Survivorship Bias 🤔 (explained)

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  • Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2024

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  • @lotsaspaghetticodejr.6488
    @lotsaspaghetticodejr.6488 Месяц назад +152177

    A prime example of why just being great at your job doesn't mean you're excellent at it.

    • @Red_warrior45
      @Red_warrior45 Месяц назад +1642

      ​@Dont.ReadMyBannernobody asked

    • @mrfixit9538
      @mrfixit9538 Месяц назад +726

      ​@Dont.ReadMyBannerWomp womp lil man

    • @paladinoestetica
      @paladinoestetica Месяц назад +245

      Ok but this isn't true. This is just a common example of confirmation bias

    • @stupidupdate
      @stupidupdate Месяц назад +73

      A prime example why you should not believe everything on internet. This story has nothing to do with survivorship bias.

    • @legalizsed
      @legalizsed Месяц назад +49

      ​@Dont.ReadMyBanner WAHHH WAHHH

  • @AnActualPotato1
    @AnActualPotato1 Месяц назад +18826

    This is why it’s so important to have peers look over these things alongside you.
    What you may overlook, another sees with perfect clarity

  • @danuostret1900
    @danuostret1900 Месяц назад +22306

    " What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад +35

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @Mrvishnu1276
      @Mrvishnu1276 Месяц назад +7

      ​@IDareYouToTakeALookreported

    • @NightarcPGM
      @NightarcPGM Месяц назад

      @@BkevinmssWould you like to come over and touching grass with me

    • @BS64.
      @BS64. Месяц назад +13

      BOT

    • @Jaylordleguiz2468
      @Jaylordleguiz2468 Месяц назад +19

      @Dont.ReadMyBanner didn’t ask+there comment is way better +get a life +no one cares + our comment is way better than yours.

  • @Jeff-lc7lp
    @Jeff-lc7lp Месяц назад +213

    If this was Warthunder you'd spin at the slightest bullet through the wing 😂

  • @ryanwood9313
    @ryanwood9313 Месяц назад +44662

    This is called survivor bias its a good example of why critical thinking is necessary in many fields
    Edit: Jesus christ I didn't read the title of the video before posting drop it already

    • @BluecoreG
      @BluecoreG Месяц назад +512

      I too can read the title

    • @carinag4635
      @carinag4635 Месяц назад +138

      @@BluecoreGi too am in this comment section

    • @Denis_20096
      @Denis_20096 Месяц назад +19

      This

    • @lucastrians
      @lucastrians Месяц назад +93

      ngl what field is critical thinking not necessary in

    • @ewa8253
      @ewa8253 Месяц назад +38

      not a very functional comment… Name 1 job where critical thinking wouldn’t be useful

  • @timsmainchannel6441
    @timsmainchannel6441 Месяц назад +43443

    There are more examples like this. During WW1, British soldiers needed helmets for head protection because the headwear they wore were outdated, so the Brodie helmet was created (the WW1 British helmet). After the soldiers started using the helmets, the injuries increased. Many people thought the helmets were the cause for all the injuries, but it was actually because the helmet prevented the soldiers from dying.
    Edit: Had to fix something in the text
    Edit 2: Just want to say thanks to the people who read through everything

    • @notsonerdgaming3406
      @notsonerdgaming3406 Месяц назад +4695

      Thats such a weird concept lol.
      "Yay! Our men are surviving!"
      To
      "Our men are injured because they ...are surviving?"

    • @catwhowalksbyhimself
      @catwhowalksbyhimself Месяц назад +2553

      Similarly there are still people today who insist that seatbelts are dangerous because of the minor injuries they cause in accident. Even though those injuries are cases where instead of a bruise, that person would have gone through a windshield instead.

    • @Dan-fw2db
      @Dan-fw2db Месяц назад +1398

      @@notsonerdgaming3406 It's mainly that they just see an increase in injuries, but don't notice a decrease in fatalities. Dead men don't take up hospital beds.

    • @MyNameIsntMaxwell
      @MyNameIsntMaxwell Месяц назад +496

      This also applies to wearing a helmet while riding bikes and motorcycles. Studies show those that did wear helmets sustained injuries more often, because they died less.

