Always have to ask the same questions: - What is your budget? - What is your use case plan? - What is your skill level? It doesn't matter if it's a car, computer, or shoes.
I totally agree with your questions, but I object to the order you list them in. Telling someone that just can't afford a printer straight up and walking away passes me off. It's been done to me. It's much more respectful to talk about their needs and skills first. They may leave disappointed but feel heard.
I've been 3D printing for 14 years and with all of my knowledge I would still buy a 3D printer $300 more than anybody else if you told me it prints 99% success rate while everyone else requires you to tinker
@@3dpprofessor Sorry, but if the damn thing works - out of the box and makes great prints. Does anyone really need your second opinion? Show us an easier way to get into, and enjoy 3d printing without all the BS that those of us who came up during the desktop printing craze had to deal with - and literally everyone will go buy that. You can't create RUclips SEO content by pretending that the thing that everyone likes really sucks. Try...better Dr. Professor Mr. Man.
I will beg to differ. A1 combo is a POS. I have gotten 4 prints off mine. Heatbed Malfunction 3 times and now won't print at all. Have a support ticket in that I haven't heard a response to. Going to pack the thing up tomorrow and send it back along with the filament I bought for a refund. I should have waited and just bought the K2 plus that I really wanted anyway. Lesson learned!
I bought a elegoo Neptune 3 pro several years ago. Basic assembly and worked right from the start and is still working. If I recall it was a black Friday sale for around $200.
I've been using a Neptune 4 Pro for small scale production. It's been a solid and reliable printer. I wish Elegoo offered Pro versions of the Plus and Max, with all steel motion control systems rather than acetyl V rollers in aluminum extrusions.
Hey! I’m a 15 year old 3d printing enthusiast. I recently saved up and bought a bambu lab A1 during the Black Friday sale as my first printer. I was in a weird spot because I wanted a 3d printer that would be easy to set up and maintain, and would continue to be effective as I go further into my potential 3d printing (or just computer programming with 3d printing as a side hobby) career. I feel like I made the right choice with the A1, especially at $100 off. For whatever my next purchase is, I will definitely not be getting a bedslinger. It hasn’t shown me any problems yet, but I can imagine that over time it will cause more problems than a core XY will. Thank you for making this video! I can definitely agree with most of the points here, but I don’t think I’ll be regretting this purchase any time soon.
@@AmethystPrintsI don't know how Bambu fares there, but bedslingers are generally easier to maintain than core xy printers. Now A1 is a great printer, you won't regret that part, especially for most common materials, pla, petg and tpu. However, the thing is, depending on the local availability you are starting to get good core xy printers in that price range, which are either enclosed or you can more easily enclose them if you want to print more demanding materials
I teach 3d Printing and live in Canada, I always recommend Bambu because of shipping logistics and ease of use. We can get the printers and parts in Canada as they have warehouses here. Our dollar is not that great so shipping anything from the US and paying duty on top of that is so expensive. Most of them want to print large-scale items like cosplay, headphone stands etc. Other print brands do not cater to the Canadian market as well as Bambu does.
Its that same for Australia. When i got a prusa about 3 years ago there where $350 in import taxes that i didnt know about. A bambu will be my next printer because of price as much as anything else.
@@timothyclancy5768 right? I got a prusa diy kit a few years ago, the final price was staggering. I can not justify spending that much on a single printer again lol it is now sitting in my classroom collecting dust. It's so neglected now. I even did an upgrade to an all-metal lizard hotend which was another fee with more duty from the US LOL
I got a flash forge 5M for my first printer and I really wish that I got an A1 combo. The flash forge has just been unreliable on certain filaments and I've already destroyed two 4 mm nozzles and one build plate. I got a P1S when it was on sale and I loved it so much I just bought a second.
The thing is, for most people, Just saying pick from the printers Bambulabs makes is the right option because for many people who fall outside of the lines, they know what they want. As for the recommendations here I just don't think there is any group for whom recommending the "toy" options makes sense. Also, I felt the Prusa XL could use a spot here as well as the SV08 in particular, though that user likely knows what they want. There are apps now that deliver the "toy" experience where you can just get a good printer and use the third party app. I can't remember the Kickstarter but it's one this channel would be very excited about.
I have a Cr10, E3, Tina2, klipperized Sovol 06, and a kingroon, yet the only one I use regularly is my A1 mini combo, proper bed leveling, speed, and (slightly wasteful but reliable) color-changing, just can't be underestimated, Mini also has a very interesting advantage in the speed it can get it's smaller bed up to temp etc. it makes iterating designs stupidly fast IMHO.
Damn son I actually was warming up my internet argument hands... your ragebait title got me! Great video though, it's refreshing to hear this kinda stuff. All 3D printers have their avenue and none of them are a catch-all solution. I still recommend the A1 Mini to anyone and everyone that asks, but i always preface it with "If you want an out of the box solution and just want to get printing... "
Let me challenge you. I own a heavily upgraded Artillery SW X1 for 5 years and am looking for an itsy bitsy 2nd FDM printer to be fitted with a 0.2mm nozzle dedicated for miniatures printing. The printer must be small in size and have a 0.2mm nozzle slicer profile to have a proper base for calibration.
Ooh. First of all, why are you not considering resin 3D printing? I mean, I don't resin 3D print much because of the mess and toxic resin isn't good for the young kiddos I have around. But for FDM, the Flashforge Adventurer 5M has easy swap nozzles. Easiest I've ever seen. Like insanely easy. And they have a 0.25mm nozzle that you can just swap in. Check 'em out.
It's time to upgrade again and it'll be a coreXY machine. I'm intrigued by the K2 Plus but not willing to be an early adopter given Creality's reputation, despite appearances that they did a much better job on their new $1500 printer. I've been looking at the Sovol SV08 and now looks like a good time to buy it, not on the bleeding edge but not on the verge of it being outdated either. The other candidate is the FlashForge AD5X. I print a lot of TPU parts and the AD5X can print four different filaments including 95A durometer TPU which none of the other filament feeders can manage. That's actually huge for me, not for different colors, but so I could print PETG-CF parts with PLA support and shock absorbing TPU on top. That's a game changer for me that will allow me to develop a line of products I've been eyeing for a decade, waiting for 3D printing to have this capability.
Also for DIY folks there's Prusa and Voron. If you want fast color printing with a large print volume, the Prusa XL is hard to beat - but expensive. Vorons are for ultimate tinkering, you can do almost anything with them and they can print crazy fast.
My first printer, about 20 months ago, was the Sovol SV06. I agree, it is very modifiable and has a great community behind it. Since purchasing it, I have built a Voron 0.2 (recommended, but not for first timers) and converted my SV06 to CoreXY (A fun challenge, but a much better printer now, also not for the faint of heart.) I have about 730 hours on each machine (On the SV06, that's only since the Klipper conversion about a year ago.)
I agree with your nuanced assessment, I have an early production Creality K1 and a Bambu A1. Once Creality sent me their updated extruder the K1 has been very reliable. The A1 with the AMS Lite is great for multi-color pieces but the K1 is my go to printer for making motorcycle parts and other functional items, especially using ASA and ABS filament. The A1 mainly churns out toys and decorative items.
Cute Cthulhu and Friends could be a fun cutesy RPG with the right hands. But I am thankful that Ross Scott's old video talking about you on the Carnevil coin you sent him. The video is quite informative just as the comment section is. If I had a 3D printer, I'd use it a few handful of times to make figurines, cup holders, maybe something to a temporary fix to resolve later. But I do know it would be quite the investment and people would ask constantly for stuff assuming so little about it. Then there's just the issue of learning how to model in 3D and really getting a grasp on making sure you have the right materials, color, and executing it properly as to not mess it up completely. Even if I don't stick around the channel for too long, I do hope this comment helps more people find your channel and really connect with it. Your voice is perfect for this kind of thing that doesn't feel inauthentic or grating in some degree. Though I am curious regarding 3D printed Pizza and its taste.
