The crazy thing about most running events is that even compared to other sports, it's such a sport of pure physicality. Obviously there's strategy, especially in the biggest races-but at the end of the day, physicality is the limiting factor. I feel like why doping is such an issue within sprints and distance is running is precisely because of this: In a sport like tennis, there are 'soft skills'-you ability to control a point, how consistent and dangerous you are with groundstrokes, etc. Being super doped up doesn't necessarily improve these aspects because they're not directly tied to physicality; for example, most 7ft players who can serve ridiculously fast are nowhere near the top of the (singles) rankings, because their physical height advantage often comes at the cost of these soft skills. On the other hand, running competitively is almost directly tied to physicality. Obviously there's the distinction to be made between aerobic and anaerobic fitness. But at the end of the day, you will run as fast as your body will take you. That's why doping is so much more prominent (or at least impactful), for runners than in other sports. This is not specifically tied to the Asinga case; just an observation I made about the running world.
I think the word you're looking for is genetics lol. At the end of the day, your potential is limited in a sport as straightforward as track and field. I agree with where you're coming from in tennis though. I play(ed) competitively and it is ultimately about strategy and matchups. Champions have had a variety of builds and playstyles, but you're also actively "battling" against each other to negate the other. (Kind of like boxing). Once you meet your physical ceiling in track, that's it. Nothing and nobody outside yourself can adjust that. It's basically a competitive showcase of straightforward physical limits whether you run or throw.
This is one of the most respectful (idk is that the word?) videos ive seen regarding athletics and doping. You actually choose to stay away from the "athlete is intentionally malicious in their doping" narrative that most outlets dive in headfirst in how to explain doping cases, but you actually go into the wider dynamics behind why some athletes are incentivized, convinced or cornered into cheating, from coaches, scholarships and sponsorships, to how they are preyed upon by lawyers or other groups of people. This is a view that is SORELY lacking from the absolute outrage-bait takes most people do, and direct it to structures & systems behind the competitive scene. amazing job :--)
My first thought is are the parents not possibly the ones to have encouraged it, considering they were both high level runners too. It’d make sense when you look at it through the lens of parents wanting to have a prodigy son excel beyond even what they could accomplish. Just food for thought.
You’re right bro. EVERYBODY’S on the sauce! The best runners have the best chemists and the best connections. Only the up and comers and the second tier athletes get caught. The biggest names have the best connections, that’s why they never get caught.
As someone who has worked with Issam since he was in 8th grade, it's heartbreaking to see his future affected in this way. He was always a phenom with a crazy work ethic. Kills me that he's been painted in this light and hopeful he'll be able to overcome this adversity in his journey.
Ban shouldn’t have been as bad, they could’ve given him a 4 year ban from international competition or something like that where he could compete in college but go no further
@@younghegelian1because its a first offense, hes a kid, it most likely wasn’t even his idea, runnerboi had a really good point when explaining his thoughts on the whole situation
@@kuebiko_ 4 years is that you get for a first offense. repeated offenses get you a longer, if not life time ban. he is and was an adult, and has to be treated as such. he is of course responsible for what he puts in his own body. why would it matter whose idea it was? i don't see any real reason and i don't know of any precedent to giving him less than a full sentance. personally, i think he should be banned for life. i don't see any reason to condone doping in any capacity, and participation in competition is not a right, but a priviledge that in my opinion should not be granted to proven cheaters.
There should be some leeway for youth: there are countless examples of young athletes duped or manipulated by their entourage. That said, they should own up.
Great research on this topic, im glad you debunked soo many fo the rubbish thats on the internet about this case. Really is refreshing to see someone critically tackle a case like this with an objective lense. Hopefully more people watch this and educate themselves. You earned a sub🎉
@@elijahebbert6884We’re still waiting on more data from Knighton’s case. Plus WADA is going to do an additional investigation. If he is proven guilty, he will have any records stripped and be banned
My thing is why is he getting his college career clipped when it’s all but implied that pretty much the entire sport of track and field either blood dopes or uses PEDs and his story is not much different then Knighton’s. The same Knighton who’s getting ready to compete in a few weeks.
Completely different situation where it was proven beyond the balance of probabilities that he had a negligible amount in his system and the meat from the restaurant was tested and found to be contaminated as well. Key difference in Asinga's case was the gummies from the same lot had vastly different results, which would be out of the norm.
This year there was an American TV show about the "main character energy" guy, hyping him up, giving him all the attention. They needed him to win in Paris. Considering the end part of this video and how absurd the situation with Knighton is according to the author himself, I would absolutely not be surprised that some athletes are targets of "doping attacks". Natasha Hastings once said: "you don't ever even leave a bottle of water unattended". There is zero transparency in how these doping cases are handled, so it makes it impossible to believe anything.
