What The Good Place Finale Revealed About Jason Mendoza ('The Good Place')

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
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    As an anticipated follow-up to our previous video on ‘The Good Place’, today we are looking at What The Good Place Finale Revealed About Jason Mendoza! ‘The Good Place’ ended a while back, but we just can’t seem to let go of the joy and wonder this character brought us! Jason Mendoza, the Modern Monk, here we go!
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    00:10 - Introduction
    03:37 - The Finale
    08:33 - The Journey
    13:47 - The Verdict
    14:36 - The Question
    15:00 - The Super-Secret Surprise
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  • @ithinkicanwrite
    @ithinkicanwrite  4 года назад +183

    If we reach 2,000 VIEWS and 500 LIKES, we'll create the upcoming video! Let me know what you guys would like, if the option at the end of the video wouldn't be interesting! :)
    Tahani Video: ruclips.net/video/mJXFvcIvMlo/видео.html
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    • @yseson_
      @yseson_ 3 года назад +5

      Jason didn’t become a Monk he becomes a Buddha

    • @sophiabell1916
      @sophiabell1916 3 года назад +3

      There is only one Buddha and that is Sidharta Gautama, the original enlightened one. Jason can become enlightened in the same way as The Buddha, but cannot 'become' one.

    • @awesomesausome1557
      @awesomesausome1557 2 года назад +3

      ah man, 2,000, congrats, hope it get's more!

    • @TheTheowl360
      @TheTheowl360 2 года назад +1

      @@yseson_ thank you, i came here to say this

    • @maisiesummers42
      @maisiesummers42 Год назад +1

      Kim Hill is very onto it when it comes to the issues, and as a political journalist for many years is well-practised in shutting down idiots.

  • @theactualgarfield5024
    @theactualgarfield5024 Год назад +807

    Dude. Eleanor was supposed to be "a lawyer that saved innocent people from death row". And at the end of the show, she overturns the whole system in order to save all of humanity from being tortured for eternity. Damn this show is wonderful.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  Год назад +31

      It really is

    • @SlightyLessEvolved
      @SlightyLessEvolved 11 часов назад

      And Tahani becomes an actual philanthropist, dedicating herself for eternity to bettering the lives of others.

  • @aidanwotherspoon905
    @aidanwotherspoon905 3 года назад +5024

    This did get me thinking that Jason’s only moral failings in life were largely due to his living in poverty. At one point Tahani recognizes this-and the fact that her wealthy upbringing ruined her-and wants to give all her money to Jason. I think it’s an important observation that Jason’s character never changed much because he didn’t really need to change, he just needed the right environment to succeed morally and spiritually

    • @TheWinterscoming
      @TheWinterscoming 3 года назад +262

      And most of those moral failings weren't all that immoral given his circumstances

    • @MoonstarWStarmoon
      @MoonstarWStarmoon 3 года назад +279

      Jason was that class clown in school that would of actually been smart had they been given the proper environment to thrive

    • @reezy9727
      @reezy9727 2 года назад +63

      Nah Jason was genetically predestined to be dumb and lemme tell you growing up in florida ain't doin him no favors

    • @ceroca91
      @ceroca91 2 года назад +4

      Nailed ot

    • @jessicamattes4208
      @jessicamattes4208 2 года назад +127

      I mean, this is explored in the episode when they try to save Donkey Doug/Pillboi. Upon meeting Jason's father and watching them interact, Tahani says that everything makes a lot more sense now. Just by seeing his everyday life, Tahani can much more easily understand how Jason became the person he did

  • @mbanerjee5889
    @mbanerjee5889 3 года назад +3847

    Jason has emotional intelligence, more than anyone else on the show. That's why despite literally knowing everything, it was Jason that taught Janet how to love. Jason made Janet human, and thus more advance than every other Janet before her. And it's those qualities that made Janet a better friend to everyone, especially Micheal.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +202

      That's a very interesting and well put point about the domino effect of kindness and the impact Jason indirectly had on the show!

    • @merrymerry8495
      @merrymerry8495 3 года назад +101

      The four humans are all part of the human psyche and represent four parts of the human consciousness

    • @everlight5733
      @everlight5733 3 года назад +57

      @@merrymerry8495 the four souls of the shikkon jewel - courage, friendship, patience, and intelligence.

    • @DeathnoteBB
      @DeathnoteBB 3 года назад +28

      That is true, Jason was the one who connected with Janet when she was first rebooting.

    • @tinamoul
      @tinamoul 3 года назад +8

      I don't know, I think Eleanor has a lot of emotional intelligence too.

  • @technoeevee6969
    @technoeevee6969 3 года назад +1406

    Jason is the embodiment of 0 Int, 20 Wis

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +125

      Cross-genre references are TIGHT! We approve of them here!

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +60

      @Brandon Thompson Hey, one more cross-reference from you and you're going to have to do a backflip, snap the bad guy's neck, and save the day!

    • @TizzyD
      @TizzyD 3 года назад +26

      I would not say he has an INT of 0; rather, he knows how to grill his fish rather than list off the steps of the Maillard reaction. INT makes sure you can read the recipe; WIS is how you know just when to add the salt so as to not pull too much water from the vegetables. As solution architect for years, it's not the INT of the components that solve the problem; it's the WIS of their appropriate application that can make the solution work.

    • @juanmvaldivia
      @juanmvaldivia 3 года назад +23

      I like the D&D look. Yet it's more like a 6 Int, and 20 Wis with a 16 Cha. :-)

    • @neiljohnsemaning6227
      @neiljohnsemaning6227 3 года назад +3

      I would say 2 int, 20 wis, 20 street smart

  • @mrdictator7030
    @mrdictator7030 3 года назад +2197

    Jason is portrayed to be stupid only for comedic purposes, unlike many of the other clown characters in other shows he never messes up the plans or acts in a genuinely stupid way(except maybe the 1st Janet reboot). For example in the beginning he knows, that if he talks, then he is toast and has pretty good patience and self control to not talk.In S4 during the experiment he plays his role of a monk perfectly and never once does he create a problem for the team.

