Yup, those 2 mods are the trickiest to set up, first time I tried donuts I got dead lobbies, then 2 raids of pmc overload, it never seems to be the in-between I'm looking for.
@@no1baggiefan Im constantly messing with mine trying to make presets for maps. JUST got out of a Customs raid. There were 15 scavs that spawned all at once at dorms. Blew my mind. lol
Right? Its not like the tool tips in the mod menus arent helpful (its far more than you get with most mods, the devs made the effort), but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Thankfully we now have StarVox.
I made the switch yesterday to SPT after an absence on live of roughly a year. I’ve got 6 mods running and performance is on par with live if not a little better. On Donuts specifically, I’ve selected PMCs to start with more scavs. Valens kit progression appears to be working. I’m having a great time! It’s great to be back.
Playing SPT without mods is terrible. The devs are very stubborn, amateurish and made some insane compromises. You will see almost no raiders on Reserve and almost no Rogues on Lighthouse in vanilla SPT.
appreciate the video vox!, my performance was terrible on reserve but after following some tips on this video i gained around 30 frames back. Steller work and clear explanations are always welcomed thanks.
I keep having the issue with all the action happening on the otherside of map and then encounter very few face to face (ground zeros to be specific) Thanks for these video my guy. It's made the transition from live to spt so much easier)
You're welcome! Ground Zero is a wild map, it seems designed to provoke instant action. In this case, reducing bot aggression with SAIN would be a good move.
I really appreciate these videos. They have helped me really fine tune my experience to what I am looking for. Thank you for all of the wonderful content!
I didnt tweak Donuts because the video I watched was of an older version. The raid I was in was a constant swarm of PMC's and Scavs and was off the wall lol. Thank you for this video
bro I mean it you are way more important teaching us about mods and specially about how to run it for the sake of "performance" than a banker.. Thank you so mush
Which bot debug did he use? The one by DrakiaXYZ? I'd like to have that overlay on at all times. Maybe not location, but at least how many are on. I suspect something funky is going on in my game. Nvm. It was. How do you toggle that tiny interface on the top right?
Nother great vid 👍 I’m curious if load order is something important to worry about and do you have trouble with getting SVM and Realism, and SWAG for that matter, working together?
Thank you! Fortunately, load order doesn't usually come into play unless a mod specifically requires a certain position in the order. Also, the major mods have all be designed to adjust to one another when used together, like SAIN and the Realism mod for example. Furthermore, mod descriptions will state whether or not special actions need taken for mods with compatibility issues.
@@thestarvox ah that is hella convenient. Coming from Fallout modding that’s pretty much a godsend having it tell you about compatibility issues. I had noticed that once with SVM and another mod but didn’t know if that was a one off or something. Awesome thank you much
Which version of CWX is that? The only one I can find is said only to be working with SPT 3.7.0? Wanted to check if my bot settings were done correctly Edit: Scratch that. The tool in question is called "BOTMONITOR (CWX'S DEBUGGING TOOL) 2.3.0" by nooky! =)
Dear StarVox, i need some help with the spawn. So i use this mod and somehow no one spawning. Before i install the mod i had a problem where PMC and Scav only spawn at 10Minutes mark, most of the time boss spawn first then few minutes its PMC or Scav (rarely) its kinda frustrating to wait 10 minutes to just run into an AI
Be sure you have all the required mods and be sure they're updated. If not just download the newest versions and drop them in like normal and when it asks hit replace all files
Sounds like something is wrong with the mod installation. Be sure to install any dependencies that mod's need, like Big Brain and Waypoints. Also be sure that all versions are compatible for your game.
Really gotta try this to better my performance. I'm using a RTX 3060 12GB with an i5 10600k and I'm getting 30-40 FPS using Donuts with no edits. I'm gonna try to tweak it as you show in the video in a bit, see if I get better results.
Ok. Played some raids on Reserve, medium graphics with some changes on SAIN and the settings shown in the video for Quiet Raids for Donuts. I got around 50-60 FPS mostly. I feel like I encountered a lot more bots than I should have. I was constantly fighting and also were the bots. When a lot of stuff was going on or when bots were spawning ( I suppose ) I got around 35-40 FPS. It was a lot better than before though, the frame drops were not very noticeable and the gameplay was mostly smooth. Thanks for the video and the amazing content StarVox!
You're welcome! Yeah, on further investigation of Reserve, I see that the spawn sites and rates are super numerous and high - designed for lots of activity. Those rates could be reduced in the Donuts config file's Reserve map parameters and the spawn sites modified, but I think it can remain as-is for now. It's just a dangerous place! Maybe I'll make another video about making the more intensive maps perform better.
@@thestarvox yeah that's what it seems. I played Ground Zero and Labs too, I had around 80 to 90 fps on both of them, I dunno much about the game but I really like Reserve
Ever since installing swag+donuts, it seems as though my sain settings are not taking effect. My spawn ratios are much better now, but bots will straight up shoot me through bushes and see me in completely unrealistic ways as opposed to how it worked previously with just sain... debugging is exhausting
i recently found your channel and love it. i havent played SPT since (and i had to check) Feb 2021. a lot has changed.... i downloaded the game and have been trying tto install the SPT-AKI but it keeps directing me to install 3.8.3. is there a way to install 3.8.0 or 3.8.1 as most of the mods in interested in are compatible for those version ? when i download the installer and run it, it shows 3.8.3 with no apparant option to change it to a preferred earlier version. apologies for being blind.