I just bought a Flashforge Adventurer 5M and sofar satisfaid with it, I'm not a beginner to 3d printing. I was looking for a replacement for my now old Prusa Bear MK2.5S with Bondtech extruderhead, and I'm building a Ratrig Vcore4 400. I can afford a Bambulab printer or 2, but with the FF AD5M I got a printer that prints as well as a Bambulab printer for a cheaper price. The money I didn't use to by a Bambulab, can be used for more filament, a couple different nozzles(easy to change) and a couple of different buildplates. Shure it have loud fans, but it's going to live in a IKEA Metod cupboard with the RR Vcore. I can soundproof it if I need.
When ever I am asked by someone, I always ask, what they want to build like sizes and what their budget is. Then I recommend either prusa printers mk4 or mini maybe xl or bambu printers.
So glad to see someone of your high profile talking about this. I'm one of the 3DP Rescue! admins as well as being active in many other FB groups for printing, and it's all you see now, I won't have a Bambu because I don't like the closed ecosystem but I do acknowledge their print quality, and right now the A1 mini is pitched really cheaply. However it's not the be all and end all. Pre-Bambu it was Prusa printers, personally I always used to suggest the Ender 3 Pro before Creality started swapping and changing board level components with no way of knowing from the outside of the control box. Now I struggle to think of a particular printer to suggest, but the point as you say is to ask the questions first. Slight tangent but recently someone was asking for suggestions for higher temperature hotends for a Creality E3, there was a slew of varied suggestions, I was the only one asked what they planned to print. Turned out they were only going to be using PLA, PETG and maybe TPU so didn't need the expensive high temperature hot ends. At most they might benefit from an all metal heatbreak and maybe some Capricorn tubing. That's why asking the questions is so important. Thanks for another great video :)
I love my bambu A1 and A1 mini, which allowed me to have my midlife crises (yes I resemble that remark) while staying married and not taking out a second mortgage! However, I have a friend that is a retired engineer that enjoys fiddling with the actual printer, so non-bambu is better for him...
I appreciate this video. Now I know where to go to for my Nutella printing needs. 😊 Seriously, though, I do appreciate seeing the varied choices here - I might pick a little differently, but I think that is simply a sign of how many good choices we have now! Now, please excuse me while I look for this person who prints Nutella.
I would still suggest one of the Bambu printers because if they are asking, they are either a beginner or buying for someone who is a beginner. no matter the age.
My FIRST 3D Printer was the old Anet A8 .. I still have it and it still runs smooth with only TWO upgrades - E3D V6 Hotend and Ultrabase Glass bed I then went on numerous build upgrade of a second A8 to multi nozzle, multi color .. and failed miserably --- project still on the shelf I currently own NINE FDM and ONE Resin (Mars 2 Pro) But my pride and joy goes to my Ratrig V-Core 3 400mm Printer This thing knocks 'em out of the park Just need to figure out the ERCF to add to it
Hat's off to you, my friend. My A8 died and in my attempt to fix it the extruder head completely fell apart. I had the option to repair/upgrade it, or just accept that I had better printers on hand at the time.
I recommend the A1 and A1 mini or to wait for the new flagship Bambu. Just the fact that everyone is still comparing brand new printer models to it (and it always fails at basic stuff) says it all. For small kids I wouldn’t recommend anything at all, they won’t be able to care for it and no printer is maintenance free, so if their parents are excited about it and willing to help them then it should be something like the A1, otherwise it’s just not going to be a good gift.
@ I believe you that it’s great. But everything breaks eventually, and without someone being invested it’s going to end in a box somewhere gathering dust. Children aren’t great at this. And older children would be better off learning how to take care of something like the A1 or any proper 3D printer. Toybox looks like a great option to have in a school.
This is pretty accurate. Just forgot to mention projects and kits to build your own 3d printer. That's if you are more interested in the technology rather than the printed outcome
@3dpprofessor fair enough. A mention would have probably been enough. Corona are the common ones but you can dig much deeper and there's lots of amazing not fully known projects
When someone asks me which 3D printer they should buy, my first question is, "Do you like locked down proprietary closed source designs, built on open source development without even giving credit for it, and a walled garden approach that defaults to forcing you to send your designs from the computer on your desk to a cloud server in communist China, a country that not only doesn't respect intellectual property but actively encourages its theft as a pillar of their economic development, and then sends your design back to the 3D printer on your desk that is being controlled by a Chinese company?" 😀 For those who can defer gratification, FlashForge just announced the AD5X, their 4 filament feeder upgrade to their 5M, and it's currently the only consumer priced multi-filament system that can feed 95A TPU. It's $399 in advance with a two month wait, which will arrive a bit after Christmas.
Bambu is basically the correct answer 99% of the time unless you _NEEEEED_ a larger build volume. Sorry -- I've been doing this since 2006, and I literally run a repair shop for 3D printers. I used to run the G+ 3D printing group, and I have repaired -- personally -- over 3000 machines since opening the shop. I have touched literally every printer on the market. They have the only working multi-color system (99.99% reliable isn't reliable enough when you're talking about 8000 color changes in a print; so that leaves out the MMU) - there hasn't been a customer as happy as any of my Bambu labs customers, because I simply have to be pragmatic about what I suggest. I'm an open-source zealot, and I hail from the RepRap project. But what Bambu brought to the table is so much beyond everything else everyone has out there, that it's not even a comparison. I can't even believe that you would recommend the Toybox with a straight face...what in the world is wrong with you? All of your alternative recommendations were ...holy sh*t...questionable at best. Bambu labs machines have things like blob detection -- and a print separating from the bed is one of the most common failure modes (along with a clogged nozzle). If you use any of the printers that you've suggested, these users ARE going to eventually reach a point where they can't fix their machine, and get frustrated with the hobby. You're doing future 3D printer enthusiasts a huge disservice by suggesting these alternatives. Especially if they're not mechanically inclined, as many of them aren't. Until competitors implement _at the VERY LEAST_ blob detection, and other failure mode detection such as slipping filament, hung filament, etc -- I cannot suggest any of these regurgitated reprap clones for the average person. The hung filament sensor is literally a spring tube with a microswitch on it. There is no reason they can't implement this stuff...but they refuse to.
2006. That's impressive. I got my first in 2012. You must have started with Stratasys machines. I will agree that bambu does a lot of things I wish others were doing. but I also wish Bambu printers had access to the Toybox library of prints. I also wish that the A1 mini accepted ABS and wasn't a bed slinger.