    • @PanzerkampfwagenVITigerIAusfE
      @PanzerkampfwagenVITigerIAusfE Месяц назад +193

      @@MyNameIsntMaxwellwe should really start to consider deaths as injuries in cases like these, just worse injuries

  • @TanmayDixit-0011
    @TanmayDixit-0011 Месяц назад +37762

    The concept of survivorship bias was initially introduced by 'Abraham Wald'.
    For anyone who is willing to know the name of the engineer!!!

    • @riccardomusumeci46
      @riccardomusumeci46 Месяц назад +57

      Tysm

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад +26

      Do you wanna play Gacha life with me

    • @corporalzeph2518
      @corporalzeph2518 Месяц назад +237

      I really dislike that he retells history without giving credit to the people that actually made the discovery. In the time he says "but a different engineer" he could've said Abraham Wald and at least have propagated his name instead of reducing him to an imaginary engineer (he was actually a mathematician)

    • @-TheUnkownUser
      @-TheUnkownUser Месяц назад +9

      Wasn’t Von Neumann who actually said that the survivors bias was the problem???

    • @vladtheemailer3223
      @vladtheemailer3223 Месяц назад +12

      ​@corporalzeph2518 Wald didn't actually say that, though. The military already knew. They had him do a study on the probability of survival given "X" amount of damage in a given area.

  • @M0AI-MOAl
    @M0AI-MOAl 5 дней назад +12

    I had a great grandpa who fought in a WW2 fighter jet. All I know is that he fought In the little pod with a gun because he was the smallest of his crew. One day though, they sent 12 jets/planes into the air, and only 1 didn’t get shot down, and that one was the one my great grandpa was in. They did still have many casualties on their jet/plane, but he was able to survive. Sadly he passed in 2010 and I was never able to meet him, but his story lives on in our family 🕊️🪦

    • @UnitedStatesOfficial843
      @UnitedStatesOfficial843 2 дня назад

      bot, fighter jets dont have gun pods

    • @M0AI-MOAl
      @M0AI-MOAl 2 дня назад +1

      @ 💀 idk if it was a jet but I know it was some sort of plane

    • @ciprules2505
      @ciprules2505 10 часов назад

      Had to have been a Jet Bomber if it had more than one Crew member
      What Nationality?

    • @M0AI-MOAl
      @M0AI-MOAl 10 часов назад

      @ American, there is also a picture of the plane at my grand parents house

  • @ares.arctic
    @ares.arctic Месяц назад +7520

    They say that in WWII, head injuries had dramatically increased. This was because the helmets had improved since WWI, frequently preventing soldiers from dying instantly.

    • @bluescorpion7
      @bluescorpion7 Месяц назад +16

      Decreased*❤

    • @colonelcorn9500
      @colonelcorn9500 Месяц назад +590

      @@bluescorpion7Nope, he was right the first time

    • @rinakatsuki2801
      @rinakatsuki2801 Месяц назад +494

      ​@@bluescorpion7 head injuries increased, because soldiers survived and was "injured" instead of dying and becoming "deceased".
      So the helmets did their job. It just looks weird if you only look at the statistics.

    • @Eirudy_Marionette_Deity
      @Eirudy_Marionette_Deity Месяц назад +44

      ​@@bluescorpion7 🤓

    • @gmari3343
      @gmari3343 Месяц назад +26

      ​@@rinakatsuki2801after reading and rereading this 3 to 5 times now reading this it all makes sense

  • @Rafael-2105
    @Rafael-2105 Месяц назад +2734

    Excellent example of survivorship bias. Concentrating on entities that passed a test instead of the ones that did not.

    • @pharaohsmagician8329
      @pharaohsmagician8329 Месяц назад +25

      Yes exactly because the ones that fail the test do not get to come back and report that they failed. They either get shot down in a war zone so they can't be retrieved and studied, or they do unalive so they can't come and say that the coping mechanism was not working long term. Unfortunately society may only care if it works short term until you've left that specific job and then youre someone else's problem

    • @Tman2bard
      @Tman2bard Месяц назад +7

      I think it's legit where the term comes from

    • @ilcyclista1
      @ilcyclista1 Месяц назад +11

      Kind of like how people at the top of pyramid schemes try to recruit "if I can make it, so can you."

