Shelley Duvall On Working With Kubrick On 'The Shining'
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Shelley Duvall details the emotional and physical turmoil she was put through by director Stanley Kubrick on the set of 1980's 'The Shining'.
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RIP Shelley Duvall ❤️
R.I.P🕊
R.I.P ❤
R.I.P🕊️🕊️
@@filmtalking RIP🕊️🕊️
R.I.P 🕊️
In Loving Memory Of
Shelley Alexis Duvall
(7/7/1949-7/11/2024)
She died on my birthday 😔😔
Oh she died on my birthday... RIP 🕊
I had no clue she died
RIP Shelley Duvall 🥺🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🤎
...😢😢 Kubrick was a Criminal. !!!
He should have been in the jail
in Borehamwood. U. K. Precinct
where the film was shot. !
...but he had too much power and
money..
Shelley deserves more recognition for her part in the film
This role is already one of the most praised...
Honestly, I think she should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actress. I find her terrified reactions to be even more chilling than Jack Nicholson's menacing performance.
@@harleyzethAre you high?!? Shelley Duval has never won an Oscar in her life, let alone for this role. You really need to check Google before you show people how uninformed you truly are.
@@harleyzethActually, she's never even been *nominated* for one!
Well, she was nominated due to this role alright... for a Razzie award!
they better fucking honor her in a huge way at the Oscar’s or something. It makes me so mad and sad at the same time how much she had to suffer in the name of art & making one of the greatest horror movies of all time. rest in power Queen
The Oscars is a satanic ritual… and I’m not even a Christian
Well said.
I just watched a video where she said she knew in the end, that he loved her. Then I see this! I always thought he was mean to her. Weird to see the other video. She made it just a few months ago.
I think this poses an important question: is it worth having luxuries (cinema, jewelry, electronic devices, etc) if someone must suffer on its behalf?
@@xgreenxcloverx excellent question and my immediate response was "hell no."
Now that I'm older, I realize just how beautiful she was RIP
she was always beautiful 💗
Yeah she was. A beautiful lady
Right?? How can we not have realized it earlier???
I never realised she was so pretty beautiful skin and lovely eyes - very natural looking.
Wait now? Dude I’ve been loving here since the first time I watched the shinning a decade or more ago
I like how honest she is about the experience.
Right? Like she isn’t just up there shilling for the studio or hyping the movie up. She is being candid about her experience, gut level- as we should
In the last phrase of that part she justify Kubrick ... These part don't like me.
As she should be. Im glad she spoke up about her abhorrent treatment
She (is)was brave and I loved her in that movie.
It was interesting to see her express exactly how she felt about him. The cynical look on his face appeared like he got off on giving her hell (being that he could see that his behavior was negatively affecting her). Or he went overboard with his shenanighans so that she could be the nervous wreck that he needed the character to portray in that role.
She’s been underrated in Hollywood! Her talent and instincts are impeccable!
clearly thats because she has a soul, unlike many in hollyweird
why does she look like coraline, if it was a liveaction
PEOPLE DON`T HAVE ANY INSTINCTS why would you even say that in this context? please
She is a bad actress, sorry
@@asdfg9659if you don't think people have instincts you don't understand anything.
I love it when co-actors recognize the different ways some people on set were treated
He and Stanley have been dismissive of her multiple times
Too bad Nicholson didn’t think to try to stick up for her
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Bud Jack Nicholson is a pos. Great actor, completely awful as most from Hollywood are.
That woman was just incredibly beautiful and kind. I remember we ran into her after the movie and I kept staring at her. She bent down, booped my nose and said hi. Just sweet
Aww that is sweet !
IS not Was lol
I love hearing Shelly long tell fairy 🧚♀️ tales. I cam still hear her voice as I did as a kid. Much love , liked what you wrote
She’s stunning
@@andreagardndr her voice is so ethereal and unique. I love it so much. I wonder what you would call this accent? it's gorgeous. her cadence is just gorgeous
She should have won awards for her performance in this film. She was amazing ❤ Great actress.
Pay attention. She wasn’t acting. Her director was terrorising her.
I hope she got a % every time it plays. She was perfect for the part, but unfortunately not temperamentally suited, hence the "push" from Stanley, that's why she was CHOSEN... fragile but w/unknown, hidden mt.of strength. Funny he saw it, she didn't.
@@jakestroll6518she absolutely was acting and was being worked harder for the part to get the actual results the director was wanting from her.
It always amazes me that we don't all shout from the rooftops that SHE WAS THE STAR of the film.
He did a great job Directing her
She should have won an Oscar for that role, she was amazing.
She was. 🥰
I absolutely agree! She was great! Very natural beauty!!
That’s because she was literally living a real life nightmare to mimic in the movie😢 I loved her as Olive in the movie Popeye though. Hopefully she was treated with more dignity with robin Williams on cast…
I thought she was totally WRONG for that role.
She didn't do it justice AT ALL.
You mean super annoying?
