I've had success heating a metal ruler with a hot air gun, then using that to press against these strips. Much better control over heat, as you can let the ruler cool off more or less as needed. Need oven gloves of some sort though.
Good idea. You would need quite a lot of workspace though. :) It should also be mentioned that there exists T shaped soldering iron tips that are made specifically for these situations and some even come with silicon rubber to help even the pressure without overheating the cable. You can get cheap ones directly from Asia on aliexpress for example. Another solution that doesn't involve soldering is to use pressure just like when you press down around the edge with your fingers. You could for example cut strips of rubber and place them over the cable on the PCB then screw everything back on tight. Add more layers until you get the best result while not deforming the plastics. This additional pressure if often enough to restore the contacts before attempting anything else.
Even a steam iron without the steam would be better than a soldering iron. There's a video from Markusfuller where he uses one to fix an MC-505 LCD screen.
I remember being about fifteen in Christmas 1997. I was at Wal*Mart checking out what's new for the season (Star Trek / Star Wars figures primarily) when I saw this on display. I toyed around with it for about five minutes and for the time, it wasn't half bad. It touted internet capability which was basically unheard of back then, but little did you know that browsing the super information highway would be text base only. Sucks seeing this had the ability to draw graphics.
I could hardly believe my eyes when this video showed up in my subscription feed. Great to see another video from you. It's a good thing you and I derive much of our enjoyment of consoles while working on them, because this one is not a great deal of fun to play.
I admire the gall of using an iron; I'd have thought a hot air rework station would be the right tool. Thanks for documenting in any case, brings me back to the GBA Afterburner days!
I've used a metal strip in the past, laid over the ribbon cable and gently stroked with a soldering iron , helps to spread the heat out a bit and stop heating 1 spot too much
I can't believe you messed up a quick and simple fix due to impatience.. It was clearly working and there a tons of tutorials online on how to correctly "re-flow" such a ribbon cable.
That particular style of connector is notorious for causing partial screen failures. It uses a heat activated adhesive, rather than solder to adhere to the glass screen and/or PCB, which requires much less heat to affix. The plastic ribbon cable, although heat tolerant, has a much lower melting point than that of solder so care should be taken to avoid overheating as this could damage the cable or break the screen. I have repaired a few devices with this type of connection and find that using hot air, set to around 150°C, and a small tubular object as a kind of rolling pin works best.
Just took mine out of storage and it was in the same condition (lines). You can buy a soldering iron tip with a silicone attachment, meant to do this job. metal on the plastic strip will melt it, the heat from the silicone covered soldering tip won't melt it, but reactivate the glue. I originally purchased the iron for a computer LCD of mine, but will try it on this. Other people had success with a hair dryer and pressure.
I would have tried liquid flux and applied a little heat to try to reflow them contacts. Shame it didn't work out, better luck next time. Glad to see you back again.😁
It's a shame these are such a pain to work on. I have a system with similar issues and thought maybe I could crack it open and wiggle a cable or something, but after seeing your video I realize it's a lot more complex to deal with than it's worth.
So happy mine still works. For some reason I really like it, games are on the slow side and most aren't that good but better then some Atari 2600 games. I haven't seen my stylus since I got the thing.
Is it a bespoke screen that's in there then? I have an old Game.Com and I was thinking about trying to replace the screen with something a bit better, as the screen are notoriously hard to see and suffer from motion blur. Mine also has a bit of leakage. Something with a back-light would definitely make a huge difference to a Game.Com.
Awww bugger. I use a hot air gun on Gameboys as you said. Definitely gives you a bit more temperature control. I had completely forgotten this console existed. 😀👍🏻
That's shame it didn't work out, but on the bright side it was a good learning experience, relatively cheap and if/when you get another one, you'll have more experience + extra parts to cannibalise if necessary.
I've had good luck repairing virtual boy lcds with a heat gun. I heat it up a little and then press down on the connection with a rubber eraser and let it cool, that seems to be a lot safer than the soldering iron method although it's not without it's own risk.