@@3dpprofessor the RepRap project started in 2005. I started following Vik Oliver and Adrian bowyer in late 2006/early 2007 on blogger after I beat cancer and it upended my life, driving me to do the things my teachers said I couldn't ever do. The RepRap project existed on the Freenode IRC network shortly after then, and I joined up with some others in growing Florida's first hackerspace. This was before slicers like skeinforge were widely in use, and people were still using mechano and hot glue guns for testing. The app that the other chap was likely talking about was Modio; The app was acquired by Autodesk in 2014 and later rebranded as Tinkercad's character and parts design module. Some features from Modio were integrated into Tinkercad, particularly for educational use and beginner-friendly 3D modeling, although the full character assembly features specific to Modio were eventually phased out. Granted, there aren't many of the younger audience getting into 3D printers due to lack of attention span - but ToyBox was particularly egregious when it came to nickle-and-diming their customers with projects. Everything you could do with that thing had some price tag attached to it. You almost always had to purchase some project for your account before you could print. It was the epitome of enshittification in the 3D printing space. It sets a bad example for younger people who are impressionable. Before Bambu came on the market -- this video would be a SLAM dunk. Prusa, while ultra-reliable comparatively - was just soooo expensive compared to these other machines, and not all that much better. But technologically, and value-wise, everyone is scrambling to catch up to Bambu. They put a lot of thought into the process, and a lot of proper engineering into their printers. Now, you're seeing everyone copy the ceramic-plate heater on square high aspect ratio hot end. They don't know _why_ they're doing it, they're just doing it because Bambu is doing it. Nobody pays attention to the A1 series having a easy to access latching system for replacing the hot end -- or how you don't have to fiddle with wires because they used new ideas like keeping the heater and thermistor on the head. With the rest of the sensors they have, I've had some of the most illogical people manage to keep the Bambu A1 printing - after they had come back season-after-season because they listened to some RUclipsr about how they needed to do something to their machine to make it better (CHEP is horrible for this; but he's the reason I have so many customers -- he singlehandedly caused the most harm to the Ender line of printers than anyone I've ever seen; he sold people a PCB with a momentary button and an LED for something like $30...and then claimed it would help people level their beds; without tackling the real issue they were having -- which was listening to his previous videos on how to build their Ender 3 incorrectly.) If you want a machine that saves you from your own mistakes, knowing that you will make them, and it's within your budget -- there's no reason to NOT choose a Bambu, unless - as I mentioned before -- you absolutely NEED the bigger build volume (OR if you're an open source zealot like I am). You will purchase more parts, and go down more rabbit holes and spend more money in the long term on almost anything else. (With exception of Prusa, I don't know anyone who is as reliable that comes close to their #2 spot)
Sorry - no one cares. Not being able to fix a machine is a skill issue. Sounds like you want to be spoonfed everything. That's cool, but just admit it.
I gave my neighbors and X-Maker Joy for their kids to see if they'd enjoy 3D printing. They haven't spoken to me since, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence . . .
Considering the news from Prusa today, I’m not sure recommending Bambu will be a thing much longer. And I have a feeling a lot of Bambu users are going to be pretty envious.
I'm pretty excited about the new Prusa for sure. I think everyone who was worried about the Chinese connection, but who don't need multi-color, and can afford it are going to be pretty excited. Actually, when i lay out all the qualifications like that, that's a pretty thin slice of the market.
As a newbie who bought an A1 , 3 months & 400 hours , I've replaced multiple major components from fans, TH board, hotend assembly, to heat bed and there are still some minor issues here and there. IMO Bambu lab tried to keep up with demand at the cost of QC. Though their customer service are impeccable offering replacements parts the moment an issue is pin pointed. tldr: If you are getting into this hobby thinking Bambu Lab is set and forget... Just know that it highly depends on your luck with the QC.
I’d offer that anyone getting into 3d printing thinking it can be set and forget is misinformed/underinformed. It can be that way to an extreme degree, but never fully
I have the exact opposite experience. My A1 is now running almost 24/7 since 14months with no issues and the parts I replaced are the nozzle and pei metal bed.
no matter how good your QC is, defective units will always exist A1 here, 500 hours and not even a single failed color change let alone part, everything is flawless, been leaving some 24 hour prints in there without worrying and it delivers every time
For me, if its someone I dont like and dont want to have to constantly be their personal 3d printing teacher and printer tech support, I default to Bambu X1C so that it just works, and they can spend the extra money on an expensive printer as a sort of "dummy tax" for being someone I dont like (which is usually the type of person that refuses to google anything before asking me to solve their problems for them) if its someone that I DO like though, I definitely consider their needs first, and half the time give them one of my old printers to test the waters with, lol (dont ask me for anymore though, I'm down to my keepers at this point) Edit. I love the bambu printer btw. My X1C is my go to for everything, I started with the DIY prusa mendel as my first, man I'm getting old ;)
Mr. Professor, thank you for another very thoughtful video. I believe that this video is the best answer I have seen to Angus' from Maker's Muse question #4, "What is the BEST 3D printer? (according to you)". (Angus posed this question in his '3DPrintingonRUclips" video a couple of months ago.) On one of the notable 3D printing channels that I watch that gave their answers to Angus' five question, their response to 'Question #4' sounded like a Bambu commercial in which they essentially said that a Bambu printer is the best and only printer that a beginner should get. I disagree with this sentiment, because as you explain in your video, everyone who enters the 3D printing hobby has different goals and skill levels, and a Bambu printer may or may not be the answer. I always thought that the answer to the question 'What is the best 3D printer?' is 'The printer that does what you want it to do at a price you are willing and able to pay.' For me (right now) that printer is my Qidi X-Max 3. But I know that my answer is not the answer for everyone else. (And depending on how the Creality K2 Plus that I ordered works out, my answer may change...)
I can not agree more and what I say. I typically find a lot of the people who ask for a suggestion are intimidated by what they don't know. Knowing what their interests in using it, a little about how hands on they want to be with the machine, and budget are all follow up questions to ask to be able to give a recommendation. What 3D Printer should I get is equivalent to where should I move. I try to have patience and listen to their needs and give unbiased opinion not answer with several options while encouraging most of them to look more into it. Do it right and you may have someone you can geek out over printing with one day. Yes I also drool when I watch the Mimaki products.
I'd recommend a Bambu Labs over a Creality K series printer. I had the K1 Max, finally got it working decently and then it threw the Z axis for a loop by well over 1mm. No thanks. I got the X1C and will never buy another Creality anything. But, I'd recommend an Ender 3 V2. I've heard a lot of good things about their low end printers, not their high end.
idk im a kinda broke college student and needed a printer so i went with the ol'reliable 2nd Hand Ender 3. its been really fun ao far so i hope to get me an upgrade from this video once i get money to spend
That's an excellent use case. I was trying to think of the person for whom the XL is the right answer, but I can't think of anyone for whom that's a good first printer. I mean, I want one, but I'm hardly on my first.
A1 Mini and A1 is the right answer if someone needs to ask the question. Sure it's bad that there is only 1 right answer currently and Bambulabs is probably eating up market shares like a hungry child eats candy on Halloween. Tinkering with printers is slowly going away now that the printers are getting better and most people that buy a 3D printer just want to print. The slicer settings, filament settings, guides, speed, quality and the whole software package is why people are recommending the bambulab machines. There are faster printers out there, and printers with better quality but bambulab did the same thing that Prusa did only with a modern touch. If Prusa contracted their manufacturing overseas/open factory overseas did some modern tweaks to the printer and UI then every thread would be a recommendation for Prusa MK4A 300$ printer.
I don't think the people who like to tinker are stopping their tinkering, it's just that people who don't want to tinker are finally able to get printers that don't need tinkering. I hope that tinkering never goes away, it drives progress as people make new discoveries.
@@3dpprofessor I currently own 10 printers delta, core xy, boxed cartesian, bedslingers and so on. My first printer was a custom i3 Steel inspired printer that I sourced around 2014 that was a hassle in regards to getting a printer today. My favorite printers right now is a heavily modded Flsun SR, a custom mgn cube inspired printer and Bambulab A1 combo. Bought the A1 for multicolor and was against it at first for the open source stuff, but I must admit it's great. Currently the A1 gets you a lot for your money and the ams-lite is a better color changing system then the regular ams. If you want you can also do light modding printed parts and smaller mods on the A1. I have extra led light just wired from the second ams port. If you want to do heavy tinkering just get something from the Voron ecosystem. I don't see any reason today to mod a printer from a manufacturer that is just a waste of money and time for what you end up with and makes no economical sense. For me sure I have 1000$ a month in my 3D printing budget, but for most people with smaller budgets just stick to a few things that work. If I did a remodel of the printing room today with no sentimental attachment to old printers I probably would go dual Voron 2.4 350mm and dual Bambu A1 combo and one ratrig v-core 4 hybrid 500mm and also adding multicolor 8+ to the ratrig.