May she rest in peace. Her portrayal of Wendy was fantastic.
that one line she said, "you always dislike whatever the cause is of pain", is really very true
much love to her
very impactful
And too many people (the ones that have never really suffered pain) expect victims (mostly women) not to be able to hold or express any negative emotion, specialy toward their abuser.
I thought the role was over acted, but that's how most stuff pre 90s seems.
People hated her in that role, I liked her. I agree with the comment before mine about it being over acted, but I didn’t mind it. It worked.
Cringe
I am impressed by her resilience and the tolerance required to deal with a person who clearly got under her skin and still remained professional.
It destroyed her mental health, though. She never fully recovered from the PTSD, her life was tragically and permanently altered.
@@carolyntalbot947yes this
Yeah she didn’t make it out of this healthy and whole she is deeply troubled
someone had to stay professional so
@@linn469she was a professional. the entire time. stop hating women.
She seems so sweet and kind
That may have also been why he thought he could push her around.
falling in love aint you? now go look up her current photo
Stupid thing to say. Talking about her personality which is important. Who cares what she looks like. Also, people age and change.@@last7509
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@@last7509 I'm sure she's still sweet and kind.
She was gorgeous.
Agree
Until she smiles-
@cainmayberry what you trying to say? She's ugly?
@@cainmayberry you thought you ate?
@@cainmayberryit’s really not that bad
I always wondered why I didn't see many movie's with Shelley Duval. Now I think I know. She did deserve an Oscar for the Shining.
She was actually involved with 20 other movies after The Shining, some as an actress and some as a producer. The role right after was as Olive in Popeye with Robin Williams.
She was amazing as Olive Oile in Popeye with Robin Williams
she was great in "Three Women"
Did we watch the same movie!?!!! She was terrible!
Shes done several movies... she played olive oil in the robin williams popeye movie and she was in a casper movie in the 90s and a bunch of other films
She should have won an Oscar! Her acting was off the charts! The scream scene when Jack was axing down the door!? Just wow!
She wasn't acting she was truly terrified and traumatized
@@stephanie53127... Jack was truly frightening in that scene and he was so in the part.
There's a clip on YT of him preparing for that scene swinging his axe and he truly turns into a madman.
He was also a firefighter at some point and KNEW how to swing an axe. The first door shattered like matchsticks so they had to get a re-enforced (not a set) door.
Kubrik got the best out of everyone in that film. Harsh, but the results speak for themselves.
@@stephanie53127 Saying she wasn’t acting just erases her talent and work as an actor tbh. Like yeah there were parts in filming when she was genuinely frightened but there are parts where she pretended to be afraid. You can’t just talk about her like a traumatized child…
@@stephanie53127 Her acting was wonderful.
Especially considering they shot that 60 scene times.
To hear Jack say "he was a different director with her" speaks volumes
Ah yes... The Golden Bear!
You know it’s bad when other co actors even start to pick up on it 😬😬😬 poor Shelly, he’s so evil. at least her work turn out really good but it ruined her for life 😞☹️
Not really.
He should've stepped in
He wouldn’t have been able to get away with his behaviour with Jack
She deserved so much more. Rest In Peace 🕊️💐
Shelley is such a sweetheart
Was
Seems pampered, delusional, and weak. You can tell by the way she talks that she's from a wealthy family, so hearing her pretend to feel so victimized and overworked acting in a movie begets resentment. Regular people working concrete or iron or loads of other jobs work harder in a day than she did that entire year.
Is. It’s not physical.
@@MAMRetroshe's also not dead, is she?
@@idontevenlikebarbequesauce3462No. She's not dead.
I love how Jack admitted that Stanley was a different director with Shelley. He saw how hard he was pushing her.
I mean, is the bare minimum
He also did absolutely nothing to help her AND if you check other quotes by him on this matter, he minimized the complaints of abuse she made and defended Kubrick.
I was also going to say he did nothing to help her! He got the accolades and she got suffering!
Why didn’t Jack stick up for her?
@@kiriki4558~ “In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.” - MLK
She is a beautiful woman, really sucks she was treated bad. She always seemed to have a kind soul.
Before being a delicate snowflake was a thing there was Shelley Duvall being a delicate snowflake lol.
@@shadycnetworkshe was literally traumatized? She was extremely tired and got Ill and was pushed extremely far.
@@shadycnetwork
Your ignorance is showing.
@@jenniferlloyd9574 not really sweetheart but my honesty is showing.
@@jenniferlloyd9574you can't argue with someone who doesn't believe in science
She was a very talented actress. I'm sorry she had so many issues later in life. Rest in peace, Shelley... you deserve that peace.
A small silver lining seems to be that she found a kind and accepting partner that provided loving care and emotional support up until her passing.
I am heartbroken for Shelly. She was such a sweet soul. Hollywood destroyed her.
No it didn't. Lol. She did Faerie Tale Theatre after this. Hollywood gave her a career. She chose it.
@@tenebrae23It's not great, but Schneider fared worse.
Hollywood seems to destroy many in a variety of ways. ex. Think Harvey Weinstein
She is not destroyed... I 💘 her. Prayers
Oh please. She has a fortune of 5 million.