I'm sorry to see that it didn't work out, but as a titbit for the future, whenever you attempt a reflow on ribbon cables, always cover it with a strip of kapton tape, it reduces the chance of melting it significantly.
That thing was way a head of it's time and had some big name titles on it, shame they didn't make an updated model with more power. Any chance of you doing a top 10 N-GAGE games video.
Does anybody know what kind of glue they use to fix such flexible plastic ribbon cables to a circuit board? I'm guessing it's some sort of conductive glue. But how do they apply it so it doesn't short out across the traces? I've ruined several different machines trying to repair stuff like this
Just wanna let you know man that your videos inspired me to start restoring my own faulty stuff! Really feels like diving into a new passion of mine, so thank you! Wouldn't have discovered it without your content!
I give it points for having a D-button, most companies seem to use small two to three letter alphabets heh. I'm all for original restoration but when it comes to the Game Com I think any new touch screens would be better. Maybe backlight mod it, make it better than it was.
hmmm has to be a way of doing this in a better way i wonder if you can use a clothes iron try on low to high bit at a time also a larger coverage rather than small solder iron?
i have one of these i got of ebay a couple of years ago for 42usd including shipping from usa to new zealand came with 7 games and was almost mint condition
Calyn G Usually lines on a game gear are due to the ic corresponding to the display. If you get your iron and heat up the one to the right you'll notice some lines appear again, but they almost immediately disappear again. There is no real fix other than paying $100 for a McWill Screen (which is honestly worth the money if you're emotionally attached like me and have a good library of games) or you could strip it to try to make it into a consolized game gear. Cheers!
When you are watching old RetroGameTech videos and you get a notification for a new RetroGameTech video, you have to change your pants after. Or is that just me? Also i unfortunately have to buy one of these for my Resident Evil collection. Know of any mods that will make the games look better? Besides pepper spraying yourself that is.
"I'm going to use parts from these two consoles to make one good one." It'd still be a Game.com. Still, they came up with The Furby a year later so they did something right.
Little known fact: it was called the "game com". Everyone knows it as the "game dot com" because of the "dot com" boom still at full force. Also, it could read into a sort of leaderboard online and had two slots for cartridges. The system's screen was "resistive" which had to be pushed to click, not the "capacitive" screens which we know today.
I don't normally like videos I like.....because I suck and just move on to the next video with my attention span. But I'll like your videos more if it means you'll continue to make them. It sucks waiting for months to see the next one :(
Police responded to a call reporting loud shouting and what sounded like furniture being thrown around. They broke the door down and found a disheveled man sitting on the floor in front of a Tiger Game.com he had been trying to take the screen out of.
Glad you posted this. I think you were pretty much doomed from the start. Not a quality item and poorly designed and assembled. The DMG is a lot better in layout and quality. This is a poor competitor. But well done for trying. 👍
Well, no success at repairing the screen, so I removed it completely to expose the 11 LCD pins on the mainboard. Interesting fact, the touchscreen digitizer? Yeah, that's not even soldered down. It's held down to the pads via adhesive, pads, and pressure from the plastic frame screwed down. So I am going to see if I can figure out how to put a backlit touchscreen LCD in it.
Clearly these things were never meant to be serviced considering how the wires connecting to the screen were soldered to it rather than being connected to a header.
Ah well, it’s not a big loss. The game con, one fine piece of whang chung low engineering..... apprearantly mark from classic game room used it to tease his video editor with one of these. He always looked foreward playing the game con.
Too bad about the Game.com, but at least you can chuck in a Raspberry Pi in it with a new screen. Someone has already done this with an old Tiger handheld.
Don't play with my emotions. Don't come back into my life if you're just gonna leave again...
I've had success heating a metal ruler with a hot air gun, then using that to press against these strips. Much better control over heat, as you can let the ruler cool off more or less as needed. Need oven gloves of some sort though.