@@logicalfundy The cost/benefit analysis of modding a printer is getting worse and worse right now. Flow, cooling and speed is almost at the limit of what materials can handle. It's like the new T1 with cpap, when going really fast the layers cant fuse together properly and the prints become weak. So the benefit of modding a modern printer is not that great right now. And modding an old printer might cost almost as much as buying a new with the same capability. The A1 does a speedboat rules benchy in around 12 minutes for 300$ all in not needing any mods. That is just insane pricing for what you get for the money.
@@jja5606 people who tinker aren't running a cost/benefit analysis, and making the plastic flow faster might not always be the goal anyways. We still need things like good color mixing to make full color printing possible. Right now we can only print a few colors at a time. So the idea that we are running out of ways to innovate because we are hitting flow limits is ridiculous, because there are other ways to innovate.
Midlife Crisis? I'm 41 years old, :looks around at my 5 printers and more rolls of filament than I care to count all acquired within the past year and half or so:. "So that's what this is".
@@3dpprofessoryeah, it's almost like Apple created a monopoly on purpose to force people to use their products so that they could charge 50% more than their competitors. These days this is no longer the case, thankfully, but that's not for lack of trying on Apple's part. Mac users also almost exclusively use Microsoft office tools because they are objectively just so much better (and tied into everything) than any open source alternatives right now. If you ever thought it was hard to move an image in Microsoft Word, I dare you to try it in something like LibreOffice.
That being said. Bambulabs is better than the options for almost all of them. This is just a sensational news clickbait video. For 90% of your viewers they should have like a a1 or p1s. This video attracts controversial replies so ny analysis is that this is just a bait video to attract interaction. Kinda disgusting and makes me just desub and hide channel. Like we arent even the target audience why are we here.
The Voron is a trophy printer. It's a testament to your perseverance and your willingness to push through problems while learning. Since the SV-08 didn't really exist until recently, the Voron was always your show-pony. You weren't really able to just purchase a fully assembled one until recently.
@@ThantiK I would say one advantage to it you might not get with other printers is the ability to have a large bed (350x350) and a toolchanger head you can 3d print which is the reason I'm getting mine. (multiple heads) There is the PrusaXL but personal experience with that has shown the early versions had bed warping issues (we ended up getting the bed frame replaced). Plus the list of optional mods is huge
I don't get why you would give kids an inferior system when they could get an A1 mini. Sorry, but the crappy apps doing a bit of printing stupid stuff will impede the learning kids will do when getting a decent printer. It's like when I was a kid and I would have gotten a game console instead of a Commodore 64 ... I would not be earning my money making software now. Kids need challenges, not stupid oversimplified toys.
Only because when I handed my kids the crappy app, they never stopped printing. But having to find their own models to slice with they go bored. It's just the experience I had.
I got nothing against evolution. I think there's some very strong evidence for evolution. Though, not as originally presented by Darwin. He thought if a bird damages his beak, and that lends some kind of advantage, that future generations would spontaneously be born with the same deformity. Nonsense. But the general idea of biology adapting over time, I think that's undeniable.
@Shenandoahleather, hey, now. the whole point of the reason why I say that is to remind us to be nice to each other. A little bit of perspective, as it were. And, sorry @anoccomir, but I can't not mix them, because I'm not mixing things. God is a part of everything I do, even 3D printing.
@@3dpprofessor I’m a Fundamental Independent Baptist and see too many attacks on Christian religion. Jesus wasn’t nice when he told the sellers in the temple to get out. One can’t always be nice when attacked. Too many are silent and won’t stand up for right.
@@Shenandoahleather If you don't mind my saying so, Jesus was generally pretty nice. John the Baptist would make his sermons pretty abrasive, but compare that with the sermon on the mount and Jesus' message was pretty clear: Be nice to people, even the people who aren't nice to you. And, heck, even when he was cleansing the temple, he took his time braiding a whip, and he didn't flip the table of the ones selling the doves. He was deliberate and controlled and considered the consequences of his actions the whole time. He never attacked the attackers or gave hate back to the haters. He conquered with love.
Respectfully, the only thing awkward was your comment. Just because you don't believe in God, doesn't mean you get to dictate what others believe or how that live that out.
I am really bad at marketing: www.3dpprofessor.com/2024/11/14/dont-suggest-bambu-labs-3d-printers-until-youve-seen-this-video/
Always have to ask the same questions:
- What is your budget?
- What is your use case plan?
- What is your skill level?
It doesn't matter if it's a car, computer, or shoes.
I totally agree with your questions, but I object to the order you list them in. Telling someone that just can't afford a printer straight up and walking away passes me off. It's been done to me. It's much more respectful to talk about their needs and skills first. They may leave disappointed but feel heard.
- What is your shoes skill level ?
- I don't know man, I might be a pro, I walked almost all my life.
@@Wakkky Can you tie your shoes? Don't laugh, some cannot.
I've been 3D printing for 14 years and with all of my knowledge I would still buy a 3D printer $300 more than anybody else if you told me it prints 99% success rate while everyone else requires you to tinker
I've recommended Bambu Lab over and over again. No one has said they were unhappy with it afterwards
A lack of complaining doesn't mean happiness.
So they're not speaking to you any more?
/jk
@@3dpprofessor Sorry, but if the damn thing works - out of the box and makes great prints. Does anyone really need your second opinion? Show us an easier way to get into, and enjoy 3d printing without all the BS that those of us who came up during the desktop printing craze had to deal with - and literally everyone will go buy that. You can't create RUclips SEO content by pretending that the thing that everyone likes really sucks. Try...better Dr. Professor Mr. Man.
We all keep in touch and all very happy with their purchase.
I will beg to differ. A1 combo is a POS. I have gotten 4 prints off mine. Heatbed Malfunction 3 times and now won't print at all. Have a support ticket in that I haven't heard a response to. Going to pack the thing up tomorrow and send it back along with the filament I bought for a refund. I should have waited and just bought the K2 plus that I really wanted anyway. Lesson learned!
I bought a elegoo Neptune 3 pro several years ago. Basic assembly and worked right from the start and is still working. If I recall it was a black Friday sale for around $200.
And several years ago that was the bomb. How times have changed.
I had nothing but issues with my neptune 3
I've been using a Neptune 4 Pro for small scale production. It's been a solid and reliable printer. I wish Elegoo offered Pro versions of the Plus and Max, with all steel motion control systems rather than acetyl V rollers in aluminum extrusions.
Hey! I’m a 15 year old 3d printing enthusiast. I recently saved up and bought a bambu lab A1 during the Black Friday sale as my first printer. I was in a weird spot because I wanted a 3d printer that would be easy to set up and maintain, and would continue to be effective as I go further into my potential 3d printing (or just computer programming with 3d printing as a side hobby) career. I feel like I made the right choice with the A1, especially at $100 off. For whatever my next purchase is, I will definitely not be getting a bedslinger. It hasn’t shown me any problems yet, but I can imagine that over time it will cause more problems than a core XY will. Thank you for making this video! I can definitely agree with most of the points here, but I don’t think I’ll be regretting this purchase any time soon.
Nor should you. You are gonna do great things with that A1. Especially the fact that you bought it yourself. That shows initiative.
@ Thank you! Have a good day.
