My mother is an ENFJ and she confides in me that she does indeed think that people are "stupid" or "ridiculous." However, no one realizes what she thinks because she's too kind. I laughed out loud at that.
Hope that you get better soon, Nathan. You're very apt, especially with the INFJ section. I have an active inner imagination, so much so, that I often forget to ACTUALLY live it out!
As an INTJ I can agree with you about INTJ's being optimistic. As much as I rail against the overall incompetence of people, and have to remind myself everyone else is an idiot to keep my blood pressure in check. At heart I want people to be competent, I always give people the benefit of the doubt, even after all these years.
INFP here in his 20s. It's really timely because I really feel like the world is unfair and I can't do anything about it. It bothers me because of the possibility of what if the world we believe in doesn't really exist? A world where people are in harmony amd everyone gets what they want and be their authentic selves. But some people just have bad intentions. And that's what makes it unfair and kind of... meaningless to be good. We don't want goodness to seem meaningless. It's what we put our faith in. A better world. Some kind of paradise.
I think the world might be unfair, but as a person u don't have to be. Most people have reasons for being unfair. But it's kinda meaningless to just think about or talk about it if u don't take actions to at least even out some of the unfairness. But there it gets tricky and corrupted and without power u can't gain power. I can relate to the hope and belief. I feel rather hopeless after 33 years on this planet beside human beings because I see the rotten parts but I don't have the power and never seeked it.
Just start in your own world. Spread awareness on social media and try not to let the injustices get to you that much that it gets you down I've been almost on nervous breakdown at times knowing such cruelty even exists
It is true. I'm an ISTP and I long for the feeling of being alone most of the time because I get really tired when exposed to social interactions for too long. But even so, I cannot lie about how sad and depressive it can be to really feel like you don't have anyone by your side. This sometimes can lead to the paranoia of thinking that no one likes you, that everyone hates you just because you are... you. I've hit that bottom so many times... it's hard, but we will never say it out loud. Maybe because of the shame, maybe because of distrust, I don't know.
I have an ISTP friend that I can tell goes through this and I feel for him sometimes. However, due to his inferior Fe, he has made some bad choices, involving me in some mess, so now I'm wondering if this is how he gets in his difficult situations because he doesn't know how to properly deal with loved ones/ friends
@@kellikakes81 no ISTP knows how to deal with any social link they have, whether is family, love interest or friends. To have these figured out you must be very healthy, which most of us are not. When we hit our low, we are prior to make the worst choices, isolate ourselves and have our mind blown up with thoughts and doubts about what everyone think about us and why we care so much. So next time you see your ISTP friend on that low state again, just let them know what you really think and feel about them. Just be truthful, because at that state everything sounds like lies.
Agree with infp wholeheartedly. The way I personally got over that is the realisation that some (maybe even the majority) of people are just not phased as being cogs in the machine, and if that's the case - please keep on cogging away you beautiful people. It's the cogs and gears which have been forced into spots they cannot fit, but cannot see that the reason they are not moving in tandem and causing chaos to all the other cogs around them are because they were forced into a space they shouldn't be, and now they only see themselves as not the right cog, when in fact they could have been a damn good spanner (I know nothing about mechanics and it irks me that I cannot make a better metaphor). If someone is not happy with their place in the machine, then it's their responsibility to find their place and it's the machines responsibility to allow that to happen
Spent the whole day at my cog job creating music and vibing out. I should've taken a personal day, but inspiration is often if not always spontaneous smh
As an INTP, the key is to realise everything cannot be done, and projects need to be prioritised by the level of fulfilment it brings. It’s amazing how much we can get done if we can just pick one thing to do
I am an ENTP and this was so point on. When people or questionares ask me to define myself I literally stumble. It's like seeing a box in the room but not being able to unlock it. I used to get so frustrated with this but now that I've learned this much about typology, I have come to terms with this side about me .
There is an Arabic poem i think she describes an ENTP . Group of human She asked, who are you? And I replied to her; I'm a group of human. From anything against or the opposite, you will find something inside me. 1 Inside me, you will find day and night happiness and sadness. I laugh while my tears wander in the middle of my eyes.
ENTPs have a tendency to identify themselves with their “skills” so to speak. Like if they are a good musician, they will identify themselves as musicians. So when they start to doubt their “skills” the identity tends to kind of fall apart. ENTPs identify themselves with the external world rather than the internal (Fe function), while ENFPs(for example) bc of their Fi just kind of “know” who they are. ENFPs in my experience are extremely robust in their identity. But ENTPs look to the external world to seek identity and might become abnoxius attention whores when insecure. Constantly looking for approval and asking people for input and looking at people to identify them.
INTP here and this was spot on (Although I do relate to the ENTP quite a bit too. Maybe it's the Ne) . I found that writing helps with communicating my thoughts instead of verbalising it. I'm trying to get better at both, though. I have to listen to it in my head before saying it out loud. It stresses me out that I am slow to react to things only because of how slow I am at articulating myself. Hope you feel better soon. Covid is a real pain in the ass.
My fiance is intp, I am infp. I have problems verbalizing my thoughts. In the beginning of our relationship we wrote a lot about thoughts, experiences, opinions and on and on. It helped us to be confident and trusting each other and today we usually speak out what is in us even if it takes time. But still, if there's something truly bugging me I write him about it, it's better because I can overthink sentences or explain deeper or be more structured. In a conversation I feel pressured and stressed and most people don't give me the time to end my thoughts verbally. And yeah, my intp has a deep mind but he actually rarely open up his gates what is sad to me because I enjoy listening him. It's kinda weird when we both r filled with thoughts and yet don't know what to talk about and just stay silent for minutes.
İ also felt the same way and at the articulating part i have a story in my head but i am just too lazy to write it lol İDK if that made any sense at all
As an INTJ, I have never thought that about myself until you articulated it. I will say I agree with the analysis you mentioned. I am also shocked that it is true.
Ambitious realist EXACTLY describes by INTJ husband. As an INFP, I do find him very idealistic in a lot of ways which is why we are such a great match, but he considers himself a realist lol.... he spends his life optimizing everything around him to make it function better. Systems, relationships, his workplace, etc. And what frustrates him is that he can see how great something could be if people would stop messing it up lol. So to him it isn't being idealistic because he knows that realistically his goals are 100% achievable if everyone would just listen to him lol. I love him so much and I admire how everything he touches he makes better. That is such an admirable quality to have, and I love how he has optimized our marriage over the last 12 years. We almost never have arguments anymore lol. INFPs get yourself an INTJ and thank me later!
Ooh this is why I (or ENFPs) like INTJs. Because I can tell their cynicism is just a cover for DREAMS hahaha. And they can tell I'm a little worn out sometimes on being so enthusiastic and I feel like I can just admit that to them without them finding it alarming or incongruous with still wanting to have many ideas.
ISTP here, you are spot on. I have finally accepted that I need people, and really like them. It's just this damned low fe that stops me interacting more. I literally don't know what to say to people and it drives me up the wall. Get well soon. ✌️
(ISTP here) I've learned that doing things for people gives me the opportunity to interact with them on a social emotional level. It is draining nonetheless but WAY BETTER than staying home alone sad and depressed. Plus, the more I do it, the easier it gets.
You’re on point with the ENFJ. People don’t listen to me only to ‘magically’ come to the same conclusions days to years later. And I hate how stupid people can be, especially myself xD
Wow the self abuse at the end , typical enfj behavior , and exactly why I can't admit thinking poeple are stupid cause last time I checked I was also " people "
02:10 I just got called out so hard- I've basically become a hikikomori and I just feel so lonely and useless all the time but I can't get myself to actually do anything about it I'm just in survival mode due to my mental and physical health so I often feel like I'm going to die without ever doing anything with all the knowledge and big ideas I've accumulated because I can't ever create or structure anything I think of properly before I become tired of it entirely, only to come back to it later but it's just an endless cycle of trying to find a purpose but then giving up
As an INTJ, I can say I agree with your statement here. I think most of us would be more idealistic if we were able to believe in people. I think our lack in the belief of others to be idealistic about extremely elementary issues leads to our pessimism. Our frustrations comes from the lack of our ideals, so we choose to just be “realistic” about it and simplify it by saying humans are not capable of creating the most ideal situation for any occurrence. Feelings, political affiliations, laziness, etc. will never go away. Therefore, ideal group outcomes are impossible.
