PCB process using photoresist dry film
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- Printed Circuit Board process using photoresist dry film. Proceso de creación de un circuito impreso usando película fotosensible.
If you want to see the same circuit test with the method of the toner transfer paper:
Si quieres ver el mismo circuito de test con el método del papel de transferencia de toner:
• PCB process using Tone... 
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If you want to see the same circuit test with the method of the toner transfer paper:
Si quieres ver el mismo circuito de test con el método del papel de transferencia de toner:ruclips.net/video/gm9gw3OwdLA/видео.html
Donde consigo los quimicos en Colombia? Pones links en ls descripcion porfa? Me parece que estas en Medellin pero si sabes de algo en Bogota mejor.
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Watch it at 2x speed for time saving and cheerful music!
I came from the future and i can confirm this is legit
Thank you! The the clearest tutorial I have found on YT for using dry film.
Bob, thought I'd let you know and others that may be interested, The Muriatic Acid and Hydrogen Peroxide works excellent! What normally took almost more than a few hours with Ferric Acid...The Muriatic Acid and Peroxide took a matter of a few minuets. ....just plain WOW!
Luis Acebal is using Hydrochloric Acid (Muriatic Acid)and Sodium Perborate in his video. Are you substituting Hydrogen Peroxide for Sodium Perborate. If so, what is the mixture? Sodium Perborate is a powder while Hydrogen Peroxide is liquid.
Este es el unico video que explica con claridad y lucides en toda la web felicitaciones al que lo produjo....
nice...
For photo mask I use transparent film for laser printer
For polishing I use kitchen sponge (hard side)
I use water spray for attaching photoresist, it makes process more softly and adjustable
For lamination I use paper cover, to prevent thermal damage
For developing I use silicone glue, it work slowly but softly, you do not need care about proportion of mix
Excellent video on DIY PCB. Low cost, fast and high quality.
Hola Senior, La presentación en general fue muy buena, bien ilustrada y fácil de entender. La presentación tenía un inconveniente y era el uso de fuentes blancas sobre fondo blanco. No está mal, ya que vi el video completo y me preocupé lo suficiente como para recibir comentarios. Gracias, buen video.
Hola Luis, muchas gracias por el video, es excelentisisisisimo, siempre quise aprender hacer asi mis circuitos cuando era estudiante, y es muy lindo ver todo el proceso, muchas gracias y felicidades, hoy dia como hobbista, hago mis circuitos por metodo de transferencia de toner, con un gran resultado, no del nivel del fotoresist, pero muy bueno, que digo bueno excelente tu video, gracias totales, saludos
Very very nice Luis. Thanks a lot for sharing such knowledge.
Very good video/demomstration throughout. Thank you.
Gracias por este video.Aqui se ve paso a paso lo que hay que hacer y como hacerlo.Saludos
Encendiste los tubos fluorescentes reciclando el circuito de una bombilla fluorescente, hermoso..
Thannk you for putting this in English as well :) Nice Job Luis!
Good video, I haven't made a pcb in years and I used the older Ferric Chloride method. But make sure to agitate the etching chemicals in both axis evenly, that is left to right AND up to down. Agitation in one axis will preferentially etch between close traces in that direction, and less well for close traces running perpendicular to the direction of agitation.
Also i used to put the container of etchant into a bath of hot water to warm it up prior to use. Cold etchant will work so slowly that the old etch resist i used would start to dissolve before a good etch was complete. Although I have no idea if that would help or hurt your chemistry process.
Buen día. Excelente vídeo Luis, muchas gracias. he realizado varias de estas pero con otros métodos. Creo que va ha ser la mejor forma y mas efectiva. Éxitos desde Colombia.
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Great video mate. Although at some points you could've sped the video up. One thing I wantrd to point out: for cleaning the copper I use a 10000 grid padd. It gives a much more equal and Smooth finish.
Excellent demonstration - thanks for sharing.
Excelente trabalho, e que material ótimo esse, parabéns....
Como no se me habia ocurrido esto sabiendo yo serigrafia gracias por el video=== thanks for share your video i trying now with serigraphy
Greatvideo. Been have ago at this myself today. I am having a lot of problems getting the film flat without bubbles you made it look very easy. But thanks for sharing regards Chris
I had the same problem but I found how to get it flat using a heardryer, I saw it here: ruclips.net/video/1C3k6dyVN18/видео.html
It works perfectly. Brilliant!!!