Thanks for the awesome and useful content! I’ve got a few questions because I notice that I feel less incentivised to use suppressors since there are no real players in SPT. Do bots behave differently or react whenever you shoot a suppressed weapon instead of unsuppressed, like do they pinpoint your location anyway? Do pmc bots follow the firing noise you make on the map(if they have a quest on pmc kills for example)? In general does it make sense to use suppressed weapons vs bots?
So, I actually don't know for sure in every case, but they are very practical with the Realism Mod, as they reduce deafening. Whether or not it reduces attention from bots, I can't say. I frequently use suppressors and still get found, so it seems pretty realistic. Definitely want to know for sure and I would be interested in arranging some tests for the channel. In general, I just like suppressors in the game and how they function for firearms - some of them look great and require a little extra building; all good things for immersion.
@@thestarvox It feels like bots will sometimes come running when I fire. Other times, they are completely deaf. I've often wondered if sneaking around a map is useful at all or if I can just stomp around and make all the noise I want, because bots seem oblivious to noise I make in general. Do bots "hear" me walking?
I use SAIN and SWAG+, but I get the impression that the bots, especially the PMCs, don't adopt the SAIN difficulty settings, they become predictable and a bit boring. Am I missing something in the SWAG+DONUTS settings?
this is a long shot but for some reason i don't have the PMC and SCAV raid preset selection option. after Other bot type spawn difficulty it goes straight to show random scenario selection. can't figure out why
Whats the mod (and setting) for the 45 degree reddot vehind your scope? I can only seit up i front of the normal scope. Thanks in advance! Great Video btw
Thanks for the video, would be nice to know what settings you typically use though. Theres a lot of customization and it would be nice to know what works for you.
LOVE your videos. So helpful. Quesion... what is that mod you're using to peek a door or place a charge on it? I'm using Open Sesame, but it doesn't have some of the options I'm seeing on your vid.
Hi...can you make a detailed video about how to use SAIN..when using SAIN I get this message on top..selected preset version:2.2.1 but current preset version is 2.2.0 default bot config values maybe set incorrectly due to updates to SAIN
Already did. That message is just telling you that the current presets hadn't been updated to match the new SAIN changes yet. You can just make a new preset and it will be created with the new system.
hi, i've tried a lot of mods for increasing the number of bosses on the map (like 100 killa) and nothing is working , do you know any mod for that? thanks!
hey guys.. i need some help with the mod. Since i added this mod, there is always a 100% for the goons to spawn on each map they can spawn. Like Lighthouse and shoreline. Is there any way to decrease the chance of them spawning?
Remember Swag+donuts just affects bot spawns, it doesn't have any parameters that are gonna make the AI feel smarter. Idk what settings you're using for SAIN but for me personally i went with the default config and tweaked it slightly to make the AI react slightly slower and be a little less accurate, since my aim in eft is kinda potato lol. One way you could use donuts to help test things out is turn up the pmc group spawn chance, since the way they behave with SAIN is noticeably different from vanilla. In my experience they are a solid challenge, even with my slightly nerfed default config. They should be talking to each other a lot, using suppressing fire/flanking tactics, throwing grenades, etc. If they don't seem to be doing those things there might be something wrong with your install. Make sure you have drakiaxyz's bigbrain and waypoints installed, otherwise neither SAIN nor donuts works properly
Might be a ground zero issue but i killed 10 PMC before dying and i'm just lvl3 with medium SAIN difficulty (easy on goons) but there's more LVL10+PMC than i have ammo and i struggle to fix that, trying to edit the json "PMCBotLimitPresets" like i found on a reddit to see if it stop spamming me with rushing PMC as i'm trying to do first quests without prema fighting... But thanks to your video i'll try the only starting PMC version and see if it's better, i don't mind scavs spawning all the time like player scavs simulation through the raid, but so much PMC was not manageable for me so early on.
@@thestarvox Thanks a lot, you sir are a superb resource for SPT thanks a lot for your efforts. ALso if i may ask what scoper are you using in the random quiet raid section, its a beauty.
Can you expand on the "bot hard cap option"? I know it caps the bots to a preset. But where do I set the number of bots? Say I want to cap my raids at 10 to help with performance. Where do I select "10" for the cap? I don't see that anywhere.
Feels like my bots are broken. I'm watching your video and your bots behave very differently from mine. If any bot would ever spot me - he will insta shoot me. If i shoot and wont kill bot - he will insta turn and shoot me. If i just sat somewhere for more, than 1 minute - bot will insta shoot me. But yours... they fight each other ignoring you. They take a lot of time aiming at you before shooting. And when they do shoot - they miss a lot. Have you changed much in SAIN for them to behave like that?
Does anyone know how to make the boss spawn markers work more consistently? I have some raids that will spawn a dozen bosses (or whatever I selected) and most raids I get NO spawns at all.
I have one complaint and maybe it's something that a setting can change, but the bots in my raids don't react when shot at, even if it's a loud gun. It's a little cheesy, and it seems like other people's AI I'd generally more reactive. Is there also a way to make them reactive to suppressing fire?