    • @Purpleturtlehurtler
      @Purpleturtlehurtler 3 года назад +143

      If anything he's glad to step up and act like his old self to get Chidi to start growing in that iteration.

    • @elinfelicia382
      @elinfelicia382 3 года назад +137

      I’ve never figured out why I liked him so much despite me tending to hate the comedic relief dumb character. This just summed it up for me thanks.

    • @DragonTrainer201
      @DragonTrainer201 3 года назад +49

      Well… to be fair, in s4, he did mess up once by rebooting Derek. He let his jealousy get the better of him for one small moment. I do still agree with you, though, for the most part.

    • @monicac2466
      @monicac2466 3 года назад +56

      @@DragonTrainer201 Yeah that's not a careless, I'm too stupid to understand consequences kind of action. That's a very humanly impulsive action because of jealousy.

    • @jamesramplin8124
      @jamesramplin8124 3 года назад +11

      @@elinfelicia382 This show is just amazing like that. So many things are just perfect. It all makes sense. The writers clearly thought very hard about this show. You can tell that just from all the callbacks.
      Certain ideas would be brought up and because this show is basically perfect I'd be like "oh no, this is a tiny flaw but it kinda ruins it for me" but then they'd fix it instantly and bringing that up in the first place was all just part of the writing and the philisophical messages of the show. I hope this makes sense to somebody else.
      This show just feels like it was made for me because I had the exact same questions in my head and they will show an answer that I disagree with but then that was the plan all along and THIS is really the good place so the show fixes it and perfectly shows that argument I had had in my own head. Plus Timothy Olyphant has a cameo making it extra perfect. It's freaky how much this show feels like it's for me.
      I love this show, the writing is impeccable!

  • @marynabardadym8368
    @marynabardadym8368 3 года назад +1119

    When you think about it this way, the other characters also became their "fake good place version". Jason spent time alone in nature waiting for Janet as a monk. Tahini became an accomplished do-gooder for the sake of good and accomplishement. Chidi is the self assured teacher of the group. Eleanor helps people selflessly

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +147

      That is a very good point, Maryna, I never realised that! I guess the Bad Place/Good Place was, as they were saying at the end of the show, about bringing out a person's inner self. Ironically, those inner selves ended up being genuine representations of their 'fake' selves, well spotted!

    • @babywasabi
      @babywasabi 3 года назад +19

      tahani would Not appreciate that typo there 🤣 besides that, i agree with your comment

    • @hittingyouoverthehead
      @hittingyouoverthehead 3 года назад +28

      Tahani expanded her horizons and tried and excelled in things which she considered "un-ladylike" before like carpentry, architecture and more. She always had low self esteem because of her sister and thought her only talent was throwing parties and doing charity. Like you said, she abandoned competition and learned trades and skills genuinely because she wanted to feel the joy of learning and doing it. And for many people reaching that point is really difficult. Most people get stuck up in using the thing that they love the most to compete with others.
      Also, Chidi is not just "the teacher". He's someone who knows what he wants and is no longer hit with dilemma every time he's presented with choices. He decides he wants to go through the gate and he sticks to the decision. When he realizes that that decision would make Eleanor sad, he postpones the decision, not because of self doubt but for her. He learns determination.
      As for Eleanor, it's like you said. She does selfless things without thinking about it or expecting credit.

    • @permanentstateofawe6544
      @permanentstateofawe6544 2 года назад +37

      The biggest irony is that Eleanor and Chidi end up actually living in that Nordic-design clown portrait house unironically and making it their home.

  • @moonlight2870
    @moonlight2870 3 года назад +1823

    Jason is not...conventionally smart, but he has his own form of wisdom that sometimes not even himself is aware.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +52

      Hahaha! I feel like that is the perfect way to summarise the character, yes!

    • @diegoaraya6560
      @diegoaraya6560 3 года назад +28

      But Jason didn't really had any conventional education, lynyrd skynyrd wasn't really a good school, and being raised by Dounky Doug as a single father didn't make him any favor.

    • @zoock5
      @zoock5 3 года назад +16

      Yeah, when he said something smart it never felt out of character to me, even if at other times he had no idea what was actually happening.

    • @danieljames1868
      @danieljames1868 3 года назад +15

      Wisdom is knowledge gained through experience. Or, in other words, street smarts. Which he *definitely* does have some degree of.

    • @cookiess5049
      @cookiess5049 3 года назад

      No he’s an idiot

  • @rowandunning6877
    @rowandunning6877 3 года назад +1148

    my favorite jason quote is...to paraphrase "whenever I have a problem, I throw a molotov cocktail at it and then boom, now I have a different problem"

    • @FrancisR420
      @FrancisR420 3 года назад +19

      You mean the cold open to the video?

    • @eansba88-
      @eansba88- 3 года назад +34

      Reminds me of a quote from a John waters movie "Cecil B. Demented ; "drugs really brought focus to my life, before I started using i had all sorts of problems, but now, man, I only have the one" makes me chuckle every time I watch that flick.

    • @Nightriser271828
      @Nightriser271828 3 года назад +3

      It's like hitting a randomize button.

    • @philjb
      @philjb 3 года назад +1

      Have it on a shirt 😀

    • @princesscaroline198
      @princesscaroline198 Год назад

      Mine is actually when he throws said Molotov while yelling ‘Joooooooortles’ 😂😂

  • @sheridandwyer
    @sheridandwyer 4 года назад +1848

    Ooh I never noticed that he specifically explained his feeling of being ready in ways both Chidi and Eleanor could get. I love that, what a great subtle way to show his growth.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  4 года назад +136

      It's a very subtle thing, but it's such a nice way of showing what true wisdom is. It fit the character so well.

