A few things: -If the game recognizes a special attack as a "reversal" then the move armor breaks regardless of it's inherent properties. To have the game recognize an attack as a reversal you have to do it immediately after leaving blockstun or as soon as you wakeup. -That ultra combo that ken did in the movie isn't as good as it could be. Let them fall a little lower after your focus dash cancel and Ken will catch them with all the hits of his ultra doing much more damage.
to cancel a normal focus attack - while holding both medium attacks double tap left or right. to cancel moves with a focus - make sure you have 2 EX bars, then when doing a special press (and hold) both mediums, while th medium buttons are held double tap left or right as before. muck around in training mode to get the feel of it down.
@heavenmaycryHQ That's how you cancel for this move. Cancelling in general in this game is anything that stops the animation of a move and starts another move. There are also 1)Chains 2)2 for 1s 3)Specials cancelled by super. Chains are when you cancel normal moves with other normal moves, like LP, LP, LP, LP while just mashing that button. You have to link the normals if you want to be able to 2 for 1 after these. 2 for 1 is just a normal cancelled by a special move.
I also think that what you said is awesome and was inspired to practice street fighter 4. Thanks for the tips about what Jessica Chobot is. Now I can beat Zangief.
by pressing a directional button twice, e.g. right, right. So you do dragonpunch, twice right, twice right again(in order to position yourself under the enemy) and Ultra him.
@DarkGreen2000 Only Gouken can successfully parry in sf4. Everyone else has to use the focus attack. For exapmple, if u use an EX parry with Gouken, he can parry two attacks then lash out equal damage immediately. Focus attacks can only handle one attack then is broken, so watch out for EX attacks when using a focus attack.
@Tinkzzappah if u are using a standard controller practise your thumb movements, if your a joy stick player, practise your wrist movement. Try to relx while you do it because you can move lot faster
@heavenmaycryHQ You cancel by doing a focus attack (hold MK and MP) right after doing the input for the move you want to cancel. To FADC (focus attack dash cancel), just dash right after you start the focus attack.
Cheers for the responses guys...Truth be told, i use the stick..but thats strictly out of habit from playing 2d fighters (emulated) using the stick of generic controllers eg Logitech. I genuinely find it hard to use the d-pad..I fid the d-pad soo hard to use and I practilly burn the crap out of my thumb using it..
It's not all about doing it fast. It's about having precise timing. You have to cancel the heavy kick, which means that just when you see the kick connect, input your hadouken. Just don't do both as fast as you can, wait until you see the kick animation start up, and then stop it.
@TheGlowingKnight FADC's regardless are harder to do constantly than most things in this game. Along w/ the fact that adding huge combos in the beginning are considered Soul Crushers which are used alot in advanced play.
Neither people were the "dummy for demonstration," Infact, there was Albel and Rufus too doing their combos/crossup/ex. To be more direct, however, with Ken, he's easier to give examples of because of his speed and multi-hitting attacks being non-ex required. For Ryu, most multi hitting stuff requires EX (as you can see from the EX Hadoken he did on Ken) which requires more quick thinking than quick character. The point is it was a demonstration, and the characters used should be taken lightly.
I actually learned all this from watching Daigo matches on youtube and from local tournies posted on twitch tv. Ryu's Ultra Uppercut won't do its full damage on launched enemies even if the initial hit connects, making his 2nd ultra only viable through cancel on an unlaunched opponent, and on 'bait and counter'. This also makes Metsu Hadoken his best Ultra simply because it can be used as a zoning tool to counter projectiles and connects all hits on launched opponents.
@yoshimek3 I never "throw one out for no reason". I always wait for an opening or do it after a focus attack. I mean that if you do an ultra after a long combo the damage from the ultra will get reduced a lot so it's better to save it for the right moment.
Sf4 is coming out in two weeks for the PC. I haven't played any SF for 10 years, it will take a LOT of practice to be competitive online. These are good hints.
@Psymonsdream it's pretty much the same with most fighters (excluding virtua fighter, since those games are just plain hard to get used to): takes a few seconds to learn, takes a few days, weeks or even months to fully master...
