The real whodunit was figuring out who hired the detective. That was the whole point. Because the person who hired him knew it was a “murder”, and therefore had an insight on his death that nobody else did.
Every Columbo episode literally starts off with the audience knowing who the killer is. I didn't mind the film revealing what happened in the first act.
I loved it. The revelation at the end of the fist act was interesting and got me more invested. The real mystery of the film was who hired dedective Blanc and why. The twist at the end worked for me quite a bit. Ana DeArmas is my crush at the moment so it's great to see her get a meaty role front and center. 9/10
You always knew who did it on Columbo. The fun was seeing him figure it out. Look up "Inverted detective story". If you are going to make your argument based on your love of another property, maybe actually remember what that property was.
It all has to do with the pacing. This is a 2-hour-long movie. The first act was too fast with the detective alliminating all the other suspects. The second act was draged out since we thought we knew who did it and the detective was kinda dumb. And the 3rd act was too fast because we learned that she had not been the only one responsible but the also the other guy in a span of 5 minutes. Rian Johnson literrally invented a new problem in the 3rd act and then solved it immediately. It kinda sad actually because the movie has all the good stuff that just need to be rearrange in a different way and it would be a fantastic murder. mystery.
this movie was terrible. she would still go to jail for covering up the crime. and the grandma would not be a realiable witness becuase she confuse the lady for the grandson. that family was trash all of them even meg. it was always a suicide. grandson goes to jail for the murder of the maid not the Harlan.
Watching Alex act all smug about calling out a plothole that doesn't even exist, all because he fundamentally misunderstood the reveals at the end of the movie is so beyond frustrating. 🤦
He says it’s a garbage whodunit but a good movie? Like what lmfao how does that make sense if the whodunit story is garbage then the movie would be garbage but he’s calling it a good movie?
@@RobotGman it has good characters, good acting, good cinematography and good score. But in the end the story itself was kinda meh. Revealing the crime early kinda messed up the movie and the tension. They should have played more with how the other family members could have killed the old man.
@@YumiSumire I think it built tension during the investigation because we didn't want Marta to get captured. I think it's a great subversion in terms of story crafting and arrangement. So there was a purpose in telling you who the "killer" is and sets up a satisfying pay off. It had clues which can be revisited which would lead you to the answer. Great movie even if he made Star Wars.
@@jojo_n_dat7325 I get that. But the mystery kinda stopped when it was revealed that she's seemingly the killer and the tension wasn't really there until the car chase scene. Meanwhile the tension then became would she give the money to the family for like solid 30 minutes. Which is not what a whodunnit movie should be about.
My score is 8/10, My only complaint is that I wished we spent more time with the characters and character relationships. I absolutely loved how every tiny detail connected.
He calls Daniel Craig only after he finds out the he didn’t die from the over dose but instead slit his own throat !! He needed Marta to get the blame so she wouldn’t get the inheritance 👍
@@endresebok8272 I'm guessing he heard the son talking about how he was still alive 15 minutes after the caretaker left. He probably knew how long it should take to kill him and since it didn't add up plus they found him dead, he thought something didn't go as planned and hired the detective to find out what happened.
@@massojupiter3436 old comment ik, but no. The housekeeper saw him sneak in to the crime scene during the funeral and she had her friend at the medical examiners give her the tox screen results from the autopsy which she sent to him in an email trying to threaten him. Thats when he realized that Marta the Nurse/caregiver wouldn't be accused on that alone so he instead cut out the part with the results and sent part of it to Marta in a new email so she would show up to the blackmail site and find the maid's body and once the cops found her and the evidence there he planned on her going down for that and her being implicated in the old man's death so she would lose her rights to the inheritance. Since he burned down the examiners office there would be no proof he thought of the tox screen not being positive for an OD and he figured her not being able to lie without puking and her good nature would mean she'd cave and say she switched the vials.
@@SOADVSSOAD I'm sorry, but if you think telling people to die, even jokingly, is okay, especially because of something as trivial as not liking a movie, then you're an asshole. The fact that two years later Joe is still butthurt because he didn't get the wish-fulfillment power fantasy he wanted is just pathetic.
@@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303 the fact that you don't realize saying things like that, even as a joke, normalizes toxic behaviour, and that you find Joe entertaining and/or insightful shows that you're probably a sheltered, immature child.
I found the ranting at 15:28 SO funny. We honestly should make this a meme whenever talking about anything Rian-but-not-TLJ related where we just randomly and angrily rant about the Last Jedi in the middle of talking about his other project lol
Sadly Rian Johnson does the same.. about the fact he wants to stay in Star Wars( his new movie just out, but what about another Star Wars, please). So people angrily rants are best.
Any movie has to make sense in its own rules. I think it's an unique movie, but could have been better if they'd just rearranged some reveals. Missed opportunity.
@@memali2939 i'd like the detective and the cops to do more theories earlier on. And they get wrong one by one. That would make the movie more interesting for me. Instead they just beginning with the detective seemingly knowing everything. Like, "Look, he's smart" And then him being dumb for the rest of the movie until the final scene.
No, you (naturally) wrong, Alex is right. He hired the detective the next day, when the newspaper article read "suicide". The blackmail (report) was later. And you other idiots: Alex is right. The medical examanation would reveal the overdose. Now, would Ransom know that there is always such an examanation conducted? If he knew to take the "antidote" (and which one that was), yes he could have.
@@endresebok8272 even if the report was revealed to the police, they would most likely rule it out to be a part of the suicide. He sliced his throat, maybe used morphine to not feel pain.
Columbo was universally a "Howdunnit", the murder and the murderer were always known at the jump. The show was about Columbo unraveling the mystery and piecing it all together.
The reason Ransom hired the detective is because the old man killed himself, instead of dying from the medicinal mix up, and he wanted to make sure that there was an investigation, including a toxicology report, instead of being dismissed as a suicide.
Wouldn't the medical reports say he would have an unusual amount of morphine in his body anyway. It seems like calling the Dectective was just unnecessary. If you killed someone and tried to make it look like an accident.
@@trigunfox2325 No. 1) The detectives were ALREADY labeling it as a suicide. and 2) Ransome saw that the news had already labeled it a Suicide and he was already being buried, he haad to act fast cause he knew the nurse would get everything. 3) there wasn't an actual overdose so there wasn't anything that would have been reported 4) it wasn't a murder staged to look like a suicide, it was a suicide done under false pretenses.
@@trigunfox2325 A lot of times with elderly people that are in poor health they don't do those tests because they're expensive and time consuming. And especially if it's obvious the person killed themselves with a knife, it's unlikely they do those tests. But maybe
It turns from a 'who done it' to a 'how do i get out of it before he figures it out' and then into a 'you didnt know who done it after all'. I loved it.
If you wanna watch a really good Whodunnit (or rather: a really good parody of the genre), go watch "Murder by Death" from 1976. Great cast (Truman Capote, Peter Falk, Alec Guinness, David Niven, Peter Sellers, Maggie Smith, et al), great humor, very enjoyable 95 minutes of murder mystery.
Yes. Murder by Death is in my top ten list of favorite comedies. Peter Sellers stole the entire show (but yet, everyone was *so* good). Sellers was a comedic genius. It's a shame he died so young. Alec Guiness as the Butler was one of the film's *many* highlights. Speaking of Guiness and Sellers: the original Ladykillers is worth checking out. It's an utter masterpiece.
I would also add any Argento Giallo film like deep red, 4 flies on grey velvet, tenebre, or his more supernatural films like Inferno or Suspiria are good ones. I liked Murder by death tho.
Yeah, that was the genius of Columbo; you weren’t watching a “whodunnit,” you were watching a chess game play out, with the hook coming more from watching *how* Columbo puts all the pieces of the puzzle together.
This movie in an nutshell: Beginning: It's a who done it movie Early on: Ok, it's not a who done it movie Final act: Oh wait, IT IS A WHO DONE IT MOVIE!