As an INFJ...I even agree with that. And I call it realistic to lose faith in humans acheiving idealism or perfection. That includes myself. Not sure most INTJs would include themselves in that. As it turns out I have a sibling who is an INTJ.
You don't live up to your best possible selves. You live up to your idea of what your best possible self is, but that doesn't mean you are actually being your best self. Your concept of what the ideal world and people that live in said world is small and clouded by your own perception. Unless you and every human on this planet can harness the best parts of all personalities, whilst shedding the worst, then we will never be ideal. We are all failures to some degree and we are never being are best possible selves. Yes, some strive harder to work on themselves, but again what that person thinks is best, doesn't mean it actually is the best version of themselves. If INTJ's were actually trying to be the best possible person they could possible be, well, then you guys would be better at relationships.
Completely agree on the Idealism. I've said before the reason why I seem so jaded with the world is because I can see what the world COULD be, and seeing it not be that way is frustrating.
@@Chrupignat i agree with you. I think immature INTJs are still idealist until they have a reason not to be anymore. As they mature, that idealism turns to pessimism. We identify with this pessimistic view of the world as realism.
Wishing you well, Nathan. You are one of the best in the MBTI community, thank you for your efforts and for this video. looking forward for your next one. Now take your time getting well.
This INFP is too optimistic to think we're doomed. :) I see the world as slowly progressing and sometimes simply wish it would happen faster. It's basically what you said about INTJs, on a societal scale - I see a lot of problems with society, but without pessimism; I see a lot of potential for improvement and believe things can get better.
as an ENFP, I honestly am losing hope that things are getting better. people automatically think progress is always going to happen, and as years go on, we get better. but that's not true. I think as years go on, we're regressing sometimes. look at Roe v Wade overturn in the US. my country has also become a lot more extremist in terms of religion over the last 20 years.
@@larsswig912 I feel ya. Progress is not a constant, linear thing. There are ups and downs, and sometimes things can regress for a while. But still, I think over the long term, things do improve, and the regressions will course-correct eventually.
@@Multitudes_ Yes, the arc of history bends not towards justice, but towards comfort. It is only when the comfortable become uncomfortable enough that they fight for something deemed better (or acquiesce to fights for more power by other outside groups). This means that history is not so much one arc, but many overlapping ones that show non-consistent movement towards perceived progress.
Middle aged INTP here. "INTPS: That their actions only capture a tiny amount of their brain's potential." Less than you might think, actually. I'm quite content NOT being the one who changes society to fit my whims or taking over the world. I've seen what people trying to control everything and everyone around them turns into and I want no part of it. I'm not arrogant enough to imagine I have all the answers, and the ones I'm confident I do have are answers people have to figure out and find the will to act upon for themselves. 😐 "Not only that, I think they also feel like they struggle greatly to verbalize their thoughts." Well, yeah. Have we not been making that clear already? 🤨
Early 30s INTP here, wholeheartedly agree with your first paragraph, but the second probably depends on the particular INTP. As a lawyer I can easily put my thoughts and feelings into words, in writing or verbally, though I will usually only do so when someone directly asks for it or when I sense there will be a non-trivial bad consequence for not doing so, or if I'm talking to one of the few people I really trust.
@@Scruffed There's a world of difference between making a legal argument and having a conversation about one's feelings, but yeah, I get what you mean.
@@mikaell7070 Apart from studying hard, try your best to be on the good graces of your fellow students even if they're annoying or dumb (you never know when you'll need a favor from them), and if you're interested in postgraduate studies, try to identify and develop a friendly relationship with the professors that teach the subject you'd aim to do further studies on (show them you're interested), and if possible also the Dean (or equivalent) of your faculty, their references and guidance can take you far.
@@jimclayson as an 18 year old intp I can explain my thoughts and feelings very clearly. All feelings I believe are logical and follow thought and survival, rather than truth. But INTPs don't just know truth, it's logic were good at. If you can see feelings and logical rather than valid, it would help. They're valid in the sense of the string that creates that feeling, but not particularly logical with other systems that should be more validated. It's all just systems. the body, brain, feelings, sensations, all of it is. But then again I have above average verbal IQ so maybe it's just that. I still picture it would help because it's what allowed me to identify feeling and the root thoughts behind them. I couldn't before these mindsets were developed.
Bruh I didn't come here to get personally attacked. As an ESFP: I have been exposed. That hit WAY to close to home. Yes I would like my feelings to just sometimes chill a bit out. Thank you very much.
ENTP here. I cannot use THC at all because it makes me introspective and I am so inexperienced with that reflection that it's overwhelming and makes me panicky. I literally never feel anxious sober, but then again I don't feel much at all and so to be uncontrollably bombarded with internal feelings all at once is horrible. I can't bear it. So yeah, maybe hollow is a bit much but it's definitely not what others are walking around experiencing.
One of my ENTP acquaintances is very anxious and depressed on the daily even though she doesn't dive into drugs like that. She likes food a lot though. She manages through therapy, self-help and medication.
As an infp thc does the opposite. It gives me trips of depersonalization and honestly it's kind of refreshing to analyze things without a care. But the more adopt that mindset into sobriety the less motivated and connected I find myself to life so...trying to find the balance that works for me.
I’m the same way. I used to enjoy getting high. I’d smoke all the time and then I reached a point where any time I was with other people I’d have full on panic attacks and then it started happening when I was alone. I think when I first started getting high it was exciting and made me go into a funny headspace where I’d think of ridiculous ideas, but then I started getting depressed and I started introspecting and getting deep into why I was feeling so depressed and anxious when I was high and it stopped being enjoyable.
Wow... You know the stuff. As Entp I never understood that I feel hollow. And I thought I'm actually lazy. Now, this makes sense 2 me. Otherwise, what you told about Entj is even my attitude as well... Going 4 ideas untill burnout.
INFP fearful that we are doomed but the upside is that everyday I wake and we are not in doom, immense joy, appreciation, and satisfaction comes from the ordinary life. And then the magic of doom not yet being apparent makes impossible things seem very possible. Hence high momentum for drifting into fantastical day dreams. Paradoxically being non present in the joy of presence.
I feel like INFPs often express that unfairness is inevitable and prevalent in society. It’s not something they’re afraid to point out, nor is the unfairness itself something frightening. Instead, I’d say that INFPs do not like to admit that they are fully capable of outshining other people but don’t do so out of politeness. We have the intelligence, the wit, the sass, but we will hold our comebacks to not hurt you. Even at the height of our anger we still try to hold our tongues and reword it to leave out attempts to offend. Many people underestimate INFPs and we leave it that way because actions speak for themselves and you can’t handle our raw self. I will let you think you won the debate because I’d rather let you be right and happy than wrong and hurt.
I agree about holding back and letting ourselves be underestimated in some ways. In some cases it's about sparing people's feelings, and in some cases it just doesn't feel worth the effort. We don't usually have a great need to prove ourselves to other people, so that alone is not enough of a motivation. When it comes to arguments or debates, I can't tell you how often I hold back from engaging, or just disengage at some point, because the issue is too complex to really do it justice without expending an amount of time and effort that is really disproportionate for the context and the impact it is likely to have there. And if I'm dealing with a very ignorant or toxic person, that adds a whole other layer of complexity in terms of untangling the mess in their mind enough for whatever ideas I'm presenting to actually get absorbed and digested, or for them to even be able to engage in the exchange in good faith - again, rarely worth the effort and rarely doable in a single exchange.
The thing about us INFPs holding back is from what i see, to be the KEY reason, why we can be so terrifying despite appearing so harmless most of the time, when we get so fed up that we just pull all stops. i've experienced moments where i really went out of my way to hurt people, really went prioritizing being right over anything else, & damn, i can almost see that wound spreading open on the other guy right in front of my eyes. what was even more terrifying about such experiences, was finding myself actually ENJOYING it.
INTJs...seeing endless possibilities for others to learn and grow, imagining the benefits for them and society, annoyed at ourselves for wasting time thinking about a plan not valued or seen by others and getting our hopes up, embarrassed should others discover how much we care (lashing out at the stupidity of others to avoid that embarrassment should fix that, everybody thinks we're heartless cynics now but hey, it was worth it, I think...)
My bestie is an INTJ and very much an idealist. I don't get where this cold mastermind stereotype comes from. Ni-Fi loop must be crazy to handle, at least more than Ni-Ti (INFJ). Feelings are a nightmare.