    • @JesusPlsSaveMe
      @JesusPlsSaveMe Месяц назад

      ​@@pharaohsmagician8329
      Revelation 3:20
      Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
      HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
      Revelation 22:12-14
      And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
      I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
      Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    • @yoku651
      @yoku651 Месяц назад +7

      This is not just an example of survivorship bias. It is literally the exact situation that lead to the coinage of the term in the first place.

  • @cadebecker2486
    @cadebecker2486 Месяц назад +4360

    The thumbs up by the pilot at the end was hilarious.

    • @SynthLizard8
      @SynthLizard8 Месяц назад +57

      Kinda reminds me of that 'thumbs up kid' sitting at the computer.

    • @r.a.s5177
      @r.a.s5177 Месяц назад +13

      pilot after the most intense dogfight they ever been in their career

    • @stargazersdance
      @stargazersdance Месяц назад +4

      👱🏼‍♂️👍🏼

    • @youTribedi
      @youTribedi Месяц назад +4

      Was looking for this comment lol

    • @muhammadburhan6567
      @muhammadburhan6567 Месяц назад +2

      Bro went like “🙂👍”

  • @MadPutz
    @MadPutz Месяц назад +3

    This is why diversity of thought is the most important form of diversity. People who have different instincts and analytical approaches can be very valuable when you’re focused on problem solving, though you may disagree on other topics like politics or interests etc.

  • @fakiirification
    @fakiirification Месяц назад +1855

    the textbook example of survivorship bias. telling anyone this story makes them instantly understand it.

    • @Hellol-po7eq
      @Hellol-po7eq Месяц назад +3

      I dont get it

    • @n00bxl71
      @n00bxl71 Месяц назад +52

      ​@@Hellol-po7eqThink of it this way. The planes were hit in those areas, and they survived. None of the planes that survived were hit in the other areas. So the ones that did get hit in those areas must have never made it back. So those are the areas that need reinforcement.

    • @Hellol-po7eq
      @Hellol-po7eq Месяц назад

      @@n00bxl71 that actually helped, thanks

    • @Hellol-po7eq
      @Hellol-po7eq Месяц назад +3

      @@n00bxl71 Thanks 🙏

    • @StefanCreates
      @StefanCreates Месяц назад +14

      @@Hellol-po7eq so why couldn't you understand this from the video? it's the same explanation

  • @Twilight_StaRz
    @Twilight_StaRz Месяц назад +2628

    Zack switched up from tsunamis to planes really quick

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад +2

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @pegpeggy3737
      @pegpeggy3737 Месяц назад +12

      A reply bot has been detected on this comment please ignore it and report it. Don't interact with the bot it feeds off your attention! 82812

    • @miike6245
      @miike6245 Месяц назад +7

      @ACCOUNT_551-k5k 0/10 ragebait

    • @axolotiator2505
      @axolotiator2505 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@miike6245imma pee on the bots creator

    • @J09-555
      @J09-555 Месяц назад +6

      Let's just hope he doesn't switch up to towers all of a sudden

  • @McFlurry36
    @McFlurry36 Месяц назад +11290

    “But another engineer”
    *The exact same engineer*
    Edit: I know the tie is different lol

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад +9

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @Mrvishnu1276
      @Mrvishnu1276 Месяц назад +9

      ​@IDareYouToTakeALookreported

    • @djmhammer331
      @djmhammer331 Месяц назад +3

      LOL

    • @siddharthanand123
      @siddharthanand123 Месяц назад +37

      This is some mess here

    • @Envixie
      @Envixie Месяц назад +44

      Nah he had a purple tie

  • @SammyTheSillyo-o
    @SammyTheSillyo-o Месяц назад +1

    My great grandpa was a pilot in the air force in both world wars! He survived and painlessly passed on
    my current property:)

  • @humanbeing1429
    @humanbeing1429 Месяц назад +663

    That makes perfect sense. We sometimes fail to see the most obvious logic and go to the wrong ideas.

    • @joshualim524
      @joshualim524 Месяц назад

      Hmm .why not just reinforce the whole wing?? .... Still a wrong logic

    • @CyclingAMP
      @CyclingAMP Месяц назад +61

      ​@@joshualim524 of course there is a reason. Weight,time, resources, mass production..etc

    • @theunfunnyjokester
      @theunfunnyjokester Месяц назад +17

      @@joshualim524too heavy

    • @waterless_sponge
      @waterless_sponge Месяц назад +7

      ​@@joshualim524making it stronger means making it heavier, because it is denser.