Hi, I'm having performance problems with the game. My pc has these specifications: GPU: 7800XT CPU: i513600KF RAM: CORSAIR DDR5 6400MHZ I PLAY AT 2560X1440 and have used all possible graphics settings. Factory runs smoothly, as does Lab, but reserve and streets run at 50-60 fps with quite a few frame drops. Customs and interchange go at 70-90 fps depending on the area. I have tried everything, I have activated the XMP profiles at 6400 Mhz. The processor does not have OC and neither does the GPU. Comment that the graphics reaches more than 90% use while the processor does not exceed 30%. I appreciate any help, on RUclips there are videos of people with my graphics that in the streets, playing ONLINE and with scav, maintain 120 fps without any problem and with high textures.
Buenas, estoy teniendo problemas de rendimiento con el juego. Mi pc tiene estas especificaciones: GPU: 7800XT CPU: i513600KF RAM: CORSAIR DDR5 6400MHZ JUEGO A 2560X1440 y he utilizado todas las configuraciones posibles de gráficos. Factory va fluido, al igual que Lab, pero reserve y streets van a 50-60 fps con bastantes bajadas de frames. Customs y interchange van a 70-90 fps según la zona. He probado de todo, he activdo los perfiles XMP a 6400 Mhz. El procesador no tiene OC y la GPU tampoco. Comentar que la grafica llega a mas del 90% de uso mientras que el procesador no supera el 30%. Agradezco cualquier ayuda, en youtube hay videos de gente con mi grafica que en streets, jugando ONLINE y con scav, mantiene los 120 fps sin ningun problema y con texturas en alto.
Hey StarVox, have you updated to 3.8.1 yet? Because there’re a decent amount of mods like Raid Overhaul and whatnot that still don’t work with it. Also, how do I downgrade my game back to 3.8.0?
I have a problem. I using aki 3.9 everything is okey but I cant finish raid Icant turn back to main menu when I die or while wait extract point time is finish but I cant exit map keep going stay in the map
@@thestarvox YES I AM SERİOUS AND TARKOv V0.14.6 .. I didnt find working tarkov version together spt 3.8. how ı find or download tarkov version working spt 3.8
I *think* that's only possible on the AK-12 and -15, since they have the large rear iron sight socket. Not sure if I've tried it with any other assault rifles or carbines, but I may have. Anyway, it's just possible whenever I try it in the Trader Modding interface, so I try it when I feel a little outrageous.
Okay, so we were trying to figure this out on Discord this morning and I really can't remember what mod enables that, lol. I've been checking through, though, and I'll be finalizing my 3.8 mod list today - so hopefully I'll find out before long. It's wild that I'm starting to forget some of these mod functions, been through so many.
Yes, you need to download and install the appropriate downgrader patcher. Though when i downgraded i needed to manually install, couldnt downgrade through the installer.
Thanks for the video! When you update to 3.8.1 would you mind going over how to migrate your saves and mod list/mod setting to the new version? Thanks again
You're welcome! I can't talk about that stuff publicly on RUclips to keep my videos safe from strikes, but we discuss all that stuff in our Discord server.
Does someone know what are the best settings which makes performace and also the feel of the game pretty similar to normal online game? My first game with everything as default/AsOnline was really bad on fps. From like normal 70 fps I went to 20-30 and I couldn't even to get to nowhere on interchange because I was fighting like nonstop. I tried some more games but it wasn't much better and now I'm kinda lazy to experiment with it more xD
You'll probably want to lower the bot cap in the config.json (spt/user/mods/donuts), the default is like 20-24 bots on most maps which i agree is way too many. I lowered mine to like 12-16 and have been using the quiet raids preset to learn ground zero and get my starting quests done and it feels pretty good. Honestly i might just keep quiet raids on at all times, if it doesnt make other maps too dead.
@@yellowsaurus4895 Thank you for your advice. I didn't touch nothing expect the normal settings. I will probably stick to 'starting pmcs only' preset so I don't need to worry too much I will run into pmc at extracts when I'm running out of time. I will try to play with setting more and I believe it will be alright.
Wonder if anything can be done with mods to make it better, or if its just a problem with BSGs optimization of character models for everybody, idk if that’s it tho
Yep, it'll just take an entirely new game, lol. Tarkov is aging and has been poorly-optimized for a while. We're currently waiting for the next entry in the genre.
I was lead to believe that this made bots smarter and more like players. After 200 raids and can safely say they are still just as useless if not nore so since the bots aren't "limited" to the destinations they can get stuck on and spin around at for tens of minutes.the spawn rates are also so fast and obnoxious that it's almost impossible to loot. Just like early dayz ai can't figure out how stairs and doors work, i aint no coder but god damn man has someone missed a letter or something on the pathing ?
@nulblank4915 only recently downloaded the project and used a list recommended by most of the community like big brain, questing bots and some quality of life stuff like buying your presets which should be standard features. Going to be taking a more in depth look at them as it seems by default out the box is not very new user friendly. Had recently bought the game a month ago, been enjoying this experience but yea think it's gonna be trial and error especially for the large amount of bots in game. Coming out with 20 plus kills but no way to loot due to constant spawns is rather annoying
@@hazatheonly you'll want to lower the bot cap in the donuts config.json (spt/user/mods) to something more reasonable like 12-16, and give the quiet raids preset a try. I've been using it and it makes things much less of a cluster, but still lively. Bots getting stuck on stuff isn't the AI's fault so much as it is BSG map design jank (lots of small objects that shouldn't have collision). Are you using SAIN? As others here have pointed out, none of the mods you've mentioned so far will improve the AI by themselves. If you do have SAIN but aren't sure if it's making a difference you could try using donuts to spawn more pmc groups, since their behavior is very obviously different with SAIN vs vanilla.