Agreed about INTJ. A state of INTJ is somehow a permanent disappointment with the world that doesn't work as INTJ supposes it to work and thus this world sucks or is always messy. We INTJ are the best critics in the world. (On the rights of selftype-irony^^)
Every day it feels like you meet someone, and they are like "I'd like to build a beautiful thing, but I keep intentionally smashing my hand with a hammer!" "So stop intentionally smashing your hand with the hammer." "HOW DARE YOU TELL ME TO STOP SMASHING MY HAND WITH A HAMMER!"
As an entj this video is quite accurate in my case, the reason it's so hard to slow down is because when entjs stop moving it can provide too much time to get counterproductively satisfied, when an entj stops trying to achieve something greater they lose their identity and purpose in life
One of my favorite fictional characters is (I think?) an ENTP. There is one part of the book where the character is going through a tough time and says something like, "When I looked in the mirror, I could tell from the expression on my face that I was upset."
I felt this. 😅 Being in a flux/semi-stressful life period at the moment, I've been keeping track of my state/how I feel by using an expanded Hawkins Scale that is tied to #'s. This is more helpful to me (and quicker) than journaling and using mood tracker apps that only have stupid emoticons. Initially, I made a grid sheet where I input an early AM, late AM, early PM, mid-PM + late PM #, then average out the 5 #'s for my end of day feelings score. I also have a separate little box for an end of day productivity # (1-10, low to high). These #'s are subsequently averages out by week and month. I aim to stay in the mid-to-high 200's. This is what provides the indication that I am doing more okay than not. I have recently transitioned to digitally logging on the Reflections app as it allows you to customize categories/filters to view my # records in one shot. Virtuology has a more extensive numbers/feelings breakout.
As INTJ. Yes, it's true, I want things not only to improve but to reach its potential, and that includes myself and everyone else. It's really hard to admit because it doesn't matter how much we try there's always one of many reasons that potential can't be achieved, so I resort to nihilism and crippling disappointment.
I'm afraid to live in such a dangerous world where I do not have an answer to worst case scenarios. But then I decided to relax and accept death if that has to happen tomorrow. Doing much better now! Thanks Nathan for the video and get well soon!
“INFPs. [sometimes admit] That they worry we might be doomed. Because unfairness might be a fundamental feature of society, and even life, overall. INFPs, archetypically, defend individuality against homogenized, standardized, and systematic structures. But, INFPs do also realize the power of those things. That there is a need for society to be structured in a certain way. They’re not blind to that. This presents a problem, namely, that their preferred way things should be might not be functional, or doable. If some people don’t function as cogs in the machine, then the machine won’t work. And maybe it needs to work, at least in some areas. The thought that unfairness is inevitable deeply bothers INFPs.”
Get better soon, Nathan! Thanks for all your effort and work to feed the MBTI community! With regards to ISFPs, though, the opposite is true for me. I used to want to fit in more when I was younger. I didn't want to admit that I had fomo, even if I acted otherwise. However, now that I'm older and had to forego events that would allow me to gain interpersonal connections, I had to learn the hard way to find less value in societal acceptance. And so I have. I've learned to care less about fitting in and to try to live my own life independent of what most people think of me. Come to think of it, I guess you're right...in describing some part of my life. 😄
As an intp, I don't have problems verbalizing. My only Issue is actually getting it across, not everyone's interested and I don't want to share with people who don't value it. It don't feel good to me and it spoils the flow as it's not compatible with them. I have adhd and potentially autism, as an intp I've struggled IMMENSELY with laziness but also intense productivity. Over the years I've developed systems of how I think things work, and they do work. I can be as productive as I choose. Whether I do it is different, but I can snap to it if I want to now. Went from 17% conscientiousness to 65%. (Big 5 trait). A lot of other traits have improved to. Lowered neuroticism and increased extraversion (as a result of focusing specifically on those dimensions, not particularly just improving in general that caused it). Theory first. Execution second. Assess, revise, repeat.
My husband is an INTP and I must say he verbalizes in a way that gives his theory's a real impact. As an ESFP, I am very receptive when it comes to anything that's not criticism. I could listen to him talk about different topics all day and it will be like an emotional rollercoaster sometimes because of all the different perspectives he gives me. I cherish it very much. There is no other like the INTP. ( Don't know how we made it this long because we are so opposite but here we are ) haha
The ENFP part is 1000000% true!! I actual tell people this tho, and some take it the wrong way because I usually only say the positive/ idealistic view of things out loud. (Unless you're close to me; you will get cynicism and optimism). Edit: hearing the INTJ version makes me understand why people put ENFP and INTJs together because I see we are the inverse of one another internally and externally and probably could immensely help each other in that way.
And INTJs have plenty of Ni and Te to see past the ENFPs scattered side and see the intent behind their actions and appreciate their ideas and knowledge
@@CarolineKershaw so awesome. I typically have only dealt with INTJs on a peripheral level or short period of time, in my older years, so I haven't truly gotten a chance to experience this but I can imagine how great it would feel (I do experience a "feelings/ harmonious" version of this with my close INFJs, which I also appreciate).
ENFJ here. I don't know if I'd go as far as to say people are "stupid," maybe...clueless? In need of direction? I try very hard to include everyone in what needs to be done, listen to feedback, etc., but I honestly sometimes feel like things would be easier if people would just do what I tell them. There, I admitted it.
True for ENFP. Tho I don't know is it because I don't want to tell something like this to somebody or because I fear that nobody will really care or believe.
infp here, you said it. although maybe my personal coloring of that idea is a little different. i fear that heirarchies where some people are oppressed or exploited, like some form of slavery, whether it's outright or with wage hierarchies where the most strenuous physical labor also happens to be the lowest paid, is actually a necessity. that the only way we can get beautiful artistic excellence is if only some people are allowed to rest upon the labours and suffering of others
I’m an ENTP and it’s just now that what I’m feeling was accurately defined. It’s soooo true that I don’t even know what I truly want to do anymore. Honestly I’m nearing 30 and I still haven’t discovered my true life purpose since I see both the negative and positive of things I don’t wanna be closed off to one value and later discover that they have negatives that can change my perspective in a snap. It’s tiring and soooo complicated to be an ENTP.
INTP here. I don't think that I would never admit to that. I've been wrestling with that thought for a long time but now, I could say that I'm very much at peace with that idea. I can't speak for all INTPs out there but for me, it's more of an issue with this weird obsession of not wanting to be seen as arrogant. I've pretty much accepted the fact that my ways can often be unconventional but I also dislike the spotlight. It's not exactly modesty, I just do everything in my power not to stand out, including not taking any recognition from anything regardless of my influence to it and purposefully choosing roles that doesn't require presenting myself in a public setting. I know that I could be "so much more", but should I? If the situation calls for it, sure. If not then, you know. It's not the idea that bothers me, it's the people that keeps nagging me with it every single time.
Haha, I've noticed this in myself, too. My life is, now I realize it, a series of neverending shoves into the spotlight so that I've had to distract myself to prevent catastrophic nervous breakdown over drawing any sort of attention to myself. I don't even like putting my name on gifts I give to others, I've recently found out. Hmm, what is responsible for this, I wonder?
OMG yes!! Because of how intense my feelings are I sometimes wonder if I'm an ISFP because of how fierce they are described to be. Being an ESFP can truly be overwhelming sometimes.
(ISTP) If anyone can find a balance between having company in life and not losing your sense of self in others. PLEASE drop some wisdom on here. Short story: I felt SO awkward hanging at an open mic event that I found a way to be useful. Taking photos and giving them away is a GREAT way of interacting without having to share feelings. I ended up becoming the sound engineer and run audio now. I get to give back and be appreciated without the need to be friends with everyone. I'm making friends with the people that feel the same. It's like I held a torch in the dark for all the fellow non emotional people at the venue!
Spot on! I am an ESFP married to an INTJ and a 25 year old ISFP daughter-- she is super chill but can be scary FIERCE if she thinks someone is being treated badly.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied What does "wokeness" have to do with unfairness? Are you suggesting that once I'm passed my prime, I suddenly will not care about fairness? Because I've cared about it since before my prime.
Very interesting insight into ESFP. I was comparing an instance with an ESFP I know to an INFP friend. People often think the ESFP is angry (he's not, he's actually in a flow state and having fun) while they think the INFP is sad (actually, she's either angry, or just chilling out). The ESFP is very intense in the way he shows any and all emotion, while the INFP is very controlled (at least on the face of things). I agree ESFP would rather have more control in general, especially the ones whose emotions tend to get them in trouble.
