@@SladesVWBeetle definitely an upgrade I'd do, but fortunately mine came with disc brakes as standard when new 😁
@@GT.Bugger wow! That is outstanding.
@@SladesVWBeetle also came with a higher ratio gearbox which made it the fastest production beetle made.
much accomplished. you’ve come a long way keep grinding 💪
Did the tires rub after lowering the front?
Already had dropped spindles but for the drums.
He’s running 145s on the front, so there’s no rubbing. I’m not quite sure of 165 factories would rub or not. I’ll find out when I do my car. 😁
I have a ‘68 with drop spindles with drum brakes and 165 tires. I have about 1/2 inch clearance on each side to the fenders. Would changing to disc brakes cause rubbing?
Honestly I believe the disc brake set up, is offset further out slightly.
Do you recommend putting disk brakes on the back?
Honestly they are awesome on the front. Just me…but, The only way I would put them on the back, as if I had some serious power. But then again, it’s definitely a nice upgrade though!! Better and quicker stopping power. And maintenance free from drum adjusting
There is one complaint I have with the empi disc setup is that none of the bolts have lock collars or spring washers.
Lesson for the day ( righty loosey, lefty tighty )
I’m not a real big fan of Empi. I was when I was young in the early 80s, but not as much now.
I feel they have went downhill a lot. But that’s just my opinion of course.
why does the caliper have 2 bleeders? which one do you use to bleed the brakes? top or bottom or both?
Honestly most that I have seen usually have one.
But I just use both bleeders to help it get all of the air out.
I’m having a hell of a time getting the tie rod to come out. Any suggestions for one being stubborn? I’m whacking the snot out of the knuckle with a hammer, but it’s not budging.
stupid question, assuming these calipers take karman ghia pads?
Hey, what brand of 2 1/2" drop spindles do you recommend? I have wanted a lowered bug most of my life! Just got one and have the money to do this. Thanks!!
@@KevinBoswell-l1r the kit that I put on this car was supplied by my friend. The owner of the car. He bought a complete empi kit. I actually have no problems with using their stuff depending on what it is. CB performance I believe hazard really nice kit also. Probably a little more expensive.
I saw the Empi brand on the rotors from the video, but wasn’t sure on the drop spindles. I have disk brakes on mine already. Just wanted to check with you before I bought some. As usual - great info!! Thank you so much!!
Again a great video, Slade, thanks a lot! I own a super beetle from 1974 and also installed disk brakes. It is indeed a big improvement on brake performance. However they keep squeaking, especially if I brake just a little. Do you have a suggestion how I can get rid of it?
First of all thank you Jan, and thank you for taking the time to watch the video. And welcome aboard.
Squeaking can be very annoying and I’ve had that on quite a few cars.
I prefer to always use the disc brake quiet on the back of the pads, of course not the side that is coming in contact with the rotor!
@@SladesVWBeetle
Hi Slade, thanks for the advice! I will acquire some 'disc brake quiet' and will let you know the result!
@@JanStruik1952 you’re very welcome. You’ll have to remove the pads and coat the back of them and let them dry. Hopefully that works out for you. Unless you were having rust film? From the car sitting?
@@SladesVWBeetle
Hi Slade, I just applied 'B-quiet' . I think it is similar to 'disc brake quiet'. Anyway it did solve the problem. Thanks again for the advice! And keep on making great videos!!
Do you recommend disk breaks in the front and back? Where would you recommend buying the upgrades?
I like them Michael they make a big difference. Doing the fronts is where most of the braking power is. If you’re going high horsepower, then doing the backs, I would definitely do. Any of the big vendors, Jbugs, Cip1….They’re all about the same with that stuff.
why didn't you change the rubber boots on the ball joints?
It’s not my car, I could only do what he ask
Can I use the stock spindles .
You can do stock height spindles, with the disc brakes, absolutely!
Thanks great video.
Thank you Douglas, and thanks for always being here.
As you add in new brake caliper to the Beetle's front wheel. And you didn't add any shim But I see more gap on the between the outside brake pad than the inside brake pad's gap. Please, add more shim between the caliper and the knuckle spindle to add a little more space(gap) between the inside brake pad and disc. So because it wears out both brake pads even per wheel. Otherwise the pad wears out more than the other pad on same wheel. Thank you.
Honestly Rex, before I was done I did realize that and go back. But I didn’t want to start a video all over again but thank you. I appreciate that.
Them ball joint rubbers looked bad. But loved the video thanks
Yes they are torn. Unfortunately not my car. Thank you for being here!
I’m new to the Volkswagen scene, and diy mechanics. Why did you say it was a 2 1/2” drop spindle? Did you actually drop the front end? All you said at the end was it was a good front disk change.
The spindles are a 2 1/2 inch drop, which lowers the front end. It had 2 1/2 inch drops for drums so I swapped them with the disc kit. Much better stopping with the disc. And the drop spindles make a nice stance.
Surprised you didn't paint the rotors. It more work, but it keep the rust away.
Yes you’re right about that my friend, although it isn’t my car so I just did what he wanted. Nice solid car though.
What and how would you paint the rotors?