Spoilers... No, he hired the detective to reveal that it was the nurse, making the will null and void. That way he’d get a cut if she’s eventually charged with the crime. The fact that the older man slit his throat was an unexpected occurrence, he was banking on the toxicology report.
@@leoneljaramillo6710spoilers that's what i meant. The culprit wouldn't have gotten anything if the death was ruled as a suicide. Hence the hiring of Detective Bond was to reveal the death as foul play caused by the one in the will. I think Alex just didn't catch that part of the story we're pointing out
Rex Josef Calmerin yeah, what I’m saying is that he hired the detective after they found him. He didn’t do it after they assumed it was a suicide, he was gonna hire him regardless. I’m I making sense? Also I only saw it once, and it was convoluted, so maybe I got the timeline wrong.
Leonel Jaramillo he wasnt going to hire him regardless though. The news would have reported him dying and after a toxicology report it would have shown a morphine overdose, obviously pointing to marta, (if it went according to his plan), but the news already was pushing that it was a suicide because he was found with a slit throat and that he was going to be buried soon, so he hired the detective to try and reveal the foul play at hand.
@Late Night Gaming Enjoying a movie does not make it a good movie. TLJ is a bad movie going by many objective metrics. You can enjoy it but what TLJ has done to the franchise is simply bad.
@Darkness1984 What TLJ did to the narrative was worse. What TLJ did to the franchise was worse. The basic structure of the story of TLJ was worse. Episode 1 isn’t great, it’s not TLJ though.
Angry Joe needs to do a follow-up videos for the reviews just so his friend can apologize for misunderstanding the movie and completely missing the point
You should do a follow-up reply and apology when you realize that the plot doesn't make sense. But who am I kidding? You are an idiot and you will be one.
@@endresebok8272 They needed to pay closer attention I don't know how all three missed the important details. Chris Evans character only hires the investigator after the death was ruled a suicide. It was ruled a suicide because the nurse in fact injected the correct medication at the correct dosage, because of the slight difference in weight of the two medications. She subconsciously knew which medication was which without looking. Watch the ending again the investigator explains all of it.
@@JRxxx Wrong comment?! Anywho: that's not correct. He hired the investigator after the newspaper article about suicide. We don't know if the investigation was officially over at that point (propably not).
@@endresebok8272 Considering He is family and the police released the body for a funeral, I'm assuming he was told it was ruled a suicide in combination with the news paper. Maybe he saw the paper then called and confirmed they ruled it a suicide. But hey man if you didn't like it, you didn't like it.
@@JRxxx The medical test takes a while, and they can exhumate (?) the body if they really need... And it's not about liking or not, but about plotholes, lazy writing, stupid charachters (Fran). The fingerprints of Rian Johnson.
Do they even Columbo ? For someone whose main complain is "mystery is revealed too early and dumbass detective doesn't even get it" but detective knew about her involvement from the moment he saw her and was provoking her the whole time. Also, "the mystery" was not "revealed too early" because it was not the actual mystery.
3:48 - The Catalyst: "I think your EXPECTATIONS are in the wrong place." 3:51 - The Seed: Joe's mind is churning a thousand miles a minute with the trigger word. 3:54 - The Hatch: Joe has it... he looks into the camera to cue the audience that he is ready. 3:56 - The Delivery: "Would you say that he SUBVERTED your traditional 'whodunit' EXPECTATIONS?" 4:05 - The Cackle: I got nothin' lol.
I actually really liked this film! Last Jedi aside, he should really focus on making these types of movies instead of making other stuff for established franchises that don't fit his style.
I'm black but I hate racism in general. Why it's not illegal like it is in the USA army makes no sense. Before someone says free speech 1 hate speech isn't free. 2 what about free speech in the army?
@@jello788 hate speech is free speech. Despite how dispicable I think it is. Supreme Court has already ruled on it. And it's not allowed in the army so that our men and women fighting for our freedoms are the most leathal and capable they can be. They need to have trust in there fellow man and you can't have any room for racism when you fight along side another.
Aberrations Abattoir She’s from a Latin country (they don’t say but the actress is from Cuba so I’m going with that) and they think all Latinas are brown, even though countries like Chile, Cuba and Argentina are mostly filled with whites (why do you think Nazis fled to Argentina?).
@@jello788Why isn't racism illegal? Whether you like it or not that falls under free speech which is protected by the United States Constitution and second hate speech is free speech.
The tox report hadn't even been finished at that point. He brought in the detective before they even had a chance to show whether or not he had been poisoned.
@@rocketsurgeon6442 not really so cut and dry. He brings them on, asks for their numbers. If it was just him talking about it alone in front of the camera it would be another matter. I think it would be fun if OJ and Alex got their own distinct sound effects from the AJ version when they give their rating.
I like that AJ gives the final verdict..it's his show...if you didn't like the film as much nothing stops you from agreeing with OJ or A. Also remember that their rating is bad, below average, average, above average, & excellent......SOOO all 3 of them felt this was in the "above average" range.....just AJ liked it the most this time.
LMFAO at 15:27. That was funny, but let's be honest, Johnson's problem is he needs to stay in his lane. Star Wars isn't his wheelhouse, and his other films are pretty solid. Knives Out is great entertainment, and he deserves better than a bunch of Star Wars fans unfairly criticizing good work because they are butthurt over a franchise that died long ago, well before Disney ever got their hands on it. The original trilogy was gold, but the moment Jar Jar Binks was first introduced, i knew Star Wars would never be the same again. The blame for that goes to George Lucas himself.
Star Wars 1 to 6 are kid movies. I watched ep 4 when I was about 4 or 5 and I loved them better than any other movie. Ep 1 came out in my childhood and it is my 4th favourite Star Wars movie. Qui-Gon Jin is cooler than Obi-Wan Kenobi in my book and that is a big word, because Obi-Wan is amazing and I think Jar Jar Binks is pretty cool. Ep 2 is boring and ep 3 has such a horrible sword fight scene that I just cannot take it seriously. So I rate ep 1 highet than 2 and 3. *The original (english) version is very bad, because of the voices of the actors. Lucas picked the perfect actors, but he did not picked the perfect voice with them. Anakin and Jar Jar in the og dub are annoying, but if you watch any foreign dubs they are better than the original one. I love all 6 of the Star Wars movies, plus the holiday special and I did not consider the frenchise dead before disney ruined it. So please do not speak/write in my name.
@@samcohen99 It murdered itself, when you create a franchise romantizing Global communism via depicting namesakes of the old Holy Roman empire monarchs of eastern europe, (Emperor was the european king of kings) for e.g, the franchise is clearly a Marxist an attempt to depict any part of human history Marxists consider imperialist/Monarchic etc) you build an entertainment franchise off dishonest intentions. Then when a for profit company buy the rights with the intention of making money by beating a dead horse...you have a recipe for failure.
As someone who sometimes skipped to the end of murder mystery novels to find out who the killer was, _I was thrilled when they 'kind of' told us who the killer was in the beginning_
Lol I liked that "Rian Johnson Star Wars" joke at the beginning because I thought that was horrible for a Star Wars movie, but when he kept bringing it up again, I was like dude, get over it, that was two years ago and this is a completely different movie.
Am I the only one that feels the film was ruined by the fact that they specifically mention Anna's character is an experienced nurse? **Spoilers** If she was an experienced nurse, she should have noticed that the morphine wasn't affecting him after she had injected over 6 min earlier. It was intravenous, as a nurse who had administered the meds multiple times, she should have noticed immediately that he wasn't being affected by the overdose. I still enjoyed the ride, but that pulled me right out of it.
IDK I'm not going to watch the movie. I liked Looper but even that movie makes no actual sense (time travel never does). Honestly it still blows my mind that RJ was given free reign over SW when he only directed 2-3 movies at the time and some TV episodes....
