AD/DA Converters Upgrade: MOTU 16A AVB
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Re-Upload from the backup channel. Apologies for the reupload, I'm just being fair to MOTU, I wanted them to be on the main channel 🙏 thank you for understanding fam!
Congratulations
Nothing to apologize for, imo. Great to have you back!
"Vitine spezzate" is fantastic! 😂😂😂
I own a 16a for 3 years now...love it. Large learning curve, but superb workhorse! Great sounding as well, especially low end. When compared to my previous focusrite, there was a noticeable, and pleasing boost in sound complexity.
Do you know how to make a stereo send out from my daw to the 16a into mono so that it can go into my re501?
Hi, I love your channel and especially this video about the full installation and setup procedure of your outboard gear! I use MOTU's myself and this video was really helpfull to expand my own system. Keep it up!
I grabbed one few years ago and it's fantastic. AVB feature is indeed awesome to expend your studio at your needs.
I've had a 16A for few years and love it, I didn't need built in preamps just the conversion. Bought an 8A to use for a small mobile rig too. Earlier this year bought a 24AO to give me a full 16 outputs for a summing mixer since 1 & 2 are the speaker outs. Really great system, flexible and sounds excellent, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
That is really tempting !! Nice piece of gear !!!
I've been using the Motu 16A for a while now and I'm super happy. The conversion sounds great and is important since I'm using a lot of analog gear. I plan to expand with a Switch, one 24AI and two 24AO in a few months to connect every gear I have at once :D
Dope! Didn't know you were a Motu guy. I was just searching the Gearslutz forms researching a new interface and keep hearing about Motus latest interfaces as I was looking for something with top notch converters and low latency. I just ordered the 828ES that seemed like the best bang for the buck rather than an old Lynx Auroa converter. Lots of i/Os for my external mic pre amps and uses the same DAC chip found in the Apogee Symphony. Money well spent.
MOTU mark of the unicorn! My first interface when I began in the 90s.
That's the thing, they've been doing this for a minute!
Totally bought an 8pre-es after your review. Now my mouth is watering.
I just got mine on feb 9th
Already saw this one - but still here for the support 💪
Thank you, I apologise for the reupload, but it wasn't fair to Motu to be on the backup channel only, they are among the nicest people in the industry. Thank you for being here man! Much appreciated
Great review. The 16A looks awesome. CAT5 is the business. I'm running a less complex but similar hybrid setup with my Metric Halo ULN8 converters connected to my computer via CAT5. Way better connectivity than USB or Firewire.
Will be interested in your take after you’ve used it for a bit. Welcome back by the way!
Great video! Motu rules!
huge leap nice video :)
16A is great, I used to own one. I was surprised by the amount of trim control on the TRS inputs and outputs. motu did good.
I have motu 624 for two and a half years and its great zero problems great sound low latency ,preamps are ok not great but good
Very clean with the cat 5,6,7
Pretty bad ass!
great to see this. i was actually considering motu for my next purchase to be able to handle my minimal hybrid rig. 1 lunchbox and a masterbus
Go for it, they have no competition in the price range, and you have to go a lot higher in price to do better at which point is a matter of diminished return
@@mixbustv very true. I've never heard anything bad about Motu anyway and like you said the pricing is really good in comparison. Thanks!
I had a Motu 828 MkII.. Watching this brought back great memories.....
Now apogee... But AVB is a Winner... As much as I might go UAD next up... The whole DSP thing doesn't really interest me...
DSP with Protools on D24 > then mix cards definitely whipped native plugs.. but thats a long time ago...
Low latency when Tracking on a HDX Rig running plugs.... .. No doubt an advantage.... But..
I really believe in this day and age, How far code and cpu's have come, It can be argued , theres amazing plugs without the requirement of DSP based effects....
So , I digress...
The reason im doing a rant is because the value of this motu, and its features, gives me more value ..
Yep..
Thinking Ill be going back to Motu.
Damn I need to find a way to use more channels. This sounds cool.
thanks i wanted this for my Mackie 32 8 bus for a good while iam on it now
I was just about to buy the Craborne 500 ADAT to go with my Apollo 8x for more outs. This is the same price and I get 4 more stereo outs.
This looks like a good idea for someone like me who has synths so I can sell my mixer and go directly into my DAW. But I would also get a Cranbourne to have access to the 500 series Eq's, compression, and Mic Pres.