Nicely explained , everything is clear to understand, Thanks.
Desde luego que deja buenas impresiones. Hasta ahora he hecho muy pocas placas, para un par de proyectos caseros, y he usado la técnica del rotulador indeleble... pero viendo los buenos resultados que deja el uso de películas fotosensibles, creo que voy a cambiar de método en cuanto vea una placa que requiera cierta... finura a la hora de hacerla. Supongo que también se podría mejorar un poco la calidad de los acabados usando impresora láser en una lámina transparente... Mola, muy ilustrativo el vídeo, thumbs up!!
Hola Daniel: Efectivamente si es importante la calidad de la impresión, pero solo para afinar mucho, para un circuito con pistas anchas sin componentes SMD no es fundamental, si tienes que afinar mucho puedes encargar fotolitos en acetato, son más caros pero te sirven para muchas tiradas. Gracias por tu comentario.
Muy bien explicado, buen video gracias por compartir tus conocimientos (Leonardo de Argentina
most important for a good result is the artwork film and the exposure unit. a one light bulb source is still the best way to go.
at the moment working on a real artwork making plotter to exposure film. toner transfer is okay for basic work and one off pcb's
Great ! U are the man ! Nice job.
If I can approach that level of quality I'll be happy.
que hermoso trabajo!! 😍
excelente!! muchas gracias, hago placas debes en cuando y siempre me olvido del proceso...
Amigo disculpa la pregunta has hecho la prueba. Ok materiales de acero, se puede hacer ese mismo método en otros metales te agradecería me pudieras confirmar
Hello! Thank You for this great video tutorial. One question - the test pcb - is it your own project or have you found it somewhere on the web?
Hola, cuales son las proporciones que utilizaste de ácido clorhídrico y el perborato?
Muy buena técnica
@Luis Acebal At 9.53 secs, how did the UV lamp shine through the paper with the pcb design on it, was it acetate or a clear paper you printed it on?
Excelente vídeo, muchas gracias, mira una pregunta, que tipo de papel es el que usas?
Perfect!
excelente video
Very helpful. Thank you.
Hola que tal, una consulta Cual es modelo de la enmicadora y si le has hecho alguna modificación o lo usas tal cual la compraste
Muy buen video
Great tutorial. Thanks for sharing your experience. Question: what kind of laminator you used? Who is the vendor? Thanks again.
Thanks more steps but less mess !
Una pregunta este proceso sirve para grabar placas de cobre o bronce en ácido.gracias
Thank you very much for this video, but what are the proportions of HCl and sodium perborate please?
Excelente tutorial, el mejor explicado que he visto..
Hola muy bueno ¿que químico usas como revelador, es soda caustica?
My issue is using the light blue photoresist and ArcAiN6, perhaps that is the problem! Using photoresist to do 2-sided PCBs and so far, after exposure, placing into the sodium carbonate, one side turns out great...the other side rinses right off!!! WTH?!! Placing the film on both sides? Done the same exact way! SOOOO...? Any thoughts? I use a normal laminator but I put the PCB(s) in right from start and just continue to push though until they start to get hot.
You are a genius.thanks
Sodium perborate is not easily supplied at my place. Perhaps I could replace it with sodium perchlorate that is in just about any oxy-action bleach in every household. I like how your PCB got etched so nicely with this combination of chemicals.
Thanks for your insight.
I have a question. Will this process work on a Metalcore board? The metal core has metal on both sides of aluminum and copper.
How do you use this papel cebolla? It looks according to the video that the image has been transferred via UV exposure. Are there any links showing how to prepare this papel cebolla for positive or negative exposure? After the papel cebolla is finished can you eat it?
¿Podrías decirnos la luz que empleaste para grabar el vídeo sin que afecte a la película fotosensible?
So I'm curious if I'd be able to achieve the accuracy I'm looking for using this method. I will have say 100 - 0.016" diameter opening in the solder mask distributed across a 6"X12" board. No plated through holes but there will be 0.125" tooling/alignment holes. The mask opening needs to have a tolerance of -0.001" + 0.003". If not, if there another DIY technique anyone would recommend?