    • @certiimxhzn
      @certiimxhzn 3 года назад +5

      @@ithinkicanwrite very true

    • @DeathnoteBB
      @DeathnoteBB 3 года назад +42

      I never noticed either! Reminds me of when they went to rescue Janet in the Bad Place and Jason got across he and Michael were the real them in a way that Janet would understand. And then Janet says “Not a girl” back to show she was the real her

    • @jamesramplin8124
      @jamesramplin8124 3 года назад +17

      @@DeathnoteBB I know right! That was also the perfect set up for the finale when Jason decides to go. Instead of simply repeating a running joke it is actually a special part of the plot and their relationship. Like think about it, the moment he saves her from hell they used that to help save her. So the silly joke phrase actually has emotional significance for the characters and us, the viewers. Reallt clever writing. This isn't just a simple show, it's amazing. Every little bit of it just fills me with joy. The writers clearly cared a lot

  • @lydias342
    @lydias342 3 года назад +2145

    A line was cut from the finale where Tahani says “Jason was kind to me. And never for any reason than that it is good to be kind” I think that’s part of Jason’s beauty. He combines pure love of living with impulsivity, which leads his train of thought to go along the lines of “oh being kind is good! That’s dope I think I’ll be kind” without a second thought. Eventually he becomes the best version of himself by telling Janet “looking good not a girl” this shows that he thought before he spoke (by remembering Janet is not a girl) but he still values kindness over intelligence and allows himself to tell Janet that it was in his other pocket.
    Anyway absolutely wonderful video! Brilliant theory.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +104

      I didn't know that! That's a really cool detail, I wish they hadn't cut that out! I completely agree, Jason is kind because it is good to be kind, without a second thought, which is what makes him such a loveable character!
      I am glad you enjoyed the video!

    • @hkazu63
      @hkazu63 3 года назад +19

      Wait, didn’t Tahani say that during the funerals episode, while they waited for the judge’s verdict?

    • @erinjohnson7329
      @erinjohnson7329 Месяц назад

      Yeah, Bill & Ted's maxims for life are at Jason's core

  • @Nitzah
    @Nitzah 3 года назад +955

    I feel like Jason is a good example of someone who doesn’t align with the standard intelligence like Chidi, but develops his emotional intelligence and wisdom to be what it always could be. He’s definitely that dumb friend that others might not get why you still hang out with until they become his friend and realize that he just tries to make life happier for people around him from a pure place of love and care for his homies.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +40

      That is exactly it! He's such a pure and kind soul, with a lot of emotional intelligence!

    • @victorpradha9946
      @victorpradha9946 2 года назад +12

      Wisdom is the art of achieving understanding without the need to add knowledge (or from the Western perspective FACTS or information). The Hindus would call understanding or discernment, Viveka.
      Consider that we live in the information age, libraries of data at our fingertips, and seem to be on a perpetual fact finding quest and yet, instead of achieving greater understanding (bridging the distance between one another), there seems to be even more polarization.

    • @aceroy9195
      @aceroy9195 Год назад +3

      ​@@victorpradha9946 preach

  • @nicoleguidry5233
    @nicoleguidry5233 Год назад +159

    Jason's biggest flex was when he realized he couldn't "save" his father but could save his friend but still loved his father for who he was. That's next level EI

  • @maisiesummers42
    @maisiesummers42 Год назад +110

    Another sign that Jason is smart, actually, is that upon awakening in the fake Good Place, and being told he's a monk with a vow of silence, he actually manages to keep quiet and go along with it.

    • @krunkjunk
      @krunkjunk Год назад +15

      I feel like it could be an example of masking. Even in a junk yard school, he would have been singled out, likely bullied, for ADHD and would have learned coping mechanisms like masking.

  • @elinyancat
    @elinyancat 3 года назад +402

    When I started the good place i thought that heaven was really classist because Jason was a good person, just a victim of his circumstances and I think its great that the series explore that angle

    • @bellsdels
      @bellsdels Год назад +34

      I love that the four main characters were not all the same financially. You have one rich (Tahani), one comfortable middle class (Chidi), one on the lower end of middle class (Eleanor) and then one in straight up poverty. This fact really solidified that money does not play a role in a person’s ability to be morally good or virtuous

  • @ohkay8939
    @ohkay8939 2 года назад +446

    Jason tricking Chidi into giving himself advise on how not to keep on panicking about his relationship with Eleanor is one of my favourite Jason moments in the series. Thank you for putting this video together :)

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  2 года назад +19

      It was definitely my pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!

    • @katjones6997
      @katjones6997 Год назад

      @@ithinkicanwrite I dont remember which episode thats in, can you remind me please?

    • @lexsunsh1ne
      @lexsunsh1ne Год назад +3

      @@katjones6997 season 4, episode 11!

    • @katjones6997
      @katjones6997 Год назад

      @@lexsunsh1ne thank you!

  • @CharlesGouraudgaming
    @CharlesGouraudgaming 3 года назад +324

    Jason is also the one who gets through to the judge on why you can't judge everyone on the same level, with his talk about the person in his dance crew who had to take care of their relatives.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +53

      That is true! Sometimes the simplest and most obvious answer is the best one.

    • @isapu1948
      @isapu1948 2 года назад +3

      Four d##king jobs
      When did the poor man sleep??!

    • @julianmartinez4719
      @julianmartinez4719 Год назад +1

      I loved that moment.

  • @TRayTV
    @TRayTV 3 года назад +175

    If anything, his character progression was that he became more aware of how his actions affect others.
    He had the capacity for selflessness but was too naive to predict the harm of his actions.

  • @thisisrenren3657
    @thisisrenren3657 3 года назад +362

    I was raised Mahayana Buddhist and my husband is Zen Buddhist and we've been talking about this FOREVER! We've discussed on several occasions that he exemplifies inherent Buddha Nature. So glad someone finally pointed it out!

