The comments about Doncic really reveal a lot about American attitudes towards European players. "I was shocked he was so developed." "I thought he would be overwhelmed." Of all the rookies that you could have predicted wouldn't have been overwhelmed, it should have been Doncic. He was BY FAR the most accomplished rookie, he has been a professional since he was 16, he's played multiple years in the most competitive basketball league outside the NBA and won the MVP. Why would he be more overwhelmed than the other guys coming out of college? That attitude shows such a bias against European leagues and players and overrates the college system
Caleb Ayton dude I agree with u however people were sceptical of him because of previous busts from Europe. People believed someone like Dragen Bender would be like a Dirk and look how that turned out
Jacko Ando bruh.. Bender averaged 2 points in EuroLeague and was drafted based on potential. Doncic won everything you can win in Europe basically, including European title with his country (Eurobasket) so he has already proven himself. And don't get me wrong there were busts from Europe, but from the US too and nobody was sceptical about those.
Ye true busts from both US and Europe but I think people were just thinking of past European busts. But yes ur totally right about how he was different by winning MVP at 18 and leading his team to the championship in the 2nd best league in the world.
You are right Caleb Ayton. The only issue i had with Luka and i watched him play, was if he would be able to keep up with the athleticism and schedule of the NBA. And he is not the best defender. But other than that, i knew Doncic would be NBA-ready and would surprise some sceptical NBA fans.
The Starters 0:00 Start 0:30 Intro Quarterly Report Q1 1:50 Overvalued Teams 5:25 Undervalued Teams 7:45 Player paying Dividends Whatchu Got? 10:30 MVP 13:10 ROY 15:45 MIP Fill In The Blank 18:05 Must-watch player... 19:30 Stat of the season... 21:45 Pick ‘Em Play 22:05 Very Solid Play 22:25 Wedgie!
Yeah but man siakam is scoring 5 less points as a third or fourth option on the most efficient shooting 20% higher than the other options and plays 1-4 defense. Volume would lower efficiency if he was a 2nd option maybe but damn that guy is balling hard af. .220 win share per 48 too lmao
@@hudsoneezy the efficiency may come from being a 3rd or 4th tho...if defenders are worried about other players and not able to focus on siakim it gives him easier baskets. I like both players and its a close race for me.
The MVP question, my answer is, let’s put a sleeper in the MVP race, Kawhi Leonard. With the 17-4 Raptors, his stats are pretty good to prove it and yes I know he’s coming off an injury but doesn’t really matter, defence is what you need, IQ, leadership... and Kawhi is an MVP sleeper
@@nickmitchell7584 they gave it to Nash back to back with that kind of stat line If in the end kawhi doesn't miss more than 15 games total I don't see any problem Best player in the team with best record just this simple Kawhi is definitely deserving of mvp considered how NBA has always chosen mvp
luca doncic... he is the most rounded rookie. good size, can play 1,2,3,4 position and can play defense. he can fit very well to any team, because he learn the "European way" which is play team basketball, give up a good shot for a great shot mentality.
Most undervalued could potentially be the Chicago Bulls. I was expecting them to compete for an 8th or 7th seed this year but half the rotation has been out. They get Lauri back soon followed by Dunn and Portis. And Zach is playing all star level rn. Idk kinda a sleeper
Sad that TJ Warren doesn't get any recognition for the insane improvements he's made just because he's on the Suns. Went from being an awful three point shooter to shooting 50/40/90.
Pascal has like 69% TS with a ridiculous .220 WS / 48m guarding 1-4 as needed. Ofc this comes from being a 3rd option on the team with the most Ws but no way lavine scores 15 on .650 on the raptors deep team lol
Harden ain't 'carrying' his team when he's taking up nearly every possession, has an insane amount of turnovers and his team loses. He's had great games despite that many turnovers offensively but it ain't carrying if his opposing point guard is scoring a ton every game, his teammates stand in the corners with no chance of contributing offensively other than 'providing spacing', his team is having the worst defense in the league by a countrymile and they lose 4 in a row. Rockets are only slightly undervalued at the moment, they are multiple pieces away from being top3/4 in the West but only one injury to either CP3/Harden or Capela from potentially missing the playoffs. Morey decided to massively overpay CP3 (not specifically this year but over the course of the contract) and it's backfiring. Even when fully healthy Rockets lack the depth to even cope with injuries to rotation players. Sorry, James Harden, you're doing what you can but this is heroball at it's finest and worst.