As an ENTP I relate to the feeling of being hollow. It seems like so many people have an absolute faith in something whether it's religious, political, or just a faith in humanity or the power of love in general. I just can't muster that kind of confidence in my views because my Ti picks apart everything others are saying while that makes me more B.S proof than a lot of those around me but it's often at the cost of that hollow feeling you're talking about despite being surrounded by friends and other people I love.
The INFJ is spot on but I also feel like INTJ describes me really well, in this I'm more INTJ than my mother who hates my complaining and always pointing out what's wrong :) But I must say that I perceive all the INTJs I know as idealists with a strong sense for what's right and what's wrong, I don't know where the "villain" stereotype comes from. And as an INFJ it's always great to have another Ni dom by your side, although there are differences between INFJs and INTJs, I always feel understood by them on the Ni level. Also ENTPs get my Ni mindset because of their Ne openness. And did I mention how much I love ISFJs? :)
“Enfp’s underneath their positive, upbeat, and energetic nature, they have a strong cynical streak and sometimes spills over in their darker moments” Literally me apologizing to my friend group if my energy seemed way low or if I snark/snap at them easily, because I didn’t know how to process the hostile emotions coming from my relatives due to sudden tragedy I can handle sadness, I can handle grief, be it my own or others’, I’ll tend to bounce back pretty quick around others outside of that. Anger, resentment, hostility, perceiving it from others while experiencing my own, I cannot handle or process efficiently, effectively, and certainly not around the presence of others, as it leaks through my interactions as stated, it’s when I tend to isolate a bit more while I process but I also can’t exactly _cut people out_ either that have done nothing wrong towards me Edit: And if it wasn’t implied well, I am an Enfp~
Fellow ENFP, this is super relatable But I actually ended up cutting ppl off of my life in my isolation time I was going through A LOT and needed some time off, so I started off by not answering texts for days, then months, and noticed how everyone around me hated that (me not being active), I understand why they were upset, but I myself was upset that I had to explain myself every time that I needed time off and they didn't understand that, so in the end, I erased all of my SNS (social media). I felt quite bad later on for cutting them off, but my ENTP brother told me "if they were truly ur friends, if they truly cared, they would've been more understanding, and u don't need anyone's permission to take time off nor feel bad for it, so when you're comfortable enough to talk to them do so, or just find new friends, problem solved" -ENTPs and their words damnit, totally bought it lmao
@@sawaruuu It rlly sucks when others put pressure on the idea that you “have to” keep in touch with everyone constantly even after explaining what _our alone time_ means to us, srry ya had to go through that I’m grateful my current friend group respects when anyone claims they need space and respects that; one of them in particular even suggested it if I needed it when I apologize When it gets too much to process around others I do go mute, isolate and self reflect, but ig with the way my brain’s wired it’s not lasted for more than a day an a half tbh, but even in that short time they respect my space I hope you can find a friend group that’s willin to do the same in turn, you’d be surprised where you can find community
@@marcellava thank you so much for your kind words :) And yes, some ppl act as if others don't have their own private lives or problems to deal with, Many act as if you only need "time alone" if you're busy with a job or sth, not cuz u need to self-reflect or figure yourself out and what u want in life I'm not as social as I used to be so I'm not really meeting new ppl and starting friendships but still, thank you And I'm so glad you have such kind, understanding friends, I wish you and ur friends nothing but the best
The saddest thing about being an intj is knowing some people will always remain incompetent despite your efforts to improve them. And especially when they remain incompetent and blame you for it. But i like the way you put it as our secretly being idealists that keep trying to improve the system. I'll carry on with hope that someone someday will realise the full extent of my optimisation behind the scenes.
i mean you're RIGHTTT im an ENFJ and i can relate to that one espacially in this situation where my bestie is having worries about himself and how he is angry with himself ive always told him u need to do things that makes u happy so its frustrating for me when after hours of talk that ends up by him promising me he''ll work toward becoming a better person and properly loving himself then he ends up doing the exact opposite of what i advised him to do :') ...no one can get better by sitting and waiting for things to somehow change for the better...life doesnt work that way darn m ranting anyways i just wanted to get that off my chest so yeh amazing vidd
@@AA123TD Lol. ISFJ *and* Architectural Designer here; seriously, why do so many homes have such unnecessarily dangerous railings?!? Nine times out of ten, there could have just been an actual wall there!
I am a typical INTJ - clear, precise and direct (not rude) and critical, if it is intimidating or funny depends on the personality of the opposite - but I always knew and admitted, that I am an idealist.
I have covid, too. It sucks. Especially when you feel really good and then out of nowhere comes of wave of crap. My favourite part so far is being on the mend, but one day waking up to hives caused by covid.
00:10 ESTP
00:30 ISTP
00:48 INFJ
01:12 ENFJ
01:40 ENTP
02:09 INTP
02:36 ISFJ
03:07 ESFJ
03:32 ENTJ
03:59 ENFP
04:32 INFP
05:13 ISTJ
05:42 ESTJ
06:07 INTJ
06:38 ISFP
06:57 ESFP
Thx 👍
The other guy got all the attention 🗿
You're seriously carrying the whole MBTI typology on this platform. Respect!!
My mother is an ENFJ and she confides in me that she does indeed think that people are "stupid" or "ridiculous." However, no one realizes what she thinks because she's too kind. I laughed out loud at that.
I am the timestamps guy today
ESTP - 0:11
ISTP - 0:30
INFJ - 0:48
ENFJ - 1:12
ENTP - 1:39
INTP - 2:09
ISFJ - 2:35
ESFJ - 3:06
ENTJ (represent) - 3:31
ENFP - 3:59
INFP - 4:32
ISTJ - 5:13
ESTJ - 5:41
INTJ - 6:05
ISFP - 6:38
ESFP - 6:57
Thank you so much! 🙏🏻
Thank youuu
Not all heroes wear capes, your work is appreciated here today
thank you! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
We all appreciate you so much. Many thanks!
Hope that you get better soon, Nathan. You're very apt, especially with the INFJ section. I have an active inner imagination, so much so, that I often forget to ACTUALLY live it out!
just dont fall into an Se grip, because yall are insane when your under stress.
I've seen Trina Q in several places so many times, it's ridiculous.
@@hq1082 how so?
Im also an infj and I don't forget and am aware
As an INTJ I can agree with you about INTJ's being optimistic. As much as I rail against the overall incompetence of people, and have to remind myself everyone else is an idiot to keep my blood pressure in check. At heart I want people to be competent, I always give people the benefit of the doubt, even after all these years.
well, after the first ten minutes of talking to a person you can know more or less how much to expect from them
As Entp I feel with you, bro. 🤧
I've had people fulfill my expectations, so staying optimistic honestly pays off sometimes
@@Hezkun lucky you.. I hope I could find that kind of people someday.. If not then I just have to find a way to clone myself 😂
Despite my optimism being wrong most of the time, I’m still optimistic. I’m a pessimistic optimist lmao
INFP here in his 20s.
It's really timely because I really feel like the world is unfair and I can't do anything about it. It bothers me because of the possibility of what if the world we believe in doesn't really exist? A world where people are in harmony amd everyone gets what they want and be their authentic selves. But some people just have bad intentions. And that's what makes it unfair and kind of... meaningless to be good.
We don't want goodness to seem meaningless. It's what we put our faith in. A better world. Some kind of paradise.
I think the world might be unfair, but as a person u don't have to be. Most people have reasons for being unfair. But it's kinda meaningless to just think about or talk about it if u don't take actions to at least even out some of the unfairness. But there it gets tricky and corrupted and without power u can't gain power.
I can relate to the hope and belief. I feel rather hopeless after 33 years on this planet beside human beings because I see the rotten parts but I don't have the power and never seeked it.
Just start in your own world. Spread awareness on social media and try not to let the injustices get to you that much that it gets you down
I've been almost on nervous breakdown at times knowing such cruelty even exists
It is true. I'm an ISTP and I long for the feeling of being alone most of the time because I get really tired when exposed to social interactions for too long. But even so, I cannot lie about how sad and depressive it can be to really feel like you don't have anyone by your side. This sometimes can lead to the paranoia of thinking that no one likes you, that everyone hates you just because you are... you. I've hit that bottom so many times... it's hard, but we will never say it out loud. Maybe because of the shame, maybe because of distrust, I don't know.
Ah it's just a paranoia?? That's not true? I'll write it down...