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +22

      That is so cool! Glad to have added to that discussion topic now, hahahah

    • @6Uncles
      @6Uncles Год назад +1

      Zen is mahayana

    • @thisisrenren3657
      @thisisrenren3657 Год назад +18

      ​@@6Uncles Zen is a Japanese tradition without gods or an afterlife and I grew up going to a Vietnamese Mahayana Buddhist temple which recognizes multiple levels of both heaven and hell, and celebrate a multitude of holidays that the Zen tradition does not. Zen is a concept across Buddhist traditions, but a Zen Buddhism is it's own thing. I know the difference and I did not misspeak.

    • @6Uncles
      @6Uncles Год назад +4

      @@thisisrenren3657 Zen Buddhism is also mahayana. Mahayana is not a tradition in and of itself, it's an orientation which encompasses various traditions.

    • @death299
      @death299 Год назад +4

      @@thisisrenren3657 i mean you literally did, Zen Buddhism is literally a Japanese sect of Mahayana that developed from Chinese belief systems during the tang dynasty.
      Mahayana is a main branch, with Theravada being an offshoot due to disagreements
      there are 3 branches, Mahayana, Theravada and Vajrayana. within those are individuals "leaves" (sects/denominations) that encompass variety of different beliefs
      Zen buddahism is literally a sect of Mahayana

  • @AsciiKing
    @AsciiKing 2 года назад +77

    When Jason says that they are either in an alien zoo or on a prank show, he is right on both counts. An alien zoo is a strange and unearthly place you put earthly creatures to observe them. A prank show is just lying to people for public entertainment. His description was actually closer than predicting they were in the bad place.

  • @alwest4472
    @alwest4472 3 года назад +240

    He was never fake, never mean, cared and tried to help wherever he could. Despite his actions on earth, he genuinely deserved to be in the good place all along, he was a monk all along

  • @PracticallyEmpty
    @PracticallyEmpty 3 года назад +387

    I always wondered how Jason even got into the bad place.. he was so pure and innocent.. and definitely represented how there was something wrong with the system from the beginning..

    • @jamiefrontiera1671
      @jamiefrontiera1671 3 года назад +161

      he might have been pure of heart and had a child like innocence, but he still did things of questionable morals during his human life like stealing, violence (molotov cocktails for one) etc. Plus, the show points out many times how impulsive he was. He was just more of a chaotic neutral or sometimes chaotic good rather than chaotic evil. But also the show was about how most people are not good or evil all of the time, and the system was flawed for everyone.

    • @Lyca31
      @Lyca31 3 года назад +68

      By that time, everyone was going into the Bad Place because the system was flawed and broken.

    • @christafranken9170
      @christafranken9170 3 года назад +38

      @@jamiefrontiera1671 also, his main way of making money before he died, was selling fake drugs to kids. That's not great

    • @jamiefrontiera1671
      @jamiefrontiera1671 2 года назад +4

      @@christafranken9170 i never said he was, i was pointing out he had questionable morals and poor impulse control. it was the other person wondering why he was even in the bad place

    • @volvoblues
      @volvoblues Год назад +28

      ​@@christafranken9170
      Better than selling them real drugs!

  • @cineaste485
    @cineaste485 2 года назад +94

    Everything Michael said to mess with them came true
    Jason: turned into the monk
    Tahahi: Became a well respected “party planner” designing afterlives for people
    Chidi: Found the answer and became the super great thinker Michael told him he was, when he was sent to the bad place because he couldn’t decide
    Elenor: she just wanted to be a good person, and she became the best person, she found closer in every way the fake Elenor was described

  • @YouCanCallMeAndrew
    @YouCanCallMeAndrew 3 года назад +125

    Even his desire to play a perfect game of Madden is a look into his awareness and insight. Jason's in heaven, he could've easily had the game in his first try, however, he chooses to work hard for his victory. He also understands his limits he could've played a real game as a Jaguar but he understands it wouldn't be real and therefore meaningless to him.

  • @russt2542
    @russt2542 2 года назад +154

    Can anyone recall the last time we actually see Jason call Janet to get him something?
    I thought it was the drink as Chidi is waking up, but I think he already had that on him.
    His only sin was thoughtless spontaneity, yet he doesn't call on her for frivolous wants anymore, and I don't think he has for a lot longer than we realized.
    The only time he summons her in the finale is to tell her he's leaving. Yet chooses to wait to see her, not only showing restraint and patience, but treating her as if she were human

  • @barbarahultman5450
    @barbarahultman5450 2 года назад +40

    I’ve always loved how they wrote Jason. For as “stupid” he supposedly is, his anecdotes consistently showed insight and relevance to the situation at hand and ALWAYS ended up helping the person to whom he was speaking. Just showed that you don’t have to be book smart to have true value.

  • @danielcioffi3620
    @danielcioffi3620 3 года назад +84

    I think that the way Jason was in the end he could have stayed with Janet in the good place without suffering, but he still didn't because he knew it was his time to go. He was at peace with that, even though he knew he would have to leave someone he loved behind... When Chidi tried to stay for Eleonor it kinda made him miserable. But for Janet, Jason could stay just fine even thought he was alone during his waiting.

  • @RollinsFN
    @RollinsFN 2 года назад +68

    Jason is the only character in the show that has emotional intelligence since the beginning, granted he wasn't a perfect monk since episode 1, but unlike literally everyone else he never seems to do anything out of anger, spite or pettiness, he accepts the hand he's dealt and he's extremely respectful about it(Never has any issues with his relationship with Janet or Tahani other than those created by circumstance and brain/time reboots, he always accepted the decisions others made and just decided to talk his feelings out with one of his friends, etc).
    Dude is legit all positivity and pure intentions, which Janet kinda says out loud during their "funerals"

  • @kaemonbonet4931
    @kaemonbonet4931 Год назад +19

    Jason calling the bad place , "an alien zoo or a prank show," isn't just realizing something is wrong, it's damn close to exactly what's going on. He just didn't assume that just because Micheal said that the good place was real he was telling the truth.