Could give a hint on how customizing specific spawn on certain points on maps (like streets cinema, or shoping mall, for quests) for donuts ? The hub page refers to some configs, but doesn't show the path, and some example image don't load anymore... Thanks a lot ! And love your content : )
Not really, I don't rearrange the spawn sites or anything. All I've done behind the scenes is reduce the overall bot count with Donuts. If you feel like the spawn sites need changing, check them with the Donuts debug mode.
Honestly with all the Tarkov blow up and references to SPT and MPT/Fika, you're in a goldmine of potential viewers. Good timing!
There's not just MPT there's Stay in Tarkov as well that STILL WORKS w/ 3.8.0 and most all mods.
@@AvengeXKing I mean you do you but Fika is 1000% easier to install
@@AvengeXKingfika does the same thing but better and easier to install.
I didn't like SIT install process. I'll checkout FIKA.
It's great having a proper demonstration of SWAG + Donuts like this, SPT stuff on RUclips needs more of that.
Yup, those 2 mods are the trickiest to set up, first time I tried donuts I got dead lobbies, then 2 raids of pmc overload, it never seems to be the in-between I'm looking for.
@@no1baggiefan Im constantly messing with mine trying to make presets for maps. JUST got out of a Customs raid. There were 15 scavs that spawned all at once at dorms. Blew my mind. lol
That's a lot!
Right? Its not like the tool tips in the mod menus arent helpful (its far more than you get with most mods, the devs made the effort), but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Thankfully we now have StarVox.
I made the switch yesterday to SPT after an absence on live of roughly a year. I’ve got 6 mods running and performance is on par with live if not a little better.
On Donuts specifically, I’ve selected PMCs to start with more scavs. Valens kit progression appears to be working. I’m having a great time! It’s great to be back.
More scavs is a lot of fun to warm up on cuz I suck 😂
Playing SPT without mods is terrible. The devs are very stubborn, amateurish and made some insane compromises.
You will see almost no raiders on Reserve and almost no Rogues on Lighthouse in vanilla SPT.
@@sujimayne They can be a stubborn as they please as long as they’re not charging me £250 for the privilege!
@@sujimayne tbf rogues are utter cancer, if i was an spt dev I'd probably nerf them too haha
You wanna play fika ? Let me know we have another player. Using many mods and stable ! I provide all the mods and cache.
I just got into SPT a week ago, this channel had been far too much help. thanks bro
You're welcome!
appreciate the video vox!, my performance was terrible on reserve but after following some tips on this video i gained around 30 frames back. Steller work and clear explanations are always welcomed thanks.
That's great, you're welcome!
Thanks very much!
can we talk about how calming you are to listen to
Your contribution to this community is helping so many people get the most out of Tarkov. GGs
much thanks for doing a good breakdown guide for donuts. Im sure many new modders such as myself needed this so much! SPT rocks!
You're welcome!
I keep having the issue with all the action happening on the otherside of map and then encounter very few face to face (ground zeros to be specific)
Thanks for these video my guy. It's made the transition from live to spt so much easier)
You're welcome!
Ground Zero is a wild map, it seems designed to provoke instant action.
In this case, reducing bot aggression with SAIN would be a good move.
Yeah me too lol, you hear gunshots for 5 mins, sounds like a 20 v 20 firefight, you get there and there's........one scav, no bodies. Wtaf ?
Ground zero is wild 😂 fighting for my life non stop usually on my spt the fitting is next to car extract (tarbank)
Best tutorial video for players who tries first time SPT
I really appreciate these videos. They have helped me really fine tune my experience to what I am looking for. Thank you for all of the wonderful content!
I didnt tweak Donuts because the video I watched was of an older version. The raid I was in was a constant swarm of PMC's and Scavs and was off the wall lol. Thank you for this video
You're welcome!
Of course, I'll have to make another one before long if we keep getting so many updates!
bro I mean it you are way more important teaching us about mods and specially about how to run it for the sake of "performance" than a banker.. Thank you so mush
Thank you for this. I was getting swarmed by bots to the point I couldnt get a thing done
Vox i really appreciate what you are doing. ive been watching your videos and thank you for them. subbed !
👏 👏 Your videos are very well put together! Keep it up and your channel will explode!
Thank you! Will do!
Which bot debug did he use? The one by DrakiaXYZ? I'd like to have that overlay on at all times. Maybe not location, but at least how many are on. I suspect something funky is going on in my game.
Nvm. It was. How do you toggle that tiny interface on the top right?
Please explain,thank you
I haven't had this much fun in Tarkov for years, the African servers are dead so having raids with "life" is amazing!
Another great video Operator Vox! Have my like!
I really like the more in depth vids.
Nother great vid 👍 I’m curious if load order is something important to worry about and do you have trouble with getting SVM and Realism, and SWAG for that matter, working together?
i dont think load order matters, just turn off bot changes in realism/svm
Thank you!
Fortunately, load order doesn't usually come into play unless a mod specifically requires a certain position in the order. Also, the major mods have all be designed to adjust to one another when used together, like SAIN and the Realism mod for example. Furthermore, mod descriptions will state whether or not special actions need taken for mods with compatibility issues.