Glad you reuploaded here because I never knew about the backup channel! Question: If you're setting up your analog mixing chains using the matrix router or Pro Tools inserts rather than your analog patch bay aren't you adding a DA/AD step and associated DSP latency each time? Any disadvantage to this as you've been using it?
I wanted to ask the same question. I have come across other people who work like that - using hardware units as plugins, each unit doing a DA/AD loop - and claiming they don't recognize any perceivable degradation. And there's Andrew Scheps who claims even one DA/AD is too much when mixing.
Glad I did then! Well it's very different if you're using the MOTU matrix or pro tools inserts: with PT inserts you need to open 2 and in that case there would be an additional adda conversion (how detrimental that would actually be would need to be discussed anyway cause it might be negligible but, not the point); using the matrix you avoid exactly that because of the AVB system, you can route any signal to anything and even mult it without any additional adda round trip. You just need to make sure (with pro tools) you exit the daw and go back in the same I/O, what happens in the middle, stays in the matrix
@@mixbustv Thanks for the reply! I though that AVB routing occurred in the digital domain (packets of samples) and therefore there'd be conversion every time it left out returned an interface on the network. I'd really like to be wrong though... Or just have the latency and conversion of these devices be so good that it doesn't matter. The system seems so flexible and I'm overdue for an upgrade.
@@exhumus it actually stays in the analog domain (if you go from one out to an in and so on, just like you would with a bay :) but the concept is the same, no additional conversion, and remember you can route between interfaces too
Hi Dave, thanks a lot for the Review. Are you using using a Power conditioner with your Gear?
Yes 2
Have a motu 828es. Next will be a 16a. I am so happy I picked motu. I had a feeling after my research that I had a good interface. Very happy..
do u still use it? have u added a 16a? i just got 828es, figured i could expand it either with 828pre or 16a...
Great video brotha. I've had a bad taste in my mouth from the 828 series but these devices seem to be rock solid.
Well the old legacy MOTU hardware worked better if you had a 400 Firewite Texas Instrument PCIE card on Windows, other than that motus hardware has always been rock solid esp on Macs. Hit maker Mike elizondo that was under Dr. Dre's wing owned two 828 Mkiis and two Midi Time pieces in his Studio from Motu. The modern MOTU avb stuff is even better especially on Windows.
🎹 First; thank you for your detailed input. Sad that no mention of compatibility with Logic Pro X when an iMac was being used in the video to control the 16A. 😂
Hi D ! This looks great ! What about the drivers on win 10? I use Rme raydat and Aio and never had driver problems what about Motu? Roundtrip latency? Keep on Rockin !!
I had RME, still have a couple of cards that I don't use, never had a problem with MOTU drivers, and latency is best in class. And I had the 8pre es for more than a year, ran in on desktop W7 and laptop W10, USB and TB, never a problem.
@@mixbustv great news !! Thank you for your reply !!🙏
1t thank you for all you do. One Q: Do you regularly use the Preamps in the 8PreES? Any opinions? Thank you! Ian
They're great but I don't use em, simply because I don't track anything other than vocals and for that I have a 512c or a 1073
Thanx for the vid, good explaining. How good are DSP FX ? I am fighting the 16A vs Allen & Heath Qu Pac, which has awesome Compression, EQ and ultranoisefree Audio Quality, but don't know exactly how this hybrid USB Interface DAW USB Return shit is working in context regarding the latency when using CPU hungry VST FX and Synths as well as my Analogue HW Synths and Modular Eurorack.....You can also buy a Behringer X32 Rack for 30% less money at the moment.....,)
Great interfaces. Any chance on doing a video how you do your routing using the digital motu patchpannel? I already own a 8pre-es and I'm thinking about expanding my setup with a 16A to hook up my external gear.
I actually am, if you follow on IG, I posted a couple of clips announcing it because of my new mastering converter. But my system is a lot more complicated than just one expansion
YESSIR
This single device will replace 4 units in my rack : Apogee 16 AD, Apogee 16 DA, Lucid clock, and MOTU LP32 ADAT to USB interface. I addition to that AVB and ADAT ports add connections to current devices I own. I can track/mix through my vintage analog console and set up studio monitor mixes in my Presonus digital mixer via AVAB. Endless options and conveinance here.
Selling the Apogee units will pay for it. No brainer!