Once you practice it and get the timing its really not that bad. If you play as a Shoto character, try doing a Medium Shoryuken into a FADC. That way you only really need to hit B after you already did the move.
@acmx12 Because his moves are easy to pull off, they have HUGE priority, and Ken is spammed online because of it. Most people will spam the same 3 moves: Shoryuken, Haduken, and his spinning leg kick ( i cant remember what its called). Honestly though, if the person playing as Ken sucks, you can still destroy them if your decent with anyone. My favorite is owning Ken or Ryu people as Dan. SO satisfying.
It's SF1, then Alpha 2 (which replaces Alpha 1), then Alpha 3, then SF2, then SF4, then SF3, then 3rd Strike. All SF2 games are the same storyline. With SF3, there is a normal storyline and then the 3rd Strike storyline. 2nd Impact may or may not have an additional story, I'm not sure. Makes a lot of sense, I know.
If you have the cash to spare and you like fighting games (or want to get into fighting games) this is the best choice you can make. SF4 is a superb game and every bit as much fun (or more) as I was having with SF2 back in the arcades in '91 - '92.
@supersaiyan2ian Shoryuken (昇龍拳, Shōryūken?, "Rising Dragon Fist"), also known as the Dragon Punch in English language media, is a fictional special attack in the Street Fighter series used by Ryu, Ken. nailed it!
@TheGlowingKnight I've seen a lot of FADCs into Ultra on Twitch tv tournies. I've also seen a few FADC that fails to go into Ultra (good bye two or even three bars). High risk-High payoff, depending what type of player you are.
@PhilomathBret I mean only ultras. Because you can do normal moves as much as you want but you can't do ultras as much as you want so it's better to save your ultra for the right moment.
We weren't expecting Street Fighter 4 to introduce a new fighting mechanic so Tekken 6 might have some new gameplay values that will beneficial for the game.
With the forty available characters in Tekken so far, I won't mind it if they use the same game engine as the last Tekken because the quantity of playable characters in a fighting game can expand a variety of concepts regarding how great one character is.
@Tuffadandem I play just fine with the D-pad, but it took a while for me to get used to it. I've never tried using the analogue stick, so I wouldn't know. If you wanna get serious about the game, though, you should probably buy a Street Fighter IV arcade stick.
@CHOLKYJ It's called damage scaling. So by your reasoning, you shouldn't do combos of more than 3 hits ever because it will start scaling the damage down on the later moves and you can't do as much damage as you could do with those moves normally. Yup free unblockable damage is pointless.
no i'm not talkin about no auto grab button. I'm talkin about if ur getting up there is no escaping it unless the person using him messes up. And how it happens instantly if ur close.
Button mashing in 3D fighters do occur more but juggles in 3D fighting games particulary Tekken takes skill and strategy. Landing from a attack in various ways to capatalize on a miss low sweep or blocking the 10 hit combo that each character has and to memorize every attack to know when the low and high attacks are about to come is very strategic not to mention swaying attacks and grab reversals IMO Tekken has a deeper learining curve than SF it didn't take me too much practice to reach G2-B.
cancelling definatly looks fancy but i wouldnt say its necessary plus its better to waste ur meter on special attacks on light attacks into super combo
Yes, of course. You need skills to play Tekken! I just love the way that the fighter's hands don't even touch their oponent yet still cause damage. Brilliant. I'll admit not all the SF series have been good but SF4 is brilliant and as good as Street Fighter II.
akuma setup for ultra: a focus attack, cancel it, use tele to get behind him, focus attack again, tele again, that should confuse him a bit then use the raging demon and pwn him ^_^
There isn't any way to combo the demon in because it's just a grab. Your best bet is save your meter for ex moves and pull out the ultra off of a mixup, though it isn't guaranteed to work.
Tekken 6 looks good so far, I'll give you that, the problem is that they're adding more and more characters but keeping the same formula without an improvement so it's really hard to tell whether or not they're planning to take the game a whole new level.
@simplelife88393 yea i was looking them up and the arcade stick is at around 70 bucks. but this is something i want to take a little more serious than normal, and the d-pad is just not doing it for me. so i'm probably gonna end up getting it when the money comes around. thanks for the help though. apreciate it.