@@AmethystPrintsI don't know how Bambu fares there, but bedslingers are generally easier to maintain than core xy printers. Now A1 is a great printer, you won't regret that part, especially for most common materials, pla, petg and tpu. However, the thing is, depending on the local availability you are starting to get good core xy printers in that price range, which are either enclosed or you can more easily enclose them if you want to print more demanding materials
I teach 3d Printing and live in Canada, I always recommend Bambu because of shipping logistics and ease of use. We can get the printers and parts in Canada as they have warehouses here. Our dollar is not that great so shipping anything from the US and paying duty on top of that is so expensive. Most of them want to print large-scale items like cosplay, headphone stands etc. Other print brands do not cater to the Canadian market as well as Bambu does.
That is actually an excellent reason that I hadn't considered. Good on Bambu for that.
Its that same for Australia. When i got a prusa about 3 years ago there where $350 in import taxes that i didnt know about. A bambu will be my next printer because of price as much as anything else.
@@timothyclancy5768 right? I got a prusa diy kit a few years ago, the final price was staggering. I can not justify spending that much on a single printer again lol it is now sitting in my classroom collecting dust. It's so neglected now. I even did an upgrade to an all-metal lizard hotend which was another fee with more duty from the US LOL
I got a flash forge 5M for my first printer and I really wish that I got an A1 combo. The flash forge has just been unreliable on certain filaments and I've already destroyed two 4 mm nozzles and one build plate. I got a P1S when it was on sale and I loved it so much I just bought a second.
I am sorry to hear about that. My 5M has been great, but it's good to know not everyone has had my experience.
The thing is, for most people, Just saying pick from the printers Bambulabs makes is the right option because for many people who fall outside of the lines, they know what they want.
As for the recommendations here I just don't think there is any group for whom recommending the "toy" options makes sense. Also, I felt the Prusa XL could use a spot here as well as the SV08 in particular, though that user likely knows what they want.
There are apps now that deliver the "toy" experience where you can just get a good printer and use the third party app. I can't remember the Kickstarter but it's one this channel would be very excited about.
I would be very excited about it. If you can remember the name I'd love to check out that toy app.
Good video, love the light and humor take and in your videos, God bless man 👍
I have a Cr10, E3, Tina2, klipperized Sovol 06, and a kingroon, yet the only one I use regularly is my A1 mini combo, proper bed leveling, speed, and (slightly wasteful but reliable) color-changing, just can't be underestimated, Mini also has a very interesting advantage in the speed it can get it's smaller bed up to temp etc. it makes iterating designs stupidly fast IMHO.
Damn son I actually was warming up my internet argument hands... your ragebait title got me! Great video though, it's refreshing to hear this kinda stuff. All 3D printers have their avenue and none of them are a catch-all solution. I still recommend the A1 Mini to anyone and everyone that asks, but i always preface it with "If you want an out of the box solution and just want to get printing... "
I totally agree. I hate how some people’s knee jerk suggestion is a $1500 machine 🤦♀️
Best recommendation A1 $299 You could buy five of them for that price
Let me challenge you. I own a heavily upgraded Artillery SW X1 for 5 years and am looking for an itsy bitsy 2nd FDM printer to be fitted with a 0.2mm nozzle dedicated for miniatures printing. The printer must be small in size and have a 0.2mm nozzle slicer profile to have a proper base for calibration.
Ooh. First of all, why are you not considering resin 3D printing? I mean, I don't resin 3D print much because of the mess and toxic resin isn't good for the young kiddos I have around.
But for FDM, the Flashforge Adventurer 5M has easy swap nozzles. Easiest I've ever seen. Like insanely easy. And they have a 0.25mm nozzle that you can just swap in. Check 'em out.
It's time to upgrade again and it'll be a coreXY machine. I'm intrigued by the K2 Plus but not willing to be an early adopter given Creality's reputation, despite appearances that they did a much better job on their new $1500 printer. I've been looking at the Sovol SV08 and now looks like a good time to buy it, not on the bleeding edge but not on the verge of it being outdated either. The other candidate is the FlashForge AD5X. I print a lot of TPU parts and the AD5X can print four different filaments including 95A durometer TPU which none of the other filament feeders can manage. That's actually huge for me, not for different colors, but so I could print PETG-CF parts with PLA support and shock absorbing TPU on top. That's a game changer for me that will allow me to develop a line of products I've been eyeing for a decade, waiting for 3D printing to have this capability.
The K2s now are much better.
Also for DIY folks there's Prusa and Voron. If you want fast color printing with a large print volume, the Prusa XL is hard to beat - but expensive. Vorons are for ultimate tinkering, you can do almost anything with them and they can print crazy fast.
My first printer, about 20 months ago, was the Sovol SV06. I agree, it is very modifiable and has a great community behind it. Since purchasing it, I have built a Voron 0.2 (recommended, but not for first timers) and converted my SV06 to CoreXY (A fun challenge, but a much better printer now, also not for the faint of heart.)
I have about 730 hours on each machine (On the SV06, that's only since the Klipper conversion about a year ago.)
I agree with your nuanced assessment, I have an early production Creality K1 and a Bambu A1. Once Creality sent me their updated extruder the K1 has been very reliable. The A1 with the AMS Lite is great for multi-color pieces but the K1 is my go to printer for making motorcycle parts and other functional items, especially using ASA and ABS filament. The A1 mainly churns out toys and decorative items.
Cute Cthulhu and Friends could be a fun cutesy RPG with the right hands. But I am thankful that Ross Scott's old video talking about you on the Carnevil coin you sent him. The video is quite informative just as the comment section is. If I had a 3D printer, I'd use it a few handful of times to make figurines, cup holders, maybe something to a temporary fix to resolve later. But I do know it would be quite the investment and people would ask constantly for stuff assuming so little about it. Then there's just the issue of learning how to model in 3D and really getting a grasp on making sure you have the right materials, color, and executing it properly as to not mess it up completely. Even if I don't stick around the channel for too long, I do hope this comment helps more people find your channel and really connect with it. Your voice is perfect for this kind of thing that doesn't feel inauthentic or grating in some degree. Though I am curious regarding 3D printed Pizza and its taste.
Well, all hail Ross. Good guy.
I just bought a Flashforge Adventurer 5M and sofar satisfaid with it, I'm not a beginner to 3d printing. I was looking for a replacement for my now old Prusa Bear MK2.5S with Bondtech extruderhead, and I'm building a Ratrig Vcore4 400. I can afford a Bambulab printer or 2, but with the FF AD5M I got a printer that prints as well as a Bambulab printer for a cheaper price. The money I didn't use to by a Bambulab, can be used for more filament, a couple different nozzles(easy to change) and a couple of different buildplates. Shure it have loud fans, but it's going to live in a IKEA Metod cupboard with the RR Vcore. I can soundproof it if I need.
When ever I am asked by someone, I always ask, what they want to build like sizes and what their budget is. Then I recommend either prusa printers mk4 or mini maybe xl or bambu printers.
So glad to see someone of your high profile talking about this. I'm one of the 3DP Rescue! admins as well as being active in many other FB groups for printing, and it's all you see now, I won't have a Bambu because I don't like the closed ecosystem but I do acknowledge their print quality, and right now the A1 mini is pitched really cheaply. However it's not the be all and end all. Pre-Bambu it was Prusa printers, personally I always used to suggest the Ender 3 Pro before Creality started swapping and changing board level components with no way of knowing from the outside of the control box. Now I struggle to think of a particular printer to suggest, but the point as you say is to ask the questions first. Slight tangent but recently someone was asking for suggestions for higher temperature hotends for a Creality E3, there was a slew of varied suggestions, I was the only one asked what they planned to print. Turned out they were only going to be using PLA, PETG and maybe TPU so didn't need the expensive high temperature hot ends. At most they might benefit from an all metal heatbreak and maybe some Capricorn tubing. That's why asking the questions is so important. Thanks for another great video :)
I love my bambu A1 and A1 mini, which allowed me to have my midlife crises (yes I resemble that remark) while staying married and not taking out a second mortgage! However, I have a friend that is a retired engineer that enjoys fiddling with the actual printer, so non-bambu is better for him...