    • @sean4688
      @sean4688 Месяц назад

      @@joshualim524lack of resources i think

  • @andrijapesic79
    @andrijapesic79 Месяц назад +1035

    A similar thing happened during ww1 with helmets(I think, I heard this some time ago). After giving helmets to soldiers there was an increase of soldiers suffering from head trauma/wounds. Some thought that it was because soldiers were less careful thinking the helmets protected them but instead the reason was that those who died were reported as just dead not how they died so while the number of head wounds increased the number of dead decreased.

    • @RealFishyFrog
      @RealFishyFrog Месяц назад +12

      Here before the bots

    • @tommibear4013
      @tommibear4013 Месяц назад +12

      @@RealFishyFrogSame

    • @reallygoodgame
      @reallygoodgame Месяц назад +3

      ​@@RealFishyFrog People who keep commenting something like you are instead bots

    • @sethriutort7067
      @sethriutort7067 Месяц назад +3

      The helmets saved the soldiers. What gave the helmeted soldiers head trauma would probably have killed them hetlmetless.

    • @RealFishyFrog
      @RealFishyFrog Месяц назад +1

      @@reallygoodgame So youre saying, the bots that spam hate speech and racial slurs are better? If so, please go get a job

  • @berschneiderkorbinian8386
    @berschneiderkorbinian8386 Месяц назад +1170

    He had a point, and it was proven right.
    Edit, thanks for the 1000 likes❤️

  • @awansmith4571
    @awansmith4571 Месяц назад +6

    That's a great example of perspective

  • @NekzLvL
    @NekzLvL Месяц назад +954

    I like that engineer logic. Truly one of a kind.

  • @Lost-Cause.V1
    @Lost-Cause.V1 Месяц назад +625

    Its sounds like common sense when being explained today but imagine how The engineers statement blew everyone's mind

  • @swordbrethrenmordred1230
    @swordbrethrenmordred1230 Месяц назад +1031

    A similar situation already happened in WW1. After the British Army issued helmets to all Frontline soldiers, they notice a massive increase in injuries and were about to retrieve the helmets until someone notice that the number of injuries might have increased, but the number of deaths decreased by a similar amount, meaning that the helmets worked and lessened deaths to injuries.

    • @Vanpers
      @Vanpers Месяц назад +4

      Great example

    • @alexmiotke8016
      @alexmiotke8016 Месяц назад +1

      The comment below yours says the same thing 😂

    • @kiddprodigy6594
      @kiddprodigy6594 Месяц назад

      @@alexmiotke8016and it’s older

    • @alexmiotke8016
      @alexmiotke8016 Месяц назад

      @@kiddprodigy6594 what’s funny is it goes into more detail and this one looks like cliff notes

    • @crazyksp8344
      @crazyksp8344 Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@alexmiotke8016okay and? It doesn't make his comment of any less value so why the hate? First time seeing comments being repeated in a comment section? Lol

  • @IAmAHuman-z7t
    @IAmAHuman-z7t 7 дней назад +2

    The easiest way: reinforce the entire plane

  • @likeneveronline
    @likeneveronline Месяц назад +380

    Survivor's Bias is also why if I collect the statement of a group of people to find the chance to survive Russian Roulette, I can conclude it is 100% safe to play Russian Roulette.
    Someone may be able to explain the example better but this a example of Survivor's Bias

    • @TON-vz3pe
      @TON-vz3pe Месяц назад +45

      Right. Because those who would oppose it didn't survive to tell.

    • @elduquecaradura1468
      @elduquecaradura1468 Месяц назад +24

      5 out of 6 doctors reccomend playing Russian Roulette!

    • @total_blasphemy
      @total_blasphemy Месяц назад

      @@elduquecaradura14685 out of 5 doctors now recommend playing Russian roulette!

