STORM ION PRO PREVIEW | Does it Reinvent the Benchmark??
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2024
- This is a preview for Storm's new Ion Pro bowling ball!
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I actually think this will really be good. Almost identical to the Motiv Black Venom.
I was gonna say, why am I ever going to replace my $140 black venom with a $200 ball?
Ah that's a good point, I forgot to look at that one.
Or even the Blue coral Venom? thats also a hybrid
that ball is like $40 less and Motiv is generally a little pricey
Not interested in the ball, but love the comparison between the brands. Knowledge is power!!
Keep them coming
Nice comeback to the shorter format. Quick and to the point. Also like seeing all the different style bowlers. Can't wait to see your channel keep growing! Keep up the great work!
I think the Phaze 2 is just the perfect benchmark ball. It's gonna be hard to beat it and I don't think this will take the throne but hey TX-16 hybrid sounds nice so it'll probably be a very versatile bowling ball
Love this video! I am so glad you got back into previews like this. Fantastic work as always my friend
👀🍿 I'd like to see it stacked against the Absolute Power because I see that as more of a benchmark currently.
Fair point
It's basically an updated Physix core...they look almost identical....not saying that's a bad thing, I loved my Infinite
Yeah this has to be to compete with the envy tour and black venom
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Hey I saw you made a comeback today too!
I'm glad 😊 your both doing well 😅😂
Just got this ball yesterday and had my first 7-8 games with it. Ball motion's amazing! It holds the line on misses in but has sufficient push from the asymmetry on misses out. It definitely does not have the same traction as the TX-16 solid but this is where the control of the hybrid cover shines!
Not what I was hoping for. Now that I went down to 14 due to elbow issues, I was hoping for a new Phaze, a solid TX 23 cover on an AI velocity core to keep the 14 numbers close to the 15.
I think I'm excited for it. Might be a good replacement for my omega crux.
Ion Pro - Hybrid Phaze 2 with AI Core technology? This looks like it will be a good one.
Not quite, p2 cover formula but the core is quite a bit different. But yes, should be a pretty good one, I'm definitely interested.
@LukeRosdahl The core is pretty different. I saw a video where Alex Hoskins was explaining the differences as the ball rotates at different angles.
@LukeRosdahl The core is quite different. I saw a video where Alex Hoskins was explaining how the ball rolls differently depending on which part of the core is being "used". Pretty cool stuff.
@@CliftonDon74 Eh, I think it's one of those sounds better on paper things and isn't as practically impactful as it sounds. It's basically the same core that's in the Gem, and that core was from the Defiant that came out in 2012, just adjusted a bit to change the numbers. There have been several other cores that have voids where the thumb would typically go to preserve undrilled numbers, etc. More of a marketing spin than anything.
@@CliftonDon74 So yeah, the core is different from the Phaze 2 core for sure, just as far as the Ion Pro core itself, it's nothing really new or revolutionary.
Have fun with that. I got some frolf tournaments to spend the money on 🤪
The golf reference made me laugh as all my teammates deserted me for the summer to play golf. Every new ball is being released by all manufacturers just with different names.
I'm sure we'll know more come full review time with some comparisons but right now it feels like 80% of conditions I'm tossing and loving either the Journey (RIP) or the Hustle (M-M) with the rest covered by an older IQ Emerald and the Summit. I'm wondering if this would settle nicely without too much overlap as I'm currently fiddling with the last spot in the bag (plus plastic). The night road and Dark Code are just too Niche (REX pearl has shined/transitioned very weirdly). I was also thinking the new Road ball would maybe slot in there.
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DNA all over again. How can the new benchmark be weaker than the old benchmark when volume has gone up?
Yeah . . it should be a couple boards weaker than the P2. I think the p2 is still a little strong out of the box to be a real benchmark ball but honestly all it takes to get it there is 5 games of use
I mean. Color wise it looks like the Prodigy. So I guess that’s cool.
Hey! Starting to wonder if I suck more at bowling than at golf! 😆
I LOVED the TDX when I got it new and for a good few months after...and then it just got so weak that I felt like I could hammer it with surface and it would get back to it's shape for maybe a couple games. I picked up a Motiv Black Venom recently to fill that similar slot, and now with this ball I'm curious. Do you think it would overlap with my Black Venom too much, or does the hybrid cover of the Ion differentiate it enough to be a good alternative to the Black Venom on different conditions?