Generally, the only 'strategic' thing about a 3-D fighting game is the ability to step aside. Otherwise, it's Dash 'n' Mash. That's why you see more 'combo movies' for 2-D fighting games (Particularly Guilty Gear and King of Fighters.)
yes he's very good. his name is sagat and he's very fast and outsided of the wrestling guys, he is probably the strongest player in the game. he definitely my top 3 streetfighter
the reason y a lot of gamers like to use ken is because it's easier to string his combos together in example to the fire shoryuken or his ultra combo. Ryu's combos r a lot harder to string together because one he's slower and 2 they gave him shin hadouken which u have to time perfectly in a combo which makes it 5x harder i am a RYU user
@Darkson456 ah, ok, just wondering. This is my first time learning street fighter ( i've basically just been spamming supers but i was 5 so yeah...). its kind of nice with them telling you what you can cancel, but i see where you're coming from. But you can always just skip the trials.
i think people are misunderstanding me :) i meen like for example; charging for a special . So i should say, is there a way to speed up having to wait 2 seconds for a move which requires a hold...?
Let me put my two cents into this: Any game where a single not-very-complex move that can be executed at any time (Let's say, hold back and press two punch buttons, and the game itself doesn't have super meters) can be a one-hit KO probably won't have a 'professional' level of play.
"You'll bring so much pain to their opponents, they'd swear they watched first Street Fighter movie" Ahhh... The greatest Street Fighter joke of 2009 XD
street fighter 4 is an awsome game man lol, if you like games that are like really challenging in story and like games that are great for online then this would be a great buy, i recommend it
How do you get new characters???? I was playing the game when i first got it and i earned fei long. I had to reset my hard drive on my ps3. Now I've beat the game four of five times with two different characters and still have the default characters. Also...does the xbox version have more characters?
Yeah it looks simple, but I swear canceling is the hardest thing about this game, I can hardly do it. Your thumb movement has to be lighning fast to cancel then dash forward, and then perform another special. It confuses my thumb or it just causes it to slip.
Chronologially, it is not. It's the 6th one. It's the three in the Alpha series, then the first one, then the second, and then this one, and then the third.
"Don't pinch the whole yourself in the same move for over and over again. If you do, Well, get ready to see the game over screens a lot." Lol, that's a good sentence...
A few things:
-If the game recognizes a special attack as a "reversal" then the move armor breaks regardless of it's inherent properties. To have the game recognize an attack as a reversal you have to do it immediately after leaving blockstun or as soon as you wakeup.
-That ultra combo that ken did in the movie isn't as good as it could be. Let them fall a little lower after your focus dash cancel and Ken will catch them with all the hits of his ultra doing much more damage.
I have Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition, and thank goodness the gamplay is pretty much the same. This video really helps
"Let's say you're Ken..."
You were talking to a lot of people when you said that...
to cancel a normal focus attack - while holding both medium attacks double tap left or right.
to cancel moves with a focus - make sure you have 2 EX bars, then when doing a special press (and hold) both mediums, while th medium buttons are held double tap left or right as before.
muck around in training mode to get the feel of it down.
@heavenmaycryHQ That's how you cancel for this move. Cancelling in general in this game is anything that stops the animation of a move and starts another move. There are also 1)Chains 2)2 for 1s 3)Specials cancelled by super. Chains are when you cancel normal moves with other normal moves, like LP, LP, LP, LP while just mashing that button. You have to link the normals if you want to be able to 2 for 1 after these. 2 for 1 is just a normal cancelled by a special move.
I didn't realize you could do all of that stuff with the focus attacks. this game is soooo awesome
Focus attack: MK+MP ,Cancel:using a focus attack while executing an attack ,Dash:>>
I also think that what you said is awesome and was inspired to practice street fighter 4. Thanks for the tips about what Jessica Chobot is. Now I can beat Zangief.
Really nice. I need to practice the focus cancel more. Thanks IGN.
by pressing a directional button twice, e.g. right, right.
So you do dragonpunch, twice right, twice right again(in order to position yourself under the enemy) and Ultra him.