  • @iteststuff3854
    @iteststuff3854 Год назад +23

    The catch you had about him explaining his readiness to move on differently to Chidi and Eleanor was brilliant. I totally missed that. I just thought it was him being a bit silly but it was clearly deliberate, explaining the same thing twice. Jason definitely got wise.

  • @shubhankurkumar
    @shubhankurkumar 3 года назад +66

    Finally my favourite himbo is getting the recognition he deserves.

  • @WardNightstone
    @WardNightstone 3 года назад +157

    Jason wasn't intelligent but WAS wise

    • @lydias342
      @lydias342 3 года назад +9

      “Knowledge = knowing a tomato is a fruit
      Wisdom = knowing not to put it in a fruit salad”

    • @TheZombiesAreComing
      @TheZombiesAreComing 3 года назад +2

      @@lydias342
      Knowledge is the sum of everything you know.
      Wisdom is essentially how effectively you use your knowledge
      Wisdom relies on knowledge, but knowledge does not rely on wisdom.
      You can't be wise without having at least some intelligece, but you can be knowledgeable without using being wise.

  • @Pannadhammika
    @Pannadhammika 3 года назад +376

    Buddhist here. Jason is not a monk (much like Janet is not a girl or robot). The 3 practises of morality, meditation and wisdom are not restricted for monks, it's for everyone, and those who would properly learn and practise it can be deem as Buddhists.
    A monk is one who observes the precepts, of which there are 227 self training rules for a theravada monk. In order not to dilute the organization labeling, best not to call jason a monk of any sort. We Buddhists already use the term modern monk for monks living in the city, having facebook to help connect with disciples, gives talks online, have phds from university, or have phones to help coordinate their dhamma talks etc.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +124

      Hi! Thank you for taking the time to write that! I sincerely apologise if the video in any way diluted the labelling of the organisation (which, given the existence of the video and the article that it was based upon, is, of course, already quite egregiously done). It was more meant to connect The Good Place with one of the topics that it explores, and having done some research, I found Jason to embody some of the 'values' of Buddhism. But, of course, he has not observed the precepts themselves so, in a literal way, he could not be regarded as a monk.
      Also, thank you! I didn't know the term of 'modern monk' was already in use, that's pretty interesting!

    • @giralditah
      @giralditah 3 года назад +9

      If anything, from an ignorant persepctive, I still defend that exactly because those are the real Buddhist things to do, he, Jason, was always deemed to be, at less, reincarnated as a Buddhist monk...

    • @giralditah
      @giralditah 3 года назад +11

      @@ithinkicanwrite youbjustvopened other broad interpretations beyond the rigid scriptures... what better to make us aware and more interested in pursuing the deepest values in buddhism? LOVE your VIDEO!!!!!

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +5

      @@giralditah Thank you! I am glad that you enjoyed the video!

    • @glemwheatley9425
      @glemwheatley9425 3 года назад +18

      While it is definitely true that Jason is not a monk, this video helps to show that he at least was a potential monk and wasn’t afraid of teaching others his wisdom. I know very little about Buddhism but I think that Monks are teachers, of a sort, and Jason did teach, even unwittingly. The allegory is never perfect, otherwise it would be called an exact comparison. Perhaps, under the guidance and training of a true monk, Jason would have become one, but that was not his path.

  • @gcollins1992
    @gcollins1992 3 года назад +150

    Someone before me already gave great reasons why Jason ISN'T a monk, but I'm very glad that this creator drew attention to the dimensions of Jason that were more than just comic relief through misunderstanding and comic relief through impulsiveness. By the end of the show, Jason has shown himself to be loyal and caring, celebratory about the differences between people, (and not-a-people) as well as acutely aware of how others are feeling. I think, more important than whether Jason was a monk is the fact that he made everyone around him better and happier. I'm just glad other people can see and appreciate the good in him instead of just laughing at him.

  • @jessicav931
    @jessicav931 4 года назад +161

    Another point to have in account is that Jason was born in poverness, so his "monkness" have to compaginate with reality. Chidi and Tahani got into more confortable lives, so they didn't face the reality like Jason and Eleanor, that found out traditional moral rules (or the classic point system) don't work for the average person. We can see that Tahani actually tried to be a monk, but for that she went to an isolated place, where everyone meditate and else, is traditional but kind of a luxury retirement village; is not casual then that Tahani and Jason were put together in the start.
    BTW: Jason never resent Tahani for her rich girl problems or show off, he is not the kind who tell his own story to make her feel bad, and in part is because he accepted the hand he got and because he don't think other's suffering is "less". Also: It was Jason who talk to the judge about this friend of him that take care of his family and lack the time and energy to research if the food that he buy is ecologic or based in fair trade, helping the cause of making her go to earth.
    I did not connect a lot with Jason during the series, because I always felt the show was afraid to go real with him, so all his story happens in the background. Even his test with the judge feel weird (the "you never ask me if you could not play" thing), because i get that the point was to confront him with how impulsive he is. But that was not a real problem before, it was play for laughs and that's it, I don't recall that he got himself or the group into a series of horrible problems because that. He even keeped his mouth close in all the versions where Michael "believe" he was a real monk, Jason never went "what? Not dude" (that would make Michael fail from second 1 and leaving us with not series BTW). So it feel weird and even when his dead, for not planning ahead, was sad he never was a problem for the people in his live in earth. And this defect was never mentioned again.
    But this is why I like so much the analysis online and debats, it let you rediscover the stories and even fill gasp the creators fail to adresse well.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  4 года назад +32

      You made a very good point in mentioning Jason's test, I feel. That was incredibly inconsistent for the show, and I think that there's a reason for it. However, that never has anything to do with Jason (unlike Chidi's indecision repeatedly making others unhappy, as we have seen), instead it has something to do with The Judge. I am currently working on a video showing just how The Judge was, by eternal being standards, a morally evil/complicity evil character. For a being that can take someone's existence into account and KNOW they are going to The Bad Place, it's pointless to give tests to see where in The Bad Place they'll go. Unless, of course, you're an eternal being that's bored and looking for entertainment.