I'd like to be so "destroyed". She went on to do 19 movies, some other roles. The problem with Shelly is more than one thing but she is mentally ill. And was before and after Kubrick. What a whiner.
Poor Shelley was never the same after making the Shining.. My heart really breaks for her.. Nothing is worth that amount of cruelty.
People always say this but she just developed mental illness. The schizo kind. A movie didn’t do that to her, no matter how cruel the director was.
@WiggyWamWam Shelly said herself years ago in an interview that she was never the same after making that movie. It's not just an opinion when the woman said it herself.
It was her choice for fame
@beecloete7766 uh I seriously doubt she went into making that movie with the prospect of being bullied, and half scared to death... Yeah sure, ok...
@@WiggyWamWam Getting yelled at and tormented and argued with until your life or death hyperventilating is 'authentic enough' for the camera causes schizophrenia now?
She was enormous in that role , loved her
Because He Pushed Her So Hard...
@@madpeace1764it's a compliment not an insult. You don't need to ad on.
@@ccc-qp7el
Shut Yer Yap Weakling
I KNOW It's Not An Insult!!!
She wasn’t
@@MaximLuchinin here we have: the contrarian
She has such a beautiful voice, rest in peace shelley ❤️
She was amazing in the Shining. She definitely brought life to the character.
That's because a lot of her trauma was actually *real* .
Yes because the director traumatised her so her reactions would be more real. He exauted her for days just before they filmed the scene with the axe. I thing he slaped her on the face so she could crie, too
@@lablab657she was paid to do it... it's not like she was a prisoner..
@@oliveryt7168she was paid to play a role. Not be mistreated and traumatised wtf? Oh my employer pays me so its completely fine that he beats me
@@oliveryt7168oh so you’re fine with being slapped by your boss? Sure. Even then she can’t leave due to contracts. If she leaves, she could be blacklisted.
Shelly didn’t deserve what happened and the lack of empathy. Seeing videos of her recently, you can clearly tell she was abandoned. I hope she’s doin well ❤
She’s still acting and is producing also, she did fine from it..
I blame the director for doing that to her. He put her in such a fragile state of mind. That she had a hard time climbing out of the fear and anxiety he put her through. I hate that he is so obviously talented but it’s a shame no one stood up to him and told him to give poor Shelly a break from being so cruel to her.
She recently worked on a film set. I don't remember if she was just helping out with it or actually in it. Grimmlifecollective did a video about it. And interview Shelley Duvall.
You can't even bad for someone that didn't enjoy their opportunity that millions wish they had.
@@StealthBard that was the most recent video I had seen of her. I’m glad she’s getting back to it and working on new projects.
SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY MARVELOUS IN THAT ROLE! Unforgettable!
Bruh
Epic 🤩
And we have Stanley to thank
@@ubernate860nah, Shelly the real one for sticking through.
@@ubernate860the abuser??……
Shelley Duvall was beautiful, and so under-appreciated.I pray that her spirit can feel how beloved she was.R.I.P.🙏
She was amazing in that role! Im so sorry she had to go through all that! It wasnt worth her going thru all the mental stuff!! She was a great actress!!
Was it though? For all we know she could have pulled it off without the abuse.
I feel as though that's one of the differenced between men and women. It's pretty normal for men to beat down and bully other men to get them to be strong and perform at their best. It can even be a sign of respect.
But treating this fair, gentle and fragile looking woman in that manner... It just doesn't seem right to me at all.
@@SquareNoggin dude she literally said it WASN’T worth her going though all that.
Yah watching her go through trauma was amazing! Good thing she wasn’t one shut in and go quiet.
"Is", isn't she still alive?
@@vickiebeecher3918Yes of course and still acting she never seems to age 🤗 Love you Shelly ❤
Stanley would have never gotten away with such treatment of an actress today. As it stands, whatever she went through, it was a phenomenal performance.
He wouldn't have tried treating a man like that.
It's his worst movie imo
Oh come on, you think no one's doing fucked up things to actresses nowadays? Really?
@@catIing Well which movie sets and directors are you referring to?
@@catIing as an actress the union has a lot of safeguards now.
Shelly absolutely NAILED her role in that film. She should be incredibly proud of herself, she literally created a legacy
This goes to show it's not without sacrifice
Yeah, the director made a great job at pushing her to create such a masterpiece
At what cause tho.. Look at what it did to her after
@lindyt3942it isn't. That's stupid to sacrifice your sanity for money and fame.
Proud 😂
Rest in peace to the beautiful Shelly Duvall! ❤️❤️
Shelly was equally as important as Jack in this film. She did such a wonderful job with this role. You don't see that anymore, just raw talent.
She really did. I mean, she was very similar to a real murder victim!
❤
Ik and just imagining what she went through for this part is soo tragic what the hell is wrong with the drector
In fact she was so annoyingly bad that Stanley almost went for the axe himself on several occasions..