@DarkGreen2000 Only Gouken can successfully parry in sf4. Everyone else has to use the focus attack. For exapmple, if u use an EX parry with Gouken, he can parry two attacks then lash out equal damage immediately. Focus attacks can only handle one attack then is broken, so watch out for EX attacks when using a focus attack.
That was actually a really helpful vid.. are there any more like this for SFIV I can find?
@Tinkzzappah if u are using a standard controller practise your thumb movements, if your a joy stick player, practise your wrist movement. Try to relx while you do it because you can move lot faster
@heavenmaycryHQ You cancel by doing a focus attack (hold MK and MP) right after doing the input for the move you want to cancel. To FADC (focus attack dash cancel), just dash right after you start the focus attack.
Wow this was really useful. I never did quite get my head around focus attacks but now I know ^_^
Cheers for the responses guys...Truth be told, i use the stick..but thats strictly out of habit from playing 2d fighters (emulated) using the stick of generic controllers eg Logitech. I genuinely find it hard to use the d-pad..I fid the d-pad soo hard to use and I practilly burn the crap out of my thumb using it..
It's not all about doing it fast. It's about having precise timing. You have to cancel the heavy kick, which means that just when you see the kick connect, input your hadouken. Just don't do both as fast as you can, wait until you see the kick animation start up, and then stop it.
@TheGlowingKnight FADC's regardless are harder to do constantly than most things in this game. Along w/ the fact that adding huge combos in the beginning are considered Soul Crushers which are used alot in advanced play.
Neither people were the "dummy for demonstration," Infact, there was Albel and Rufus too doing their combos/crossup/ex. To be more direct, however, with Ken, he's easier to give examples of because of his speed and multi-hitting attacks being non-ex required. For Ryu, most multi hitting stuff requires EX (as you can see from the EX Hadoken he did on Ken) which requires more quick thinking than quick character.
The point is it was a demonstration, and the characters used should be taken lightly.
I actually learned all this from watching Daigo matches on youtube and from local tournies posted on twitch tv.
Ryu's Ultra Uppercut won't do its full damage on launched enemies even if the initial hit connects, making his 2nd ultra only viable through cancel on an unlaunched opponent, and on 'bait and counter'. This also makes Metsu Hadoken his best Ultra simply because it can be used as a zoning tool to counter projectiles and connects all hits on launched opponents.
the install option is in the options menu, under game settings i think.. just like through all the game options you will find it
This is actually a good tutorial video for the new-commers. I rate it 5.
@yoshimek3 I never "throw one out for no reason". I always wait for an opening or do it after a focus attack. I mean that if you do an ultra after a long combo the damage from the ultra will get reduced a lot so it's better to save it for the right moment.
Sf4 is coming out in two weeks for the PC. I haven't played any SF for 10 years, it will take a LOT of practice to be competitive online. These are good hints.
@Psymonsdream it's pretty much the same with most fighters (excluding virtua fighter, since those games are just plain hard to get used to): takes a few seconds to learn, takes a few days, weeks or even months to fully master...
@SlipknotLeon I think all uppercuts are dragon punches...
really like the art style of this game. its like next gen okami + street fighter
Incredible! With this focus attack and cancels. Ryu's hadouken spamming won't be a problem!
Loving Focus moves,
Sakura and C-VIP have the best ones (CV because her's has a huge range.)
@TheGlowingKnight FADC's are advanced and are usually are a part of most advanced combos. And FADC's are more advanced than double tapping.
Once you practice it and get the timing its really not that bad. If you play as a Shoto character, try doing a Medium Shoryuken into a FADC. That way you only really need to hit B after you already did the move.
@CopyNinja87
You can cancel a normal into a normal, for everything else its FADC (ef ai dee cee) Focus attack dash cancel.
@acmx12 Because his moves are easy to pull off, they have HUGE priority, and Ken is spammed online because of it. Most people will spam the same 3 moves: Shoryuken, Haduken, and his spinning leg kick ( i cant remember what its called). Honestly though, if the person playing as Ken sucks, you can still destroy them if your decent with anyone. My favorite is owning Ken or Ryu people as Dan. SO satisfying.
why do people preffer x360 controller, whats so different from ps2 for example??? plz explain
It's SF1, then Alpha 2 (which replaces Alpha 1), then Alpha 3, then SF2, then SF4, then SF3, then 3rd Strike. All SF2 games are the same storyline. With SF3, there is a normal storyline and then the 3rd Strike storyline. 2nd Impact may or may not have an additional story, I'm not sure. Makes a lot of sense, I know.