Pearl, hybrid, or solid really don't mean much without the strength of the cover formula, so I'd imagine the Ion will be really close to the Black Venom.
@LukeRosdahl That's my understanding, but since we don't really have numbers to actually quantify this (manufacturers PLEASE) I don't have much better to go on. I appreciate the input, sounds like if something happens to my black venom the Ion might be intriguing but otherwise I should look at the bigger gaps in my bag i.e. something between my VEBO and my old Motiv Hydra lol
@@fizz0514 Eh, quantifying something like that is virtually impossible, because first you have to quantify it and then you have to get people to understand it. When people still think that hook means backend, there's just no progress to be made there.
I always enjoy the storm videos from you. I watched the live stream yesterday for the first time. Interesting. I did hear them say something about asymmetrical like shaping it, but I took no notice until you showed the actual graphic. I did not know it was an asymmetrical ball, very interesting. It seems like there are some things new but seems some familiarity. Now this may be a little bit of a rabbit hole of a question because you know the techn stuff better than I do, but I’m learning slowly, but surely this is supposed to be in between the IQ tour, solid and the phase II I think when it comes to strength? Again correct me if I am wrong. If this is an asymmetrical ball, how could an asymmetrical ball be a benchmark ball because you usually refer to that as a symmetrical solid? Not to mention this is the TX 16 and this is a hybrid interestingly enough I have the TX 16 solid cover stock on my phase II That’s the original. Once I finally learned what the journey is, that is the pearl so how does that all compared to this ball? It comes to the asymmetricals, how does it compare to them plus how does it compared to the IQ tour solid? what I heard recently and also currently if I’m wrong I heard from one of the guys that the lightning blackout is like a stronger IQ tour and the guy from storm are saying this is a strong IQ tour. So is it Both of them? In addition to that when they came out with the summit last year, that’s still a TX series but they made a TX 23 a hybrid also a benchmark ball. came out with the summit peak, which is the pearl still TX 23 that leaves me one more question for now and that is will they still come out with another summit with a TX 23 solid cover stock? Compared to do this new ION? Thank you Luke as always keep up the great work.😀🎳✅
It should be a little weaker than the P2, little weaker core despite being asymmetric, and the hybrid version of the same formula.
The Lightning Blackout isn't necessarily a stronger IQ Tour, the cover on the LBO is stronger than the IQ Tour cover, but the core is a little weaker, and from what I've seen, those things kind of offset. The IQ Tour is a lot more stable rolling, where the LBO is really sensitive to oil.
I'm really hoping a Summit solid is coming!
@@LukeRosdahl I would love to see a storm named ball that’s a strong asymmetrical like the proton physix supernova. Very early and smooth for the fresh.
Can u do a video comparing this to the black venom?
It'd be a long shot, I'd need to get both balls and I don't think that's going to happen. I know that The Hype did a comparison with both and the Envy Tour if you want to check that out.
No scent?
Also the core looks like a modified rad-A core found on the solution series.
Scent is Kiwi tart
June Really?? Ill just use some compound on my EvyT
Yeah it's too soon and too late all at the same time. Not sure why you'd put that much effort and hype into releasing a ball absolutely dead in the middle of the bowling off season
I'm 14 lb and love my Envy Tour. I love that the numbers stay the same for 14 and 15 lb... I'm iffy about the int diff dropping too .010 on 14 lb... should I be? And diddo on the price I've seen others point out. Way too much for a benchmark, assym or not
A few points on int diff isn't THAT big of a deal, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Storm routinely does this though, the Absolute and Absolute Power had fairly weak covers on them, the Attention Star does, and those go for top price. This should actually be as strong as the AbP and Star, if not a little stronger, so if those are going for top price, I don't see why this one shouldn't as well, even though they're referring to it as a benchmark.
@@LukeRosdahl The UC2 had some assymetry. A fantastic ball at a fair price. SPI has gotten out of line with some prices. I have an Outer Limits Hybrid that is like .051 and .015 or something for it's diffs... that was $155 undrilled. Any Storm assym seems to be approx $200, which is somewhat understandable, but that Lightning Blackout is absurd. High-end cover...well, that's great. Still not going to buy it
Yeah the Lightning Blackout is insane, I'm with you there. Just with this one, kind of par for the course for them, or isn't too out of line with what they've done before. Not necessarily disagreeing with you, just saying it's not out of the ordinary. B7 manufactures in Mexico, so quite a bit cheaper operations. However, they could still choose to charge the "going rate," but they aren't.