@@amir071 Sounds legit
she realy deserved an oscar for that role
Agreed. She's very gothic in the role.
@@firenze5555 What made her gothic?
An insult that she was nominated for a razzie award. Her performance was so raw and realistic and they couldn’t see that
@@reeznevhater She had the most demanding role in the film.
@@firenze5555tf how was she gothic?
No one could have played Wendy like Shelly did. Fantastic actress, iconic performance.
the bat scene (i think it holds a guinness world record for most takes)
world class acting by jack and shelley
*Yes! 100% agree...!!! It's one of the best crafted & performed movies ever!* 🎥 🎞️
Love you Shelley, this world is not the same without you.
Her voice is so beyond beautiful and soothing
You are so right. Everybody says that.
Lol no
She read the script , was told it was going to hard , she took it made a great film now she’s crying about it once again women who can’t take responsibility
@@yoyoyoyoyoyo6She is not responsible for someone verbally abusing her.
He made her do hundreds of takes for each scene, and yelled at her constantly. No actor or actress signs up to that when they accept a role. Kubrick bullied her for the entirety of filming.
Her beauty is so unique & priceless
She's very odd looking. Not beautiful
fr she's a cutie
right? she looks so unique
Seriously. She’s soo beautiful. I was in awe watching this.
You should see her now, it’s so sad
Meanwhile he sheltered that little boy from even knowing he's in a horror movie. The actor who played Danny didn't find out he was even in a movie until he was in his late teens, he thought it was an after school special
He didn't want to ruin his innocence but Shelly was too innocent she needed to be broken to actually bring her to the depths of her emotional state of the love of her family and the fear of the one you love could all of a sudden hurt you .
@@kaleahcollins4567 "she needed to be broken"? bro sounds like you might need to be broken
Source? Pretty sure he went to public school and was more than well aware of what the movie was.
@@AtarGG yes, before DVD players and VCRs though. No elementary school kid was going to see the Shining in theaters.
@@kaleahcollins4567tf? a whole year of that shit is overboard. what makes you think it's ok to break people so they can fit a role? what makes you think she hasn't gone through shit before? what the fuck
RIP Shelley Duvall (1949-2024)😢
Without Shelly in the movie you wouldn’t understand how crazy Jack was acting.
When in reality it was Stanley who was being crazy.
Shelly is just as important to the film as Jack. She hit it out of the park in my book.
I think she is the standout actor in that film, Jack is great but she really carried that movie. Some theories are about that the movie actually depicts Wendy's mental breakdown and that what we see is all in her head. Its an interesting idea and I don't completely buy it or dismiss it, but it would help explain why he treated her the way he did and why Stephen King hated his adaptation of the book.
@@72twistmy theory is that the lead male role is just an abusive alcoholic the whole time. There isnt one scene where he isnt a total prick
@@72twistKing hates it because the movie is too different to the book
@@RedTrooper22 Kings books have never adapted to film well. Just sayin'...
GO DO SOME RESEARCH
It’s sad that her amazing performance caused her such trauma in her real life.
It didn't. Its been overblown and she has even said nearly the same thing
It seems it was amazing bc she was pushed...🤷🏾♀️
Trauma? Oh boo hoo the director told her to do her job good😢
@@ThatHungryAfricanChild Imagine being abused by your director for a year because he wants the character to be more real. Stanley Kubrik was an amazing film maker but not the best person
@@ThatHungryAfricanChildwhat the fuck is wrong with you?
Rest In Peace beautiful ✝️🕊️
She did an amazing job he treated her like crap
Did she have a choice...was she paid well.?
I would say no..she knew she was working with one of the greats. She suffered for the role of a lifetime.
She did outlive Kubrick so that's a win
She did an amazing job becuse Kubrick pushed her.
The unfortunate truth: She did an amazing job BECAUSE he treated her like crap
I dont care what anyone says this woman is beautiful
Bruh I’m saying!!! Her little eyes looking that? Imagine her soft little moans 😮💨! Lol I was bricked up most of the movie I’m not even gon lie 🤣
I'm 50 and I had a major crush on her throughout most of my childhood and young adulthood.
@@72twist 37 myself
@@sethgaston8347 I want you to sit, and think, about this comment you’ve left.
@@sethgaston8347 HUH
I don't think any level of art justifies destroying another human being.
"suffer for your art"
Any Job.
Agreed. Unless a person chooses to subject themselves to something like that it’s totally unethical and the ends don’t justify the means
I tend to agree. Suffering for your art only applies when it is your own personal vision
The basis of fame is evil, destructive, smoke and mirrors; it’s the nature of the business.
Thank you for the memories. Rest easy, Shelley😢
Shelley has the most soft, loving voice yo me. She was my favorite as a kid, especially in Fairy Tale Theater.
I love Fairy Tale Theater. I still watch it today. My favorite story was The Frog Prince with Robin Williams.
I loved that show! I always think about it but can never find it when I need it 😅
Omg I love faerie tale theater!!!! I grew up on that I love them all!!! And Shelley is amazing ❤
Yes absolutely!!!