I wanna hear them talk about the twolves for once. We were talked about all the time when our locker room was a soap opera. Now that we are winning we have disappeared from discussion
It's not hating on him, it's quite agreed upon by anyone who's paying any attention to the league this season. And tell me what you think is so bad about drinking urine?
Go ahead and keep proving your ignorance about something that you clearly know nothing at all about, and the 'eating shit' retort shows that you have no clue about anything and should cease with the juvenile quips before looking utterly foolish later. And why are you browsing my channel after what I originally said about Kawhi being a better MVP candidate at this time compared to Lebron?? Seems like a very odd reason to troll the channel.
Lavine isn't playing any better than he did 2 years ago. Just taking more shots cuz his team is real bad. You could argue he was better two years ago, his 3pt% is down and his overall eff% is down. The bulls have the worst offense in the league, they just suck ass and someones gotta shoot it
Team record and back to back are very difficult But if rockets get top 3 record HARDEN can win it for sure he's carrying it like a titan rockets are a worse team compared to last season
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is doing more for his team and helping them win, yet you don't rate him in the ROY conversation? Lmao!! Y'all don't even know ball.
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The comments about Doncic really reveal a lot about American attitudes towards European players. "I was shocked he was so developed." "I thought he would be overwhelmed." Of all the rookies that you could have predicted wouldn't have been overwhelmed, it should have been Doncic. He was BY FAR the most accomplished rookie, he has been a professional since he was 16, he's played multiple years in the most competitive basketball league outside the NBA and won the MVP. Why would he be more overwhelmed than the other guys coming out of college? That attitude shows such a bias against European leagues and players and overrates the college system
Caleb Ayton dude I agree with u however people were sceptical of him because of previous busts from Europe. People believed someone like Dragen Bender would be like a Dirk and look how that turned out
@@jackoando4596 Busts happen everywhere, look at Fultz a top pick....
Jacko Ando bruh.. Bender averaged 2 points in EuroLeague and was drafted based on potential. Doncic won everything you can win in Europe basically, including European title with his country (Eurobasket) so he has already proven himself.
And don't get me wrong there were busts from Europe, but from the US too and nobody was sceptical about those.
Ye true busts from both US and Europe but I think people were just thinking of past European busts. But yes ur totally right about how he was different by winning MVP at 18 and leading his team to the championship in the 2nd best league in the world.
You are right Caleb Ayton. The only issue i had with Luka and i watched him play, was if he would be able to keep up with the athleticism and schedule of the NBA. And he is not the best defender. But other than that, i knew Doncic would be NBA-ready and would surprise some sceptical NBA fans.
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The Starters
0:00 Start
0:30 Intro
Quarterly Report Q1
1:50 Overvalued Teams
5:25 Undervalued Teams
7:45 Player paying Dividends
Whatchu Got?
10:30 MVP
13:10 ROY
15:45 MIP
Fill In The Blank
18:05 Must-watch player...
19:30 Stat of the season...
21:45 Pick ‘Em Play
22:05 Very Solid Play
22:25 Wedgie!
Harrell, Sabonis, Harris, LaVine, Richardson and Siakam could all win most improved player at this point in the season
What about that sophomore(Fox) from Sacramento?
From a Raptors fan, don’t get me wrong, my MIP is Zach Lavine. Already putting monster numbers for the Bulls as a #1 scoring option
Christopher Rahi also a raps fan and I agree for this point in the szn - lavine
Its Steph Curry for me
suwo2 how is Steph gonna win MIP if he had back to back MVP seasons before
Yeah but man siakam is scoring 5 less points as a third or fourth option on the most efficient shooting 20% higher than the other options and plays 1-4 defense. Volume would lower efficiency if he was a 2nd option maybe but damn that guy is balling hard af. .220 win share per 48 too lmao
@@hudsoneezy the efficiency may come from being a 3rd or 4th tho...if defenders are worried about other players and not able to focus on siakim it gives him easier baskets. I like both players and its a close race for me.
I love this show because they give attention to every single team and not just lebron in LA
Worth watching this whole episode just to hear Leigh's chuckle in the last second
Where is jordan when you need him?
Siakam, Lavine, Fox, Sabonis, Randle, Mirotic for MIP. So far great numbers from them.
Most improve player is motrzell harrell
Half the clippers roster could win this award
Rishabh Raj Nope, Lou has been struggling. Bradley is worse than garbage.
Motorzell?
Derrick Rose is most improved
Sorry but no. It’s Pascal Siakam.