Thx for the video David, the 16A is basically all I need, but it’s already got a few years on it’s back, do you still recommend it?
Absolutely, you should actually trust more a company that *doesn't* change model every year as opposed to those who can magically improve what was their "best ever" 8 months prior the new model
@@mixbustv thanks for the quick reply, makes sense!
Great video dude! Some people scoff at the idea of using MOTU for mastering, but I’ve read on Gearslutz the 16A sounds as good or better than some Prism converters. They even had graphs to back up their claims.
How have you been getting on with the 16A since you got it? I’m thinking of getting one myself. Either that or a used Antelope Orion 32.
I love MOTU, and I trust a company that doesn't change their model every 5 minutes you know? I have a dangerous AD+ for mastering, but all my outboard goes thru MOTU
AVB has become a HUGE gamechanner. my consoles all use avb so I get 64 channels in and out. but man the motu quality is so high for the price it is not just a good deal but its something that can last you for years.
Absolutely 👍 that's why they don't change models every other month
@@mixbustv i might need to pick one or two of these up the idea of not needing a patchbay seems amazing
@@IntheDAW and it really is as amazing as it seems
I am getting the motu 828es and now I've been seeing videos on the motu just crashing . I see you use motu in your studio and it looks great.
Do you ever have problems with this unit.
What do you feel about the thunderbolt 2/ USB port ? I wouldn’t doubt a upgrade to thunderbolt 3. But I have Apollo TB3 and if I buy this I’d be going to TB2 with adapters all over the damn place . Unless I just use the usb .
So whats your opinion on thunderbolt or usb. ?
Hi David, i love your videos, very helpfull. I have a question. I was just going to buy SSL like yours (AX?) and then i seen this video.
I have Mac Pro 5.1 (no thunderbolt) and i have usb, firewire and network on it. Can i use network to connect this converter to my Mac Pro or it only works with new computers with thunderbolt. How did you connect your MOTU (8 pre es) to computer (what computer are you running)
Thanx :-)
You can connect it with TB or USB, the AVB (Cat5) is for daisychain multiple units. I use the 8pre via USB, used it via TB on my laptop
MixbusTv hm so im stuck with usb cause of my mac pro 5.1 no thunderbolt possibillity.
How it is on usb? Maybe ssl alpha is a better solution for me ?
Do you give some private counceling and advices about setting up home studio?
@@elvissrsen I'd be curious too to hear how the MOTU 112 compares sonically with the SSL that you replaced it with. I'm stuck deciding between the two.
you say you have now lost the patchbay. can you however chain gear together easily in the digital console? Can you for example run 2 compressors on a track one into another like you can easily in an analogue patchbay? i can see the great example of inserting 1x analogue. also, are you summing back out when you bounce your mix to stereo. I noticed with the apollo gear for example they encourage this type of workflow but MOTU dont seem to mention much about summing back out.
Hi, MixbusTv. Thanks for your video. As usual, interesting and informative. I have a Question, I hope you don't mind? : I use an old interface. Had it from new, around 2013. The Motu 2408 Mk3. It has served me great over the years. My Question? Do you think I would get better quality sound by upgrading to a modern, up to date Audio Interface?
Definitely, the new AVB system is amazing
@@mixbustv Greetings and thanks for your reply. I know you check for this AVB Network System. It seems so technical. But yet you simplify it in the video. I will look into it further. Once again, thanks, Man. Best wishes.
Hi, nice new unit!A question:you are recording at 48khz?
Yes
@@mixbustv you are God...have you done a video about this madness.or do one!
Hello there, my question is, are the headphone output on the Motu interfaces powerful enough? right now i have a focusrite scarlett 8i6 3rd gen and the headphone outs dont drive my Beyerdynamic DT770 studio (80 ohms) loud enough. i want the DT880, but if it struggles with 80ohms, it would be worse with 250.
Great great video. I think you just gave me an affordable option to my big problem. I would like to upgrade my ProTools software but in order to do that I have to upgrade both of my 192 interface and my computer at the same time. The Motu seems like an affordable option.
Can you please confirm if you feel that the Motu converters are better than the 192?
Thank you for your work
192 as in avid/digi? Oh hell yeah ahaha light years better
@@mixbustv That's what I imagined! Thank you so much for helping me with my decision ! I enjoy the show! Keep it safe you'll hear of me again.