She’s part of my childhood. Fairytale theatre was an escape for me. I hope she knows how many people’s lives she’s inspired and enriched.
Same here! I loved that show when I was a little girl.
Me also! I loved her from a young age.
Yes! I loved those. Wasn't she Mother Goose?
Same! I loved this movie too, until I grew up and found out about the abuse. Now it's hard to watch
I loved that show.
I never realized how beautiful she is. I suppose because he had her in constant misery, and pulling faces that she wouldn't be normally, or speaking normally. If Jack knew he treated her differently, then everyone else did too 😢 I saw a thing that said if someone is a bully towards someone, and nobody does anything about it, then it signals to the person, the bully, and everyone else that it's ok 😢
She was absolutely amazing! She really did deserve an Oscar.
We dont knkw if he said anything or not
I just noticed that too. Very beautiful in an atypical way. I’m stunned right now.
I was thinking that too. I have this olive oyl gangly dorky her in my head for some reason, I jus noticed while watching this that she’s actually very pretty. Delicate features, cute lil nose.
I thought the same thing. I was watching her and thought, my god she was gorgeous!
Well, Paul Simon and Ringo Star had a relationship with her, so they recognised her beauty outside and within😊
What Stanley Kubrick did to Shelley was absolutely inexcusable. The mental trauma she got from this she had to live with for the rest of her life. What he did to her as a Director would not even fly today in the slightest. Shelley should’ve gotten more recognition for her role in this film for all that she went through
So a movie she was in in 1980 which she got paid for were I addition to she was acting effected her for the rest of her life because the director yelled at her sometimes please stop
@@JosephPerrotta-db9xp Yeah, please stop butchering the English language. They have things called 'spell checkers'. It's a good thing anyone can barely understand your trying to insult someone.
I am not insulting anyone. I am simply saying you are paid for a job . You know the requirements of your job and what the job entails so don't complain if the job caused you mental anguish. She is an actress acting out a part she is not digging ditches for the peace corps.
She was the best thing in the whole movie. Her acting was fantastic. Wonderful actress
The problem is half the time, she wasn't acting, that's why she was stressed.
It’s so heartbreaking to see how her mental health took such a downtown for so many years. It’s so good to see her re-emerging again after so many years. Perhaps she’s been able to see how many people still love her after all this time.
Dr Phil was a jerk to have her on his shpw
@@ericrivera8410doctor Phil is a Certified bastard.
@@ericrivera8410 certified in that he got a two parter of Behind the Bastards.
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@@ericrivera8410Dr Phil is just a jerk.
He's not even a real Dr just an asshole with a show
She should of won an academy award for her performance
I said that about Jack Nicholson too. I wish they can recieve it now , 42 43 yrs later
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@@patldennis who gives a shit
@@THECARS7879yeah both of them deserved one but I feel like her especially since she was bullied for so long because of it they both did AMAZING though
It really breaks my heart he was so cruel to her. But he got a great rememberable performance out of her. She was amazing in that movie. RIP Shelly rest Easy now 🕊🕯🕯🕊🕯🕯🕊🕯
Your comment gives me whiplash😂
😢He "got the performance out of her" by destroying her physically and mentally. In another interview she talked about how her hair was falling out and she was losing weight at an alarming rate.
If he was her boss at any other job we'd say he was torturing her, and call it a hostile/abusive working environment.
People can say what they want about Stanley, but the dude definitely needed a lesson on humility.
Needed a fucking lesson in humanity more like it, I doubt the man even had a soul
Wrong.
EVERYBODY KNEW what they were
signing on for when they agreed to
be in a Kubrick Film.
Even Nicholson knew.
These Actors WANTED the challenge because Kubrick was the greatest Director of the 20th century.
Being in a Kubrick Film was a RARE honor that not everybody got,
even more so now that he's gone.
They were all warned about how difficult it would be, and they chose to go ahead and do the job anyway.
You can't blame Kubrick for his personal style of directing. MILLIONS of dollars were on the line and he took it deadly serious.
@@skelter1153 "You can't blame Kubrick for his personal style of directing." Yes I can, he was an abusive piece of shit.
@@skelter1153we can blame him for whatever we want actually, just cause you sign up for something hard doesn’t mean a person has permission to ruin your health
@@skelter1153ah yes "personal style of directing" justifies abuse... Jack Nicholson and a lot of people have said that he went above and beyond the line with her, no one else was treated to such an extreme, so I'm pretty sure she did not infact know that she signed up for that mate...
you can be a fan of the guy and praise his art, hell we all fucking do it's not like he is underground or something! but you also gotta admit that Kubrick had a lot of issues and was a prick to put it lightly.
Would his work had been the same if he had been any different? That is something we will never know, probably not!
But just like when method actors get way too consumed by their characters the line gets drawn when you make others miserable and fuck with their lives. If not, every so called genius that pops up gets to think they can do whatever they want with others as long as the end result gets them praised, and we have enough of those people already in places far more dangerous than the film industry.
Nothing you mentioned gives an argument to justify the original comment being wrong as you said.