Very cool thanks
Buenas noches tendrás algún video de como fabricaste la insoladora. Gracias
Music -100 points !
Well done
Great video tnx :D
Hello. Thank you for this video. In the past I have only used Toner Transfer film, an electric iron, and Ferric Chloride. What is the advantage of this kind of film? Better resolution? What about the chemicals? They seem more dangerous, are they just faster, or are they more precise than ferric chloride?
Hi friend, Good question, I have not yet made any particular comparison of the two techniques, but It is possible that the next video I made is a comparison with the method you say and the same test circuit, So far I've already got 100 sheets of toner transfer paper. Regarding chemicals, the fundamental difference is the etching speed, with ferric chloride I remember having to leave it overnight. Thanks and regards.
What is the common name of sodium perborate ? Can buy from Walmart etc ? I think this is better than HCl plus h2o2
Hi, its a joy to watch how beautiful the PCB being made in home easily. Could you please send us the aliexpress link that you bought the film from? I ordered two times and they sent me really crap item and was not wrinkle free. We would love to hear from you in this regard. Thank you in advance.
Wonderful you are Great
Background music was nice 👍👍👍
what laminator you have used ? how can we adjust thickness of laminator to PCB thickness ?
Why do you need to laminate it?. Does it is used to avoid bubbles or to transfer some layer from film to pcb?
Cheers fella ;)
Hola a que temperatura y altura tienes puesto la plastificadora?
fuaaaaaa que acavado mas prooo. que maquina usaste para sacarle las burbujas al film pegada con la vaquelita??
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Hola, se puede usar cualquier laminadora? Quiero comprar una pero no se si cualquiera permite meterle una pcb de 1mm o 2mm de grosor. Gracias!
Perfect!Thanks a lot!
Felicitarte, por la claridad de la exposición, y de paso preguntarte, si sabes las proporciones de los productos químicos, para el estañado frio, por inmersión.
De todas formas muchas gracias, a que no sabia, como utilizar este film
Using an old printer/scanner is genius!
Brother, This has to be one of the best videos for dry film application. BTW, where can I find that test pattern? Another thing bro. I love toking to this video!!!!! 😌
Hello,
If you are not happy with the exposure result, can you clean the pcb with acetone?
how to get the negative image i have a program en it gives out only positive.
Buenas noches, saludos desde Buenos Aires. Quería saber mas de la laminadora... que espesor máximo admite? Gracias. Por aca se consiguen laminadoras a bajo coste pero maximo dice 330 micrones... un pcb virgen son 1500 micrones. Sobrepasa en 5 veces esa medida. Verdad? Saludos cordiales.
what would be a good way to do this with a 2 layer pcb?
Luis muy bueno.
una duda, que proporcion utilizas en el atacado?
acido + perborato?
Lo único que te puedo decir que uso acido + agua oxigenada de 110 vol. 2 partes de agua + 1 de acido + 1 de agua oxigenada, además siguiendo el orden que puse para hacerlo
nice video, thanks. I was thinking that is the film protective layers heat resistant enough to print directly on that?
NO, it is not heat resistant for that, it will stick on the printer rollers. do NOT try :)
¿Podrías compartir el circuito que imprimiste para hacer esta prueba?
Insane.
Hola, gracias por el video. Una pregunta que tipo de laminadora usas? He tenido algunos problemas al pegar el papel a la baquelita, a veces me queda con grumos o partes arrugadas, no logro que me quede totalmente liso como en el video, y me he dado cuenta que ahí radica el éxito del resto del proceso. Tambien me pasa que al pasarlo por la laminadora parte del papel como que se derrite y se queda pegado por dentro... te agradecería cualquier consejo
Hola Andrés, es una laminadora doméstica para plastificar documentos, la puedes encontrar en carrefour por 30 euros.Respecto a colocar el film, efectivamente es un paso clave, no pueden quedar burbujas, sino de ahí saldrá una arruga, no lo aprietes mucho de manera que puedas posicionarlo manualmente, luego presionas un poco desde el centro hacia los lados, si queda burbuja lo sacas y lo vuelves a colocar.Respecto a pasar por la laminadora, pues es mejor cortar el film a ras de la placa, yo en este ejemplo he dejado solo unos milimetros por lado (excepto el lado que entra primero que va al ras) y los he cortado para la segunda pasada. Si dejas mucho margen el film se pegará en los rodillos de la laminadora y te va a liar una. A mi me paso y estube 2 horas limpiando los rodillos, esto seguramente será tu problema, tienes la laminadora sucia y por eso ahora te salen "grumos". Pues eso, un saludo.