Da@, this dude got it good, now what are you going to do with the SSL converter?
selling it
question, the apollo x8 or x6 is basically a preamp and A/D D/A convertor? cause i thought that an audio interface like the apollo is needed but if i get outboard gear if i get an A/D convertor the signal goes from the outboard gear to the A/D and then into pro tools, and a D/A to send the signal from pro tools to the outboard gear
Interfaces are all-in-one solutions, if you're not mixing professionally, today the quality of them is more than enough. Usually, what you need with an interface is basically x amount of preamps for recording, ADDA conversion and a more or less comprehensive monitoring section. With a dedicated ADDA, you will need all the other things separately, preamps, and monitor controller. if you don't record but mix only, then you don't need preamps, or maybe one or two only
Hi David, thanks so much for your insides, I appreciate it!
One question bout the routing possibilities:
You said the internal routing can replace a Patchbay. Does that mean you can choose external Comp A as the first insert into a track, external EQ B as the second and vice versa without changing any cabling?
And is that kind of routing possible with the 8pre es alone or do you need the 16 A for that?
Thanks and enjoy your morning coffee 😎
Regards from Oceanside
Thorsten
Not quite, you'd need the Flock for something like that. Here, once you have multiple hw each one connected to a channel, you can send one to another etc.. but you are still gonna do multiple adda trip
@@mixbustv Thanks! Anyway, the 16A is fantastic device and possibilities. One last question: Has the 8pre es the same routing possibilities as the 16A? Cheers
hey David, in protools can you insert a software plugin after a hardware unit? in reaper i can use a softplugin before but not after unless i print or rearoute the audio
Yes you can mix and match as much as you want
Hi David, thank you for the review...if you have a small analog setup for mixing using no more than 8-16 channels, would you still need an ad converter if using one of these Motu interfaces?
Well, need? No, would a mastering AD better to capture? Yes
What happened to the SSL Converters? Are you not using them anymore and if not, why?
So, you don’t you an external ADDA converter apart from the interface now right?
You could add a presonus 32 series iii to that via avb and run the series iii hardware emulations . That would be a good review video
i owned both units, the SL32III and the 16A have VERY similar results sonically. It was VERY difficult to tell a difference. In the end, I found that the MOTU had slightly better hi-end definition, while the SL had slightly better low end. This was assessed via varied material, different monitors...of course, sound is subjective at best!
Would be curious to hear of others who have had experience with the Presonus SLiii series vs. other converters.
I use to live near Canoga Park, I didn't know ur from L.A
I'll check out it this place. My goodness, I visited my friend in Canoga Park and didn't even know Westlake Audio is there. I soo embarrassed
They moved few months ago
How's the latency? Would it be possible to test on a PC using the USB connection?
Specs for latency are listed, best in class with their drivers
OK !!! One day, David, i will have to ask you some advice on my configuration ! Connections are surely the worst for me .Look like i m facing problem likes here. And headache for sure... :-D
and it seems you don't have a mix table ( hardware) .
Awesome Vid. im so angry that i am just now finding out about these interfaces😒
If I have a Mackie 32 . 8 Bus analog mixing board, what would be your choice (best bang for the buck)? I was thinking about getting the Arturia AudioFuse 8Pre interface, but I don't want to have to buy 3-4 units to cover 24 to 32 channels. I like that quality though.
Quality of the Arturia you mean? Arturia it's great, MOTU is a bit better. If you want all 32 channels I'd probably go with an 8pre ES and 24I/O
@@mixbustv Thank you. I've heard great things about MOTU. I had also read about the RME babyface Pro and the Antelope Audio Zen Tour. If channels are limited on a unit, but the quality is high, I could deal with that at first. I could just add to it a little at a time until I cover all 32 channels. If the Steinberg UR824 could maintain support, that might be another great addition. For now, the Motu sounds great though!
I use motu 24io and 824
is it possible to use ADAT inputs on both connected Motu's for even more expand ?