@@thestarvox ah that is hella convenient. Coming from Fallout modding that’s pretty much a godsend having it tell you about compatibility issues. I had noticed that once with SVM and another mod but didn’t know if that was a one off or something.
Awesome thank you much
Great videos and help. I'm gonna try to go modded soon!
Which version of CWX is that? The only one I can find is said only to be working with SPT 3.7.0?
Wanted to check if my bot settings were done correctly
Edit: Scratch that. The tool in question is called "BOTMONITOR (CWX'S DEBUGGING TOOL) 2.3.0" by nooky! =)
Dear StarVox, i need some help with the spawn. So i use this mod and somehow no one spawning. Before i install the mod i had a problem where PMC and Scav only spawn at 10Minutes mark, most of the time boss spawn first then few minutes its PMC or Scav (rarely) its kinda frustrating to wait 10 minutes to just run into an AI
Be sure you have all the required mods and be sure they're updated. If not just download the newest versions and drop them in like normal and when it asks hit replace all files
Sounds like something is wrong with the mod installation.
Be sure to install any dependencies that mod's need, like Big Brain and Waypoints.
Also be sure that all versions are compatible for your game.
Thanks for the help 🙏
Really gotta try this to better my performance. I'm using a RTX 3060 12GB with an i5 10600k and I'm getting 30-40 FPS using Donuts with no edits. I'm gonna try to tweak it as you show in the video in a bit, see if I get better results.
Ok. Played some raids on Reserve, medium graphics with some changes on SAIN and the settings shown in the video for Quiet Raids for Donuts. I got around 50-60 FPS mostly. I feel like I encountered a lot more bots than I should have. I was constantly fighting and also were the bots. When a lot of stuff was going on or when bots were spawning ( I suppose ) I got around 35-40 FPS. It was a lot better than before though, the frame drops were not very noticeable and the gameplay was mostly smooth.
Thanks for the video and the amazing content StarVox!
You're welcome!
Yeah, on further investigation of Reserve, I see that the spawn sites and rates are super numerous and high - designed for lots of activity.
Those rates could be reduced in the Donuts config file's Reserve map parameters and the spawn sites modified, but I think it can remain as-is for now. It's just a dangerous place! Maybe I'll make another video about making the more intensive maps perform better.
@@thestarvox yeah that's what it seems. I played Ground Zero and Labs too, I had around 80 to 90 fps on both of them, I dunno much about the game but I really like Reserve
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
thank you, very helpful
You're welcome
Ever since installing swag+donuts, it seems as though my sain settings are not taking effect. My spawn ratios are much better now, but bots will straight up shoot me through bushes and see me in completely unrealistic ways as opposed to how it worked previously with just sain... debugging is exhausting
how do i enable this thing on the top right of my screen? i cant find a way to turn it on.
That's a mod called "BotMonitor".
i recently found your channel and love it. i havent played SPT since (and i had to check) Feb 2021. a lot has changed.... i downloaded the game and have been trying tto install the SPT-AKI but it keeps directing me to install 3.8.3. is there a way to install 3.8.0 or 3.8.1 as most of the mods in interested in are compatible for those version ?
when i download the installer and run it, it shows 3.8.3 with no apparant option to change it to a preferred earlier version.
apologies for being blind.
Most of the 3.8.0 mods should work fine with 3.8.3, but any mods below 3.8.0 won’t work.
Can you show us how to set hard cap for bots. I can’t seem to figure it out
You can set custom caps in the Donuts Scenario config file, but I can't show that here.
@@thestarvox I figured it out thanks
"Algorithmic Sarcastic interaction!"
Is there an easy wasy to update mods with out doing the the individual re download
Nope
music to this vid is dope, would like to see some game music mod during fire fights to get you pumped
Looking frwd to the questing bots review and how it interacts with other desirable mods like swagNdonuts!
Hooked on this channel! ❤🎉
what mod do those aid/ammo pouches come from?
That's the Tactical Gear Component mod.
Thanks for the awesome and useful content!
I’ve got a few questions because I notice that I feel less incentivised to use suppressors since there are no real players in SPT. Do bots behave differently or react whenever you shoot a suppressed weapon instead of unsuppressed, like do they pinpoint your location anyway? Do pmc bots follow the firing noise you make on the map(if they have a quest on pmc kills for example)? In general does it make sense to use suppressed weapons vs bots?
So, I actually don't know for sure in every case, but they are very practical with the Realism Mod, as they reduce deafening.
Whether or not it reduces attention from bots, I can't say. I frequently use suppressors and still get found, so it seems pretty realistic.
Definitely want to know for sure and I would be interested in arranging some tests for the channel.
In general, I just like suppressors in the game and how they function for firearms - some of them look great and require a little extra building; all good things for immersion.
@@thestarvox It feels like bots will sometimes come running when I fire. Other times, they are completely deaf. I've often wondered if sneaking around a map is useful at all or if I can just stomp around and make all the noise I want, because bots seem oblivious to noise I make in general. Do bots "hear" me walking?
I use SAIN and SWAG+, but I get the impression that the bots, especially the PMCs, don't adopt the SAIN difficulty settings, they become predictable and a bit boring. Am I missing something in the SWAG+DONUTS settings?