    • @sidhedanu
      @sidhedanu 3 года назад +10

      She was definitely just in it for the entertainment. She was OBSESSED with her shows. Loved it when they brought on Timothy Olyphant because she was on a Justified kick. Which, who can blame her there.

  • @AlexGoldhill
    @AlexGoldhill 3 года назад +53

    If Jason is a Monk he's a very Ikkyū type of Monk. Less concerned with the strictures and conventions of monastic life that can become an impediment to enlightenment.

  • @danielskovbjerg4562
    @danielskovbjerg4562 3 года назад +80

    Jason is the definition of a dnd character having low intelligence but high wisdom

  • @CHOCOLATIONZ
    @CHOCOLATIONZ 3 года назад +75

    He's not quite wise sometimes (like having some crazy plans that would not work). But one thing that Jason scores really high is the compassion. He doesn't want to hurt anyone directly (maybe destroying things sometimes with molotov cocktails). But when he sees his friend struggling, he always notice that and put their problem to his top priority list.

  • @Dastvi83
    @Dastvi83 3 года назад +25

    "I think we are might in an Alien zoo" kind of right because they are in a demon zoo.
    "or a prank show" also right
    I would say here its the case, that the writers showed what to come in a funny way.
    And thats in the 4th(?) episode. I have rewatched it a few times but never realized that.

  • @titliroy4713
    @titliroy4713 3 года назад +34

    Jason is like that kid who's so scrawny that you think you could take him in a fight, and even he thinks so to, but then you try to fight him, and suddenly he's the hulk, and he's pleasantly surprised, while you think you're weak, but in reality, Jason has been strong all along....

  • @mikurara4730
    @mikurara4730 3 года назад +46

    Team Cockroach Roles:
    Eleanor: Selfish, but overall good leader
    Chidi: Smart, nerdy, and indecisive love interest
    Jason: Emotionally supporting puppy
    Tahani: Wealthy showoff
    Michael: Demon grandpa nice dude, aka "D.G.N.D"
    Janet: Helpful, intelligent fan favorite
    Bonus:
    Mindy: Background, just done with the bullshit girl
    Judge: Funny and scary simp

  • @exoticcats6119
    @exoticcats6119 3 года назад +59

    Not necessarily important to Jason but Micheal gifted Tahani the first bow tie he wore in episode one. His bow ties also usually match someone’s outfit (at least season 4 when I started noticing this) and I thought it was cool.

  • @chukaceresany160
    @chukaceresany160 4 года назад +63

    When I saw the ending I thought that he, indeed, became into someone like a monk, but... after hearing your video essay, thinking that he was a monk all along is an idea I can get behind. Well done, sir!

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  4 года назад +2

      Thank you! Yeah, when I came up with the idea and began researching, I wasn't too sure of it, but soon enough, all the evidence just piled up and convinced me! I knew I had to make this video then!
      Glad you enjoyed it! :)

  • @sophiew557
    @sophiew557 4 года назад +100

    I didn’t think it was possible to love Jason even more than I did already - but you made it possible. Such a unique but well constructed perspective. Excited for the next one!

  • @lynnie3043
    @lynnie3043 Год назад +5

    He seemed already like such a monk character. Despite the chaos always surrounding him, he was vibing. He had such a peaceful air in the clouds vibe since day 1. Im glad he finally got to live how he wanted and then in trying to find a necklace for Janet, he achieved that nirvana. He finally was able to let go ❤

  • @Raysa1208
    @Raysa1208 4 года назад +81

    I loved this video so much!!!!! Jason is one of my favorites also because he is just so pure. Every single time he talked about his past, my heart sank because he was able to remain pure against all the odds live has thrown at him. I hope your channel grows huge because you are amazing.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  4 года назад +8

      Jason is such a precious boy! I completely agree, he has always been so pure, despite all the hardships he's been through, which makes him even more loveable!
      Thank you so much! I am glad you enjoyed the video!

    • @Raysa1208
      @Raysa1208 4 года назад +2

      @@ithinkicanwrite sending love from Brazil 🇧🇷 ❤️

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  4 года назад

      @@Raysa1208 Receiving and sending it from the UK! :)

    • @viennacupcake8700
      @viennacupcake8700 3 года назад

      2021

  • @tashokukisune
    @tashokukisune 3 года назад +14

    Jason was my favourite because you could tell immediately he had a pure heart, good intentions, and only wanted simple things. I think you explained it really well.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +1

      He was such a precious character, certainly! Thank you!

  • @arandomqueerfanpeep7655
    @arandomqueerfanpeep7655 3 года назад +16

    Jason has high wis; average int
    I know some people probably think he has low int, but I think he's pretty smart, just applies it to his interests instead of appearing traditionally smart.
    I really love him

  • @mrstooshnov
    @mrstooshnov 3 года назад +26

    Great analysis, and if Janet is knowledge of “everything” Jason achieved the Buddhist goal of becoming one with her! 🙏

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +2

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video!

    • @TheZombiesAreComing
      @TheZombiesAreComing 3 года назад +1

      Claimed knowledge, not exhibited knowledge. It's just a form a technobabble that hollywood is so fond of.
      You need to remember, the Judge claimed to know everything as well, but her trip to Earth proved that she knew nothing. It's all empty claims.

    • @trianglemoebius
      @trianglemoebius Год назад +3

      ​@@TheZombiesAreComing Judge Gen is all-knowing, but not all-understanding - her comprehension of topics she may understand in theory is limited by her lack of actual experience. She's like Chidi, in a way: able to grasp even the most complex things on the level of theory, but without the innate humanity to put it into any practical comprehension.
      In many ways, she's the opposite of Jason: he knows very little, but (by the end) understands everything.