Fracture nice idea. I shall try that 👍🏻
Good idea. You would need quite a lot of workspace though. :)
It should also be mentioned that there exists T shaped soldering iron tips that are made specifically for these situations and some even come with silicon rubber to help even the pressure without overheating the cable.
You can get cheap ones directly from Asia on aliexpress for example.
Another solution that doesn't involve soldering is to use pressure just like when you press down around the edge with your fingers. You could for example cut strips of rubber and place them over the cable on the PCB then screw everything back on tight. Add more layers until you get the best result while not deforming the plastics. This additional pressure if often enough to restore the contacts before attempting anything else.
Even a steam iron without the steam would be better than a soldering iron. There's a video from Markusfuller where he uses one to fix an MC-505 LCD screen.
Talk about a quality system, such classic games as...
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...surely a classic!
Two videos in a month? Man! I could get used to you being back!
This is the only channel that makes me feel the way that early youtube made me feel. Keep up the great work man, you’re awesome to watch!
I remember being about fifteen in Christmas 1997. I was at Wal*Mart checking out what's new for the season (Star Trek / Star Wars figures primarily) when I saw this on display. I toyed around with it for about five minutes and for the time, it wasn't half bad. It touted internet capability which was basically unheard of back then, but little did you know that browsing the super information highway would be text base only. Sucks seeing this had the ability to draw graphics.
Love these! Good to see you back :)
So glad to see another video!
I could hardly believe my eyes when this video showed up in my subscription feed. Great to see another video from you.
It's a good thing you and I derive much of our enjoyment of consoles while working on them, because this one is not a great deal of fun to play.
since both screens are dead, maybe you should try to take the ribbon cable off one device and install it into the other
impressed you ever share the ones that fail. valiant effort none the less.
Finally man you’re back. You’re the only tech channel I actually like.
Nice vid...good to see a scenario once in a while that even someone as skilled as you cannot fix.
This boi is picking up the heat on video making again and somehow i am not the only one who appreciates it
When is part 2 of the gba coming?
Major props. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do a teardown on a game.com
I admire the gall of using an iron; I'd have thought a hot air rework station would be the right tool. Thanks for documenting in any case, brings me back to the GBA Afterburner days!
You’re back! :D
*hugs* yayyy! My favourite console repairer is back!!
Wow I thought your channel was dead! Glad to see you uploading again, you should do a lot more your channel could be super popular! :)
I've used a metal strip in the past, laid over the ribbon cable and gently stroked with a soldering iron , helps to spread the heat out a bit and stop heating 1 spot too much
Can’t win them all
Cosmo Rea Spoiler alert jesus..... Lol
Spoiler...
But not having a game com to play on, is it really a bad thing?
I can't believe you messed up a quick and simple fix due to impatience.. It was clearly working and there a tons of tutorials online on how to correctly "re-flow" such a ribbon cable.
I remember this coming out when I was a kid, now I feel old!
Glad to see another video from you, man. I hope that you do more soon!
glad to see you back, you should do the next video on that "best ebay deal ever" you mentioned in that backlog video long ago. The one with shantae
Really glad you're back with the vids! Keep up the awesome work :)
That particular style of connector is notorious for causing partial screen failures. It uses a heat activated adhesive, rather than solder to adhere to the glass screen and/or PCB, which requires much less heat to affix. The plastic ribbon cable, although heat tolerant, has a much lower melting point than that of solder so care should be taken to avoid overheating as this could damage the cable or break the screen.
I have repaired a few devices with this type of connection and find that using hot air, set to around 150°C, and a small tubular object as a kind of rolling pin works best.
This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for as I have a similar repair that I need to do. Thanks!
Just took mine out of storage and it was in the same condition (lines). You can buy a soldering iron tip with a silicone attachment, meant to do this job. metal on the plastic strip will melt it, the heat from the silicone covered soldering tip won't melt it, but reactivate the glue. I originally purchased the iron for a computer LCD of mine, but will try it on this. Other people had success with a hair dryer and pressure.