Appreciate the vids brother, I was wondering how are you doing the zoom in eye sight thing?
A very common question, but I show this mod extensively in earlier videos.
Look for the FOV Fix & Variable Optics mod.
this is a long shot but for some reason i don't have the PMC and SCAV raid preset selection option. after Other bot type spawn difficulty it goes straight to show random scenario selection. can't figure out why
Whats the mod (and setting) for the 45 degree reddot vehind your scope? I can only seit up i front of the normal scope.
Thanks in advance!
Great Video btw
I'm actually not sure, I've been asked that before in the server and we went looking.
Couldn't figure it out!
def gotta invest in a x3d chip king. it does wonders with spt
Oh yeah?
I definitely need to start planning my next build for when I get big on RUclips.
Thanks for the video, would be nice to know what settings you typically use though. Theres a lot of customization and it would be nice to know what works for you.
It changes depending on my needs every other day or so, really.
The counter does not show up in right upper corner. Please explain how to get the bot counter on screen. I've tried a few things and no help.
Do you stay on 3.8 not go to 3.8.1 yet? Cause I’ve been having trouble with the modlist some mods don’t load for example the clothing one doesn’t load
Nope, haven't gone 3.8.1 yet.
LOVE your videos. So helpful. Quesion... what is that mod you're using to peek a door or place a charge on it? I'm using Open Sesame, but it doesn't have some of the options I'm seeing on your vid.
Thank you!
You're looking for "Expanded Door Interactions" and "BackdoorBandit".
HOw did you put the little box indicating the number of bots?
how did you get the debug on the top right?
Hi...can you make a detailed video about how to use SAIN..when using SAIN I get this message on top..selected preset version:2.2.1 but current preset version is 2.2.0 default bot config values maybe set incorrectly due to updates to SAIN
Already did.
That message is just telling you that the current presets hadn't been updated to match the new SAIN changes yet.
You can just make a new preset and it will be created with the new system.
Sadly the debuggingtool isn't updated for 3.8.0, I couldn't do the tests on my machine to figure out which presets is good for me
So with swag/donuts and sain, if I set starting pmcs only, they will spawn at the beginning and utilize the waypoints to move around?
Yes, the Waypoints mod's navmesh.
Then, no more PMCs will spawn for that raid.
hi, i've tried a lot of mods for increasing the number of bosses on the map (like 100 killa) and nothing is working , do you know any mod for that? thanks!
Multiples of a boss in a raid?
Never tried it, sounds outrageous!
@@thestarvox yhea, i know, but i would like to fight more of the same bot type in the same raid =))
hey guys.. i need some help with the mod. Since i added this mod, there is always a 100% for the goons to spawn on each map they can spawn. Like Lighthouse and shoreline. Is there any way to decrease the chance of them spawning?
Whats the best settings for Swag+Donuts / SAIN? I feel like my bots are dumb as bricks..
Use I like pain for sain. Shit is nutty.
Press f6 for the sain menu f12 for the bepinex menu
@@AvengeXKing yeah I have the menus but I dont know I feel like they are stupid do I put the bots on hard?
Remember Swag+donuts just affects bot spawns, it doesn't have any parameters that are gonna make the AI feel smarter. Idk what settings you're using for SAIN but for me personally i went with the default config and tweaked it slightly to make the AI react slightly slower and be a little less accurate, since my aim in eft is kinda potato lol.
One way you could use donuts to help test things out is turn up the pmc group spawn chance, since the way they behave with SAIN is noticeably different from vanilla. In my experience they are a solid challenge, even with my slightly nerfed default config. They should be talking to each other a lot, using suppressing fire/flanking tactics, throwing grenades, etc. If they don't seem to be doing those things there might be something wrong with your install. Make sure you have drakiaxyz's bigbrain and waypoints installed, otherwise neither SAIN nor donuts works properly
Might be a ground zero issue but i killed 10 PMC before dying and i'm just lvl3 with medium SAIN difficulty (easy on goons) but there's more LVL10+PMC than i have ammo and i struggle to fix that, trying to edit the json "PMCBotLimitPresets" like i found on a reddit to see if it stop spamming me with rushing PMC as i'm trying to do first quests without prema fighting...
But thanks to your video i'll try the only starting PMC version and see if it's better, i don't mind scavs spawning all the time like player scavs simulation through the raid, but so much PMC was not manageable for me so early on.
does anybody know how to open the command menu? im having a hard time trying to find the panel
How do you zoom in? Im trying to find the controls options but no luck so far, does anyone knows?
Ive yet to watch the full video but what i did watch is excellent, just curious what presets you run @StarVox?
Thanks!
I almost always use Random Quiet Raids, even for bosses.
@@thestarvox Thanks a lot, you sir are a superb resource for SPT thanks a lot for your efforts. ALso if i may ask what scoper are you using in the random quiet raid section, its a beauty.
The tall 3x30? That's the SwampFox Trihawk.
Thank you!
How do we access that current mod page you are using where it displays current installed mods?
I have a link to it in my recent videos.
Can you expand on the "bot hard cap option"? I know it caps the bots to a preset. But where do I set the number of bots? Say I want to cap my raids at 10 to help with performance. Where do I select "10" for the cap? I don't see that anywhere.
It's in the Donuts config files, in its mod folder.
Look for the ScenarioConfig.json file.