I have an ISTP friend that I can tell goes through this and I feel for him sometimes. However, due to his inferior Fe, he has made some bad choices, involving me in some mess, so now I'm wondering if this is how he gets in his difficult situations because he doesn't know how to properly deal with loved ones/ friends
@@kellikakes81 no ISTP knows how to deal with any social link they have, whether is family, love interest or friends. To have these figured out you must be very healthy, which most of us are not. When we hit our low, we are prior to make the worst choices, isolate ourselves and have our mind blown up with thoughts and doubts about what everyone think about us and why we care so much.
So next time you see your ISTP friend on that low state again, just let them know what you really think and feel about them. Just be truthful, because at that state everything sounds like lies.
@@sevoid6524 thank you so much for the advice. I will take heed to it
and you still here commenting!?
Agree with infp wholeheartedly. The way I personally got over that is the realisation that some (maybe even the majority) of people are just not phased as being cogs in the machine, and if that's the case - please keep on cogging away you beautiful people.
It's the cogs and gears which have been forced into spots they cannot fit, but cannot see that the reason they are not moving in tandem and causing chaos to all the other cogs around them are because they were forced into a space they shouldn't be, and now they only see themselves as not the right cog, when in fact they could have been a damn good spanner (I know nothing about mechanics and it irks me that I cannot make a better metaphor).
If someone is not happy with their place in the machine, then it's their responsibility to find their place and it's the machines responsibility to allow that to happen
Hard agree
hard for INFP's to daydream and "find themselves" while cogging away, take your time though, we're not rushing you...
exactly.
I don't understand what that means😅
Spent the whole day at my cog job creating music and vibing out. I should've taken a personal day, but inspiration is often if not always spontaneous smh
As an INTP, the key is to realise everything cannot be done, and projects need to be prioritised by the level of fulfilment it brings. It’s amazing how much we can get done if we can just pick one thing to do
I am an ENTP and this was so point on. When people or questionares ask me to define myself I literally stumble. It's like seeing a box in the room but not being able to unlock it. I used to get so frustrated with this but now that I've learned this much about typology, I have come to terms with this side about me .
Mbti should have more than 16
There is an Arabic poem i think she describes an ENTP .
Group of human
She asked, who are you?
And I replied to her; I'm a
group of human.
From anything against or
the opposite, you will find
something inside me.
1
Inside me, you will find day
and night happiness and
sadness.
I laugh while my tears
wander in the middle of my
eyes.
ENTPs have a tendency to identify themselves with their “skills” so to speak. Like if they are a good musician, they will identify themselves as musicians. So when they start to doubt their “skills” the identity tends to kind of fall apart. ENTPs identify themselves with the external world rather than the internal (Fe function), while ENFPs(for example) bc of their Fi just kind of “know” who they are. ENFPs in my experience are extremely robust in their identity. But ENTPs look to the external world to seek identity and might become abnoxius attention whores when insecure. Constantly looking for approval and asking people for input and looking at people to identify them.
INTP here and this was spot on (Although I do relate to the ENTP quite a bit too. Maybe it's the Ne) . I found that writing helps with communicating my thoughts instead of verbalising it. I'm trying to get better at both, though. I have to listen to it in my head before saying it out loud. It stresses me out that I am slow to react to things only because of how slow I am at articulating myself.
Hope you feel better soon. Covid is a real pain in the ass.
My fiance is intp, I am infp. I have problems verbalizing my thoughts. In the beginning of our relationship we wrote a lot about thoughts, experiences, opinions and on and on. It helped us to be confident and trusting each other and today we usually speak out what is in us even if it takes time. But still, if there's something truly bugging me I write him about it, it's better because I can overthink sentences or explain deeper or be more structured. In a conversation I feel pressured and stressed and most people don't give me the time to end my thoughts verbally. And yeah, my intp has a deep mind but he actually rarely open up his gates what is sad to me because I enjoy listening him. It's kinda weird when we both r filled with thoughts and yet don't know what to talk about and just stay silent for minutes.
İ also felt the same way and at the articulating part i have a story in my head but i am just too lazy to write it lol
İDK if that made any sense at all
The ENTP part was on point. I always appreciate your choice of words and expression. Get better soon.
As an INTJ,
I have never thought that about myself until you articulated it. I will say I agree with the analysis you mentioned. I am also shocked that it is true.
Ambitious realist EXACTLY describes by INTJ husband. As an INFP, I do find him very idealistic in a lot of ways which is why we are such a great match, but he considers himself a realist lol.... he spends his life optimizing everything around him to make it function better. Systems, relationships, his workplace, etc. And what frustrates him is that he can see how great something could be if people would stop messing it up lol. So to him it isn't being idealistic because he knows that realistically his goals are 100% achievable if everyone would just listen to him lol. I love him so much and I admire how everything he touches he makes better. That is such an admirable quality to have, and I love how he has optimized our marriage over the last 12 years. We almost never have arguments anymore lol. INFPs get yourself an INTJ and thank me later!
Ooh this is why I (or ENFPs) like INTJs. Because I can tell their cynicism is just a cover for DREAMS hahaha. And they can tell I'm a little worn out sometimes on being so enthusiastic and I feel like I can just admit that to them without them finding it alarming or incongruous with still wanting to have many ideas.
ISTP here, you are spot on. I have finally accepted that I need people, and really like them. It's just this damned low fe that stops me interacting more. I literally don't know what to say to people and it drives me up the wall.
Get well soon. ✌️
(ISTP here) I've learned that doing things for people gives me the opportunity to interact with them on a social emotional level. It is draining nonetheless but WAY BETTER than staying home alone sad and depressed. Plus, the more I do it, the easier it gets.
@@PhotoRubio Hey, great idea :) I love it. 😄
You’re on point with the ENFJ. People don’t listen to me only to ‘magically’ come to the same conclusions days to years later. And I hate how stupid people can be, especially myself xD
Wow the self abuse at the end , typical enfj behavior , and exactly why I can't admit thinking poeple are stupid cause last time I checked I was also " people "
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I just got called out so hard-
I've basically become a hikikomori and I just feel so lonely and useless all the time but I can't get myself to actually do anything about it
I'm just in survival mode due to my mental and physical health so I often feel like I'm going to die without ever doing anything with all the knowledge and big ideas I've accumulated because I can't ever create or structure anything I think of properly before I become tired of it entirely, only to come back to it later but it's just an endless cycle of trying to find a purpose but then giving up
As an INTJ, I can say I agree with your statement here. I think most of us would be more idealistic if we were able to believe in people. I think our lack in the belief of others to be idealistic about extremely elementary issues leads to our pessimism. Our frustrations comes from the lack of our ideals, so we choose to just be “realistic” about it and simplify it by saying humans are not capable of creating the most ideal situation for any occurrence. Feelings, political affiliations, laziness, etc. will never go away. Therefore, ideal group outcomes are impossible.
As an INFJ...I even agree with that. And I call it realistic to lose faith in humans acheiving idealism or perfection. That includes myself. Not sure most INTJs would include themselves in that. As it turns out I have a sibling who is an INTJ.
INFJ here, I totally agree with the INTJ's outlook in life... 😪
You don't live up to your best possible selves. You live up to your idea of what your best possible self is, but that doesn't mean you are actually being your best self. Your concept of what the ideal world and people that live in said world is small and clouded by your own perception. Unless you and every human on this planet can harness the best parts of all personalities, whilst shedding the worst, then we will never be ideal. We are all failures to some degree and we are never being are best possible selves. Yes, some strive harder to work on themselves, but again what that person thinks is best, doesn't mean it actually is the best version of themselves. If INTJ's were actually trying to be the best possible person they could possible be, well, then you guys would be better at relationships.
Completely agree on the Idealism. I've said before the reason why I seem so jaded with the world is because I can see what the world COULD be, and seeing it not be that way is frustrating.
@@Chrupignat i agree with you. I think immature INTJs are still idealist until they have a reason not to be anymore. As they mature, that idealism turns to pessimism. We identify with this pessimistic view of the world as realism.
Wishing you well, Nathan. You are one of the best in the MBTI community, thank you for your efforts and for this video. looking forward for your next one. Now take your time getting well.
This INFP is too optimistic to think we're doomed. :) I see the world as slowly progressing and sometimes simply wish it would happen faster.