I appreciate this video. Now I know where to go to for my Nutella printing needs. 😊
Seriously, though, I do appreciate seeing the varied choices here - I might pick a little differently, but I think that is simply a sign of how many good choices we have now!
Now, please excuse me while I look for this person who prints Nutella.
How do you feel about ff adv 5x being showcased tomorrow?
I'd love to test it out.
I would still suggest one of the Bambu printers
because if they are asking, they are either a beginner or buying for someone who is a beginner. no matter the age.
I always suggest Bambu labs, they have a printer for every budget. Great products and service. Plug an play printing.
You should really check out Toybox.
My FIRST 3D Printer was the old Anet A8 .. I still have it and it still runs smooth with only TWO upgrades - E3D V6 Hotend and Ultrabase Glass bed
I then went on numerous build upgrade of a second A8 to multi nozzle, multi color .. and failed miserably --- project still on the shelf
I currently own NINE FDM and ONE Resin (Mars 2 Pro)
But my pride and joy goes to my Ratrig V-Core 3 400mm Printer
This thing knocks 'em out of the park
Just need to figure out the ERCF to add to it
Hat's off to you, my friend. My A8 died and in my attempt to fix it the extruder head completely fell apart. I had the option to repair/upgrade it, or just accept that I had better printers on hand at the time.
I recommend the A1 and A1 mini or to wait for the new flagship Bambu. Just the fact that everyone is still comparing brand new printer models to it (and it always fails at basic stuff) says it all.
For small kids I wouldn’t recommend anything at all, they won’t be able to care for it and no printer is maintenance free, so if their parents are excited about it and willing to help them then it should be something like the A1, otherwise it’s just not going to be a good gift.
You should really try out the toybox.
@ I believe you that it’s great. But everything breaks eventually, and without someone being invested it’s going to end in a box somewhere gathering dust. Children aren’t great at this. And older children would be better off learning how to take care of something like the A1 or any proper 3D printer.
Toybox looks like a great option to have in a school.
I will still recommend bambu lab for both tbh
Both? There were at least 5 scenarios in this video.
@@3dpprofessor for grandma and mid life crisis guy lol
This is pretty accurate.
Just forgot to mention projects and kits to build your own 3d printer.
That's if you are more interested in the technology rather than the printed outcome
Voron. Yeah, that should have made the list.
I think the problem is I don't do much with voron myself.
@3dpprofessor fair enough. A mention would have probably been enough. Corona are the common ones but you can dig much deeper and there's lots of amazing not fully known projects
When someone asks me which 3D printer they should buy, my first question is, "Do you like locked down proprietary closed source designs, built on open source development without even giving credit for it, and a walled garden approach that defaults to forcing you to send your designs from the computer on your desk to a cloud server in communist China, a country that not only doesn't respect intellectual property but actively encourages its theft as a pillar of their economic development, and then sends your design back to the 3D printer on your desk that is being controlled by a Chinese company?"
😀
For those who can defer gratification, FlashForge just announced the AD5X, their 4 filament feeder upgrade to their 5M, and it's currently the only consumer priced multi-filament system that can feed 95A TPU. It's $399 in advance with a two month wait, which will arrive a bit after Christmas.
I really want to try out the 5X
My choice was the QIDI Q1 for my first printer.
Not a bad choice at all.
Bambu is basically the correct answer 99% of the time unless you _NEEEEED_ a larger build volume. Sorry -- I've been doing this since 2006, and I literally run a repair shop for 3D printers. I used to run the G+ 3D printing group, and I have repaired -- personally -- over 3000 machines since opening the shop. I have touched literally every printer on the market. They have the only working multi-color system (99.99% reliable isn't reliable enough when you're talking about 8000 color changes in a print; so that leaves out the MMU) - there hasn't been a customer as happy as any of my Bambu labs customers, because I simply have to be pragmatic about what I suggest. I'm an open-source zealot, and I hail from the RepRap project. But what Bambu brought to the table is so much beyond everything else everyone has out there, that it's not even a comparison. I can't even believe that you would recommend the Toybox with a straight face...what in the world is wrong with you? All of your alternative recommendations were ...holy sh*t...questionable at best.
Bambu labs machines have things like blob detection -- and a print separating from the bed is one of the most common failure modes (along with a clogged nozzle). If you use any of the printers that you've suggested, these users ARE going to eventually reach a point where they can't fix their machine, and get frustrated with the hobby. You're doing future 3D printer enthusiasts a huge disservice by suggesting these alternatives. Especially if they're not mechanically inclined, as many of them aren't.
Until competitors implement _at the VERY LEAST_ blob detection, and other failure mode detection such as slipping filament, hung filament, etc -- I cannot suggest any of these regurgitated reprap clones for the average person. The hung filament sensor is literally a spring tube with a microswitch on it. There is no reason they can't implement this stuff...but they refuse to.
2006. That's impressive. I got my first in 2012. You must have started with Stratasys machines.
I will agree that bambu does a lot of things I wish others were doing. but I also wish Bambu printers had access to the Toybox library of prints. I also wish that the A1 mini accepted ABS and wasn't a bed slinger.
@@3dpprofessor the RepRap project started in 2005. I started following Vik Oliver and Adrian bowyer in late 2006/early 2007 on blogger after I beat cancer and it upended my life, driving me to do the things my teachers said I couldn't ever do. The RepRap project existed on the Freenode IRC network shortly after then, and I joined up with some others in growing Florida's first hackerspace. This was before slicers like skeinforge were widely in use, and people were still using mechano and hot glue guns for testing. The app that the other chap was likely talking about was Modio; The app was acquired by Autodesk in 2014 and later rebranded as Tinkercad's character and parts design module. Some features from Modio were integrated into Tinkercad, particularly for educational use and beginner-friendly 3D modeling, although the full character assembly features specific to Modio were eventually phased out.
Granted, there aren't many of the younger audience getting into 3D printers due to lack of attention span - but ToyBox was particularly egregious when it came to nickle-and-diming their customers with projects. Everything you could do with that thing had some price tag attached to it. You almost always had to purchase some project for your account before you could print. It was the epitome of enshittification in the 3D printing space. It sets a bad example for younger people who are impressionable.
Before Bambu came on the market -- this video would be a SLAM dunk. Prusa, while ultra-reliable comparatively - was just soooo expensive compared to these other machines, and not all that much better. But technologically, and value-wise, everyone is scrambling to catch up to Bambu. They put a lot of thought into the process, and a lot of proper engineering into their printers.
Now, you're seeing everyone copy the ceramic-plate heater on square high aspect ratio hot end. They don't know _why_ they're doing it, they're just doing it because Bambu is doing it. Nobody pays attention to the A1 series having a easy to access latching system for replacing the hot end -- or how you don't have to fiddle with wires because they used new ideas like keeping the heater and thermistor on the head. With the rest of the sensors they have, I've had some of the most illogical people manage to keep the Bambu A1 printing - after they had come back season-after-season because they listened to some RUclipsr about how they needed to do something to their machine to make it better (CHEP is horrible for this; but he's the reason I have so many customers -- he singlehandedly caused the most harm to the Ender line of printers than anyone I've ever seen; he sold people a PCB with a momentary button and an LED for something like $30...and then claimed it would help people level their beds; without tackling the real issue they were having -- which was listening to his previous videos on how to build their Ender 3 incorrectly.)