If you have the cash to spare and you like fighting games (or want to get into fighting games) this is the best choice you can make. SF4 is a superb game and every bit as much fun (or more) as I was having with SF2 back in the arcades in '91 - '92.
@supersaiyan2ian Shoryuken (昇龍拳, Shōryūken?, "Rising Dragon Fist"), also known as the Dragon Punch in English language media, is a fictional special attack in the Street Fighter series used by Ryu, Ken.
nailed it!
@reprovo no because on arcade there is a LK. MK, HK and a LP, MP, HP button as well
@ifrit1780 yes, its the same thing, except there are now 2 ultras for each character, letting you mix it up a little more.
@TheGlowingKnight I've seen a lot of FADCs into Ultra on Twitch tv tournies. I've also seen a few FADC that fails to go into Ultra (good bye two or even three bars). High risk-High payoff, depending what type of player you are.
@PhilomathBret I mean only ultras. Because you can do normal moves as much as you want but you can't do ultras as much as you want so it's better to save your ultra for the right moment.
We weren't expecting Street Fighter 4 to introduce a new fighting mechanic so Tekken 6 might have some new gameplay values that will beneficial for the game.
With the forty available characters in Tekken so far, I won't mind it if they use the same game engine as the last Tekken because the quantity of playable characters in a fighting game can expand a variety of concepts regarding how great one character is.
go to the system option in SF4 and there should be an option to install into ur harddrive
This game truly kicks ass
@Tuffadandem I play just fine with the D-pad, but it took a while for me to get used to it. I've never tried using the analogue stick, so I wouldn't know. If you wanna get serious about the game, though, you should probably buy a Street Fighter IV arcade stick.
@CHOLKYJ It's called damage scaling. So by your reasoning, you shouldn't do combos of more than 3 hits ever because it will start scaling the damage down on the later moves and you can't do as much damage as you could do with those moves normally. Yup free unblockable damage is pointless.
if you want to cancel a focus attack just do a dash
no i'm not talkin about no auto grab button. I'm talkin about if ur getting up there is no escaping it unless the person using him messes up. And how it happens instantly if ur close.
Some great tips.
Button mashing in 3D fighters do occur more but juggles in 3D fighting games particulary Tekken takes skill and strategy. Landing from a attack in various ways to capatalize on a miss low sweep or blocking the 10 hit combo that each character has and to memorize every attack to know when the low and high attacks are about to come is very strategic not to mention swaying attacks and grab reversals IMO Tekken has a deeper learining curve than SF it didn't take me too much practice to reach G2-B.
Woot! I learned something new and how to parry!
yes this game looks amazing! its so sweet looking!! i do prefer style over substance tho
cancelling definatly looks fancy but i wouldnt say its necessary plus its better to waste ur meter on special attacks on light attacks into super combo
They have the Ultra and Super settings on unlimited in the training option, that's why.
Yes, of course. You need skills to play Tekken!
I just love the way that the fighter's hands don't even touch their oponent yet still cause damage. Brilliant.
I'll admit not all the SF series have been good but SF4 is brilliant and as good as Street Fighter II.
Thanks for informing even those silly looking characters can be effective. I always base my assessment of a character on how silly they look
this was really well explained
akuma setup for ultra: a focus attack, cancel it, use tele to get behind him, focus attack again, tele again, that should confuse him a bit then use the raging demon and pwn him ^_^
@rmnhn " takes a few days, weeks or even months to fully master.."
Unless that game is tekken 6, in which it takes years.
There isn't any way to combo the demon in because it's just a grab. Your best bet is save your meter for ex moves and pull out the ultra off of a mixup, though it isn't guaranteed to work.
Tekken 6 looks good so far, I'll give you that, the problem is that they're adding more and more characters but keeping the same formula without an improvement so it's really hard to tell whether or not they're planning to take the game a whole new level.
Wow, I didn't think the focus attacks were that deep. You could use that in a million ways.