@@thestarvox awesome! Got it. Thank you! I've been looking through the Bep menu driving myself mad. Lol.
Feels like my bots are broken. I'm watching your video and your bots behave very differently from mine.
If any bot would ever spot me - he will insta shoot me. If i shoot and wont kill bot - he will insta turn and shoot me. If i just sat somewhere for more, than 1 minute - bot will insta shoot me.
But yours... they fight each other ignoring you. They take a lot of time aiming at you before shooting. And when they do shoot - they miss a lot.
Have you changed much in SAIN for them to behave like that?
Yes, I always use some variation of the preset that I demonstrate in my last SAIN video.
Does anyone know how to make the boss spawn markers work more consistently? I have some raids that will spawn a dozen bosses (or whatever I selected) and most raids I get NO spawns at all.
Some boss spawns are just cursed and don't function very well.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has more luck in that regard.
Hi, some mod to third person? No on helmet view, like a back view...thx
I have one complaint and maybe it's something that a setting can change, but the bots in my raids don't react when shot at, even if it's a loud gun. It's a little cheesy, and it seems like other people's AI I'd generally more reactive. Is there also a way to make them reactive to suppressing fire?
You'll definitely want to use SAIN for that.
thanks for the vid
MVP
Hi, I'm having performance problems with the game.
My pc has these specifications:
GPU: 7800XT
CPU: i513600KF
RAM: CORSAIR DDR5 6400MHZ
I PLAY AT 2560X1440 and have used all possible graphics settings. Factory runs smoothly, as does Lab, but reserve and streets run at 50-60 fps with quite a few frame drops.
Customs and interchange go at 70-90 fps depending on the area.
I have tried everything, I have activated the XMP profiles at 6400 Mhz. The processor does not have OC and neither does the GPU.
Comment that the graphics reaches more than 90% use while the processor does not exceed 30%.
I appreciate any help, on RUclips there are videos of people with my graphics that in the streets, playing ONLINE and with scav, maintain 120 fps without any problem and with high textures.
Buenas, estoy teniendo problemas de rendimiento con el juego.
Mi pc tiene estas especificaciones:
GPU: 7800XT
CPU: i513600KF
RAM: CORSAIR DDR5 6400MHZ
JUEGO A 2560X1440 y he utilizado todas las configuraciones posibles de gráficos. Factory va fluido, al igual que Lab, pero reserve y streets van a 50-60 fps con bastantes bajadas de frames.
Customs y interchange van a 70-90 fps según la zona.
He probado de todo, he activdo los perfiles XMP a 6400 Mhz. El procesador no tiene OC y la GPU tampoco.
Comentar que la grafica llega a mas del 90% de uso mientras que el procesador no supera el 30%.
Agradezco cualquier ayuda, en youtube hay videos de gente con mi grafica que en streets, jugando ONLINE y con scav, mantiene los 120 fps sin ningun problema y con texturas en alto.
Love the mod but the only issue i have is my game seems to lag when bots spawn in? kinda odd
Yeah, that's just how it is. Tarkov is super roughly optimized and modified bot spawns can exacerbate that.
@@thestarvox gotcha! I messed with some of the settings to get it working well. Thanks for the reply
How do you bring up the debug interface?
i tried him with standart settings and on scav run in factory he spawned each 1 second an bot very weird
Does anyone have any issue with sniper scav on streets?Mine are not spawning at all.Any solution?
A lot of the poor performance comes from the programming being muffed to the point of never being optimized.
True that.
Hey StarVox, have you updated to 3.8.1 yet? Because there’re a decent amount of mods like Raid Overhaul and whatnot that still don’t work with it. Also, how do I downgrade my game back to 3.8.0?
Nope, I'm watching the Filebase like a hawk.
whats the mod you use for point shooting without aiming down sights?
Dude can you show SVM mod and how to apply to in SPTarkov in your next video?
Nope, can't show mods outside of the game.
BSG used to strike my videos for that.
@@thestarvox Ah i see , well thanks for answer anyway :)
Just come to our Discord server, I have tutorials.
I have a problem. I using aki 3.9 everything is okey but I cant finish raid Icant turn back to main menu when I die or while wait extract point time is finish but I cant exit map keep going stay in the map
AKI 3.9, whaaaat???
@@thestarvox YES I AM SERİOUS AND TARKOv V0.14.6 .. I didnt find working tarkov version together spt 3.8. how ı find or download tarkov version working spt 3.8
how I download tarkov version for aki 3.8
This is nice
Thank you!
How do you put your canted in place of your rear sights?
I *think* that's only possible on the AK-12 and -15, since they have the large rear iron sight socket.
Not sure if I've tried it with any other assault rifles or carbines, but I may have.
Anyway, it's just possible whenever I try it in the Trader Modding interface, so I try it when I feel a little outrageous.
Okay, so we were trying to figure this out on Discord this morning and I really can't remember what mod enables that, lol.
I've been checking through, though, and I'll be finalizing my 3.8 mod list today - so hopefully I'll find out before long.
It's wild that I'm starting to forget some of these mod functions, been through so many.
Where did you get those sick ass gloves maaan
Great video!
Thanks!
Those are in the Tactical Gear Component mod.
Will you ever do a video like this on your settings for Amand's graphics? Your game looks incredibly clear and it makes me jealous lol
Does that mod do anything?