The MVP question, my answer is, let’s put a sleeper in the MVP race, Kawhi Leonard. With the 17-4 Raptors, his stats are pretty good to prove it and yes I know he’s coming off an injury but doesn’t really matter, defence is what you need, IQ, leadership... and Kawhi is an MVP sleeper
Christopher Rahi Kawhi has been amazing for us but fr Lowry has been in his bag this szn so far. He’s winning us a lot of games
Hes been sitting out 1 night of a back to back essentially eliminating himself from contention
@@nickmitchell7584 they gave it to Nash back to back with that kind of stat line
If in the end kawhi doesn't miss more than 15 games total I don't see any problem
Best player in the team with best record just this simple
Kawhi is definitely deserving of mvp considered how NBA has always chosen mvp
@@tpsam and we all know Nash didnt deserve those mvps
@@nickmitchell7584 nash more than deserved those mvps don't disrespect the man
luca doncic... he is the most rounded rookie. good size, can play 1,2,3,4 position and can play defense. he can fit very well to any team, because he learn the "European way" which is play team basketball, give up a good shot for a great shot mentality.
Most undervalued could potentially be the Chicago Bulls. I was expecting them to compete for an 8th or 7th seed this year but half the rotation has been out. They get Lauri back soon followed by Dunn and Portis. And Zach is playing all star level rn. Idk kinda a sleeper
"Friends" its just one word... please #bringbacktheoldintro
Sad that TJ Warren doesn't get any recognition for the insane improvements he's made just because he's on the Suns. Went from being an awful three point shooter to shooting 50/40/90.
No talk about Alonzo Trier for ROTY?😐
who
Embiid, Giannis, LeBron, AD, Kawhi in the MVP race imho
not even mentioning Collin Sexton or even Shai Gilgeous-Alexander for ROTY is a crime
What does Donc mean?is it a good thing?
Skeets with the Tenacious D reference!! Wonderrrrboy
Steph Currency, Keita Bates-Guap, Penny Hardaway
Brook Lopez is a 7ft Kyle Korver
Not even a mention for Domas. How long will people sleep on the Pacers
I miss "friends" by Leigh
Hahaha me too
Eric Hansen They needa bring it back TBH, it's an extra like 10 seconds
Josh Richardson for MIP
no samir
@@JynxCrypticGaming lol
@@JynxCrypticGaming It's debatable
It's always a guy from a +500 team so no
Pascal has like 69% TS with a ridiculous .220 WS / 48m guarding 1-4 as needed. Ofc this comes from being a 3rd option on the team with the most Ws but no way lavine scores 15 on .650 on the raptors deep team lol
kemba is a easy must watch imo
So the Dwight Howard story just don’t exist?
Only Rose's story exists for the Starters
Christian Acevedo it’s cause it’s most likely fake, I would personally say it’s 100% fake
Im dying to see the starters crew play king of the court common fellas
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Derrick Rose can't become the candidate for most improved player of the year? why is that though?
My tweet made it onto the starters.... #Blessed
Derrick Rose is 6 man of the year, mark my words
Joel @ 10:12 "Oh no my MVP chances"
RIP Stephen Hillenburg (SpongeBob SquarePants creator)
danny green was a sweetener, was a dear spur, spurs miss him dearly,
WHAT ABOUT MCGEE FOR MOST IMPROVED???
its an insult for Tobias to be on the most improved top four. Tobias was already really good...
Skeets shirt always catches my eye coz I own the same one lol :D
Why aren’t kemba and dame in the talks for MVP
Luka is a no brainer for Rookie of the Year
Kemba is not the MIP?...
Craziest stat is d rose with 50 pts
Harden ain't 'carrying' his team when he's taking up nearly every possession, has an insane amount of turnovers and his team loses. He's had great games despite that many turnovers offensively but it ain't carrying if his opposing point guard is scoring a ton every game, his teammates stand in the corners with no chance of contributing offensively other than 'providing spacing', his team is having the worst defense in the league by a countrymile and they lose 4 in a row. Rockets are only slightly undervalued at the moment, they are multiple pieces away from being top3/4 in the West but only one injury to either CP3/Harden or Capela from potentially missing the playoffs. Morey decided to massively overpay CP3 (not specifically this year but over the course of the contract) and it's backfiring. Even when fully healthy Rockets lack the depth to even cope with injuries to rotation players.
Sorry, James Harden, you're doing what you can but this is heroball at it's finest and worst.
I wanna hear them talk about the twolves for once. We were talked about all the time when our locker room was a soap opera. Now that we are winning we have disappeared from discussion
Bryn Forbes Most Improved
Tel Aviv fan of yours! 15:15
He walked at 11:30
DROSE FOR MIP HANDS DOWN!!