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I would have tried liquid flux and applied a little heat to try to reflow them contacts. Shame it didn't work out, better luck next time. Glad to see you back again.😁
I swear, I've seen one of these before. I remember liking it when I was a kid.
glad to see you back
It's a shame these are such a pain to work on. I have a system with similar issues and thought maybe I could crack it open and wiggle a cable or something, but after seeing your video I realize it's a lot more complex to deal with than it's worth.
Would it be possible for you to show your 2018 Gaming Setup? Please :) Thanks!
Now you feel the same as me after I watched your video on repairing GBC screen and try it on my broken Gameboy :D
So happy mine still works. For some reason I really like it, games are on the slow side and most aren't that good but better then some Atari 2600 games. I haven't seen my stylus since I got the thing.
Is it a bespoke screen that's in there then?
I have an old Game.Com and I was thinking about trying to replace the screen with something a bit better, as the screen are notoriously hard to see and suffer from motion blur. Mine also has a bit of leakage.
Something with a back-light would definitely make a huge difference to a Game.Com.
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Victory! Oh wait... Nevermind. Seems to be common fault point for these old LCD's.
i love all you content! Keep up the good work!
tell me, what kind of train is it? graphite? how many tracks? and what is the step of the track?
Love your videos, please keep posting 😊
@RetroGameTech did you went back to the UK?
Awww bugger. I use a hot air gun on Gameboys as you said. Definitely gives you a bit more temperature control. I had completely forgotten this console existed. 😀👍🏻
That's shame it didn't work out, but on the bright side it was a good learning experience, relatively cheap and if/when you get another one, you'll have more experience + extra parts to cannibalise if necessary.
I've had good luck repairing virtual boy lcds with a heat gun. I heat it up a little and then press down on the connection with a rubber eraser and let it cool, that seems to be a lot safer than the soldering iron method although it's not without it's own risk.
I'm sorry to see that it didn't work out, but as a titbit for the future, whenever you attempt a reflow on ribbon cables, always cover it with a strip of kapton tape, it reduces the chance of melting it significantly.
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That thing was way a head of it's time and had some big name titles on it, shame they didn't make an updated model with more power.
Any chance of you doing a top 10 N-GAGE games video.
what do you search on eBay to find broken stuff to fix. I can never find any
Can we get the screen replaced with modern ips screen?
I have a couple of these with this same screen problem. Seems common. I was hopeful for a fix :(
so from the other one you already have there is nothing that could fix this 'new' one ?
use to play resident evil and Jurassic park on my old one when i was younger
What's going on with the Game Boy project?
are you using kodak life batteries? :P
Does anybody know what kind of glue they use to fix such flexible plastic ribbon cables to a circuit board? I'm guessing it's some sort of conductive glue. But how do they apply it so it doesn't short out across the traces? I've ruined several different machines trying to repair stuff like this
Did you find a way to get it fixed in 2022
Just wanna let you know man that your videos inspired me to start restoring my own faulty stuff! Really feels like diving into a new passion of mine, so thank you! Wouldn't have discovered it without your content!
I would suggest just to put some thin rubber strip on the connection, so it forces some pressure on it..
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Hi dude, I wanted to know if I sent you a 3ds that isn't working would you be able to fix it
I give it points for having a D-button, most companies seem to use small two to three letter alphabets heh. I'm all for original restoration but when it comes to the Game Com I think any new touch screens would be better. Maybe backlight mod it, make it better than it was.
hmmm has to be a way of doing this in a better way i wonder if you can use a clothes iron try on low to high bit at a time also a larger coverage rather than small solder iron?
Using an ice cube tray is a good tip, why have I never thought of that?!
How do you find faulty hardware? I never seem to be able to..
Agathi Yes a massive losses tho
Love your videos.
Just got one today, same screen issue. Tried to fix it, no dice so far. These things are designed quite crappy, if I must say so.
i have one of these i got of ebay a couple of years ago for 42usd including shipping from usa to new zealand came with 7 games and was almost mint condition
What about the game gear?