I installed it and the only effect i saw was a bugged countdown timer
@@no1baggiefan if I'm not mistaken you can toggle it on and off in raid, so you can see for yourself. Never had it bug out the timer on my end
I've already done one!
@@thestarvoxyeah i found it like immediately after i posted the commnet lol. Cheers!
I think at this point we need the infinite raid timer and bots that can spawn forever. That would be tight af. 🎉
Already exists. Mine are 15 hours long
And that's just what we've got!
Can you share how you got your game to look so good? I have ama graphics but it’s nothing like your video
Check for my graphics video on Amand's and MeowShader
@@thestarvox thx!
You're welcome!
Whats the mod in top right showing bot locations?
Heyy wath mod gives those colored backgrounds to items like guns and armor?
ODT Item Info
Where do you enable the depth of field/blur when aiming through the scope?
Check my latest Short.
@@thestarvox Thank you.
I had a raid once where I had 40 bots spawned lmao had decent frames of like 58fps.
That's a lot!
Is it impossible to revert back to 3.8.0 ?
Yes, you need to download and install the appropriate downgrader patcher. Though when i downgraded i needed to manually install, couldnt downgrade through the installer.
Thanks for the video! When you update to 3.8.1 would you mind going over how to migrate your saves and mod list/mod setting to the new version? Thanks again
You're welcome!
I can't talk about that stuff publicly on RUclips to keep my videos safe from strikes, but we discuss all that stuff in our Discord server.
@@thestarvox Oh that’s a good point. I’ll hop on over there later today then 🫡
When will they update SPT to include the Unheard edition. Ready to try out the PvE mode
Does someone know what are the best settings which makes performace and also the feel of the game pretty similar to normal online game? My first game with everything as default/AsOnline was really bad on fps. From like normal 70 fps I went to 20-30 and I couldn't even to get to nowhere on interchange because I was fighting like nonstop. I tried some more games but it wasn't much better and now I'm kinda lazy to experiment with it more xD
You'll probably want to lower the bot cap in the config.json (spt/user/mods/donuts), the default is like 20-24 bots on most maps which i agree is way too many. I lowered mine to like 12-16 and have been using the quiet raids preset to learn ground zero and get my starting quests done and it feels pretty good. Honestly i might just keep quiet raids on at all times, if it doesnt make other maps too dead.
Also maxing out the spawn cooldown like shown in the video should help a bit
@@yellowsaurus4895 Thank you for your advice. I didn't touch nothing expect the normal settings. I will probably stick to 'starting pmcs only' preset so I don't need to worry too much I will run into pmc at extracts when I'm running out of time. I will try to play with setting more and I believe it will be alright.
Is helicrash works on 3.8?
Yes!
How do you change raid times? Is it a mod?
I use the KMC SVM for that.
on my 3080 it works fine for me
Do you ever have problems running so many mods at once?
Not usually.
your gun placement looks really odd
Odd?
Pretty unacceptable how unoptimized the games ai is, no reason that having like 20 bots should make the game lag as much as it does
Wonder if anything can be done with mods to make it better, or if its just a problem with BSGs optimization of character models for everybody, idk if that’s it tho
Yep, it'll just take an entirely new game, lol.
Tarkov is aging and has been poorly-optimized for a while.
We're currently waiting for the next entry in the genre.
@@PartyCrasher04 they're on an old engine and refuse to update to the newer unity versions
@@basedx. awesome
I was lead to believe that this made bots smarter and more like players. After 200 raids and can safely say they are still just as useless if not nore so since the bots aren't "limited" to the destinations they can get stuck on and spin around at for tens of minutes.the spawn rates are also so fast and obnoxious that it's almost impossible to loot. Just like early dayz ai can't figure out how stairs and doors work, i aint no coder but god damn man has someone missed a letter or something on the pathing ?
Because donuts has NOTHING to do with AI it only deals with spawning control.
Did you listen??
What mods are you using
@nulblank4915 only recently downloaded the project and used a list recommended by most of the community like big brain, questing bots and some quality of life stuff like buying your presets which should be standard features. Going to be taking a more in depth look at them as it seems by default out the box is not very new user friendly. Had recently bought the game a month ago, been enjoying this experience but yea think it's gonna be trial and error especially for the large amount of bots in game. Coming out with 20 plus kills but no way to loot due to constant spawns is rather annoying
I think you need SAIN for smarter bots
@@hazatheonly you'll want to lower the bot cap in the donuts config.json (spt/user/mods) to something more reasonable like 12-16, and give the quiet raids preset a try. I've been using it and it makes things much less of a cluster, but still lively.
Bots getting stuck on stuff isn't the AI's fault so much as it is BSG map design jank (lots of small objects that shouldn't have collision). Are you using SAIN? As others here have pointed out, none of the mods you've mentioned so far will improve the AI by themselves. If you do have SAIN but aren't sure if it's making a difference you could try using donuts to spawn more pmc groups, since their behavior is very obviously different with SAIN vs vanilla.
Could give a hint on how customizing specific spawn on certain points on maps (like streets cinema, or shoping mall, for quests) for donuts ? The hub page refers to some configs, but doesn't show the path, and some example image don't load anymore...
Thanks a lot !
And love your content : )
Not really, I don't rearrange the spawn sites or anything.
All I've done behind the scenes is reduce the overall bot count with Donuts.
If you feel like the spawn sites need changing, check them with the Donuts debug mode.