Where my mans Jordan thoughh
The spongebob on the right side to represent the death of his creator. RIP
AD avg 27-13-5 and not even discussed for mvp, smh :(
Jimmy paid the most dividends hands down
It's unbelievable how the first seed in the west already has 6 losses.
East have improved but West have gone insanely competitive. Not a real surprise to me.
1st to 14th seed are very competitive for the playoffs in the west
Should've replaced Lebron with Kawhi in that MVP discussion.
wiley schmitt. I would expect Lebron haters to be the ones having videos where they drink urine lol!
It's not hating on him, it's quite agreed upon by anyone who's paying any attention to the league this season. And tell me what you think is so bad about drinking urine?
Thought it was a joke in the title but I saw the video, damn when are you gonna start eating shit lmao
Go ahead and keep proving your ignorance about something that you clearly know nothing at all about, and the 'eating shit' retort shows that you have no clue about anything and should cease with the juvenile quips before looking utterly foolish later. And why are you browsing my channel after what I originally said about Kawhi being a better MVP candidate at this time compared to Lebron?? Seems like a very odd reason to troll the channel.
Tas weirds me out when he keeps looking st the camera at every angle. Lol
nobody wants to HODL Suns and Hawks #HodLGangSuns #HodLGangHawks
Where’s Wendell in Roy debate?
He's been pretty average.
He is ok but not on the same conversation as The Donc and Ayton
Jaren Jackson jr is starting and has a good record
Vooch for MIP surely
Mavs fans knew it! Doncic ROTY
shae gilgeous alexander not even on the list?
Bring the old intro guys
Lavine isn't playing any better than he did 2 years ago. Just taking more shots cuz his team is real bad. You could argue he was better two years ago, his 3pt% is down and his overall eff% is down. The bulls have the worst offense in the league, they just suck ass and someones gotta shoot it
MIP an sixth man is Rose
Larry fiNANCE jr.
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Ben simmons the real ROTY
Y’all disrespect the pacers
WHERE IS JORDAN??
The saw the opening graphic and clicked lol
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It is Lavine for most approved player, and for rookie of the year it is Wenndell Carter Jr. And the player to watch out for is Wenndell Carter Jr.
Bulls fan I see I can agree with Levine but doncic is doing waaaaay better than Wendell rn
@@bavikahlon7362 um no Wenndell Carter Jr. Is way better than Donic.
Facts
I can see your favorite team is clearly the Charlotte Hornets.
@@bavikahlon7362 Just let them be, bulls fans being day dreaming like this for years
So y'all gonna just play Blake Griffin for MVP...?
Why the thumbnail stock market lmao nba
did you miss the entire show?
@@snuffmeister6720 He's probably just young and doesn't understand haha
I really hope your first name is richard. DICK WANG the legend
Dwyane Wade says a guy named himself DWade on RUclips 🤦🏻♂️
@@richardwang1007 Haha Chill. Can't you take a joke lol
KEEP HATING ON THE CLIPPERS LEIGH
You don't think bron is MVP, your smoking something
Why James Harden isn't on the list of MVPs ???
Team record and back to back are very difficult
But if rockets get top 3 record HARDEN can win it for sure he's carrying it like a titan rockets are a worse team compared to last season
Agree
They want Giannis to not the same guy, it's a business
Still too early to judge logically
What's with the potato quality?
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Luka!!!!!
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Wonder why Lebron didn’t play last night
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Griffin Peterson your not wrong
Wait...are you the real JR Smith? haha
JJ James i am actually lol jk I’m not
Hey, I'm here pretty early
LightningMo3 okay?
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is doing more for his team and helping them win, yet you don't rate him in the ROY conversation? Lmao!! Y'all don't even know ball.
javale mcgee most improve GTFOH, dont' @ me either.. and he's in the running for defensive player of the year..
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Is it truly surprising that Memphis is in first, when refs have clearly handed them several games this year
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Have they ever played basketball?
Luka rookie of the year cmon now
Foh Kawhi is mvp so far
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NEED INTROS
lmao I remember laron profit
no "friends"
Mvp:Curry or Kawhi
My rookie of the year is Deandre Ayton. Argue with me if you want it’s up to you
Christopher Rahi lol no need for argument don't worry
Luka doncic might make the allstar team if he improves on scoring so yeah...
Christopher Rahi LUKA
Suns are basically tanking right now
Josh Jensen I LOVE LUKA DONCIC! But sadly I don’t think he gets it over Deandre Ayton
Hi staters lol GUD