He did look more swollen than the last race he was in...hmmm. I love track and field but this is all getting to be too much for me. These people are taking advantage of children, and it disgusts me.
Zero tolerance for cheaters, not matter the age or whatnot. As a deterrent. We need to protect clean athletes that see their own (and their family, as you mentioned) opportunities, achievements, sponsorship, etc. taken from cheaters. Because dopers might get punished, yet honest athletes never get compensated for their lost opportunities. Those dirty lawyers should use their shady tactics to pursue exorbitant financial compensations from the Armstrongs of the sports (still wealthy and worldwide famous) to the honest (and forgotten) athletes that finished behind them.
tbh never understood why people were clapping like seals when issam beat tebogos time as tebogo ran 9.91 while slowing down like 20 meters(looking to the right i think) which aint far off from 9.89
@@shbmsrto i mean he was absolved of wrongdoing so it's not deemed guilty of any crime. had he been i'm sure he would have recieved the same sentance. but yes, i think it's highly unlikely that it in his case is anything other than intentional doping and i think the usada verdict and subsequent statements seem very sketchy.
@@crabb9966 i agree, i think erriyon should be banned too. if anything i am biased against him. but he is as of now deemed innocent, so it does not really make sense to discuss punishment in his case.
Hairline isn’t a good indicator I know people who were losing their hairline at 15 and others who had a strong head of hair at 70 If you’re gonna lose it you’re gonna lose it
its not like hes going to prison or anything. he can do whatever else he wants in life, just not compete. if you are caught break the rules you get suspended, thats the rules.
Not entirely relevant but does anyone else hate when an athlete lives in 1 country and represents another? Like Naomi Osaka. She represents Japan but barely even speaks Japanese and lives in California. If you don't even love a country enough to live in it you shouldn't be representing it.
@@Notverysupercoach Exactly, Your country sucks so bad it couldn't even give you a good chance at success. If I was born in bum-fuck nowhere with on one to aid me in my dreams and another country took me in and gave me everything I needed to succeed you'd better believe my loyalty would be with the latter.
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The crazy thing about most running events is that even compared to other sports, it's such a sport of pure physicality. Obviously there's strategy, especially in the biggest races-but at the end of the day, physicality is the limiting factor. I feel like why doping is such an issue within sprints and distance is running is precisely because of this: In a sport like tennis, there are 'soft skills'-you ability to control a point, how consistent and dangerous you are with groundstrokes, etc. Being super doped up doesn't necessarily improve these aspects because they're not directly tied to physicality; for example, most 7ft players who can serve ridiculously fast are nowhere near the top of the (singles) rankings, because their physical height advantage often comes at the cost of these soft skills.
On the other hand, running competitively is almost directly tied to physicality. Obviously there's the distinction to be made between aerobic and anaerobic fitness. But at the end of the day, you will run as fast as your body will take you. That's why doping is so much more prominent (or at least impactful), for runners than in other sports.
This is not specifically tied to the Asinga case; just an observation I made about the running world.
Wow! Very good point. Didn’t think about it that way.
100% yep
great insight my man
Well duhh? Other sports like football and tennis are games, track is a race. Obviously theres less strategy
I think the word you're looking for is genetics lol. At the end of the day, your potential is limited in a sport as straightforward as track and field. I agree with where you're coming from in tennis though. I play(ed) competitively and it is ultimately about strategy and matchups. Champions have had a variety of builds and playstyles, but you're also actively "battling" against each other to negate the other. (Kind of like boxing). Once you meet your physical ceiling in track, that's it. Nothing and nobody outside yourself can adjust that. It's basically a competitive showcase of straightforward physical limits whether you run or throw.
This is one of the most respectful (idk is that the word?) videos ive seen regarding athletics and doping.
You actually choose to stay away from the "athlete is intentionally malicious in their doping" narrative that most outlets dive in headfirst in how to explain doping cases, but you actually go into the wider dynamics behind why some athletes are incentivized, convinced or cornered into cheating, from coaches, scholarships and sponsorships, to how they are preyed upon by lawyers or other groups of people.
This is a view that is SORELY lacking from the absolute outrage-bait takes most people do, and direct it to structures & systems behind the competitive scene. amazing job :--)
@Mclarenboy100 I appreciate this comment greatly, thank you.
I agree!
Jones's ex-husband and ex-boyfriend both ratted her out; her conscience never came into play.
My first thought is are the parents not possibly the ones to have encouraged it, considering they were both high level runners too. It’d make sense when you look at it through the lens of parents wanting to have a prodigy son excel beyond even what they could accomplish. Just food for thought.