Masterclass in acting, powerful performance.
Strong, sensitive caring, loving, frightened, nervous etc etc. Shelley delivered a multitude of emotions in The Shining.
But at some point, was it really acting? 🤔
She wasn't acting...
@@nickalvarez3635but she was though, she’s delivering lines, she’s acting. To say she wasn’t acting is actually a disservice to her. Yes she went though a lot during filming but nonetheless when the cameras were rolling she was still performing and acting and doing her job. Magnificently might I add
I like her in the role but she's kinda goofy in it to be honest. She seems like a nice and empathetic person and people like her get affected a lot by negative experiences, I know because I'm a very empathetic person as well who has been through trauma so I can see how she became the way she did later in life, also side note, "doctor" phil is an utter piece of garbage.
@@FrawgfithAmblose Dr Phil?
Kubrick was the real Jack Torrence to her..
😂😂💀
Frfr
@@GAMINGBALAJENot funny. It’s horrible.
@@ArthurMrgan I didn't mean to disrespect her the comment is funny
He was. He really was.
This is my all time favorite movie. I understand the craft of acting from my own experience...Her role was not a easy one. She did an amazing job & the movie would never be as great as it was without Shelly. May she rest in peace & be remembered for her gift of being a talented actress. 💙
Seriously, she did such an amazing job at one point I remembered it was just a movie, and became extreamly concerned bc how amazing she did this!
She’s just so uniquely stunning holy cow how could anyone exploit this woman? They were cruel to her on set 😢
Ah but if she were ugly it'd be fine to exploit her... wtf man
Haven't seen her in years, would like too, hope she is ok now.
Stop sexualizing women
@@sigelsegal2297 how was that sexualizing ?😅
Man if i could go back in time i’d eat dat crazy pucci like a pig in a trough
She was fantastic. That early scene when she is discussing her husband’s alcoholism with the pediatrician is so brilliant. I love her.
Rest in peace Shelley 🙏
If Nicholson himself comes out and says that Stanley a completely different director when it came to Duval, that tells you how serious it was for him to publicly recognise it
Jack Nicholson is on cocaine both in that movie and in that interview.
I was JUST thinking this and going to say something along these lines, while just starting to scroll through the comments here and quickly seeing yours. If Jack Nicholson acknowledges and gives seriousness to the fact that Shelley went through an entirely different ordeal/experience on set, it was REALLY bad.
You adding contex thats not there. For all we know he could have been saying he was different with her.....as in nicer.
Omg you had to cry and run and carry a small child. Most people do that on top of working every day.
@@mrspams3489just say it's the only time you've heard about this topic and move on
@@mrspams3489or maybe YOU can watch his interview yourself instead of making up context that supports YOUR perspective. Both of these people are still alive and have been very open about their treatment in their roles.
No one should ever suffer like that in order to record a damn movie.
I agree.
Ask her if it was worth it
art is important
@@etalex7074 not important enough to mentally abuse some and cause health problems that have lasted ever since
@@dramaticcheese_ The whole “Kubrick caused health problems for the rest of her life” is a complete myth that infantilizes Shelley. She had a very fruitful career after The Shining.
Stanley was cruel to her. He should never have been allowed to treat her this way. No director should ever have this kind of power. Shelly you are a great actress. He was a monster.
Absolutely agree! I & many others still don't even get the point... Stephen King himself has said many times her character was *meant* to be STRONG! He wrote her as a strong independent woman! Why the hell Kubrick changed her into a *completely* submissive flower petal is beyond me and King. 🤦
@@Simone-Bucn Probably because he was a misogynist pig.
@Simone-Bucn yes, the changes made by Kubrick just seem misogynistic kind of
@@Simone-Bucn that's why you're not a renowned film director
he was a genius.
I always loved your acting Shelly you will be missed 😢. May you rest in peace now . God Bless you
No filmmaker should treat his crew like shit. He did it severely with her.
@@Paul_RidgewayWrong, he drove her to near mental breakdown.
While treating Jack Nicholson more humanly. It is like one child being abused and the other kids know its not fair but dont feel they have the power to do anything about it.
@@Paul_Ridgeway says the non actor ..I had a small part in a foreign film at sixteen the director was German and would shout at me in German I had no idea fortunately it was a short scene for four hours of filming not a year
@@Paul_Ridgeway I actually had Moore models Ng gigs though I just did stand up this week in NY
@@Alvan81near? Shes in a psychiatric facility last i checked. She was already mentally destroyed so "Dr" phil exploited her on camera for 45 mins the sent her to the hospital.
That movie would have been very different without her. She just encompasses the sheer terror of her character's situation. Definitely one of the scariest movies of all time.
Lmao no
But knowing what we know now, it wasn't worth it.
@@Emper0rH0rdedoesn’t matter if it’s worth it. It happened and produced an amazing piece of art regardless.
I know right. I consider it the best horror film ever made
It scared the heck out of me. Of course, I should never have been allowed to see it as I was a small child (of a horror film addict)🙄😩😃. There were too many horror films I watched through my fingers or just listened to because I was so scared because of the scary music!!!