Seriously. Do people not realize and IV morphine dose way higher than you need would knock you out immediately? Not 5 mins later, not 2 hours later. Immediately
It is actually explained in the movie the part that you were discussing at the end of the video. During the reveal the character's motivation and why they don't do what Alex said they should have is explained. Something doesn't go according to plan, so they had to switch gears and formulate a new course of action. Sorry for the vagueness, but it's a big spoiler and since the spoiler part is now being included at the end of the regular review it's kind of impossible to talk about the movie in the comment section without ruining the movie for someone who just wants to watch the review.
Alex, I also have watched loads of these types of shows and movies (many with my mom and grandma when there were still of this world). I didn't mind the early reveal too much because it is a Columbo-like device. The problem I had was that this was, to me, a waste of a fantastic cast. Every character was a paper-thin stereotype -- laughably so. I kept hoping Rian was going to play with that and show us that at least one or two of them were not what they seemed. No such luck. So, I guess he subverted my expectations by not subverting my expectations. Also, I thought the whole character who cannot lie without puking device was the most ludicrous thing to have in a picture calling itself a mystery. Perfect for a comedy - stupid for a mystery. Lord, that character was so angelic it turned me against her.
Hey Joe, just wanted to touch on your questions about why Ransom called the detective. He included the newspaper clipping about his grandfather's death that said the police were ruling it as a suicide. Maybe he thought they wouldn't even bother to look into the tox report? That's what my wife and I thought.
@@BiggerR10 Because like Alex said they always do that. Listen not just watch! It is a better question if Ransom knew this? Well if he knew the medicines, and which one is the antidote...
A little late to the party here. Just watched it last night, and I gotta say I disagree with the sentiment that the early reveal ruined the tension. For me, it was pretty clear that it was a misdirection right from the reveal scene. At that point, it basically just shifted focus from "Who wielded the knife?" to "Who tampered with the bag?". I thought it was a pretty great movie, all in all. Kept me hooked throughout.
Yup. Obviously they wouldn't tell the critical things in first 20 minutes. You know there's GOTTA be more to this, and THAT is what gets you really invested. As Rian Johnson said, guessing the culprit isn't that much fun, movie is not a crossword puzzle. You have to be invested on the journey itself, not just figuring out the solution, like it's a math quiz. And we do, because Martha is sympathetic character and we root for her.
I hate to use this term but you guys just didn’t get the twist. The first act starts as a traditional whodunnit but the twist is when Benoit blanc flips a coin into to the second act which is when the movie switches genre from a traditional whodunnit to a Hitchcock style suspense drama and has that for the entire second act but then switches back to a traditional whodunnit when blanc has the detective figure it out speech. Personally I think it’s a excellent whodunnit with a perfect example of a plot twist, great cast, brilliant writing and amazing direction. 9/10
I don't agree that the formula was broken at all. Columbo was mentioned as being great and that straight up opened with the murder each time and was just about him getting them to trip up. To me Knives Out felt like a marriage of that Columbo style with the more traditional Agatha Christie end of the spectrum. My only issue with it all was that several characters didn't get much attention, that made me subconsciously start ruling out suspects just because of how much of them the movie gave us. I really enjoyed it otherwise though, and I'd also give it an 8/10. I really hope CSI KFC becomes a series of movies with Daniel Craig returning in that prominent supporting role with a different main cast each time.
This is definitely a Rian Johnson film. 1. Completely misunderstands the point of the movie and destroys it. The big reveal happens about 30 min into the film, this isn't a whodunnit movie at all. 2. Totally contrived events in the story to move the plot along. The nurse just so happens to give the "wrong" medication the same night she was framed, the nurse's car just so happens to not start up to allow Captain America to give her a ride, the nurse for whatever stupid reason spills the beans about the whole story to Captain America when she had no reason to, she could have just got up and left. 3. Critics eat it up, but true fans hate it.
Ransom doesn’t call detective Blanc immediately, but only after he realizes that the cause of Harlan’s death was a slit throat and not a morphine overdose. He didn’t want his death to be just dismissed as a suicide by some provincial detectives, so he needed Blanc to dig deeper and find out it actually was a murder. Also, he must have started doubting what has actually happened on that night, thinking that possibly someone else has murdered Harlan staging it as a suicide, and maybe there was no morphine overdose in the first place. If Marta didn’t give him any medication on that night, his plan of blaming all on her would have fallen completely apart. Given that, at that point, he was the only one who knew they were all left out of the will, he had to act fast by hiring Blanc. That’s why Ransom’s actions actually make a lot of sense to me.
and Chris Evans obviously called the detective once he learned his grandfather had slit his own throat. that wasn't part of his plan so he needed the detective to investigate.
The whole point of the first reveal is to turn the movie from a whodunit into an entirely different genre. It’s almost a prison break film except you have a valid reason to want the protagonist to escape the inevitable. The detective always finds who did it. You know who did it, but you want s/he to not get caught. That’s where the suspense comes from in the second act. This isn’t a whodunit and you guys are reviewing it as one because that’s what you wanted. Not getting what you wanted isn’t a fault of the movie. Sure it was marketed as one, but what else could they have done in the trailer besides market it as one.
I think I’ve finally reached the point where I not only greatly appreciate Alex’s objectivity, but the general fact he hates every movie ever. Mainly because he always has a solid reason WHY he’s not feeling it.
Chris Evans hired the detective because he found out the initial cause of death was his throat was slit and Fran's note and then finding out the toxicology report would show his blood was fine
Well, if you don't like the style of Shamalan, then it is not biased. So if you don't like movies that are flashy, but the story is illogical (=Rian Johnson movies) then no, it is not bised.
I get that the bias is very unreasonable, but he’s making a joke about giving it a 2 because it’s Rian Johnson, but actually giving it an 8 for the quality of the film itself.
I think Rian immediately revealed the 1st few superficial lies from the family to establish the detective prowess of Mr. Blanc. He was able to suss out the lies and determine the truth just as quickly as we learned it.
One of the stupidest things I've heard. The guy doesn't like it because the director said something about the movie in some interview and that is not what is in the movie so he is disappointed. Hey dolt, movies don't work that way. You don't need to listen to directors interviews beforehand to watch the movie. In fact, if watching directors interviews before the movie is needed for watching the movie, than that is what is bad, not the other way around.
Did Alex not get the fact that Ransom called benoit blanc to investigate initially because he realized that marta wasn't going get caught for wrongfully injecting Harland with an Morphine overdose but because the Death initially was going to be ruled a suicide. And because he knew that he framed marta he needed benoit to look deeper into the case.
The one dude just doesn't understand story. His point is making a whodunnit that has all of the typical great moments of a whodunnit but still surprises you with it's ending because the initial "whodunnit" isn't the actual answer. That's how an EXCELLENT storyteller tells an excellent story. You missed it. Just like you missed how well his story is in TLJ.
Even though he directed some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, like Ozymandias (which has been hailed as one of the greatest TV episodes of all time)?
I have a hard time taking the actual Joe serious lately. I actually take OJ and Alex more serious because AJ for some movies has been really easy on some movies for faults that are actually bigger than he wants to admit. It is subjective and what one might see as good another may seem as stupid. Lately I can’t tell if I can trust his opinion and trust more on his co hosts. I’ve agreed more with OJ and Alex than I have with Joe.. This isn’t a hate letter still love you man.
So many angry fanboys who dismiss the film without even watching it cause It's a Rian Johnson movie lmaooo. Dude Rian has made multiple good movies and directed great Breaking Bad epsiodes. Move on already
He ruined star wars and shit on a lot of peoples childhoods. But you know , it's his movie so he does whatever the fuck he wants to watch. Rian , being a Kathleen Kennedy teet sucker , leads me to believe that I dont care for his movies. It's nice that you seem to enjoy it though but try to understand why so many star wars fans hate this guy.
@@liquidtruth7954 he didn't ruin your childhood get over it.. all he did was make a bad movie this has nothing to do with your childhood the original trilogy still exists people really have to grow up
Not only is this a classical who done it it's not the only one I've seen that reveals key points ahead of time. Who done it's dont ALWAYS follow the same formula. It's still a murder mystery by the end.