"Technically Erriyon Knighton had run much faster" ah yes the other 200m young phenom, who tested positive of damn TREN of all things
Another RunnerBoi video! Great day
Gw1516 is an amazing drug, it's not like steroids but for a track athlete it's the next best thing, imagine not getting tired at all while running.
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Where do you get it?
@@Mdksupreme1 this guy's a cop
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Your actually cranking o it these uploads now
You’re right bro. EVERYBODY’S on the sauce! The best runners have the best chemists and the best connections. Only the up and comers and the second tier athletes get caught. The biggest names have the best connections, that’s why they never get caught.
My Cheerios were tainted with Dianabol, once (I shit you NOT), causing me to flunk a drug test before a tiddler winks competition.
Crazy
Tiddler winks doesn't sound like a sport that would need drug testing
@@limehawk4989 it's a joke, numb nuts.
As someone who has worked with Issam since he was in 8th grade, it's heartbreaking to see his future affected in this way. He was always a phenom with a crazy work ethic. Kills me that he's been painted in this light and hopeful he'll be able to overcome this adversity in his journey.
Ban shouldn’t have been as bad, they could’ve given him a 4 year ban from international competition or something like that where he could compete in college but go no further
Right, especially after they give Knighton a slap on the wrist for basically the thing
why though? because you like him? if you get busted you get banned, that's the rules
@@younghegelian1because its a first offense, hes a kid, it most likely wasn’t even his idea, runnerboi had a really good point when explaining his thoughts on the whole situation
@@kuebiko_ 4 years is that you get for a first offense. repeated offenses get you a longer, if not life time ban. he is and was an adult, and has to be treated as such. he is of course responsible for what he puts in his own body. why would it matter whose idea it was? i don't see any real reason and i don't know of any precedent to giving him less than a full sentance. personally, i think he should be banned for life. i don't see any reason to condone doping in any capacity, and participation in competition is not a right, but a priviledge that in my opinion should not be granted to proven cheaters.
There should be some leeway for youth: there are countless examples of young athletes duped or manipulated by their entourage.
That said, they should own up.
Great research on this topic, im glad you debunked soo many fo the rubbish thats on the internet about this case. Really is refreshing to see someone critically tackle a case like this with an objective lense. Hopefully more people watch this and educate themselves. You earned a sub🎉
Great video! This is the type of production value we need in Track & Field. Shout out to you for raising the bar.
Guy is suspiciously fast, then fails a drug test. Why does anyone believe his gummy BS?
They desperately want to ride his meat.
Why does Knighton walk free for basically the same thing?
Ikr?@@elijahebbert6884
Just remember that he isn't American. If he was, he would've been easily cleared like Knighton, noah lyles, etc.
@@elijahebbert6884We’re still waiting on more data from Knighton’s case. Plus WADA is going to do an additional investigation. If he is proven guilty, he will have any records stripped and be banned
My thing is why is he getting his college career clipped when it’s all but implied that pretty much the entire sport of track and field either blood dopes or uses PEDs and his story is not much different then Knighton’s. The same Knighton who’s getting ready to compete in a few weeks.
Issam would have got off if he was going to run for the U.S but he wasn't, him smoking Noah like that didn't help and got all eyes on him
Dont cheat and you wont have to worry 😂🤡
@@BalkanManicwe don’t know the whole situation why I jumping into conclusions unc 🤣
best track video i’ve seen in a while
since your last video
Weird how erriyon knighton is allowed to compete
Completely different situation where it was proven beyond the balance of probabilities that he had a negligible amount in his system and the meat from the restaurant was tested and found to be contaminated as well. Key difference in Asinga's case was the gummies from the same lot had vastly different results, which would be out of the norm.
@@amimi92 mental gymnastics eriyon is being protected
@@EzeBall1710 Yall gotta let these tinfoil conspiracy theories go and look at this situation from a logical standpoint
This year there was an American TV show about the "main character energy" guy, hyping him up, giving him all the attention. They needed him to win in Paris. Considering the end part of this video and how absurd the situation with Knighton is according to the author himself, I would absolutely not be surprised that some athletes are targets of "doping attacks". Natasha Hastings once said: "you don't ever even leave a bottle of water unattended". There is zero transparency in how these doping cases are handled, so it makes it impossible to believe anything.
Insane video🔥🔥🔥
How come everyone using the contamination excuse had a susbstance that made them better? It's never something that wouldn't help their performance
They don't care about losers.😊
Substances that do not aid performance are not on the banned list.
@@Howard-nm5sv What about THC?
This channel is the Eein Brown antidote
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 Yeah idk about that one man lmfao
@@RunnerBoi Me 100k a day is maybe worse. Definitely more racest
Didn’t knighton run faster than the listed Hs national record?