Yes
yes you can
That is the one I have. Did you think about Antelope Goliat?
never tried, I know some people have issues with the drivers
@@mixbustv I have the Orion 32HD....never had any issues with the drivers. All the Antelope interfaces use the same driver. One thing that people do wrong and they have issues with the drivers is that they connect it to whatever USB port on their computer. I discovered that if you connect it to a USB port straight on the motherboard, not on a hub and you allow it to have it's own PCIe lane, you will never have any issues with the drivers. So this thing with Antelope drivers issues is a hoax. As far as routing....Antelope's matrix is just amazing. Converters quality...mastering grade, I switched from UA Apollo and I can't be happier. Plus now I have 32 ins, 32 outs, beat that...lol. Before I switched to Antelope I checked so many other interfaces...Merging Technologies HAPI-to expensive per channel count, but sounds amazing, Lynx Aurora N-very nice sounding, but lower dynamic range, Apogee Symphony MKII-good sound, not on my taste. As soon as I heard the Antelope Orion 32HD, I was that's it, this is it, right on the spot. I'm not saying MOTU is inferior or something, but you should really try some Antelope Audio converters. Cheers!
Hi, I have a question. I see you replaced the patchbay, so lets say we want to Daysi chain hardware. If we do it directly in protools as inserts wouldn't that mean that on every insert there would be a DA/AD conversion? Wouldn't keeping the patchbay make more sense as we can daysi chain several devices after the DA conversion and do the AD conversion at the very end of the chain thus avoiding in and out of protools after every insert?
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Can you group and control the levels on your analog outs (your 5.1 outs) using the Main or Mon knob on the front panel?
yes
Great video, but won't you want your instruments/vocals to hit your outboard preamp and compressors before hitting the MOTO gain stage and digital converters? The way your hooking it up with get the Preamp sound of the MOTO before going to your outboard gear.
The way I hook it up is the ONLY way to hook it up and no, you don't get anything from the MOTU because it has line level input, the 16A doesn't even have preamps at all and the 8pre has combo jack so it recognizes the line level input because you're inserting a 1/4" jack and not a mic cable. I'm not sure how you think the signal path is but it's pretty simple,
recording: mic, (external) pre, interface, DAW. Simple AD conversion
Mixing and mastering DAW, DA, outboard, AD, DAW.
That's it there's no other way
MixbusTv I stand corrected. Your routing would keep the chain taking full advantage of your pres and comps before the converters. I have another adat set of pre/line levels to give this a try. I have been trying to find a way to automate my patch bay and this is really helpful. Your making some great videos with thorough explanations. Kudos!
Can you review the ultralite mk5 and compare it's sound quality to your 16 a and 8pre-es. It's newer technology
It's the same
I have a very specific question about routing. Do I get multiple stereo line output playback devices and Input recording devices in windows? And: Can you route the line outs back into line ins?
You get 8 stereo because it's a 16ch unit. And of course, that's how you use hardware for mixing, with hardware inserts
Do you have any idea how the converters in the 16A compare with those in the 24AI/24AO? I'm probably going to upgrade to a Motu 828es and some extra i/o for the synth rig/hybrid mixing rig I'm starting to set up. Just trying my luck here!
I don't have direct experience with the 24 but I think it's the same if it's AVB is the same
I believe there is a slight difference, I think that was the conclusion I came to last time I was looking into it - I have the ultralite AVB and was thinking about getting the 24i to give me nore inputs.
Awesome! I was looking at Motu for my upgrade. But 16A only offers 16 channels I/O... you have already 20 compressors; How do you connect all your other gear?
I have 2 of em and I also have another 8ch from the 8pre ES. I have a total of 32 analog I/O
MixbusTv David What analog EQs do you have and how do you use them? (I know you have the 1974 and Prometheus). And for your other channels do you use plugins?
@@harrynak22 I have a new mastering eq coming on Thursday, and other than the ones you mentioned I have the Violet EQ on the Fusion.
The 74 is on my 2bus and so is the Violet, sometimes I use one or the other, sometimes both, never the low end of the Violet, too broad for 2bus. Prometheus is usually on vocals and bass one channel each. The rest is plugins yes, G Channel and proq3 for general purpose, API 550B, sieq, Kramer, Veq4 for color, these for static eq. Don't know what I'm gonna do with the new one.
MixbusTv thanks a lot for your info. I thought you had Prometheus on your 2bus (with Dione)? I’m curious about your new mastering eq!
How do you use the ssl fusion mainly? It looks like a pretty complete 2bus solution.
Hi David! Im planning to get something like this. Do you still recommend this or have you upgraded to another gear?