He was a piece of crap that man. He gave this poor woman PTSD. In todays day and age you can definitely sue for that.
He triggered her schitzophrenia
You can get the Union to stop a production for that
@@BloodOrangeSunstop being ridiculous!!! 😂😂😂
@@MissVictoryRolls1940 you seen her on doctor Phil 😂 shit was wild
In 2021, Shelley Duvall spoke of the emotional toll of performing the role of Wendy Torrance and the challenges of long days on the set but said that Kubrick was "very warm and friendly" to her. She also rented a small apartment in order to be close to the set. Kubrick’s daughter Vivian called the Dr. Phil episode about her “exploitative”.
R.I.P Shelley Duvall. May we never ever forget how much you went through you absolute icon.
She was AMAZING in that film.
Dude she ruined that movie straight up.
She made this movie, without her it wouldn't have been the same movie ❤
She played her part so well. No one but Shelly could pulled that off. She was amazing when she couldn't get out of the window and tells Danny to run and hide. What a great mom.
*"What a great mom."*
😆
@puglove876
She was playing a ROLE, not being a "great mom."
I loved her acting, very well played and she did great with her acting ❤😅
That man traumatised that poor woman to make her role more believable, the man was sick
There’s never an excuse to be nasty to someone who is making your vision come true. She didn’t deserve to be mistreated and if I had been the director I would have been so proud of her and would make sure everyone is treated with respect and that everyone is comfortable. An absolute legend and she made this part shine ❤
One of my favourite films is The Shining. But, to know what Shelley Duvall went through at the hands of Stanley Kubrick is just horrible to know. He really put her through hell. And, then when the film was released she got a Razzie! Unbelievable. She definitely should have won an Oscar. She worked so hard.
You know she was a completely willing participant right? 🤣
He didn't do anything to her that she didn't want done. She was a grown woman and consented and was HAPPY to be a part of the project.
If she was unhappy she could have left at any moment.
@@goodcitizen3780hmmm... You have a good point, I mean why would someone put up with those conditions, almost as if it provided money that one needs to survive... No it couldn't be that. God you are stupid
@@goodcitizen3780 It's called a work ethic. Millions of people push through a gruelling day every day.
@@goodcitizen3780you're really dumb
I didn't know she got a razzie. That is insult to injury, poor girl, wow 😢
Wow. This was eye opening. I heard of Kubrick treating her badly before but this video really gives a more clear lens into what she went through because of him. So sad
Apparently he was using terror as a way to "enhance" her acting. I call it torture with more than a little unhealthy dose of sexism. His mom treated him like a miracle and he always acted like women owed him obedience.
@@thornybackdidn't he also forbid the rest of the cast to talk to her? I heard that some years ago but idk how true it was
@@lounirs Yes, you're right. He isolated Shelly from the rest of the cast. They couldn't even communicate. He singled her out.
She was discovered at a party in Texas by Robert Altman while he was working on a film there. He said she was the most positive, upbeat person he'd ever met in his life. Shelly never had any acting ambitions, but Altman saw something in her. Soon after, he cast her in the movie 3 Women with Sissy Spacek. A really good sleeper.
Even Jack Nicholson acknowledged how different Kubrick treated Shelley compared to the rest of the cast. Very messed up.
@@thornybackOh here we go. How is he sexist for this?
Not to mention the pure torture he put her through! Not feeding her and holding knives to her neck and threading her with them so she would be scared and do better....he did some inhuman things to this poor actress that her mental health never recovered.
Lmfao 🤣
Source?
@@Danica.senseiher, people working on the movie. Kubrick. Do you people never google anything?
Why did she stay and take that treatment?
The blood sweat and tears of an astounding film!!!
It really was astounding. An absolute masterpiece.
Art should never warrant abuse. It's a fallacy that it is ever required to get 'the best' out of people and such a statement in the routine justification abusers give. Like Michael Jackson's father for instance. Abuse can motivate people to achieve excellence but as a people we should be reinforcing that a person's psychological and physical welfare - spiritual too but not everyone believes in that - trump the creation of art/product EVERY. TIME. Pain is not the same as suffering. He could have used other methods or ways of communicating with her that got an even better performance.
Dude stfu. Loser giving lecture about things he has never done lmao. How many movies have you directed? I'll tell you don't answer: ZERO.
Of course abuse is bad, but I don't think this could be categorized as such and let's not pretend she couldn't have walked away at any moment if she wanted to. No one had a gun to her head or forced her to do anything that she wasn't willing to do. I've seen all the behind-the-scenes clips from the movie and I never saw anything from Kubrick that suggests abusive behavior. Sure, 100+ takes of one scene is rough, but being a perfectionist director who holds high standards from actors doesn't equate with abuse. That's just a tough boss. Directors routinely purposefully fluster actors before a dramatic scene because it often DOES fish out a better performance from them.
Oh boo hoo. You mean he yelled at her and she got a big check from starring in a movie? The poor woman.