It's basically what you said about INTJs, on a societal scale - I see a lot of problems with society, but without pessimism; I see a lot of potential for improvement and believe things can get better.
as an ENFP, I honestly am losing hope that things are getting better. people automatically think progress is always going to happen, and as years go on, we get better. but that's not true. I think as years go on, we're regressing sometimes. look at Roe v Wade overturn in the US. my country has also become a lot more extremist in terms of religion over the last 20 years.
@@larsswig912 I feel ya. Progress is not a constant, linear thing. There are ups and downs, and sometimes things can regress for a while. But still, I think over the long term, things do improve, and the regressions will course-correct eventually.
@@Multitudes_ Yes, the arc of history bends not towards justice, but towards comfort. It is only when the comfortable become uncomfortable enough that they fight for something deemed better (or acquiesce to fights for more power by other outside groups). This means that history is not so much one arc, but many overlapping ones that show non-consistent movement towards perceived progress.
Middle aged INTP here.
"INTPS: That their actions only capture a tiny amount of their brain's potential."
Less than you might think, actually. I'm quite content NOT being the one who changes society to fit my whims or taking over the world. I've seen what people trying to control everything and everyone around them turns into and I want no part of it. I'm not arrogant enough to imagine I have all the answers, and the ones I'm confident I do have are answers people have to figure out and find the will to act upon for themselves. 😐
"Not only that, I think they also feel like they struggle greatly to verbalize their thoughts."
Well, yeah. Have we not been making that clear already? 🤨
Early 30s INTP here, wholeheartedly agree with your first paragraph, but the second probably depends on the particular INTP. As a lawyer I can easily put my thoughts and feelings into words, in writing or verbally, though I will usually only do so when someone directly asks for it or when I sense there will be a non-trivial bad consequence for not doing so, or if I'm talking to one of the few people I really trust.
@@Scruffed There's a world of difference between making a legal argument and having a conversation about one's feelings, but yeah, I get what you mean.
@@Scruffed Any tips for INTPs who are aspiring lawyers?
@@mikaell7070 Apart from studying hard, try your best to be on the good graces of your fellow students even if they're annoying or dumb (you never know when you'll need a favor from them), and if you're interested in postgraduate studies, try to identify and develop a friendly relationship with the professors that teach the subject you'd aim to do further studies on (show them you're interested), and if possible also the Dean (or equivalent) of your faculty, their references and guidance can take you far.
@@jimclayson as an 18 year old intp I can explain my thoughts and feelings very clearly. All feelings I believe are logical and follow thought and survival, rather than truth. But INTPs don't just know truth, it's logic were good at. If you can see feelings and logical rather than valid, it would help. They're valid in the sense of the string that creates that feeling, but not particularly logical with other systems that should be more validated.
It's all just systems. the body, brain, feelings, sensations, all of it is.
But then again I have above average verbal IQ so maybe it's just that. I still picture it would help because it's what allowed me to identify feeling and the root thoughts behind them. I couldn't before these mindsets were developed.
Bruh I didn't come here to get personally attacked. As an ESFP: I have been exposed. That hit WAY to close to home.
Yes I would like my feelings to just sometimes chill a bit out. Thank you very much.
ENTP here. I cannot use THC at all because it makes me introspective and I am so inexperienced with that reflection that it's overwhelming and makes me panicky. I literally never feel anxious sober, but then again I don't feel much at all and so to be uncontrollably bombarded with internal feelings all at once is horrible. I can't bear it. So yeah, maybe hollow is a bit much but it's definitely not what others are walking around experiencing.
One of my ENTP acquaintances is very anxious and depressed on the daily even though she doesn't dive into drugs like that. She likes food a lot though. She manages through therapy, self-help and medication.
@@Jay-el9iz yeah, anxiety disorders are not personality type issues they're real for sure. I just don't have one. Drugs make me have it bad.
As an infp thc does the opposite. It gives me trips of depersonalization and honestly it's kind of refreshing to analyze things without a care. But the more adopt that mindset into sobriety the less motivated and connected I find myself to life so...trying to find the balance that works for me.
I’m the same way. I used to enjoy getting high. I’d smoke all the time and then I reached a point where any time I was with other people I’d have full on panic attacks and then it started happening when I was alone. I think when I first started getting high it was exciting and made me go into a funny headspace where I’d think of ridiculous ideas, but then I started getting depressed and I started introspecting and getting deep into why I was feeling so depressed and anxious when I was high and it stopped being enjoyable.
Wow... You know the stuff. As Entp I never understood that I feel hollow. And I thought I'm actually lazy.
Now, this makes sense 2 me.
Otherwise, what you told about Entj is even my attitude as well...
Going 4 ideas untill burnout.
INFP fearful that we are doomed but the upside is that everyday I wake and we are not in doom, immense joy, appreciation, and satisfaction comes from the ordinary life. And then the magic of doom not yet being apparent makes impossible things seem very possible. Hence high momentum for drifting into fantastical day dreams. Paradoxically being non present in the joy of presence.
I feel like INFPs often express that unfairness is inevitable and prevalent in society. It’s not something they’re afraid to point out, nor is the unfairness itself something frightening.
Instead, I’d say that INFPs do not like to admit that they are fully capable of outshining other people but don’t do so out of politeness. We have the intelligence, the wit, the sass, but we will hold our comebacks to not hurt you. Even at the height of our anger we still try to hold our tongues and reword it to leave out attempts to offend. Many people underestimate INFPs and we leave it that way because actions speak for themselves and you can’t handle our raw self. I will let you think you won the debate because I’d rather let you be right and happy than wrong and hurt.
I agree about holding back and letting ourselves be underestimated in some ways. In some cases it's about sparing people's feelings, and in some cases it just doesn't feel worth the effort. We don't usually have a great need to prove ourselves to other people, so that alone is not enough of a motivation.
When it comes to arguments or debates, I can't tell you how often I hold back from engaging, or just disengage at some point, because the issue is too complex to really do it justice without expending an amount of time and effort that is really disproportionate for the context and the impact it is likely to have there. And if I'm dealing with a very ignorant or toxic person, that adds a whole other layer of complexity in terms of untangling the mess in their mind enough for whatever ideas I'm presenting to actually get absorbed and digested, or for them to even be able to engage in the exchange in good faith - again, rarely worth the effort and rarely doable in a single exchange.
@@Multitudes_ wonderful elaboration! I 100% agree and was too lazy to put my complete thoughts into words but you did it hahaha
The thing about us INFPs holding back is from what i see, to be the KEY reason, why we can be so terrifying despite appearing so harmless most of the time, when we get so fed up that we just pull all stops. i've experienced moments where i really went out of my way to hurt people, really went prioritizing being right over anything else, & damn, i can almost see that wound spreading open on the other guy right in front of my eyes. what was even more terrifying about such experiences, was finding myself actually ENJOYING it.
@@FalconWindblader Te grip example
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied exactly
Get well soon!! Your voice still sounds amazing, raspy or coughy-coughy it's always music to the INTJs soul to hear what you have to say.
INTJs...seeing endless possibilities for others to learn and grow, imagining the benefits for them and society, annoyed at ourselves for wasting time thinking about a plan not valued or seen by others and getting our hopes up, embarrassed should others discover how much we care (lashing out at the stupidity of others to avoid that embarrassment should fix that, everybody thinks we're heartless cynics now but hey, it was worth it, I think...)
it is worth it, those people are too incompetent to do anything, it's better to kill their expectations than let them suck our motivation even drier
@@GeekNewz INTJs relish reliability so easier to assume probable incompetence than entertain possible competence
My bestie is an INTJ and very much an idealist. I don't get where this cold mastermind stereotype comes from. Ni-Fi loop must be crazy to handle, at least more than Ni-Ti (INFJ). Feelings are a nightmare.
@@mqh2411 Ni-Fi loop is like being inside a pressure chamber of emotion, it's really wild
@@EresirThe1st Let's say I'm pretty happy with my Ni-Ti loop 😆
Agreed about INTJ. A state of INTJ is somehow a permanent disappointment with the world that doesn't work as INTJ supposes it to work and thus this world sucks or is always messy.
We INTJ are the best critics in the world.
(On the rights of selftype-irony^^)
Every day it feels like you meet someone, and they are like "I'd like to build a beautiful thing, but I keep intentionally smashing my hand with a hammer!" "So stop intentionally smashing your hand with the hammer." "HOW DARE YOU TELL ME TO STOP SMASHING MY HAND WITH A HAMMER!"
As an INTJ, this is how I define myself lol. This IS how I will ALWAYS admit. Good point.