Nope, I actually have 3 of em now
what do you plug your headphones into? since there is no headphone jacks on the Motu16A. Any recommendations for good monitor controller with dual headphone jacks
I have 8PRE es, 16A, Dangerous Ad+ and Arturia 8pre and my Drawmer MCI 3.1 controller.
HP are plugged in the Drawmer of course because of the mixing matrix
Do you still use this interface and expansion?
I didn't know you use Motu at all. I just picked up the 828es and learning about the whole AVB, Cat5 connection etc.
Yes I have 2 MOTU, an Audiofuse and Dangerous mastering converters, all routed via MOTU matric and PatchLT
Is it possible to use this as audio interface too in cubase like i do with my ssl alphalink you have before ?
Yes but keep in mind this is meant to be an expansion, so you don't have pres, you don't have monitor controller section.
I have questions and need opinions guys::
So my main interface is an RME Fireface UFX+ connected with an ADI-2 Pro Fs (for the main monitoring / conversion / Headphone amp..).
I actually need more line ins/outs for my analog gear (Great River MP-2 NV, API Audio 3124V, SSL Fusion, Drawmer 1978, 2x Distressor, Drawmer 1973, Heritage Audio Symph EQ, Drawmer 1974).
No pre amps - no conversion needed as i prefer RME's conversion better.. especialy the DAC's..
I prefer the rme's software as well.
Mixers are not been used in my case.. only daw controllers..
So... the question is.. can i include a 16A into my chain, while bypassing it's AD/DA altogether??
OR Is there a better solution to my situation that i can't think of?
Feel free to guide me people!
Cheerz!
Hi David, what is your experience with different sample rates /48-96 with this interface (or Motu in general)? Thx!
The biggest difference is from 44 to 48, with diminished return at 88, anything over that is overkill and borderline useless unless you're recording classical orchestra and your recording chain is beyond most people (and studios) budget, and even then..
How good are the SSL converters? Are you selling it?
They're great, I had 2 of those units for quite a while and mixed tons of records on them and yes I'm selling the one that I had left
Hello !! Thank for this vidéo ! So, how much latency do you have with this baby ?
Latency depends on your computer and drivers, these have the lowest latency on the market (given the computer is there)
@@mixbustv thx uso much ! I need this soundcard
Hi David, I wonder is the digital patch bay the same as physical patch bay? By daisy chaining two outboard gear digitally inside of the matrix of the interface, conversion will happen 4 times right? However, physical patch bay only twice.
Not the same, it can't be, the signal has to pass inside the unit then rerouted, and with the digital bay it has to be reconverted.
@@mixbustv Thanks David. I thought so too. But how come that you don't use patch bay anymore. You do the patching now only digitally? Then more conversion will happen, isn't it harmful for the audio?
David in another video you talked about the 8pre Es. What about the 828es? I no know is less expensive and has less mic preamps and outputs. But do they still have the same built and sound quality?
Same
@@mixbustv thank you for always replying to my questions.
Oye amigo casi la compró pero y la alimentación fantasma como lo hago soy baterista
What is the main difference between 8pre ES and 828 Es ? num ber of mic pre ? thinking about switching from Focusrite clarett to Motu for more I/o. Thank you!
Yep, # of pres only
hey man great video, do you know if the 16a can be used as a stand alone interface?, I use a old mixer and I literally just want a converter to take 16in/16out of the computer back to the mixer and this seams to be the best option.
yes it can
Hey! one quick question, I have a focusrite 828 preamp right now, and am thinking of buying two Motu 8M because the preamps, but I dont know if it would be better to get the 16A and another 8 channel preamp. It would be great to know your opinion. Cheers!
Not sure if you'll see this, I don't have any experience with any of these, but I would say, if your budget allows, get the 16A and another 8 channel preamp. This way you can have a couple different tonalities of preamp when recording. That is my opinion, I hope that was helpful.
@@jackehlers2072 Hey thank you very much!!!
@@ozmartinez8263 No problem, glad to help!
Hey dave,can you recommend me what the best audio interface under $600 ?especially for the clean converter.
Depends how many channels you need, Motu or Arturia would be where to look
@@mixbustv i dont need many input..my priority is a Converter and preamp
@@deltarizkia3492 then MOTU M4, if you want to expand in the future, Ultralite Mk III (or whatever is the last one)
@@mixbustv ok thanks dave..my target is between Motu M4 and SSL 2+
@@deltarizkia3492 No contest
Is possible recording in Protools and utilize the trim "pré" for motu????