@@theloanranger2632 working with him gave her trauma and health problems which i think she still has. the money doesnt mean much when working destroys you
@@theloanranger2632big talk from someone who has never been through anything like that lmao. just sitting on youtube talking sh*t
That man should’ve been sued for abusing his employees at the workplace
Unfortunately, it was a much different time. Children and women were openly abused and no one did anything. My uncle got caught with a tiny bag of marijuana in 1977 in his locker at school, and my grandfather literally found him at a burger-king after school that day and beat him repeatedly with closed fists and almost hospitalized him. It was infront of EVERYONE in the parking lot for 10-15 minutes. Employees, my uncles friends, cars on the street. A police officer showed up and my grandfather explained to the officer why he was beating his son, and the officer literally said, "Sir, you can't do that here. You have to do it at home."
The union should have showed up at his house with Scabby the rat and Sabo the Cat.
Pipe down drama queen!
Oh honey, not much has improved in the film industry, unfortunately. You can get away with a lot of shit on a set, unfortunately
@@brianneh1547I remember people just hitting, kicking, punching kids and women anywhere at anytime...even other people's kids. I saw other parents hit, kick, punch other people's kids in the grocery store if they were loud or do what kids do....play. The parents would thank them for hitting them!? That was the norm. All so physical back then...and everyone smoking and drinking and yelling and arguing.
They call that the good ole days.
Not even adding the constant child sexual abuse in and out of church. Endless traumatic events for most people.
Not the good ole days.
I like how she speaks. Very clear proper pronunciation
It’s audibly lovely to the ear. She soft & elegant in her delivery.
Me too
That's how people would speak at that time. Very articulate.
Na u jus racis
@@Mandyb05nowadays the females make me vomit by how they sound. Every time a woman speaks on TV I mute the TV
Goodbye Shelley Duvall, i'm so sorry about what you went through during that movie. If it's any consolation that movie turned out to be one of the greatest horror movies of all time.
She is an amazing actress, you were right there with her throughout the entire movie .
That women did NOT deserve what Stanley and SO many other in Hollywood did to her. They systematically tortured her and then never provided any help. She is so insanely talented and just an amazingly sweet person.
He abused her for the sake of “art” there is no excuse for that. I hurt bad for her, she went through hell. I wish for nothing but her happiness and healing in the future. ❤
Well she is with God now.
Healing in the future? The movie was filmed 43+ years ago...
@adammalzahn7238 She's still alive. She's 74 I think.
@@adammalzahn7238she's still alive dude....
Shelly Duvall filmed this movie in the 80s. I’m sure it was honest mistake and you mean well but I’m sure she’s doing much better now
He brought out the best in everyone in The Shining..but it was the effort done by all that was the true genius of the movie.
It's a Masterpiece!
he treated her badly and it wasnt necessary-a truly great director doesnt abuse the actors to make their film
@shayshay9764 a truly great director did so shut the fuck up about it.
What a film, her performance was nothing short of sensational. Both her and Jack were outstanding
It's a shit film, truly rubbish.
Too bad it cost her her sanity
I feel the opposite, it cost her her sanity and it ended up being a subpar, kinda boring, and monotonous movie.
@@Aramis___0_ohow’s it feel being wrong
@@mosquerajoseph7305ever heard of an opinion 😂
She was so amazing. My heart goes out to her. No person deserves to be treated like that at work. It breaks you down. Destroys you. Poor Shelley.
Word anywhere in life. It's bad enough that we beat ourselves down. We don't need anyone else putting salt on our cuts.😢
She is gorgeous and voice is everything! Her performance was legendary!
Gorgeous? 😂
@@Native1_9must not have seen her now🤮
@@Native1_9yeah gorgeous
@@SHEEPLESUCKshes old as shit dude what do you expect
@@Native1_9I think she’s extremely beautiful. She’s very weird looking but that’s what makes her so interesting to look at.
She’s incredible ;( rest in peace sweet angel
Her acting in the Shining was underrated. She actually was amazing in the Shining.
She’s not a great actress at all and even in this she can tank an unimportant scene but overall she did well cuz she was legitimately on the verge of a breakdown via Stanley. And I think he did that so he could her mental state where he deemed worthy of a woman trapped in a hotel with a wax wielding maniac.
@@chadgrov? What? How old are you? You said nothing in your comment lol
Thank you, future toxic boss of America! Thank you, future receiver of record HR complaints and lawsuits! 🤣
That poor woman suffered badly. I love her still to this day!
He could have accomplished the same quality of work WITHOUT treating her like he did.
i dont think so
Agreed
I think he probably enjoyed it
@LemonChickenSlurp
Then he's not a good director. 😁😐
@LemonChickenSlurp okay, well id rather a worse shining where the actors were treated like human beings. Knowing that someone was abused makes the movie a worse viewing experience to me.
@@LemonChickenSlurpif not that means he isn’t a good director sooo
She is amazing.
I hope she knew how appreciated she is before she passed 🙏🏽🌈