  • @LunaWitcher
    @LunaWitcher 3 года назад +9

    This is the Jason appreciation that RUclips needs.

  • @BritneyGaga
    @BritneyGaga 4 года назад +127

    Very eye opening and introduced a new perspective i never really thought about while *watching the show! Great video!!!

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  4 года назад +6

      Thank you! I'm glad that the video helped introduce another perspective to consider! Jason is much wiser than the show makes him seem! :)

    • @neo8244
      @neo8244 3 года назад

      Facts

    • @Monterey96
      @Monterey96 3 года назад

      Thats funny, when I was writing Romeo and Juliet I wasnt gonna kill Romeo off until this Bill Shakespeare guy gave me the idea.
      Followed my nose to this thread, smell of bullshit got to me from a few videos over.

    • @BritneyGaga
      @BritneyGaga 3 года назад +2

      @@Monterey96 I meant to type watching but it got autocorrected sorry it got your panties in a bunch. I thought people with enough common sense like you would connect the dots but I guess not everyone is a genius😁

  • @mythadology
    @mythadology 3 года назад +10

    Jason exhibits "Shoshin" or what the zen Buddhists call the learners mind. He is open the the myriad possibilities of the universe, his innocent nature allows him to see paths where the wise and learned only see failure.

  • @beast_priest
    @beast_priest 3 года назад +6

    Jason's character successfully shows why knowledge and wisdom are two different things.

  • @JayVBear45
    @JayVBear45 3 года назад +8

    His story arc is close to that of Siddhartha in the Herman Hesse novel. Siddhartha first mastered the path of Brahman or moral path, then followed the path of asceticism where he learned the essential skills of breathing/fasting/waiting, being able to be present or concentration and finally freedom from suffering through enlightenment through dharma.

  • @williamklemp3764
    @williamklemp3764 Год назад +4

    Im so glad to see my boy Jason getting the love he deserves. Hes my favorite character and also my favorite character arc. His personality doesnt change, his viewpoint does. He's an excellent portrayal of "Growth without Change"

  • @BBGirl555
    @BBGirl555 3 года назад +6

    Kind, Wise and comfble in his own skin. Jason the pure of heart.

  • @Ebathora
    @Ebathora 3 года назад +10

    My favorite TV himbo ❤️

  • @mykheee6950
    @mykheee6950 10 месяцев назад +2

    I also liked the detail wherein Jason always callsout Janet whenever he needs her but when Jason forgot the necklace and is leftout on the entrance of the gate, he instead waited for Janet to comeback instead of calling her.

  • @marvingayefan1703
    @marvingayefan1703 3 года назад +9

    I believe that Jason became a monk in the finale. But more than this, I believe that all four major characters became who they were always meant to be, and who they were introduced as in the first episode. Eleanor became a defender of the hopeless by rescuing Michael and Mindy from their dead ends. Chidi became the wise instructor who helped millions of people learn ethics in a way he never succeeded in during his life. And Tahani became a truly benevolent person by becoming an architect. It took the viewer longer to realize that Chidi and Tahani weren't living up to their potential than we did for Eleanor and Jason, but all four achieved their soul's true purpose in the end.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +1

      This is very well put, and echoes some other thoughts in the comments. Thank you for this! :)

  • @henryhammond7393
    @henryhammond7393 10 месяцев назад +1

    His unfailing devotion and adoration of an underdog team and quarterback tells you a lot about who he is.

  • @here5254
    @here5254 Год назад +2

    I learned a lot more than I was prepared for. The most I can do is give a like and subscribe for all your videos. Thank you

  • @boxofbugs2292
    @boxofbugs2292 4 года назад +50

    First of all, EEEEE now this is the kind of content I can get behind
    Second of all, everyone BETTER SHARE THIS VIDEO cause idk what I'll do if we can't hit the like goal

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  4 года назад +2

      Thank you so much! I KNEW you were going to love this video, so I delayed it a day to make it perfect just for you! :)
      Yes, let's hit that LIKE GOAL! We can do this!

    • @hineawe
      @hineawe 4 года назад +1

      Yeah

  • @SaturdayParker
    @SaturdayParker 3 года назад +5

    This was incredible. I always identifying with either Jason or Chidi. But I learned a lot about Buddhism and myself in this video so I'm really grateful to for you making it. 🥰

  • @LambentLark
    @LambentLark 3 года назад +7

    Jason and Janet were my favourite characters. I don't know if Jason was a monk but he was the purest among them. He always thought of others and would never have done something that would intentionally hurt someone. D'Arcy Beth Carden nailed the role of Janet. The episode that she played everybody?!! She's a freaking legend!

  • @Unbreakable1986
    @Unbreakable1986 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very well argued and accepted, you've taken what I'd already thought and elevated it immensely, thank you

  • @tf9241
    @tf9241 Год назад +1

    I am so glad I saw this in my recommendations. This is an excellent analysis

  • @ArchieGoodwin71
    @ArchieGoodwin71 3 года назад +5

    This is why I can loved his character for four years. The funny dumb guy gets stale after a while. But while his being a step behind is used for comedy, his loyalty, compassion, and love are also used throughout the show.
    He is a simple character, but not a one dimensional one.
    A lot of credit to the writers and to Manny Jacinto for a complicated job presenting a "simple"(pure?) character.

  • @darkorion69
    @darkorion69 Год назад +1

    Than you. I have made these arguments with other fans of the show. You made the talking points much better than I was able. Kudos!

  • @VeracityLH
    @VeracityLH 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for this. After too much watching American politics, this was a refreshing change. Now I'll be able to sleep peacefully tonight. Cheers.