Calyn G Usually lines on a game gear are due to the ic corresponding to the display. If you get your iron and heat up the one to the right you'll notice some lines appear again, but they almost immediately disappear again. There is no real fix other than paying $100 for a McWill Screen (which is honestly worth the money if you're emotionally attached like me and have a good library of games) or you could strip it to try to make it into a consolized game gear. Cheers!
Finally love your videos
bumpb for updates on repair. Mine is doing it and I want to safely repair it without burning the ribbon
You should pick up a cheap heat gun station. I repaired a DMG 01 with lines in 2-3 minutes with my station.
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When you are watching old RetroGameTech videos and you get a notification for a new RetroGameTech video, you have to change your pants after. Or is that just me?
Also i unfortunately have to buy one of these for my Resident Evil collection. Know of any mods that will make the games look better? Besides pepper spraying yourself that is.
LazyJackal using an emulator, if game com emulators even exist, is probably the only way to view the games with any kind of clarity.
I hope no one has actually put effort into a gamecom emulator.They'd be a sad soul indeed.
"I'm going to use parts from these two consoles to make one good one."
It'd still be a Game.com. Still, they came up with The Furby a year later so they did something right.
For how much would you fix mine?
Little known fact: it was called the "game com". Everyone knows it as the "game dot com" because of the "dot com" boom still at full force.
Also, it could read into a sort of leaderboard online and had two slots for cartridges. The system's screen was "resistive" which had to be pushed to click, not the "capacitive" screens which we know today.
Game Interest the Nintendo ds line use the same sort of screen hence why a stylus is recommended
Unlucky with the screen! Have you got any advice for anybody else attempting that repair, something that can be learnt from your mistakes? :)
I don't normally like videos I like.....because I suck and just move on to the next video with my attention span. But I'll like your videos more if it means you'll continue to make them. It sucks waiting for months to see the next one :(
Next time, try using Kapton tape so you don't apply the iron directly to the traces. I find it works a lot better.
Police responded to a call reporting loud shouting and what sounded like furniture being thrown around. They broke the door down and found a disheveled man sitting on the floor in front of a Tiger Game.com he had been trying to take the screen out of.
Glad you posted this. I think you were pretty much doomed from the start. Not a quality item and poorly designed and assembled. The DMG is a lot better in layout and quality. This is a poor competitor. But well done for trying. 👍
It’s pronounced without the “dot.” as you will hear when it starts up :-P
It needed a better LCD. The emulator shows how much better the games could look.
Lol! That game.com was garbage when it came off the assembly line. That "defect" is an improvement! Har Har!
Well, no success at repairing the screen, so I removed it completely to expose the 11 LCD pins on the mainboard. Interesting fact, the touchscreen digitizer? Yeah, that's not even soldered down. It's held down to the pads via adhesive, pads, and pressure from the plastic frame screwed down. So I am going to see if I can figure out how to put a backlit touchscreen LCD in it.
Clearly these things were never meant to be serviced considering how the wires connecting to the screen were soldered to it rather than being connected to a header.
Damn it's been forever, had to did double take scrolling through the videos
Ah well, it’s not a big loss. The game con, one fine piece of whang chung low engineering..... apprearantly mark from classic game room used it to tease his video editor with one of these. He always looked foreward playing the game con.
I still have my old game.com with a couple games..
How they managed to assemble the thing is beyond me.
Unlucky about that screen.
Too bad about the Game.com, but at least you can chuck in a Raspberry Pi in it with a new screen. Someone has already done this with an old Tiger handheld.
I fixed a screen with a soldering iron by placing tin foil on the ribbon and running the soldering iron over the top.
Love the video
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I was waiting for the April fool
Apparently they are called Game Com for some reason?!
Seeing the construction of that thing, the only thing I'm thinking about now is what kinds of drugs the engineering team was on.
No to be picky but the globe was a logo not a dot. So the official name was the Game Com.