Not sure what you're asking here, if you're recording, you set the gain yourself in the first place, the only reason why you'd need to use the trim in recording would be because you have a too hot of an input, in which case you'd use a pad or just turn the gain down.
The trim for the most part are there to level match channels, for example I use outboard, sometimes one channel can be 1db off and you rebalance, or a unit drops the input by 1 or 2db so you use those for precise A/B with/without the hardware but, in any case, yes you can.
*I run RME and not changing! I have several ADAT i/o ports and need EXPANSION so i can connect all of my external rack effects. Can I use the MOTU 16A as an ADAT I/O EXPANSION so to access the TRS I/O for connection to all my RACK MODULES?*
Yes you can
would you recommend this over the Antelope Audio Orion 32?
Yes or I would use the antelope myself
@@mixbustv I’m under the impression that Antelope has better conversions and clocking than motu. How true is that?
Are you using the motu mixer David? Seems to me that the daw mixer is enough in the studio?
No the motu mixer is not really for mixing, is for tracking IF you want to use their DSP or if you're using DP
The internal routing tho' that's killer
@@mixbustv got it, thanks
Do you still like the sound of the MOTU gear better than the SSL David?
Absolutely
@@mixbustv That's great to hear!
Ciao Dave,
Ti seguo da parecchio tempo. Sono utente Motu da almeno 18 anni. Ho effettuato l'upgrade a 24ai e 24ao ABV via USB2. Ho però riscontrato parecchi clicks e pops nel playback anche a latenze . Secondo la tua esperienza potrebbe essere un problema del protocollo USB? Dalla Motu non riesco ad avere feedback a proposito (ne dagli USA nel dal servizio ITA).
Hai qualche dritta?
Grazie
impossible to say without knowing your system specs and everything else.
How can I send a stereo out as mono to my re-501 with this so I don’t have to use a mixer?
route both outs to a single hard-panned out.
Quick question: Do I need an "analog to digital" converter if I'm only
using vst plugins? I know the DAC is required, but since mixing and
playing in the box are all done digitally, is an ADC really necessary?
Thanks.
no (if you don't record anything)
@@mixbustv Thank you so much! Keep teaching and sharing your experiences with us. You're making a huge difference in the audio/recording education. You Rock!
Will the converters sound better than my Focusrite 8i6?
By a long shot
Hi Dave! Do you know if i can use the moto 16a with amd cpu processor? thank!
Yes you can
You’re liking the Motu converters more than the SSL Alphalink converters?
So you're saying MOTU is an inferior brand when they have been making professional hardware since the 90s? They make high end gear you know. Reminder the HD192? They were once competing with Digidesign since the dawn of digital Audio.
@@musicproducer9952 I’m asking if he finds the MOTU sonically pleasing over the SSL. I wasn’t implying that the MOTU wasn’t good.. I don’t know where you got that from. I have heard good things about the MOTU and I’m currently using the SSL.
@@kylekaliszewski7869 well The SSL Alpha links are obviously dated converters so of course the modern stuff is going to sound better. Anything made in the last 5 or 10 years is going sound better than something made in the early 2000s since converters have came a long ways. And yes and did say he like the MOTUs better. White Sea Studio was one of the first audio pro youtubers to switched to the Motu AVB stuff that came from an early 2000s Apogee Rosetta.
How can I synchronize my drum machines and analogs with this if there is no midi in/out? Can I use world clock for this but if so how? I always used midi for that.
Just use any simple and cheap USB to MIDI interface...
Is there a difference in conversion quality in this one vs the 828es ?
Hiphop Rapper here ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Nope
i have an old yamaha 01v96 console. Can this interface convert with her via ADAT cable and back via USB?
It has 2 banks of ADAT, you can send the signal from the Yamaha via ADAT to it. But the conversion is still gonna happen in the Yamaha, you're sending a digital signal.
All of that I/O is making me drool! I'm to the point now where my outboard is surpassing my analog outputs and I have to print things separately but can't hear it all together until the end and if somethings not perfect I gotta do it again to tweak. This is no way to work I tell you.
Oh no it is not. But don't worry, once you buy this you'll ran out again. That's why I have 4 lol
Sorry but quick question about 16A. Can you go out and in from hardware to hardwae using the patching or does it convert every time? is that why you have the flock?@@mixbustv