What is the distance between the fluorescent lamps and the scanner glass?
Hi! could you share the test pattern you used? If you have the Kicad project would be great, but a .pdf will be enough. I want to test the precision I get at home. Thanks!
In the European Union, sodium perborate, like most borates, was classified as "carcinogenic, mutagenic, or toxic for reproduction" (CMR)
does this work to silicon as well or only to copper
Felicitaciones qué programa usas para crear Pcb
As pub boards are ready with holes and soldered then how to make them the circuit
Hello, very good video!
Can you please post the circuit pdf or give me the link where you take it.
I like that design. I was looking on web but I didn't found it!
thank you!
please, what exact printer model did you use to print the film or paper?
según esos resultados, ¿ cuál es la menor distancia a la que podrían estar las pistas sin que se comuniquen?
Bueno en el video las pistas que estaban comunicadas tenian una separación de 0,1mm, yo creo que afinando más con un buen fotolito y con unos segundos más en el ácido hubieran quedado separadas. Yo creo que podrías conseguir 0,1mm de separación.
Hey, what microscope do you use at the end?
Hola. Y cómo desechar la mezcla con ácido clorhídrico?
Great video! You make the process look simple and easy. I use the same process and I have an issue with the laminator. I have to make three passes otherwise the film does not stick firmly. The problem is that at the last pass for single sided boards and at the second pass for the double sided boards (that are thicker) I get some kind of clear traces. Have you ever had this issue? If so what was the solution?
It has never happened to me, every laminator is different, especially the domestic ones,
Some make more pressure and others less, the same with the temperature. You always have the option of doing it with an iron.
Thank you Luis. Like you said it may be because of the strong pressure. The one I use is an office one. It expects thin papers so with a thick pcb it applies a lot of pressure indeed. I tried to loosen it a little but it may damage it once and for all. I guess I'll keep it with two passes for now until I find a laminator that is more suitable for PCBs.
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Oui.
very good work
Where I bought the good kind of film
un merecido like...que puedes hacer con aquellas pistas?? rasparlas un poco??
Gracias amigo. Se puede intentar raspar un poco si la zona es pequeña, aunque lo correcto sería ajustar un poco mas de tiempo en el ácido para la próxima vez y seguro que sale perfecto.
FYI Acetone is really really bad to handle with your bare hands. You would probably be better off using alcohol, but even a stronger solvent such as laquer thinner is better for you than Acetone.
Acetone affects your immune system by leaching oils out of your skin. You absorb a lot of it when handling it because of this....
As an ex-autobody shop owner and painter, I used acetone as a cheap solvent for years. I developed bad chemical allergies from handling the stuff too much. Seriously, it's much better to limit acetone use as much as possible ;)
-Jake
or just put a proper gloves - also cleaning with anything and then touching with fingers is counterproductive ..
Tell women that when they clean the polish off of thier nails with nail polish remover - aka Acetone.
Acetone might smell pungent but other than drying out your skin it dos not do much harm when used occasionally. Household alcohol @ 94% will be as flammable and will dry out your skin to the same extent - that's why it's used a "chemical" drying agent when preparing biology specimens. However, it will not be able to remove fatty acids or mineral oils from the work piece as good as a proper solvent does (ahhh, the days of trichloroethylene...). The amount of acetone absorbed via skin is neglible and it does not harm your respiratory system - unlike paint thinner which can cause "chemical pneumonia" (which can be lethal) even in small amounts. Repeated use certainly does affect nerves and brain - just like any solvent but for occasional use by amateurs it's probably even better than ethyl acetate.
@@f.d.6667 If Acetone did that much damage to the human body it wouldn't be sold to women as nail polish remover!
Acetone is also used for surgical adhesive dressing removal to remove the sticky residue from the skin, again this wouldn't be done if it was harmful, a little dry skin isn't a serious danger if it is just your hands. USE polythene gloves, nitrile rubber gloves are dissolved by acetone.