My bad you address it in video lol
He did look more swollen than the last race he was in...hmmm. I love track and field but this is all getting to be too much for me. These people are taking advantage of children, and it disgusts me.
@@Robert_McGarry_Poems huh
@@jordanpelaez8532he’s referring to how coaches dope up their athletes, so the athletes can make more money for them lol
@@Robert_McGarry_Poems wtf are you talking about
It's a shame that adults looking for a payout exploited this young man with such potential and led him to their collective downfall.
Unfortunate that whether or not he took a substance, Issam likely didn't decide if he took it or not
Zero tolerance for cheaters, not matter the age or whatnot. As a deterrent. We need to protect clean athletes that see their own (and their family, as you mentioned) opportunities, achievements, sponsorship, etc. taken from cheaters. Because dopers might get punished, yet honest athletes never get compensated for their lost opportunities. Those dirty lawyers should use their shady tactics to pursue exorbitant financial compensations from the Armstrongs of the sports (still wealthy and worldwide famous) to the honest (and forgotten) athletes that finished behind them.
everybody is doping he is just not protected as he isn't an American athlete
100% agreed
Will he run in the enhanced olympics next year?
They never think they would one day get caught....i wonder why?
That's very extreme. Excessive
The doping agency has to much power after they take a simple prove the chain of custody and it was never left unattended
that would make it impossible to prove anything ever. he obviously did it.
nice vid
Yet Knighton walks free, they claim he likely are tainted meat 😂laughable
If he keeps practicing, he should be even better when he comes back
There is no substitute to competition. He will not develop without actual competition.
strange that all these top level athletes keep ending up running for MVA.... they def recruit and FHSAA doesn't even look at it
@30:29 /consciousness/conscience/
Technically he could still run in college, it would just be way later and he will be a 22 year old freshman.
But when knighton uses drugs he just gets a slap on the wrist
tbh never understood why people were clapping like seals when issam beat tebogos time as tebogo ran 9.91 while slowing down like 20 meters(looking to the right i think) which aint far off from 9.89
Tebogo is more of a 400 guy anyways
Give people a 1 strike policy as warning
I agree the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
why not? looks pretty clear cut to me
@@younghegelian1like erriyon knighton?
@@shbmsrto i mean he was absolved of wrongdoing so it's not deemed guilty of any crime. had he been i'm sure he would have recieved the same sentance. but yes, i think it's highly unlikely that it in his case is anything other than intentional doping and i think the usada verdict and subsequent statements seem very sketchy.
@@younghegelian1 its basically the exact same case. Y0u must be a bit biased
@@crabb9966 i agree, i think erriyon should be banned too. if anything i am biased against him. but he is as of now deemed innocent, so it does not really make sense to discuss punishment in his case.
don't need to go this deep on gummies. guy cheated
So did knighting but they gave him a slap on the wrist
No. They gave him a free pass.
World record progression of pole vault?
Trap Lore Ross of Track and Field
good old "PEDs got in my gummies!" absolute joke with these dope heads....
Who has the ability to test everything they put in your body they don’t make that kind of money
Damn, what a freak. If this guy would have laid off the dope, he'd been the best ever
Everyone else is on it he just not protected
@@EzeBall1710 Yeah, that's true. Someone up high must not like this kid.
early gang early gang
W vid
He could have gotten away with it if he just chose to run for USA
That would explain erriyon hairline
I BEEN saying this bro. Dude's receeding FAST
You think so 😮@guccidan2026
Did you see how big he got in a year 😭😭😭
Hairline isn’t a good indicator I know people who were losing their hairline at 15 and others who had a strong head of hair at 70
If you’re gonna lose it you’re gonna lose it
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Losing hair at 15 is so tragic. Literally a death sentence for men
Isam Bazinga
Very interesting and disappointing.
4 years is fair, hope he stops cheating
Like with knighton?
@@shbmsrto🦮👨🏿🦯 gonna pretend what he did didnt happen
its not like hes going to prison or anything. he can do whatever else he wants in life, just not compete. if you are caught break the rules you get suspended, thats the rules.
Not entirely relevant but does anyone else hate when an athlete lives in 1 country and represents another? Like Naomi Osaka. She represents Japan but barely even speaks Japanese and lives in California. If you don't even love a country enough to live in it you shouldn't be representing it.
That would be very unfair to athletes from countries without the same standards of coaching training and facilities.
@@Notverysupercoach Exactly, Your country sucks so bad it couldn't even give you a good chance at success. If I was born in bum-fuck nowhere with on one to aid me in my dreams and another country took me in and gave me everything I needed to succeed you'd better believe my loyalty would be with the latter.
W video