As an entj this video is quite accurate in my case, the reason it's so hard to slow down is because when entjs stop moving it can provide too much time to get counterproductively satisfied, when an entj stops trying to achieve something greater they lose their identity and purpose in life
I believe a mature entj would stop for a brief moment to revel in success, but only briefly, maturity would dictate the balance
One of my favorite fictional characters is (I think?) an ENTP. There is one part of the book where the character is going through a tough time and says something like, "When I looked in the mirror, I could tell from the expression on my face that I was upset."
Please tell me who this is, or the book
😂 As an INFP, very aware of my emotion, that gave me a good chuckle.💕
@@octoberbabybee Peter Grant. The Rivers of London series by Ben Aaronovitch
@@victoriabugado6272 thanks! I almost always enjoy books with entps lol
I felt this. 😅
Being in a flux/semi-stressful life period at the moment, I've been keeping track of my state/how I feel by using an expanded Hawkins Scale that is tied to #'s.
This is more helpful to me (and quicker) than journaling and using mood tracker apps that only have stupid emoticons.
Initially, I made a grid sheet where I input an early AM, late AM, early PM, mid-PM + late PM #, then average out the 5 #'s for my end of day feelings score. I also have a separate little box for an end of day productivity # (1-10, low to high). These #'s are subsequently averages out by week and month.
I aim to stay in the mid-to-high 200's. This is what provides the indication that I am doing more okay than not.
I have recently transitioned to digitally logging on the Reflections app as it allows you to customize categories/filters to view my # records in one shot. Virtuology has a more extensive numbers/feelings breakout.
As INTJ. Yes, it's true, I want things not only to improve but to reach its potential, and that includes myself and everyone else. It's really hard to admit because it doesn't matter how much we try there's always one of many reasons that potential can't be achieved, so I resort to nihilism and crippling disappointment.
The infp one is honestly really accurate to myself. It's something I'm always thinking about but I've never really vocalised
I love the colour scheme and art nouveau-esque corner embellishments in this video :)
I'm afraid to live in such a dangerous world where I do not have an answer to worst case scenarios. But then I decided to relax and accept death if that has to happen tomorrow. Doing much better now! Thanks Nathan for the video and get well soon!
lol infj to the bone
“INFPs. [sometimes admit] That they worry we might be doomed. Because unfairness might be a fundamental feature of society, and even life, overall. INFPs, archetypically, defend individuality against homogenized, standardized, and systematic structures. But, INFPs do also realize the power of those things. That there is a need for society to be structured in a certain way. They’re not blind to that. This presents a problem, namely, that their preferred way things should be might not be functional, or doable. If some people don’t function as cogs in the machine, then the machine won’t work. And maybe it needs to work, at least in some areas. The thought that unfairness is inevitable deeply bothers INFPs.”
Get better soon, Nathan! Thanks for all your effort and work to feed the MBTI community!
With regards to ISFPs, though, the opposite is true for me. I used to want to fit in more when I was younger. I didn't want to admit that I had fomo, even if I acted otherwise. However, now that I'm older and had to forego events that would allow me to gain interpersonal connections, I had to learn the hard way to find less value in societal acceptance. And so I have. I've learned to care less about fitting in and to try to live my own life independent of what most people think of me.
Come to think of it, I guess you're right...in describing some part of my life. 😄
The ENTP problem is something I explain since I am 12 and hadn't knwon anything about MBTI. Im now 17. It's kinda prooving my point, so thanks my man
I hope you get plenty of rest and feel better soon Nathan... 🙏🏻
As an intp, I don't have problems verbalizing. My only Issue is actually getting it across, not everyone's interested and I don't want to share with people who don't value it. It don't feel good to me and it spoils the flow as it's not compatible with them.
I have adhd and potentially autism, as an intp I've struggled IMMENSELY with laziness but also intense productivity. Over the years I've developed systems of how I think things work, and they do work. I can be as productive as I choose. Whether I do it is different, but I can snap to it if I want to now.
Went from 17% conscientiousness to 65%. (Big 5 trait). A lot of other traits have improved to. Lowered neuroticism and increased extraversion (as a result of focusing specifically on those dimensions, not particularly just improving in general that caused it).
Theory first. Execution second. Assess, revise, repeat.
My husband is an INTP and I must say he verbalizes in a way that gives his theory's a real impact. As an ESFP, I am very receptive when it comes to anything that's not criticism. I could listen to him talk about different topics all day and it will be like an emotional rollercoaster sometimes because of all the different perspectives he gives me. I cherish it very much. There is no other like the INTP. ( Don't know how we made it this long because we are so opposite but here we are ) haha
The ENFP part is 1000000% true!!
I actual tell people this tho, and some take it the wrong way because I usually only say the positive/ idealistic view of things out loud. (Unless you're close to me; you will get cynicism and optimism).
Edit: hearing the INTJ version makes me understand why people put ENFP and INTJs together because I see we are the inverse of one another internally and externally and probably could immensely help each other in that way.
ENFPs have plenty of Ne and Fi to see past the INTJ tough side to see through to their soft side and generally good intentions ❤️
And INTJs have plenty of Ni and Te to see past the ENFPs scattered side and see the intent behind their actions and appreciate their ideas and knowledge
@@CarolineKershaw so awesome. I typically have only dealt with INTJs on a peripheral level or short period of time, in my older years, so I haven't truly gotten a chance to experience this but I can imagine how great it would feel (I do experience a "feelings/ harmonious" version of this with my close INFJs, which I also appreciate).
ENFJ here. I don't know if I'd go as far as to say people are "stupid," maybe...clueless? In need of direction? I try very hard to include everyone in what needs to be done, listen to feedback, etc., but I honestly sometimes feel like things would be easier if people would just do what I tell them. There, I admitted it.
That INTP part is way to relatable like how it's so relatable?
ESFJ here, very accurate. It’s really the downside of us having a high Fe… I really need to hear this. Thanksss
True for ENFP.
Tho I don't know is it because I don't want to tell something like this to somebody or because I fear that nobody will really care or believe.
As an INFJ, that's how I am living right now i.e. surviving right now and I don't care what people would say if I accept it.
Get well soon 🙏🏻😇
infp here, you said it. although maybe my personal coloring of that idea is a little different. i fear that heirarchies where some people are oppressed or exploited, like some form of slavery, whether it's outright or with wage hierarchies where the most strenuous physical labor also happens to be the lowest paid, is actually a necessity. that the only way we can get beautiful artistic excellence is if only some people are allowed to rest upon the labours and suffering of others
I’m an ENTP and it’s just now that what I’m feeling was accurately defined. It’s soooo true that I don’t even know what I truly want to do anymore. Honestly I’m nearing 30 and I still haven’t discovered my true life purpose since I see both the negative and positive of things I don’t wanna be closed off to one value and later discover that they have negatives that can change my perspective in a snap. It’s tiring and soooo complicated to be an ENTP.
I literally told someone last night that sometimes it's exhausting being me. :)
I'd also like to say it gets better, but I am about to hit 49 and am still in the same boat. I'm so high P, it's almost a disability. 😂
"If it works, don't touch it" -ISTJs
Another well spoken video. Hope you feel better man.
INTP here. I don't think that I would never admit to that. I've been wrestling with that thought for a long time but now, I could say that I'm very much at peace with that idea. I can't speak for all INTPs out there but for me, it's more of an issue with this weird obsession of not wanting to be seen as arrogant. I've pretty much accepted the fact that my ways can often be unconventional but I also dislike the spotlight. It's not exactly modesty, I just do everything in my power not to stand out, including not taking any recognition from anything regardless of my influence to it and purposefully choosing roles that doesn't require presenting myself in a public setting.
I know that I could be "so much more", but should I? If the situation calls for it, sure. If not then, you know. It's not the idea that bothers me, it's the people that keeps nagging me with it every single time.
Haha, I've noticed this in myself, too. My life is, now I realize it, a series of neverending shoves into the spotlight so that I've had to distract myself to prevent catastrophic nervous breakdown over drawing any sort of attention to myself. I don't even like putting my name on gifts I give to others, I've recently found out. Hmm, what is responsible for this, I wonder?
OMG yes!! Because of how intense my feelings are I sometimes wonder if I'm an ISFP because of how fierce they are described to be. Being an ESFP can truly be overwhelming sometimes.
As an intp, thank you I finally feel so understood 🤩
Lmao I've got COVID right now too and have been binging your videos and random other videos (INTP here). Get well soon dude, hoping we both recover
nailed it, on the ENFP!