@@timdolan4591 I think he was talking about the hub part of the rotors.
@@SladesVWBeetle Thanks - I wasn't thinking to do the hub/calipers to make them sexy(i.e. 'arrest me red') but rather for rust avoidance. I've seen a couple videos on painting - Not sure if it is worth my time.
Thanks again for the video - I've got the parts in the garage just never can find the time, I just called AutoZone - they have the bearing race set tools for loan.
He had a big box of goodies, 😂
He did!! 😂😂
Did you do anything to lower the rear also? Or was it already done? And do you know where this kit came from?
That was the Empi kit, I believe it came from Jbugs.
I did not lower the rear since it’s not my car. But I will be doing it on my 68 that I am in the process of restoring
Great video!
Just wondering, how long did it take to complete the swap? And was there any clearance issues with tire rub? Your replies are always appreciated!
Looks like the bug already had drop spindles, only the drum versions previously... so shouldn't have changed anything in terms of tire fitment/rubbing.
Honestly I could’ve probably did it in about 45 minutes. A fairly easy job.
He has 145s.. the front, so I am really not sure if it would rub with stock 165’s.
But I will be finding out when I put them on my 68. 😁
I have a ‘68 with drop spindles and drums with 165 tires. I was wondering if they would rub also with the disk upgrade. I have maybe 1/2 inch clearance to the fenders now.
My beetle has the front disc brakes luckily, Is it worth it to swap the back brakes too?
That’s great news Anthony, I think it’s a great upgrade. On the backs, I would probably only do it if I was pumping some pretty serious horsepower. But of course that’s just my opinion.
A little bit wider of tires also can help with quicker stopping power. More tread on the ground.
@@SladesVWBeetle thx for the response man! Love your videos. My beetle is mostly stock. I dont think to much horsepower should be a problem! 😅👍
@@EpicVitto you’re very welcome, I appreciate you being here.
Honestly, the closer you keep them to stock the better they run.
I know people will argue about that, but it’s the truth.
If you’re interested in having your beetle on the website in the members section please feel free to send me an email....check out the members section of the website.
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What year is this beetle??
I believe a 1974
Just done the exact same conversion, bled brakes but still spongy only engage when pedal almost at the floor and pulls slightly to the right. Gets a little better when i pump them, I was going to bleed the brakes again. But do you have any other suggestions ie the master cylinder? Thanks
Do you mean as in bleeding the master cylinder? I’m sorry I didn’t understand what you meant at the end. I actually like to gravity bleed, and then bleed with somebody pumping the pedal. Gravity bleeding usually helps out a lot
@Slades VW Beetle Thanks for the reply!! I found my issue, the rear brake cylinder in the hub on the rear passenger side is leaking so allowing air into the system, so the gravity bleed etc was never going to work..
@@xaviers2042 you’re welcome, I’m glad you found the issue. That’s an easy fix, so you definitely got this now!
Maybe that rear grease seal was missing because previous shoes were squeaking and needed constant greasing? 😜😝🤪
😂😂😂😂 You’re too much brother! I hope that you have been doing well my friend.
@@SladesVWBeetle 😂😂😂
Life has been good. Had the beetle out Thursday night for Mingle on Main in Saxonburg. As I was driving over the bug really started to run like $h|t. Poppin an back firing. WTF. Pulled over an opened the deck. Here the distributor cap was just bouncing around on the 009.
1. How the heck was it still going down the road?
2. Gotta love just wiping the cap out of dust, snapping it on then driving away like nothing ever happened.
@@terrancemoore2035 wth?? 😂😂 that’s a wonder kept running! You’ll have to visit when you get time, normally I’m here all of the time unfortunately. 😁
what kid of places do front end alignments on old vw's having a hard time finding anyone.
Looks like the rubbers on the ball joints need replacing.
yes they do! Sadly it’s not my car, they weren’t interested in me doing those at the time
@@SladesVWBeetle silly really not to whilst it's stripped, here in the UK it would fail its yearly roadworthiness test (MOT) and wouldn't be allowed on the road.
OK.
this is the second drop spindle video ive seen ,where the spindles are changed but not the clearly fucked ball joints ,do it once do it right otherwise whats the point????????
It’s NOT my car!!!! I told him it needed changed, he said he could not do that, at that time. I can’t force people!!!!
Wow, looks like the brakes actually work good on that. Might need to upgrade from drums to discs myself next year when I get a narrowed beam.
Great advise… don’t be a bonehead 🤣
Truthfully they work quite well, and at least it’s not pulling side to side. Very nice upgrade. I know, I call everyone a bonehead 😁
Bruh, you really didn't change those nasty-ass balljoints? Cmon.
I can only advise what needs done sadly. It’s not my car. However, oddly enough it will be here in a few months to get a new dash put in and other things. I told him….I need to do the ball joints!! 😁
the calipers are pure junk !!! never buy them !
This video made me laugh. Typical 20 something year old of today . Anyone else notice the dad is working and the derelict son is sitting in the background with the look of confusion as to what’s happening and then shows him playing games on his phone while the dad does all the work. Unreal.
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