If you want a machine that saves you from your own mistakes, knowing that you will make them, and it's within your budget -- there's no reason to NOT choose a Bambu, unless - as I mentioned before -- you absolutely NEED the bigger build volume (OR if you're an open source zealot like I am). You will purchase more parts, and go down more rabbit holes and spend more money in the long term on almost anything else. (With exception of Prusa, I don't know anyone who is as reliable that comes close to their #2 spot)
Sorry - no one cares.
Not being able to fix a machine is a skill issue. Sounds like you want to be spoonfed everything. That's cool, but just admit it.
I gave my neighbors and X-Maker Joy for their kids to see if they'd enjoy 3D printing. They haven't spoken to me since, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence . . .
Hah. Maybe they need a little help.
Considering the news from Prusa today, I’m not sure recommending Bambu will be a thing much longer. And I have a feeling a lot of Bambu users are going to be pretty envious.
I'm pretty excited about the new Prusa for sure. I think everyone who was worried about the Chinese connection, but who don't need multi-color, and can afford it are going to be pretty excited.
Actually, when i lay out all the qualifications like that, that's a pretty thin slice of the market.
As a newbie who bought an A1 , 3 months & 400 hours , I've replaced multiple major components from fans, TH board, hotend assembly, to heat bed and there are still some minor issues here and there. IMO Bambu lab tried to keep up with demand at the cost of QC. Though their customer service are impeccable offering replacements parts the moment an issue is pin pointed.
tldr: If you are getting into this hobby thinking Bambu Lab is set and forget... Just know that it highly depends on your luck with the QC.
I’d offer that anyone getting into 3d printing thinking it can be set and forget is misinformed/underinformed. It can be that way to an extreme degree, but never fully
I have the exact opposite experience. My A1 is now running almost 24/7 since 14months with no issues and the parts I replaced are the nozzle and pei metal bed.
You must have gotten a cursed unit.. none of my A1 mini's showed any problems. Some are over 1k hours now.
I’ve got an a1 mini it’s great and AnkerMake m5c it’s good too I’ve just started myself
no matter how good your QC is, defective units will always exist
A1 here, 500 hours and not even a single failed color change let alone part, everything is flawless, been leaving some 24 hour prints in there without worrying and it delivers every time
For me, if its someone I dont like and dont want to have to constantly be their personal 3d printing teacher and printer tech support, I default to Bambu X1C so that it just works, and they can spend the extra money on an expensive printer as a sort of "dummy tax" for being someone I dont like (which is usually the type of person that refuses to google anything before asking me to solve their problems for them) if its someone that I DO like though, I definitely consider their needs first, and half the time give them one of my old printers to test the waters with, lol (dont ask me for anymore though, I'm down to my keepers at this point) Edit. I love the bambu printer btw. My X1C is my go to for everything, I started with the DIY prusa mendel as my first, man I'm getting old ;)
Mr. Professor, thank you for another very thoughtful video. I believe that this video is the best answer I have seen to Angus' from Maker's Muse question #4, "What is the BEST 3D printer? (according to you)". (Angus posed this question in his '3DPrintingonRUclips" video a couple of months ago.) On one of the notable 3D printing channels that I watch that gave their answers to Angus' five question, their response to 'Question #4' sounded like a Bambu commercial in which they essentially said that a Bambu printer is the best and only printer that a beginner should get. I disagree with this sentiment, because as you explain in your video, everyone who enters the 3D printing hobby has different goals and skill levels, and a Bambu printer may or may not be the answer. I always thought that the answer to the question 'What is the best 3D printer?' is 'The printer that does what you want it to do at a price you are willing and able to pay.' For me (right now) that printer is my Qidi X-Max 3. But I know that my answer is not the answer for everyone else. (And depending on how the Creality K2 Plus that I ordered works out, my answer may change...)
I can not agree more and what I say. I typically find a lot of the people who ask for a suggestion are intimidated by what they don't know. Knowing what their interests in using it, a little about how hands on they want to be with the machine, and budget are all follow up questions to ask to be able to give a recommendation. What 3D Printer should I get is equivalent to where should I move. I try to have patience and listen to their needs and give unbiased opinion not answer with several options while encouraging most of them to look more into it. Do it right and you may have someone you can geek out over printing with one day. Yes I also drool when I watch the Mimaki products.
I'd recommend a Bambu Labs over a Creality K series printer. I had the K1 Max, finally got it working decently and then it threw the Z axis for a loop by well over 1mm. No thanks. I got the X1C and will never buy another Creality anything. But, I'd recommend an Ender 3 V2. I've heard a lot of good things about their low end printers, not their high end.
I have a different opinion of the Enders. ruclips.net/video/6FCL8_pvXaw/видео.html
idk im a kinda broke college student and needed a printer so i went with the ol'reliable 2nd Hand Ender 3. its been really fun ao far so i hope to get me an upgrade from this video once i get money to spend
Real 3D Printer! If it makes 3D prints, its a real 3D printer.
honestly Ide say if you want working prototypes and stuff in carbon fiber filliment a prusa works great
That's an excellent use case. I was trying to think of the person for whom the XL is the right answer, but I can't think of anyone for whom that's a good first printer. I mean, I want one, but I'm hardly on my first.
Remember the time when people would shout Prusa before you finished saying 3d printer?
Yup. ruclips.net/video/TkRutCMJArY/видео.html
@@Hilmi12 this didn’t age well.
A1 Mini and A1 is the right answer if someone needs to ask the question. Sure it's bad that there is only 1 right answer currently and Bambulabs is probably eating up market shares like a hungry child eats candy on Halloween. Tinkering with printers is slowly going away now that the printers are getting better and most people that buy a 3D printer just want to print.
The slicer settings, filament settings, guides, speed, quality and the whole software package is why people are recommending the bambulab machines. There are faster printers out there, and printers with better quality but bambulab did the same thing that Prusa did only with a modern touch. If Prusa contracted their manufacturing overseas/open factory overseas did some modern tweaks to the printer and UI then every thread would be a recommendation for Prusa MK4A 300$ printer.
How many different 3D printers have you used before concluding that Bambu is the only right answer?
I don't think the people who like to tinker are stopping their tinkering, it's just that people who don't want to tinker are finally able to get printers that don't need tinkering. I hope that tinkering never goes away, it drives progress as people make new discoveries.
@@3dpprofessor I currently own 10 printers delta, core xy, boxed cartesian, bedslingers and so on. My first printer was a custom i3 Steel inspired printer that I sourced around 2014 that was a hassle in regards to getting a printer today. My favorite printers right now is a heavily modded Flsun SR, a custom mgn cube inspired printer and Bambulab A1 combo. Bought the A1 for multicolor and was against it at first for the open source stuff, but I must admit it's great.
Currently the A1 gets you a lot for your money and the ams-lite is a better color changing system then the regular ams. If you want you can also do light modding printed parts and smaller mods on the A1. I have extra led light just wired from the second ams port. If you want to do heavy tinkering just get something from the Voron ecosystem.
I don't see any reason today to mod a printer from a manufacturer that is just a waste of money and time for what you end up with and makes no economical sense. For me sure I have 1000$ a month in my 3D printing budget, but for most people with smaller budgets just stick to a few things that work. If I did a remodel of the printing room today with no sentimental attachment to old printers I probably would go dual Voron 2.4 350mm and dual Bambu A1 combo and one ratrig v-core 4 hybrid 500mm and also adding multicolor 8+ to the ratrig.