Dude! You cant call Knives out a "whodunnit," because it shows the other hand halfway through the film. And the big reveal at the end... look, if you didn't see the reveal at the end coming, then I feel like you must have been asleep throughout the film. The whole thing was very heavy handed. That's probably my biggest gripe with the film. It felt more like a Lifetime Original movie to me.
puttingoutenoch problem with rotten tomatoes is that everyone could score a 6/10 and it would get 100%. While I did like the movie (a 7 for me I think) nothing was surprising, I mostly just liked the characters and the dialogue. Then again it seems Americans can’t write murder mysteries for shit from my experience (watching way too many American crime shows and movies). Only the British and some Canadians can write them where the killer isn’t obvious from the get go.
Im pretty sure the director read the ChooseYourOwnAdventure book "Who Killed Harlowe Thrombey?"...It was loosely the same setup where you were a detective that has to find out who the murderer was
With an "open and shut" suicide case such as this one, an autopsy is often skipped. Ransom hires KFC-CSI in order to cast suspicion on the death, which in turn causes the autopsy and toxicology report.
Seriously Rian Johnson did not ruin Star Wars: The Last Jedi in my opinion ... He made the film so amazing and dark... But his other films like Looper and Knives Out I heard was extraordinary.... Yeah I definitely need to see those two!!!
These had to be some of the stupidest criticisms of the movie. I don’t mean the comments about The Last Jedi because those were played as jokes for the most part and didn’t really effect the overall review.
My favorite part is @15:27 haha
Spitting straight factz tho
I love Joe so much right now 😂😂😂 this made my Thanksgiving even better 🍗🍗🍗
hell yeah
I burst out laughing by how off guard it was freaking amazing
Amen
The real whodunit was figuring out who hired the detective. That was the whole point. Because the person who hired him knew it was a “murder”, and therefore had an insight on his death that nobody else did.
Yeah, i think they are coming at it from the wrong angle
i was arguing with my friend and he asked me why hiring a detective when the blood tests will already prove it
Every Columbo episode literally starts off with the audience knowing who the killer is.
I didn't mind the film revealing what happened in the first act.
Runjon in the title normally
Old comment, but they dont really. They mislead you early. Its like a columbo episode where the person they show is actually NOT the killer
I loved it. The revelation at the end of the fist act was interesting and got me more invested. The real mystery of the film was who hired dedective Blanc and why. The twist at the end worked for me quite a bit. Ana DeArmas is my crush at the moment so it's great to see her get a meaty role front and center. 9/10
Relevation lol
@@coreyb1295 hahaha lol. Didn't even catch that. Thanks for pointing it out. 😂
My movie of the year.
@@BiggerR10 understandable
I love the Chekhov's gun when Harlan says "He can't tell a prop from the real thing" while Harlan is holding the knife he uses to kill himself.
we are donut holes inside a donut hole inside another donut
Leonard Munz but what if, the donut whole was in a don’t nut hole, but then it do nut?
So there’s a dome around the planet?
@@jharvey5540 in a sense yes, but more of a field of light.
So a colossal donut with a regular donut in the hole with a munchkin in the regular donut hole.
People laughed soooo hard at that line when I saw it tonight!
It was a whodunit. The mystery wasn’t the murder, the mystery was who hired the detective which I didn’t know until it was revealed.
Alex if he watched Parasite: it was a good movie but the title is parasite and there are no parasite so the immersion is gone.
Lol. Nah, come on!
Not even remotely close to how Alex reviews movies. Try again normie
@@Adog13 bruh you called me a normie you must be cool
@@Grim45459 bruh your replys are bot as fuck you must be a phony
Alex fucking sucks man
You always knew who did it on Columbo. The fun was seeing him figure it out. Look up "Inverted detective story". If you are going to make your argument based on your love of another property, maybe actually remember what that property was.
It all has to do with the pacing. This is a 2-hour-long movie.
The first act was too fast with the detective alliminating all the other suspects.
The second act was draged out since we thought we knew who did it and the detective was kinda dumb.
And the 3rd act was too fast because we learned that she had not been the only one responsible but the also the other guy in a span of 5 minutes. Rian Johnson literrally invented a new problem in the 3rd act and then solved it immediately.
It kinda sad actually because the movie has all the good stuff that just need to be rearrange in a different way and it would be a fantastic murder. mystery.
That annoyed the hell out of me. Alex kept mentioning Columbo, not realizing that Knives Out followed the inverted style Columbo has always used.
this movie was terrible. she would still go to jail for covering up the crime. and the grandma would not be a realiable witness becuase she confuse the lady for the grandson. that family was trash all of them even meg. it was always a suicide. grandson goes to jail for the murder of the maid not the Harlan.
tensix tag there was no crime on her part tho, at the end of the day she administered the right drug. Maybe she’s guilty of breaking in if anything
@@Bizzybanks24 obstruction of an investigation is a crime, though.
The “stabbing” portion had me laughing out loud in the theater, which is something not many movies have done to me in theaters.
Me too, the whole room was laughing when i went.
YES that was SO unexpected
Mrobull it was not, Harlan says earlier in the movie "Ransom cannot tell a prop from the real thing." I kind of saw it coming because of that.
It was funny because the joke was set up early in the film. Then it was payed off
Matt Thomas yeeeees!!!
Watching Alex act all smug about calling out a plothole that doesn't even exist, all because he fundamentally misunderstood the reveals at the end of the movie is so beyond frustrating. 🤦
Alex has that resting smug face except that he actually is THAT smug ALL OF THE TIME. Hard to tolerate sometimes.
He says it’s a garbage whodunit but a good movie? Like what lmfao how does that make sense if the whodunit story is garbage then the movie would be garbage but he’s calling it a good movie?
@@RobotGman it has good characters, good acting, good cinematography and good score.
But in the end the story itself was kinda meh. Revealing the crime early kinda messed up the movie and the tension.
They should have played more with how the other family members could have killed the old man.
@@YumiSumire I think it built tension during the investigation because we didn't want Marta to get captured. I think it's a great subversion in terms of story crafting and arrangement. So there was a purpose in telling you who the "killer" is and sets up a satisfying pay off. It had clues which can be revisited which would lead you to the answer. Great movie even if he made Star Wars.
@@jojo_n_dat7325 I get that. But the mystery kinda stopped when it was revealed that she's seemingly the killer and the tension wasn't really there until the car chase scene.
Meanwhile the tension then became would she give the money to the family for like solid 30 minutes. Which is not what a whodunnit movie should be about.
My score is 8/10, My only complaint is that I wished we spent more time with the characters and character relationships. I absolutely loved how every tiny detail connected.
I would say 6 out of 10
@@Mm-vx8qh why ?
I say 10/10, i really loved it
To me, it is a 10/10, but I can understand if you don't love all parts!
"Is she Mexican? No, she is Cuban"
I thought she was from Ecuador, or Brazil, or Uruguay.
Cant tell if being ironic, but you dont speak spanish in Brazil
@@nicholasalves2741 its literally the joke from the movie
Nicholas Alves I wanted you to comment on my post, but I got outvoted.
Paraguay*
Cabrera is a very cuban name, I would know...
He calls Daniel Craig only after he finds out the he didn’t die from the over dose but instead slit his own throat !! He needed Marta to get the blame so she wouldn’t get the inheritance 👍
No, he didn't know that. Well yes, that was the cause of death, but he knew that the medical examanation would reveal the overdose.
Endre Sebok he hired Blanc to figure that out
@@endresebok8272
I'm guessing he heard the son talking about how he was still alive 15 minutes after the caretaker left. He probably knew how long it should take to kill him and since it didn't add up plus they found him dead, he thought something didn't go as planned and hired the detective to find out what happened.