    • @Novet_C
      @Novet_C Месяц назад +8

      ​@elduquecaradura1468 5/5 doctor's recommend playing Russian roulette

    • @SandreyTooniez
      @SandreyTooniez Месяц назад +3

      ​@@jibstackingbros being ableist while being afraid to be ableist
      Just commit to it buddy

  • @zeenathismail8054
    @zeenathismail8054 Месяц назад +332

    that guy nodding his head at the end like its ok when the plane has bullet holes in it

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @isabellakhongji345
      @isabellakhongji345 Месяц назад +3

      Ugh bots

    • @Lebonbon-o3k
      @Lebonbon-o3k Месяц назад

      AGE IS JUST A NUMBER BECAUSE MY CONTENT IS BETTER

    • @lucythefrogge
      @lucythefrogge Месяц назад

      I mean he just survived losing a dogfight

  • @SN_Alen-Star-Sporty12.624
    @SN_Alen-Star-Sporty12.624 Месяц назад +596

    The animators need a raise fr!

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @matthewmccall3708
      @matthewmccall3708 Месяц назад +6

      @IDareYouToTakeALookI’m calling the police

    • @Japanesse-UTTP
      @Japanesse-UTTP Месяц назад

      😢"bro as a Japanese little girls are so irresistible we just can't hold ourselves"
      Please spread love ❤

    • @SN_Alen-Star-Sporty12.624
      @SN_Alen-Star-Sporty12.624 Месяц назад +1

      @@matthewmccall3708 Yeah please!

    • @Mrvishnu1276
      @Mrvishnu1276 Месяц назад +1

      ​@Japanesse-e6sbro stop

  • @crimsonking4379
    @crimsonking4379 Месяц назад +1

    And thus, we got the best metaphor for survivorship bias

  • @MELLO_Official_YT
    @MELLO_Official_YT Месяц назад +1625

    “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger “
    -some wise person named ZackDFilms’.
    Yooo thanks for 1.6k likes 👍

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Месяц назад +4

      My farts are better than Zack’s farts 💨

    • @yvonnebawaan9479
      @yvonnebawaan9479 Месяц назад +7

      Copy

    • @annemone4758
      @annemone4758 Месяц назад +3

      Nietzsche, yk just in case you forgot that wise person's name and would like to read more

    • @MAXIMUSPRIOR
      @MAXIMUSPRIOR Месяц назад +7

      This is such a dumb thing to say

    • @Komi-z3v
      @Komi-z3v Месяц назад

      Yu zhong

  • @me8042
    @me8042 Месяц назад +163

    That is brilliant thinking! But looking back, a very logical conclusion. It made total sense! He needed more recognition for his engineering!

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Месяц назад

      My farts are better than Zack’s farts 💨

    • @supdude5194
      @supdude5194 Месяц назад +5

      Regardless whether he was recognized at all, his discovery couldn't get more recognition than having the event published online

    • @1800bhudda
      @1800bhudda Месяц назад +1

      Facts, excellent thinking nonetheless.

    • @karensabortionclinic7491
      @karensabortionclinic7491 Месяц назад

      i’m so confused because is that not basic common sense

    • @asiamies9153
      @asiamies9153 Месяц назад

      Wasn't he a mathematician, not an engineet?

  • @user-ow1xd5xo9v
    @user-ow1xd5xo9v Месяц назад +105

    The dude's face nodding just made me lose it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Male_Duck133
      @Male_Duck133 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah why is nobody talking about it

    • @supanutchotsiri4210
      @supanutchotsiri4210 Месяц назад +1

      👍😀

    • @EmilianoRizo-k5r
      @EmilianoRizo-k5r Месяц назад

      Who asked?

    • @user-ow1xd5xo9v
      @user-ow1xd5xo9v Месяц назад +2

      @@EmilianoRizo-k5r do you feel lonely?? This is the the simplest attention seeking trick ever and I care about people, so just reach out man

    • @Male_Duck133
      @Male_Duck133 Месяц назад

      @@EmilianoRizo-k5r why would you care enough to ask “who asked”

  • @Roseue9024
    @Roseue9024 Месяц назад +2

    "Did you bring the reinforcements?"
    "Reinforcements? I am the reinforcements"

  • @dragonmanender54
    @dragonmanender54 Месяц назад +23

    This is the same vibes as “100% of war interviewees say they didn’t die in battle” and assuming that war isn’t deadly

  • @fl0_hrl
    @fl0_hrl Месяц назад +95

    Zack's videos are the absolute opposite of brainrot. You can quickly consume those without thinking too much, but it's actually interesting and educative.