@@LukeRosdahl fair point. Honestly, I would pay another $10 per ball to have them made in the U.S... Some of it is just getting the ball that suits me best, as I'm not on staff. A ball like Eternity Pi, it's specs change quite a bit at 14 lb. It becomes more of a medium ball and I don't want to pay $300 when all is said and done for that ball. The B7 balls seem to have more balls where the rg goes up a smidge and there is no drop in differential. Some balls like the Archetype are actually strongest at 14 lb
Is this ball stronger than the optimum idol?
No, the Optimum is quite a bit earlier and close to an arrow stronger overall
I bowl because I suck more at golf and I can make use of my "lefty" advantage.
Looks like a Rubicon uc3
I'll pass on this one, too!
They definitely said let’s go make out Motiv Blue Coral. 47/36/.13
Almost the exact same specs, which means their Motiv Venom Shock comp is on the way.
Well to be fair, the IQ Tour existed before the Venom Shock, so that's what the Venom Shock came out to compete with. But yeah, they were the last company to the party with this kind of ball.
I feel this is overpriced and much adoo about nothing. Hopefully, I'm wrong. Only time will tell.
$200 for a benchmark ball does seem to high.
Def overpriced
Ball won't be around long. It's not going to sell
Eh, like you said, there are worse things to be than an Envy Tour copycat. But an Envy Tour copycat that's for some reason $30 more expensive? Between this and the Lightning BO, it really seems like Storm is out of touch with the fact that people's discretionary spending is down. Makes you wonder how they keep doing stuff like this, while B7 keeps releasing cheaper balls that absolutely nail it. Really hope B7 doesn't take it as license to raise their prices across the board.
Part of it to be fair is that B7 manufactures stuff in Mexico, so they have a lot lower operational cost. Now at the same time, they COULD be charging what everyone else is just due to the going rate, but they aren't. I think part of that is trying to regain market share or the edge, because if they're making as good, equal to, or better stuff than everyone else AND they're cheaper, they're in business. The price gets people either in the door or back in the door, and then the performance AND price keeps them there.
This one makes sense to be at Storm's top price point, I don't have an issue with that, but the LBO is insane. I don't get how making a slightly stronger Hustle and slapping a 25 year old name on something makes it a $200 ball, especially with just discontinuing the Journey, which is a stronger ball. Apparently they couldn't even give those away, but they think they can sell a weaker ball for the same price?
@@LukeRosdahl is the journey really discontinued already? it just came out in November lol
Yep. Didn't even make it 6 months
@farmboy805 That is kinda a shocker wonder if belmo is happy about that or new belmo ball
@LukeRosdahl To add to what you said, I believe B7 is the only manufacturer that offers 2-year warranties as well. If your locally made, USA products are superior then stand by them.
This is feeling real “absolute” like to me. Thats not a good thing.
And I absolutely hated the Absolute. I fell for the hype of that ball and it was trash for me.
Nah. Absolute was a really good ball. Nice for when you need some good length and then pop on the back end.
@@strikezone1879 It was trash for me. I know plenty of people who love it but I just didn’t match up with it.
It was on the cleaner and weaker side though, definitely not benchmark ball territory. The worry here after 5 or 10 games after that surface comes off, is will it end up being too weak too?
I’ll just stick to my motiv black venom the specs look the same and my venom is much cheaper
Some how this ball does not excite me.🤔
$200 for an envy tour rip? And this comes after the $200 altered hustle in the lightning blackout?? Does Storm think they are selling eggs and milk?
Curing cancer apparently . .
Storm released have been uninspiring lately. Lots of duds and overpriced
Well at least it looks terrible
Eh, like I said, looks a ton better on their livestream. Not sure why they decided to start doing these renders, they all look like dogshit, the actual ball always ends up looking better.
@@LukeRosdahl yeah that's a good point. I remember buying the zen master a while back and legitimately thinking I was mailed a different ball because of how different it was then the render
Hate to say it but storm balls have been pretty bad since the ball bans. Not sure what is going on over there but a lot of the new balls that they release are duds and overpriced
Why is it so ugly…
Eh, like I said, their renders all suck, the ball looks quite a bit sharper in real life. Looks a lot like a Kinetic Cobalt