@@massojupiter3436 old comment ik, but no. The housekeeper saw him sneak in to the crime scene during the funeral and she had her friend at the medical examiners give her the tox screen results from the autopsy which she sent to him in an email trying to threaten him. Thats when he realized that Marta the Nurse/caregiver wouldn't be accused on that alone so he instead cut out the part with the results and sent part of it to Marta in a new email so she would show up to the blackmail site and find the maid's body and once the cops found her and the evidence there he planned on her going down for that and her being implicated in the old man's death so she would lose her rights to the inheritance. Since he burned down the examiners office there would be no proof he thought of the tox screen not being positive for an OD and he figured her not being able to lie without puking and her good nature would mean she'd cave and say she switched the vials.
The guy in the middle is the perfect example of a guy who thinks he's clever but is actually a philistine
Are you talking about alex?
Mr. poop Well he is sitting in the middle isn't he?
Why? I don't see any cleverness
@DejaVoodooDoll but I need examples. I didn't notice any of that. Maybe a few jokes that didn't land but other than that, nothing
Or maybe you are the one that think he is smart, and others aren't, but in reality it is the opposite. Ever thought about that?
"...JUMP OFF A CLIFF!"
Calmly: "But actually....."
Lol
LOL it's funny when someone tells a person and their family to die! It's only a joke, dude! Right?
FFS.
@@dmc2076 Lol yeah exactly, only a joke. What's got our panties in a knot?
D MC it’s called subverting your expectations snow flake
@@SOADVSSOAD I'm sorry, but if you think telling people to die, even jokingly, is okay, especially because of something as trivial as not liking a movie, then you're an asshole.
The fact that two years later Joe is still butthurt because he didn't get the wish-fulfillment power fantasy he wanted is just pathetic.
@@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303 the fact that you don't realize saying things like that, even as a joke, normalizes toxic behaviour, and that you find Joe entertaining and/or insightful shows that you're probably a sheltered, immature child.
I found the ranting at 15:28 SO funny. We honestly should make this a meme whenever talking about anything Rian-but-not-TLJ related where we just randomly and angrily rant about the Last Jedi in the middle of talking about his other project lol
Sadly Rian Johnson does the same.. about the fact he wants to stay in Star Wars( his new movie just out, but what about another Star Wars, please). So people angrily rants are best.
Matt Stansbeary I hurt my brain trying to understand what this says
@@ZR38315 Rian Johnson said sign me up for season two of Mandalorian and still wants a to do more Star wars.
Matt Stansbeary imagine not wanting to work on Star Wars again after a really fun time doing a Star War before, wouldn’t you?
Yeah lol. Hope it becomes a running gag
It's a good movie and a fun take on the usual who did it, it's supposed to be fun not serious.
Thanks man, I knew I wasn't only the only one.
Any movie has to make sense in its own rules. I think it's an unique movie, but could have been better if they'd just rearranged some reveals. Missed opportunity.
@@YumiSumire like what?
@@memali2939 i'd like the detective and the cops to do more theories earlier on. And they get wrong one by one. That would make the movie more interesting for me.
Instead they just beginning with the detective seemingly knowing everything. Like, "Look, he's smart" And then him being dumb for the rest of the movie until the final scene.
Sigh. The bad guy called the person after he got the report. Not before like Alex claims.
Spoilers
The bad guy hired the detective because the death was ruled as suicide by slitting the throat, not as overdose.
Alex always trying to be the smartest person in the room but reveals himself to be a complete dumbass
JJ Six that’s pretty on brand for Alex
No, you (naturally) wrong, Alex is right. He hired the detective the next day, when the newspaper article read "suicide". The blackmail (report) was later.
And you other idiots: Alex is right. The medical examanation would reveal the overdose. Now, would Ransom know that there is always such an examanation conducted? If he knew to take the "antidote" (and which one that was), yes he could have.
@@endresebok8272 even if the report was revealed to the police, they would most likely rule it out to be a part of the suicide. He sliced his throat, maybe used morphine to not feel pain.
Columbo was universally a "Howdunnit", the murder and the murderer were always known at the jump. The show was about Columbo unraveling the mystery and piecing it all together.
I really would like the final score is the average between OJ, Alex and Joe.
AeonRoxas just do the maths yourself
Are you really that stupid that you can't figure it out yourself?
It’s more the fact that his score appears to be the only one that matters. When it arrives with a big boom lol
@@googleisevil1041 Did they say they couldn't?
That would be cool.
Dont know why people decided to rip you apart.
15:27 i didn't see this coming haha xD
Me @15:27 😲🤣
My wife and I paused this movie more than any other we've watched together to discuss the plot. That means a lot to me. Great movie.
The reason Ransom hired the detective is because the old man killed himself, instead of dying from the medicinal mix up, and he wanted to make sure that there was an investigation, including a toxicology report, instead of being dismissed as a suicide.
Wouldn't the medical reports say he would have an unusual amount of morphine in his body anyway. It seems like calling the Dectective was just unnecessary. If you killed someone and tried to make it look like an accident.
@@trigunfox2325 No. 1) The detectives were ALREADY labeling it as a suicide. and 2) Ransome saw that the news had already labeled it a Suicide and he was already being buried, he haad to act fast cause he knew the nurse would get everything. 3) there wasn't an actual overdose so there wasn't anything that would have been reported 4) it wasn't a murder staged to look like a suicide, it was a suicide done under false pretenses.
@@phoenixfunny4517 Oh ok
@@trigunfox2325 A lot of times with elderly people that are in poor health they don't do those tests because they're expensive and time consuming. And especially if it's obvious the person killed themselves with a knife, it's unlikely they do those tests. But maybe
He wanted it to be a murder a murder the girl did
The entire review:
W H O D U N N I T
It turns from a 'who done it' to a 'how do i get out of it before he figures it out' and then into a 'you didnt know who done it after all'. I loved it.
If you wanna watch a really good Whodunnit (or rather: a really good parody of the genre), go watch "Murder by Death" from 1976. Great cast (Truman Capote, Peter Falk, Alec Guinness, David Niven, Peter Sellers, Maggie Smith, et al), great humor, very enjoyable 95 minutes of murder mystery.
Love that show. Good recommendation
Or clue
@@Dreyfuss_The_Guy I thought a lot of people hated Clue the movie. The one with Tim Curry, right?
Yes. Murder by Death is in my top ten list of favorite comedies. Peter Sellers stole the entire show (but yet, everyone was *so* good). Sellers was a comedic genius. It's a shame he died so young. Alec Guiness as the Butler was one of the film's *many* highlights.
Speaking of Guiness and Sellers: the original Ladykillers is worth checking out. It's an utter masterpiece.
I would also add any Argento Giallo film like deep red, 4 flies on grey velvet, tenebre, or his more supernatural films like Inferno or Suspiria are good ones. I liked Murder by death tho.
In this case subverting expectations enhanced the movie. It was a nice twist on the genre and there were plenty of other mysteries to unfold.
In Columbia dont they show who the murderer is at the start and it about columbo catching him with his ONE MORE THING line
Yeah, that was the genius of Columbo; you weren’t watching a “whodunnit,” you were watching a chess game play out, with the hook coming more from watching *how* Columbo puts all the pieces of the puzzle together.
Pretty sure Alex doesn’t know what he is talking
Lucca216 obviously
*Uploads before I go to sleep
Joe: This the way
Me: This is the way
This is the way
This is the way.
This is the way
This is the way
This is the way.
This movie in an nutshell:
Beginning: It's a who done it movie
Early on: Ok, it's not a who done it movie
Final act: Oh wait, IT IS A WHO DONE IT MOVIE!
Spoilers
The bad guy hired the detective because the death was ruled as suicide by slitting the throat, not as overdose.
Spoilers...
No, he hired the detective to reveal that it was the nurse, making the will null and void. That way he’d get a cut if she’s eventually charged with the crime. The fact that the older man slit his throat was an unexpected occurrence, he was banking on the toxicology report.