@simplelife88393 yea i was looking them up and the arcade stick is at around 70 bucks. but this is something i want to take a little more serious than normal, and the d-pad is just not doing it for me. so i'm probably gonna end up getting it when the money comes around. thanks for the help though. apreciate it.
Generally, the only 'strategic' thing about a 3-D fighting game is the ability to step aside. Otherwise, it's Dash 'n' Mash. That's why you see more 'combo movies' for 2-D fighting games (Particularly Guilty Gear and King of Fighters.)
yes he's very good. his name is sagat and he's very fast and outsided of the wrestling guys, he is probably the strongest player in the game.
he definitely my top 3 streetfighter
Actually, Apha takes place in between 1 and 2 (notice Sagat has his scar and is looking for revenge against Ryu, who beat hm in the first).
the reason y a lot of gamers like to use ken is because it's easier to string his combos together in example to the fire shoryuken or his ultra combo.
Ryu's combos r a lot harder to string together because one he's slower and 2 they gave him shin hadouken which u have to time perfectly in a combo which makes it 5x harder
i am a RYU user
I found it useful, and for you guys who're complaining, is there any more advanced than this in the game?
should say grabs are great too as well to break out of focus situiations.
@Darkson456 ah, ok, just wondering. This is my first time learning street fighter ( i've basically just been spamming supers but i was 5 so yeah...). its kind of nice with them telling you what you can cancel, but i see where you're coming from. But you can always just skip the trials.
i ordered a ps3, sf4 and resistance 2 today! yay for me
What character and what trial number?
I will look into it.
Ah, absolutely, I understand and agree my friend.
i think people are misunderstanding me :) i meen like for example; charging for a special . So i should say, is there a way to speed up having to wait 2 seconds for a move which requires a hold...?
how do you perform ultras/supers?
i think she meant b4 the third hit. i was confused for a sec when i saw that she said out of the third hit
Let me put my two cents into this: Any game where a single not-very-complex move that can be executed at any time (Let's say, hold back and press two punch buttons, and the game itself doesn't have super meters) can be a one-hit KO probably won't have a 'professional' level of play.
Thanks for this IGN!
"You'll bring so much pain to their opponents, they'd swear they watched first Street Fighter movie" Ahhh... The greatest Street Fighter joke of 2009 XD
street fighter 4 is an awsome game man lol, if you like games that are like really challenging in story and like games that are great for online then this would be a great buy, i recommend it
@XrossFade
whats advanced for you mister street fighter?
playing using your eyebrows?
You remind me of Dwight from the Office. Would you prefer information on bears, beets, and Battlestar Galactica.
They should show Jessica through the whole video and Street Fighter in the background (with green screen).
how much longer do we have to wait until the updated DLC?
I call it "focus shatter", thank you. It sounds better.
ur friend speaks the truth, I was playin it on the 360, and man I was pissed becuz of the d-pad
where do I have to press for the Super Combos for ps3 pleassee for an answer
How do you get new characters???? I was playing the game when i first got it and i earned fei long. I had to reset my hard drive on my ps3. Now I've beat the game four of five times with two different characters and still have the default characters. Also...does the xbox version have more characters?
Okay thanks . i will be trying that
C'mon u can't compare the two both games are great. What you think is better Call of Duty World at War or Call of Duty 4
Yup both are of the hook, and i think we need a street fighter and tekken merge, cause i said so! damn i love being the man!
Yeah it looks simple, but I swear canceling is the hardest thing about this game, I can hardly do it. Your thumb movement has to be lighning fast to cancel then dash forward, and then perform another special. It confuses my thumb or it just causes it to slip.
block and spam shoryuken on block
- this has been pro sf4 tips
You take that back! Ken's VA is the same one who VA's Dante.
Chronologially, it is not. It's the 6th one. It's the three in the Alpha series, then the first one, then the second, and then this one, and then the third.
How does focusing compare to parrying?
how do you cancel your moves in order to perfom others?
"Don't pinch the whole yourself in the same move for over and over again. If you do, Well, get ready to see the game over screens a lot."
Lol, that's a good sentence...
her voice is clear and nice to listen to, maybs thats why they have her as the host?
why you gotta hate on her?