@@logicalfundy The cost/benefit analysis of modding a printer is getting worse and worse right now. Flow, cooling and speed is almost at the limit of what materials can handle. It's like the new T1 with cpap, when going really fast the layers cant fuse together properly and the prints become weak. So the benefit of modding a modern printer is not that great right now. And modding an old printer might cost almost as much as buying a new with the same capability.
The A1 does a speedboat rules benchy in around 12 minutes for 300$ all in not needing any mods. That is just insane pricing for what you get for the money.
@@jja5606 people who tinker aren't running a cost/benefit analysis, and making the plastic flow faster might not always be the goal anyways. We still need things like good color mixing to make full color printing possible. Right now we can only print a few colors at a time. So the idea that we are running out of ways to innovate because we are hitting flow limits is ridiculous, because there are other ways to innovate.
Sorry, not just Bambu. The Bambu that you can afford, as long as the build plate size meets your needs. 😄
Well, that's the thing. If the bambu you can afford doesn't have the size you want, check out the Flashforge Adventurer 5M.
Midlife Crisis? I'm 41 years old, :looks around at my 5 printers and more rolls of filament than I care to count all acquired within the past year and half or so:. "So that's what this is".
Bambu has the better ecosystem, customer support, working out of the box... It's not just the printer but evening and it.
child of which god? jahwe?
Let's call that an exercise for the audience. But if you'd like to have a sincere discussion about it I would love to tell you more.
@@3dpprofessor no no all right, too off-topic :) have a good day.
I am 15 just got my p1s combo
You're gonna do awesome things.
Are you judging my midlife crisis because it sounds like you're judging my midlife crisis? I did buy a printer but I bought a BIG printer
wait you're only 45? i thought you were in your 50s
Ouch.
I mean, I'm not 45 either, but I'm not *yet* 50.
3D printing all day it's taking its toll on the looks. Either that, or too much eating / not enough exercise, causing fattening and oxidative stress.
@@cromyjr1592 definately to much eating and not enough exercise.
I can't trust people who so readily praise a company that uses proprietary.... well, everything. Closed source systems are the antithesis of creation.
It's funny, though, how Apple is used by so many creative people. For a while there it was the only tool of choice for artists.
@@3dpprofessoryeah, it's almost like Apple created a monopoly on purpose to force people to use their products so that they could charge 50% more than their competitors. These days this is no longer the case, thankfully, but that's not for lack of trying on Apple's part. Mac users also almost exclusively use Microsoft office tools because they are objectively just so much better (and tied into everything) than any open source alternatives right now.
If you ever thought it was hard to move an image in Microsoft Word, I dare you to try it in something like LibreOffice.
Sv06 plus
Definitely get a Bambulabs printer if you're considering getting a 3D printer. Hassle free and works out of the box
you should 3Dprint you own fake Ferrari, would be a good video series
I obviously mean 1:1 scale
Why was Grandma Irish :)
I was wondering that myself when editing it.
mimaki isn't pronounced like mimic-eye, it's mim-AH-key
Ah, I wondered. I promise I'll get it right if they send me one.
@@3dpprofessor lol yeah use that as leverage
I can afford a nice Ferrari. It's about 3" long and I printed it myself. LOL
Anet A8!!
Out.
Oh boy, that brings back memories...
Couldn't be happier to have replaced it with a BambuLab after 7 years 😅
I started with an AnetA8 way back in the dark ages. What a fire box. 😅 Now I'm building Vorons
Until you can show me a video of any non-bambu printer set up and print flawlessly first time out of the box, they are not worth endorsing.
I made that video 5 years ago. ruclips.net/video/jbKFzEVWHNM/видео.html
IF you are in europe buy a prusa.
That being said. Bambulabs is better than the options for almost all of them. This is just a sensational news clickbait video. For 90% of your viewers they should have like a a1 or p1s. This video attracts controversial replies so ny analysis is that this is just a bait video to attract interaction. Kinda disgusting and makes me just desub and hide channel. Like we arent even the target audience why are we here.
It ain't about you, but about who might ask you for advice. Just get a little more information before committing to a one-size-fits-all answer.
If you think this is clickbait then you might not be cut out for youtube
@@allwoundup3574 you're right, it's ragebait
My answer is how mechanical are you and how much can you afford to buy
Do you like pimp my ride? then it's a voron for you
The Voron is a trophy printer. It's a testament to your perseverance and your willingness to push through problems while learning. Since the SV-08 didn't really exist until recently, the Voron was always your show-pony. You weren't really able to just purchase a fully assembled one until recently.
Truth.
@@ThantiK I would say one advantage to it you might not get with other printers is the ability to have a large bed (350x350) and a toolchanger head you can 3d print which is the reason I'm getting mine. (multiple heads) There is the PrusaXL but personal experience with that has shown the early versions had bed warping issues (we ended up getting the bed frame replaced).
Plus the list of optional mods is huge
Just wearing a tie doesn't make you a professor. Underscored by the fact that Bambu def makes best FDM printers out there.
I didn't say they weren't the best. Just that they might not be the best for everyone.
Bambu is far from the best. I hope you're getting paid to go to bat for them, at least.
Someone hasn’t seen the news today have they? Prusa just released a new printer. And, I think the professor has a very nice tie.
Seems like you didn't watch the video and are just reflexively reacting to the title.
Creating a problem for clicks.
I wish I were creative enough to create problems.
I don't get why you would give kids an inferior system when they could get an A1 mini. Sorry, but the crappy apps doing a bit of printing stupid stuff will impede the learning kids will do when getting a decent printer. It's like when I was a kid and I would have gotten a game console instead of a Commodore 64 ... I would not be earning my money making software now. Kids need challenges, not stupid oversimplified toys.
Only because when I handed my kids the crappy app, they never stopped printing. But having to find their own models to slice with they go bored. It's just the experience I had.
Nah, I’m a child of evolution. I don’t subscribe to preachy types, grandpa.
I got nothing against evolution. I think there's some very strong evidence for evolution. Though, not as originally presented by Darwin. He thought if a bird damages his beak, and that lends some kind of advantage, that future generations would spontaneously be born with the same deformity. Nonsense. But the general idea of biology adapting over time, I think that's undeniable.
God does not exist and I am not a child of him/her/it. Just FYI.
It's okay. He still believes in you.
@@3dpprofessor No, he does not believe in me, because he does not exist. This isn't that complicated, so try to keep up.
Hahaa looot late
loot? Or lot? How many extra 'o's we talking here?
I'm NOT a child of god, please let's not mix religion and 3d printing, so awkward
I’m offended you didn’t capitalize God. Please, do what you want on your own channel and not attack others you don’t agree with, that’s awkward!
@Shenandoahleather, hey, now. the whole point of the reason why I say that is to remind us to be nice to each other. A little bit of perspective, as it were.
And, sorry @anoccomir, but I can't not mix them, because I'm not mixing things. God is a part of everything I do, even 3D printing.
@@3dpprofessor I’m a Fundamental Independent Baptist and see too many attacks on Christian religion. Jesus wasn’t nice when he told the sellers in the temple to get out. One can’t always be nice when attacked. Too many are silent and won’t stand up for right.
@@Shenandoahleather If you don't mind my saying so, Jesus was generally pretty nice. John the Baptist would make his sermons pretty abrasive, but compare that with the sermon on the mount and Jesus' message was pretty clear: Be nice to people, even the people who aren't nice to you.
And, heck, even when he was cleansing the temple, he took his time braiding a whip, and he didn't flip the table of the ones selling the doves. He was deliberate and controlled and considered the consequences of his actions the whole time.
He never attacked the attackers or gave hate back to the haters. He conquered with love.
Respectfully, the only thing awkward was your comment. Just because you don't believe in God, doesn't mean you get to dictate what others believe or how that live that out.