@@leoneljaramillo6710spoilers
that's what i meant. The culprit wouldn't have gotten anything if the death was ruled as a suicide. Hence the hiring of Detective Bond was to reveal the death as foul play caused by the one in the will. I think Alex just didn't catch that part of the story we're pointing out
Rex Josef Calmerin yeah, what I’m saying is that he hired the detective after they found him. He didn’t do it after they assumed it was a suicide, he was gonna hire him regardless. I’m I making sense? Also I only saw it once, and it was convoluted, so maybe I got the timeline wrong.
Leonel Jaramillo he wasnt going to hire him regardless though. The news would have reported him dying and after a toxicology report it would have shown a morphine overdose, obviously pointing to marta, (if it went according to his plan), but the news already was pushing that it was a suicide because he was found with a slit throat and that he was going to be buried soon, so he hired the detective to try and reveal the foul play at hand.
I remember seeing the trailer to this, thinking it looked interesting, and then Rian Johnson's name appeared and I was like:
Eugh.
Macgyverthehero seeing Rian Johnson made me interested seeing as Looper and TLJ are good
@Late Night Gaming Enjoying a movie does not make it a good movie. TLJ is a bad movie going by many objective metrics. You can enjoy it but what TLJ has done to the franchise is simply bad.
@@ManicPandaz not more bad then what Episode 1 did.
@Darkness1984 What TLJ did to the narrative was worse. What TLJ did to the franchise was worse. The basic structure of the story of TLJ was worse. Episode 1 isn’t great, it’s not TLJ though.
@@ManicPandaz there was no story structure in tlj.
The grandmother tells to detective about both of them climbing the house.
Angry Joe needs to do a follow-up videos for the reviews just so his friend can apologize for misunderstanding the movie and completely missing the point
You should do a follow-up reply and apology when you realize that the plot doesn't make sense. But who am I kidding? You are an idiot and you will be one.
@@endresebok8272 They needed to pay closer attention I don't know how all three missed the important details. Chris Evans character only hires the investigator after the death was ruled a suicide. It was ruled a suicide because the nurse in fact injected the correct medication at the correct dosage, because of the slight difference in weight of the two medications. She subconsciously knew which medication was which without looking. Watch the ending again the investigator explains all of it.
@@JRxxx Wrong comment?! Anywho: that's not correct. He hired the investigator after the newspaper article about suicide. We don't know if the investigation was officially over at that point (propably not).
@@endresebok8272 Considering He is family and the police released the body for a funeral, I'm assuming he was told it was ruled a suicide in combination with the news paper. Maybe he saw the paper then called and confirmed they ruled it a suicide. But hey man if you didn't like it, you didn't like it.
@@JRxxx The medical test takes a while, and they can exhumate (?) the body if they really need...
And it's not about liking or not, but about plotholes, lazy writing, stupid charachters (Fran). The fingerprints of Rian Johnson.
>by ruin johnson
no thanks, I'll pirate
@Cole Pratt You're on every comment telling people to get laid lol, projecting much?
Cole, you're sad man. Get laid.
Do they even Columbo ? For someone whose main complain is "mystery is revealed too early and dumbass detective doesn't even get it" but detective knew about her involvement from the moment he saw her and was provoking her the whole time. Also, "the mystery" was not "revealed too early" because it was not the actual mystery.
Speaking of Star wars,
Still waiting on that Fallen Order reveiw!
bro give him a break! he literally released a game review 5 days ago not even a week. In due time he shall release the review
@B T R Exactly why I am unsubscribing. I came here for fucking game reviews. Not his opinions on shit ass movies.
@@RandomUser179 Why do only number of likes appear and not dislikes
@@Dan-iy3cj yeah I know. It's not like I'm freaking out that it isn't out. He can take as long as he needs. Just pointing out that I'm anticipating it
@@Bean-mr8sf me too lol
"Yes, but sometimes people watch our spoilers, who haven't seen the film, just cause they like asuidhfiusbadf"
Its like Joe is speaking to me
Im like that with redlettermedia, just watch all their videos regardless
3:48 - The Catalyst: "I think your EXPECTATIONS are in the wrong place."
3:51 - The Seed: Joe's mind is churning a thousand miles a minute with the trigger word.
3:54 - The Hatch: Joe has it... he looks into the camera to cue the audience that he is ready.
3:56 - The Delivery: "Would you say that he SUBVERTED your traditional 'whodunit' EXPECTATIONS?"
4:05 - The Cackle: I got nothin' lol.
What's brown and sticky?
A Stick
I actually really liked this film!
Last Jedi aside, he should really focus on making these types of movies instead of making other stuff for established franchises that don't fit his style.
Brer Fox You’re exactly the type of person that made Lucas want to sell SW.
@Brer Fox This is why Lucas sold star wars you big man baby
I love how racist the family are to the Butler when she’s just as white as they are (she’s Spanish descent).
I'm black but I hate racism in general. Why it's not illegal like it is in the USA army makes no sense.
Before someone says free speech
1 hate speech isn't free.
2 what about free speech in the army?
@@jello788 "Why's it not illegal?" ......................BECAUSE IT'S A CONSITUTIONAL RIGHT!!
ffs..are you people for real??
@@jello788 hate speech is free speech. Despite how dispicable I think it is. Supreme Court has already ruled on it. And it's not allowed in the army so that our men and women fighting for our freedoms are the most leathal and capable they can be. They need to have trust in there fellow man and you can't have any room for racism when you fight along side another.
Aberrations Abattoir She’s from a Latin country (they don’t say but the actress is from Cuba so I’m going with that) and they think all Latinas are brown, even though countries like Chile, Cuba and Argentina are mostly filled with whites (why do you think Nazis fled to Argentina?).
@@jello788Why isn't racism illegal? Whether you like it or not that falls under free speech which is protected by the United States Constitution and second hate speech is free speech.
-Angry Joe reviewing Rian Johnsons movie
-This is not the way
In Columbo you know who did it right at the beginning. Columbo usually figures it out halfway through.
to correct the reason Chris evens called the detective was from a newspaper that said it was a suicide not that the nurse gave the morphine
Wait, Rich Evans was in this movie? I'd suffer through my Ryan Johnson hatred to watch Rich Evans on the big screen
The tox report hadn't even been finished at that point. He brought in the detective before they even had a chance to show whether or not he had been poisoned.
I would like to see a end of the year favorite movie pick from all the Angry Joe members. It would be very interesting to see who picks which film.
Always wondered why AJ's rating gets the stamp as final verdict but not OJ or Alex. Shouldn't it be the average of all involved? So 7/10 for this one.
Na Aj is the boss
@@rocketsurgeon6442 not really so cut and dry. He brings them on, asks for their numbers. If it was just him talking about it alone in front of the camera it would be another matter. I think it would be fun if OJ and Alex got their own distinct sound effects from the AJ version when they give their rating.
I like that AJ gives the final verdict..it's his show...if you didn't like the film as much nothing stops you from agreeing with OJ or A. Also remember that their rating is bad, below average, average, above average, & excellent......SOOO all 3 of them felt this was in the "above average" range.....just AJ liked it the most this time.
LMFAO at 15:27.
That was funny, but let's be honest, Johnson's problem is he needs to stay in his lane. Star Wars isn't his wheelhouse, and his other films are pretty solid. Knives Out is great entertainment, and he deserves better than a bunch of Star Wars fans unfairly criticizing good work because they are butthurt over a franchise that died long ago, well before Disney ever got their hands on it.
The original trilogy was gold, but the moment Jar Jar Binks was first introduced, i knew Star Wars would never be the same again. The blame for that goes to George Lucas himself.
Star Wars 1 to 6 are kid movies. I watched ep 4 when I was about 4 or 5 and I loved them better than any other movie. Ep 1 came out in my childhood and it is my 4th favourite Star Wars movie. Qui-Gon Jin is cooler than Obi-Wan Kenobi in my book and that is a big word, because Obi-Wan is amazing and I think Jar Jar Binks is pretty cool.
Ep 2 is boring and ep 3 has such a horrible sword fight scene that I just cannot take it seriously. So I rate ep 1 highet than 2 and 3.