  • @UrFaveMF
    @UrFaveMF Год назад +1

    Thank you for making this video. I knew from the show that there was more to Jason than being the comic relief and that he was always a good and sweet person/ character, and I appreciate the breakdown. The characters made this show so great, and Jason was my favorite. 💖😊🙏

  • @scottiecorley4954
    @scottiecorley4954 Год назад +1

    I never thought about his Path until watching your video. Thanks for enlightening me, dude.

  • @volyb101
    @volyb101 Год назад +1

    Great analysis! You pointed out some things I missed about Jason's journey.

  • @hyshade5132
    @hyshade5132 3 года назад +6

    This was a really amazing series, I was sorry when it was finally over. And, it only gave me like 4 existential crises too.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад

      Those are rookie numbers, we need to bump them way up, right?

  • @freakyfridaylover-xk9xe
    @freakyfridaylover-xk9xe 3 года назад +1

    bestie you are so right about this. amazing video

  • @coffeewithcartoons
    @coffeewithcartoons 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for making this, really I found much more meaning in this tv analysis video than I expected, just wow.

  • @firstname4337
    @firstname4337 2 года назад +1

    I think this is one of the best videos i have ever seen on youtube

  • @user-A254
    @user-A254 3 года назад +2

    wow this was really interesting to watch, thank you for making this!

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +1

      I am glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching!

  • @coventinasterling
    @coventinasterling 3 года назад +8

    I agree! 100% a monk the whole time. Much like a drunk, malatov-throwing Winnie the Pooh from Florida.

  • @mmluon
    @mmluon 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for these videos. This is ine of my all- time favorite shows and your perspective on these characters is excellent.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад

      Thank you for the comment! I am glad you enjoyed these videos!

  • @sandrosacco2281
    @sandrosacco2281 4 года назад +10

    Jason Is the only reason i've watched the entire serie.

    • @MrNemitri
      @MrNemitri 3 года назад

      sadly for me was the opposite, it literally hurt to see him in each and every scene, was fun at first, but got old really fast.

  • @douglaspackard3515
    @douglaspackard3515 3 года назад +2

    Great video. You caught a lot more than I did, the only thing I'd add is that Jason's learning to control his impulses was a major part of his development, and I think that fits in with the Buddhist practices you outlined as well.

  • @thatfatginger
    @thatfatginger 3 года назад +6

    I cannot express how much I appreciate this video, Jason is my favorite character and I've always hated how he's seen as just comic relief, he's so much more:')

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +2

      He definitely is so much more than that. Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @SoVidushi
    @SoVidushi Год назад +1

    Great analysis! He's my most loved character

  • @Uncle-奧徳彪
    @Uncle-奧徳彪 4 года назад +8

    jason's first line was in episode 2 where he says:"i've been waiting for you..."

    • @dlmbs
      @dlmbs 3 года назад

      Episode 3

    • @Uncle-奧徳彪
      @Uncle-奧徳彪 3 года назад

      @@dlmbs it’s actually at episode 2 near the end of the episode

    • @dlmbs
      @dlmbs 3 года назад

      @@Uncle-奧徳彪 uhm no. what happened at the end of episode 2 is that someone slipped a note at Eleanor’s door saying “You don’t belong here.”

  • @stardusthaven
    @stardusthaven 3 года назад +1

    Great video, I loved Jason and his pureness in the show. 😊

  • @kimm7903
    @kimm7903 3 года назад +1

    Your vid gave a way better explanation but I was thinking the same when I watched !

  • @lribeiro594
    @lribeiro594 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this wonderful video!

  • @adelaideharper9201
    @adelaideharper9201 3 года назад +2

    I noticed how Monk-like Jason was right away but I never put it together this well. Thank you so much for this video!

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад

      I am glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching!

  • @sillynapalm
    @sillynapalm 3 года назад +5

    I loved the video. Beautifully written and well cut together. I’ve also read some of your responses to other comments and I have to say that it’s really refreshing to see someone be accepting of constructive criticism. I hope your channel keeps growing and that you keep getting recognition for your work.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! I am glad that you enjoyed the video!
      Of course, I (hope I) will always be receptive to constructive criticism. I am just trying to get better as I go along, in storytelling, editing, writing, etc, so I really enjoy any and all constructive criticism that I can get!

  • @esmeralda4297
    @esmeralda4297 Год назад +1

    This was insightfull!!

  • @RabbitTeaPot
    @RabbitTeaPot 3 года назад +2

    He was always my favourite character but this has made me look at him with fresh eyes. Brilliant video essay 💜

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @andrewcasey7023
    @andrewcasey7023 Год назад +1

    Well done!

  • @ryancasey919
    @ryancasey919 Год назад +2

    This is a woefully under rated channel! AMAZING essay!

  • @thatjeff7550
    @thatjeff7550 Год назад +1

    Well argued video. I've always loved the Jason character and after watching this vid, I guess I need to go back and actually finish watching the show.

  • @ninreck5121
    @ninreck5121 3 года назад +1

    Woa I love this idea, makes sense!!

  • @jimgolab536
    @jimgolab536 3 года назад +1

    Really good insights. Thanks for making this.

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад

      Thank you for the kind words! I am glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @lelpato3327
    @lelpato3327 3 года назад +1

    delicious. finally, appreciation and recognition for what an emotional rock and loyal friend jason was.

  • @SuperTmarley
    @SuperTmarley 3 года назад +1

    Great video! Very insightful on the modern monk analysis

    • @ithinkicanwrite
      @ithinkicanwrite  3 года назад +1

      Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @yili7322
    @yili7322 3 года назад +3

    Holy fork you just made it clear and correct! I never thought this before. Thank you!

  • @lyrajaded
    @lyrajaded Год назад +1

    Wonderful video! I absolutely adore Jason! I have a special place in my heart for characters who appear dumb, but intelligence comes in many different forms.
    Jason’s closing arc was always to become a modern monk, and it’s incredibly clever of the writers to be so transparent up front