So so right about infps. I admit that I think you are brilliant.
So that's why I always do so many suggestions on Discord servers and end up getting banned most of the time as an INTJ...
(ISTP) If anyone can find a balance between having company in life and not losing your sense of self in others. PLEASE drop some wisdom on here.
Short story: I felt SO awkward hanging at an open mic event that I found a way to be useful. Taking photos and giving them away is a GREAT way of interacting without having to share feelings. I ended up becoming the sound engineer and run audio now. I get to give back and be appreciated without the need to be friends with everyone.
I'm making friends with the people that feel the same. It's like I held a torch in the dark for all the fellow non emotional people at the venue!
Spot on! I am an ESFP married to an INTJ and a 25 year old ISFP daughter-- she is super chill but can be scary FIERCE if she thinks someone is being treated badly.
Wow.... 100% nailed the ESFP. Which is surprising considering it is something I rarely admit to others and really does bother me about myself.
I didn’t realise everyone didn’t know intjs are idealists. Bringing visions into the tangible world is like our thing.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied just ask us lol we don't bite
Godddd, I HATE unfairness, it's so infuriating! Unfairness completely ruins everything!
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied What does "wokeness" have to do with unfairness? Are you suggesting that once I'm passed my prime, I suddenly will not care about fairness? Because I've cared about it since before my prime.
Entp here, scarily accurate as always
Get well soon 👍
Very interesting insight into ESFP. I was comparing an instance with an ESFP I know to an INFP friend. People often think the ESFP is angry (he's not, he's actually in a flow state and having fun) while they think the INFP is sad (actually, she's either angry, or just chilling out). The ESFP is very intense in the way he shows any and all emotion, while the INFP is very controlled (at least on the face of things). I agree ESFP would rather have more control in general, especially the ones whose emotions tend to get them in trouble.
As an ENTP I relate to the feeling of being hollow. It seems like so many people have an absolute faith in something whether it's religious, political, or just a faith in humanity or the power of love in general.
I just can't muster that kind of confidence in my views because my Ti picks apart everything others are saying while that makes me more B.S proof than a lot of those around me but it's often at the cost of that hollow feeling you're talking about despite being surrounded by friends and other people I love.
It's not Covid, you just heard of Queen Liz's passing and that's ok, I'll miss her too!
Get well soon, Nathan
wow lol @ the ENFP
insanely on point .
As an ENTP, I relate heavily to what you said about both ENTP and INTP.
Love the insight as usual
Get well soon!
Personally I could relate to more than one of these.
The INFJ is spot on but I also feel like INTJ describes me really well, in this I'm more INTJ than my mother who hates my complaining and always pointing out what's wrong :) But I must say that I perceive all the INTJs I know as idealists with a strong sense for what's right and what's wrong, I don't know where the "villain" stereotype comes from. And as an INFJ it's always great to have another Ni dom by your side, although there are differences between INFJs and INTJs, I always feel understood by them on the Ni level. Also ENTPs get my Ni mindset because of their Ne openness. And did I mention how much I love ISFJs? :)
It makes sense to relate to multiple types when it comes to these videos to be honest, especially when those types have a lot in common! ~ Nathan
ESFJ - that's really true lol I couldn't help but agree and nod, but I can't help it 😂
ENTP is spot-on. I'm struggling with that now.
I have an ENFJ friend who will release a huge thankful sigh when I use my INTP willingness to speak the truth they didn't want to verbalize.
I’m sorry you are sick with the ‘rona 🦠. Been there. Done that a few times. You’ll be better in no time. Take care. ❤️🥰😘
Stay hydrated. Hope you feel better soon.
As intp i think about unimplemented knowledge all the time. I think the best knowledge are the ones implemented. Its a struggle for sure
ENTP kinda hit hard. I’ve been thinking a lot about that lately.
You should make a collab video with 'dear Kristen' that would be epic!
Feel free to be my wing-person for that one ~ Nathan
Omg enfj is so real. This is why I get so irritated and tired of people that I thought I wasn’t an enfj 💀
“Enfp’s underneath their positive, upbeat, and energetic nature, they have a strong cynical streak and sometimes spills over in their darker moments”
Literally me apologizing to my friend group if my energy seemed way low or if I snark/snap at them easily, because I didn’t know how to process the hostile emotions coming from my relatives due to sudden tragedy
I can handle sadness, I can handle grief, be it my own or others’, I’ll tend to bounce back pretty quick around others outside of that. Anger, resentment, hostility, perceiving it from others while experiencing my own, I cannot handle or process efficiently, effectively, and certainly not around the presence of others, as it leaks through my interactions as stated, it’s when I tend to isolate a bit more while I process but I also can’t exactly _cut people out_ either that have done nothing wrong towards me
Edit: And if it wasn’t implied well, I am an Enfp~
Fellow ENFP, this is super relatable
But I actually ended up cutting ppl off of my life in my isolation time
I was going through A LOT and needed some time off, so I started off by not answering texts for days, then months, and noticed how everyone around me hated that (me not being active),
I understand why they were upset, but I myself was upset that I had to explain myself every time that I needed time off and they didn't understand that, so in the end, I erased all of my SNS (social media).
I felt quite bad later on for cutting them off, but my ENTP brother told me "if they were truly ur friends, if they truly cared, they would've been more understanding, and u don't need anyone's permission to take time off nor feel bad for it, so when you're comfortable enough to talk to them do so, or just find new friends, problem solved"
-ENTPs and their words damnit, totally bought it lmao
@@sawaruuu It rlly sucks when others put pressure on the idea that you “have to” keep in touch with everyone constantly even after explaining what _our alone time_ means to us, srry ya had to go through that
I’m grateful my current friend group respects when anyone claims they need space and respects that; one of them in particular even suggested it if I needed it when I apologize
When it gets too much to process around others I do go mute, isolate and self reflect, but ig with the way my brain’s wired it’s not lasted for more than a day an a half tbh, but even in that short time they respect my space
I hope you can find a friend group that’s willin to do the same in turn, you’d be surprised where you can find community
@@marcellava thank you so much for your kind words :)
And yes, some ppl act as if others don't have their own private lives or problems to deal with,
Many act as if you only need "time alone" if you're busy with a job or sth, not cuz u need to self-reflect or figure yourself out and what u want in life
I'm not as social as I used to be so I'm not really meeting new ppl and starting friendships but still, thank you
And I'm so glad you have such kind, understanding friends, I wish you and ur friends nothing but the best
The saddest thing about being an intj is knowing some people will always remain incompetent despite your efforts to improve them. And especially when they remain incompetent and blame you for it.
But i like the way you put it as our secretly being idealists that keep trying to improve the system. I'll carry on with hope that someone someday will realise the full extent of my optimisation behind the scenes.
i mean you're RIGHTTT im an ENFJ and i can relate to that one espacially in this situation where my bestie is having worries about himself and how he is angry with himself ive always told him u need to do things that makes u happy so its frustrating for me when after hours of talk that ends up by him promising me he''ll work toward becoming a better person and properly loving himself then he ends up doing the exact opposite of what i advised him to do :') ...no one can get better by sitting and waiting for things to somehow change for the better...life doesnt work that way darn m ranting anyways i just wanted to get that off my chest so yeh
amazing vidd
Get well soon! Spot on too.
I like that you my thoughts into words, things I’ve known but thought was not worth the effort organizing into words.
You don't sound too good Nathan.
Hope you feel better soon.
Always love these assessments.
ESFJ 💛
~Saiyren
INTJ here, you just called me out :P
Get well soon!!
"What have I done with that knowledge" vs analysis paralysis. damn, that smarts.
Get well soon Nathan. Spot on again, as usual with ISFJs 👍🏽
@@AA123TD Lol. ISFJ *and* Architectural Designer here; seriously, why do so many homes have such unnecessarily dangerous railings?!? Nine times out of ten, there could have just been an actual wall there!
Get well soon Nathan
I am a typical INTJ - clear, precise and direct (not rude) and critical, if it is intimidating or funny depends on the personality of the opposite - but I always knew and admitted, that I am an idealist.
Get well soon 🤍🤍💚 take care of yourself
I have covid, too. It sucks. Especially when you feel really good and then out of nowhere comes of wave of crap. My favourite part so far is being on the mend, but one day waking up to hives caused by covid.
I'm an ESFP and it's not that I won't admit it but that it's hard to put that into words