*The original (english) version is very bad, because of the voices of the actors. Lucas picked the perfect actors, but he did not picked the perfect voice with them. Anakin and Jar Jar in the og dub are annoying, but if you watch any foreign dubs they are better than the original one.
I love all 6 of the Star Wars movies, plus the holiday special and I did not consider the frenchise dead before disney ruined it. So please do not speak/write in my name.
The real murder mystery is who murdered the Star Wars sequels?
Leedle Lee I have eliminated no suspects... 🧐
@@samcohen99 It murdered itself, when you create a franchise romantizing Global communism via depicting namesakes of the old Holy Roman empire monarchs of eastern europe, (Emperor was the european king of kings) for e.g, the franchise is clearly a Marxist an attempt to depict any part of human history Marxists consider imperialist/Monarchic etc) you build an entertainment franchise off dishonest intentions.
Then when a for profit company buy the rights with the intention of making money by beating a dead horse...you have a recipe for failure.
Disney
Lucad did with Episode 1. Case closed.
George Lucas
As someone who sometimes skipped to the end of murder mystery novels to find out who the killer was, _I was thrilled when they 'kind of' told us who the killer was in the beginning_
did you ever finish the book afterwards? I didn't want to finish the movie this: 6:12
The review was neat but the manchild "rian Johnson bad" rant had me rolling my eyes, sweet jesus
Lol I liked that "Rian Johnson Star Wars" joke at the beginning because I thought that was horrible for a Star Wars movie, but when he kept bringing it up again, I was like dude, get over it, that was two years ago and this is a completely different movie.
Am I the only one that feels the film was ruined by the fact that they specifically mention Anna's character is an experienced nurse?
**Spoilers**
If she was an experienced nurse, she should have noticed that the morphine wasn't affecting him after she had injected over 6 min earlier. It was intravenous, as a nurse who had administered the meds multiple times, she should have noticed immediately that he wasn't being affected by the overdose. I still enjoyed the ride, but that pulled me right out of it.
IDK I'm not going to watch the movie. I liked Looper but even that movie makes no actual sense (time travel never does). Honestly it still blows my mind that RJ was given free reign over SW when he only directed 2-3 movies at the time and some TV episodes....
Seriously. Do people not realize and IV morphine dose way higher than you need would knock you out immediately? Not 5 mins later, not 2 hours later. Immediately
Caught that and I’m not a nurse, or an addict.
It is actually explained in the movie the part that you were discussing at the end of the video. During the reveal the character's motivation and why they don't do what Alex said they should have is explained. Something doesn't go according to plan, so they had to switch gears and formulate a new course of action. Sorry for the vagueness, but it's a big spoiler and since the spoiler part is now being included at the end of the regular review it's kind of impossible to talk about the movie in the comment section without ruining the movie for someone who just wants to watch the review.
Alex, I also have watched loads of these types of shows and movies (many with my mom and grandma when there were still of this world). I didn't mind the early reveal too much because it is a Columbo-like device. The problem I had was that this was, to me, a waste of a fantastic cast. Every character was a paper-thin stereotype -- laughably so. I kept hoping Rian was going to play with that and show us that at least one or two of them were not what they seemed. No such luck. So, I guess he subverted my expectations by not subverting my expectations.
Also, I thought the whole character who cannot lie without puking device was the most ludicrous thing to have in a picture calling itself a mystery. Perfect for a comedy - stupid for a mystery. Lord, that character was so angelic it turned me against her.
Hey Joe, just wanted to touch on your questions about why Ransom called the detective. He included the newspaper clipping about his grandfather's death that said the police were ruling it as a suicide. Maybe he thought they wouldn't even bother to look into the tox report? That's what my wife and I thought.
Yeah, why look at the tox report if his throath is slith?
@@BiggerR10 Because like Alex said they always do that. Listen not just watch!
It is a better question if Ransom knew this? Well if he knew the medicines, and which one is the antidote...
A little late to the party here. Just watched it last night, and I gotta say I disagree with the sentiment that the early reveal ruined the tension. For me, it was pretty clear that it was a misdirection right from the reveal scene. At that point, it basically just shifted focus from "Who wielded the knife?" to "Who tampered with the bag?". I thought it was a pretty great movie, all in all. Kept me hooked throughout.
Yup. Obviously they wouldn't tell the critical things in first 20 minutes. You know there's GOTTA be more to this, and THAT is what gets you really invested. As Rian Johnson said, guessing the culprit isn't that much fun, movie is not a crossword puzzle. You have to be invested on the journey itself, not just figuring out the solution, like it's a math quiz. And we do, because Martha is sympathetic character and we root for her.
"It was the butler!!! What?? We've never seen him!" That was gold ! LOL!
I hate to use this term but you guys just didn’t get the twist. The first act starts as a traditional whodunnit but the twist is when Benoit blanc flips a coin into to the second act which is when the movie switches genre from a traditional whodunnit to a Hitchcock style suspense drama and has that for the entire second act but then switches back to a traditional whodunnit when blanc has the detective figure it out speech. Personally I think it’s a excellent whodunnit with a perfect example of a plot twist, great cast, brilliant writing and amazing direction. 9/10
9:12 "SHE GOT THAT CUBAN ENERGY, HUH?!"
I don't agree that the formula was broken at all. Columbo was mentioned as being great and that straight up opened with the murder each time and was just about him getting them to trip up. To me Knives Out felt like a marriage of that Columbo style with the more traditional Agatha Christie end of the spectrum. My only issue with it all was that several characters didn't get much attention, that made me subconsciously start ruling out suspects just because of how much of them the movie gave us. I really enjoyed it otherwise though, and I'd also give it an 8/10.
I really hope CSI KFC becomes a series of movies with Daniel Craig returning in that prominent supporting role with a different main cast each time.
Are you going to review Ford vs Ferrari?
He just reviewed this utter shitter's movie instead. Look at how crap his game reviews have been lately.
Watched it, was meh like most other car films. Who gives a fuck tbh lol
@JimmySnaps About a a 30 minute review? I really don't lol, there is nothing to really say about it.
@@RandomUser179 you're so right
saw it on opening day, good movie, good acting, kinda cliche but seeing the actual car racing on the big screen is exhilarating.
For the love of god can we get a Fallen Order review already I’ve been dying for it lol. Happy Thanksgiving Joe!
This is definitely a Rian Johnson film.
1. Completely misunderstands the point of the movie and destroys it. The big reveal happens about 30 min into the film, this isn't a whodunnit movie at all.
2. Totally contrived events in the story to move the plot along. The nurse just so happens to give the "wrong" medication the same night she was framed, the nurse's car just so happens to not start up to allow Captain America to give her a ride, the nurse for whatever stupid reason spills the beans about the whole story to Captain America when she had no reason to, she could have just got up and left.
3. Critics eat it up, but true fans hate it.
“Subverting expectations doesn’t work in Star Wars”
Which translates we want nothing new unless it’s a cool shiny new lightsaber
I’ll be perfectly honest, I haven’t seen nor heard of a movie like this in years.
Murder on the Orient Express?
@@forrinkars Was shit compared to Knives out
Ransom doesn’t call detective Blanc immediately, but only after he realizes that the cause of Harlan’s death was a slit throat and not a morphine overdose. He didn’t want his death to be just dismissed as a suicide by some provincial detectives, so he needed Blanc to dig deeper and find out it actually was a murder. Also, he must have started doubting what has actually happened on that night, thinking that possibly someone else has murdered Harlan staging it as a suicide, and maybe there was no morphine overdose in the first place. If Marta didn’t give him any medication on that night, his plan of blaming all on her would have fallen completely apart. Given that, at that point, he was the only one who knew they were all left out of the will, he had to act fast by hiring Blanc. That’s why Ransom’s actions actually make a lot of sense to me.
and Chris Evans obviously called the detective once he learned his grandfather had slit his own throat. that wasn't part of his plan so he needed the detective to investigate.
The whole point of the first reveal is to turn the movie from a whodunit into an entirely different genre. It’s almost a prison break film except you have a valid reason to want the protagonist to escape the inevitable. The detective always finds who did it. You know who did it, but you want s/he to not get caught. That’s where the suspense comes from in the second act. This isn’t a whodunit and you guys are reviewing it as one because that’s what you wanted. Not getting what you wanted isn’t a fault of the movie. Sure it was marketed as one, but what else could they have done in the trailer besides market it as one.
I think I’ve finally reached the point where I not only greatly appreciate Alex’s objectivity, but the general fact he hates every movie ever.
Mainly because he always has a solid reason WHY he’s not feeling it.
Søda Meløn I generally agree.
Yeah and that solid reasoning is almost always him misunderstanding aspects of a movie and generally full of shit. But at least he tries.
Chris Evans hired the detective because he found out the initial cause of death was his throat was slit and Fran's note and then finding out the toxicology report would show his blood was fine
Just saw the film last night and loved it. One of the best films I've seen all year.
"Garbage"? really?
I'm subverting Rian's expectations by not watching it.
"Sorry about ruining your favourite franchise and calling you manbabies for the last two years, but come see my movie! Please!"
No thanks
Pineapple Pizza was a really good movie tho, i dont think you are making a point against bad movies by not supporting the good ones
Man babies still crying I see
@@epidemic1207 yup.... never forget.
I wish Alex knew that it’s okay to have a little bit of fun every now and then
Not watching any of Rian’s shit in theater after what he did to Star Wars.
Get over it fanboy
EXACTLY. THIS.
@@incipidsigninsetup get over urself fucker
How petty
I'm lost. What happened?
This is like hating Unbreakable because it was made by the same person who made The Happening. Doesn't this make the review biased ?
Well, if you don't like the style of Shamalan, then it is not biased. So if you don't like movies that are flashy, but the story is illogical (=Rian Johnson movies) then no, it is not bised.
He bases the final verdict on The Last Jedi. I don't think he noticed that this movie isn't a part of Star Wars.
I get that the bias is very unreasonable, but he’s making a joke about giving it a 2 because it’s Rian Johnson, but actually giving it an 8 for the quality of the film itself.
15:27 This is why I love Angry Joe.
This is the way.
I have spoken.
I think Rian immediately revealed the 1st few superficial lies from the family to establish the detective prowess of Mr. Blanc. He was able to suss out the lies and determine the truth just as quickly as we learned it.
One of the stupidest things I've heard. The guy doesn't like it because the director said something about the movie in some interview and that is not what is in the movie so he is disappointed. Hey dolt, movies don't work that way. You don't need to listen to directors interviews beforehand to watch the movie. In fact, if watching directors interviews before the movie is needed for watching the movie, than that is what is bad, not the other way around.
Did Alex not get the fact that Ransom called benoit blanc to investigate initially because he realized that marta wasn't going get caught for wrongfully injecting Harland with an Morphine overdose but because the Death initially was going to be ruled a suicide. And because he knew that he framed marta he needed benoit to look deeper into the case.
The one dude just doesn't understand story. His point is making a whodunnit that has all of the typical great moments of a whodunnit but still surprises you with it's ending because the initial "whodunnit" isn't the actual answer. That's how an EXCELLENT storyteller tells an excellent story. You missed it. Just like you missed how well his story is in TLJ.
Someone could give Alex a million dollars and say, “yeah, idk it’s still not a billion dollars tho”
Rian Johnson destroyed Star Wars. I will never respect that person.
Even though he directed some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, like Ozymandias (which has been hailed as one of the greatest TV episodes of all time)?
@@Phanthief95 Yes, even that.
Star wars was destroyed in 1999 already.
Imagine thinking that one movie that was no worse than average destroyed a whole movie franchise
You're a manchild loser who needs to get a bloody life then.
I have a hard time taking the actual Joe serious lately. I actually take OJ and Alex more serious because AJ for some movies has been really easy on some movies for faults that are actually bigger than he wants to admit. It is subjective and what one might see as good another may seem as stupid. Lately I can’t tell if I can trust his opinion and trust more on his co hosts. I’ve agreed more with OJ and Alex than I have with Joe.. This isn’t a hate letter still love you man.
You lost me at ,, It was directed by Ryan Johnson " 🤢 🤮
15:27 I second that 😎
Waahhhhhh
Dude, in all Columbo episodes we know who did it from the beginning.
So many angry fanboys who dismiss the film without even watching it cause It's a Rian Johnson movie lmaooo. Dude Rian has made multiple good movies and directed great Breaking Bad epsiodes. Move on already
He made Brick and Looper, Looper being a retarded movie.
He ruined star wars and shit on a lot of peoples childhoods. But you know , it's his movie so he does whatever the fuck he wants to watch. Rian , being a Kathleen Kennedy teet sucker , leads me to believe that I dont care for his movies. It's nice that you seem to enjoy it though but try to understand why so many star wars fans hate this guy.
Fuck him for almost ruining star wars!
@@liquidtruth7954 he didn't ruin your childhood get over it.. all he did was make a bad movie this has nothing to do with your childhood the original trilogy still exists people really have to grow up
@ Okay incel. Cry more
Not only is this a classical who done it it's not the only one I've seen that reveals key points ahead of time. Who done it's dont ALWAYS follow the same formula. It's still a murder mystery by the end.
Jedi Fallen Order will be soon I guess 🙃
So good
Bmxer_DSM Game of the Year
Kermit of Rivia man shut the fuck up
Connor Smith Nah!
Hellbound Wolf420 It isn’t GOTY material anyway
Annnnnd Joe drank the Kool Aid again. Sleep on it dude.
Wtf am i doing
Man I’m a huge fan but man it hurt calling me weak gened 😢 I’m cut... I’m really cut.
You'll get over it.
Nathan Witus yeah you’re probably right
@@pokeabomb I just noticed the "I'm really cut" part of your post. I see what you did there
Dude! You cant call Knives out a "whodunnit," because it shows the other hand halfway through the film. And the big reveal at the end... look, if you didn't see the reveal at the end coming, then I feel like you must have been asleep throughout the film. The whole thing was very heavy handed. That's probably my biggest gripe with the film. It felt more like a Lifetime Original movie to me.
Yeah the villain was pretty obvious, as soon as they said sjw I was like “and it’s you.” Dogs barking confirmed it.
@@astartesteadious3756 last I checked, 96 on rotten tomatoes... Somehow
puttingoutenoch problem with rotten tomatoes is that everyone could score a 6/10 and it would get 100%. While I did like the movie (a 7 for me I think) nothing was surprising, I mostly just liked the characters and the dialogue. Then again it seems Americans can’t write murder mysteries for shit from my experience (watching way too many American crime shows and movies). Only the British and some Canadians can write them where the killer isn’t obvious from the get go.
Im pretty sure the director read the ChooseYourOwnAdventure book "Who Killed Harlowe Thrombey?"...It was loosely the same setup where you were a detective that has to find out who the murderer was
Have you guys seen Prisoners starring Hugh Jackman? Now THAT'S a good whodunit.
Ummm... I mean kind of...
Not really a whodunit
Scream is my favorite whodunit.
@@ekoms108 that's a good movie!
With an "open and shut" suicide case such as this one, an autopsy is often skipped. Ransom hires KFC-CSI in order to cast suspicion on the death, which in turn causes the autopsy and toxicology report.
I would have just not bothered to review this movie. There's no WAY I could do an impartial review after what Rian Johnson did to Star Wars.
Yea. Especially when Rian could've made The Last Jedi GREAT
Seriously Rian Johnson did not ruin Star Wars: The Last Jedi in my opinion ... He made the film so amazing and dark... But his other films like Looper and Knives Out I heard was extraordinary.... Yeah I definitely need to see those two!!!
Knives out was awesome deserved a 9/10 badass seal
These had to be some of the stupidest criticisms of the movie. I don’t mean the comments about The Last Jedi because those were played as jokes for the most part and didn’t really effect the overall review.