    • @AndriuxDev
      @AndriuxDev Месяц назад +3

      Now *THAT'S* a good argument! 👆🌟

  • @meenaadhi6581
    @meenaadhi6581 Месяц назад +22

    That last guy nodding got me soo bad😂😂😂

  • @glitchcablevr
    @glitchcablevr Месяц назад +6

    “Just smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave…”

  • @carbine090909
    @carbine090909 Месяц назад +388

    Classic example of survivor bias.

    • @GiraffeFlavored
      @GiraffeFlavored Месяц назад

      Quite literally the origin of the term ._.

    • @dreckigerdan3739
      @dreckigerdan3739 Месяц назад +6

      oh someone read the title, nice for you

    • @ily.SUMMER
      @ily.SUMMER 7 дней назад

      Bro u aunt special for reading the title🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @josephn944
      @josephn944 7 дней назад +1

      Not just a “classic example”, but actually the reason the idea in its modern form exists

    • @carbine090909
      @carbine090909 7 дней назад

      @@dreckigerdan3739 lol, whoops, no, more like being unobservant.

  • @trentoncrowder425
    @trentoncrowder425 Месяц назад +64

    Both make sense at a glance but only one makes sense once you dig into it

    • @herosdiaz8757
      @herosdiaz8757 Месяц назад +1

      I still don't get it. I'm leaning to the guy that said reinforce the not-hit spot. -_-

    • @dotand0
      @dotand0 Месяц назад +16

      ​@@herosdiaz8757 because the hit spots of the planes that came back survived, meaning they werent in vital need of reinforcement, however the planes that got hit in the non-hit spot didnt come back meaning they died and so those parts were vital to protect and reinforced

    • @herosdiaz8757
      @herosdiaz8757 Месяц назад

      @@dotand0 ok good. That's what I suspected.

  • @ciprules2505
    @ciprules2505 Месяц назад +124

    “Why not reinforce the whole plane”?
    1. It would make the plane heavier, slower and an easier target.
    2. Armor was mainly for the Pilots and the fuel tanks were self-sealing.
    3. A Minengeschoss (Mine Shell) had more explosive filler than most Allied Cannon Rounds.
    4. It is easier to replace an aircraft than a Pilot
    5. This should be Common Sense.

    • @WHATTHEFUCKISAKILOMETERR
      @WHATTHEFUCKISAKILOMETERR Месяц назад

      This should get pinned

    • @tylerb2644
      @tylerb2644 Месяц назад +7

      What should be common sense is not to reinforce the spots with bullet holes on surviving planes just because that spot got shot by chance.

    • @I_inhale_spaghetti_regularly
      @I_inhale_spaghetti_regularly Месяц назад

      You clearly play warthunder, what nation?

    • @ccflan
      @ccflan Месяц назад

      @@ciprules2505 shut up please 😅🤣🤣

    • @ciprules2505
      @ciprules2505 Месяц назад +1

      ⁠@@I_inhale_spaghetti_regularlyYou have no clue about common sense and no I don’t play War Thunder, at least against players. I just like flying planes from time to time but War Thunder is not a simulator, and I don’t care what Nation I play.
      Edited for spelling mistakes

  • @Legos4Musketeers
    @Legos4Musketeers Месяц назад +1

    The guy at the end: *stops plane like a car* 👍🏻

  • @yoloswagprobro8227
    @yoloswagprobro8227 Месяц назад +38

    It’s not about the planes that some back, it’s the ones that dont

  • @marmiksoni3153
    @marmiksoni3153 Месяц назад +26

    Now that's the example of different perspectives.

  • @giovannifrrri5495
    @giovannifrrri5495 Месяц назад +26

    Funny how humans sometimes forget how logic works 😂

  • @ChrisTrikollos
    @ChrisTrikollos Месяц назад

    Not only an engineer but also a detective... We rock 😎

  • @miguelangelohebrew213
    @miguelangelohebrew213 Месяц назад +40

    Finally no one was hurt in this video

    • @mikeshrinegomez3665
      @mikeshrinegomez3665 Месяц назад

      Seems like you're the only one to make an overused comment

    • @Atom85825
      @Atom85825 Месяц назад

      also incorrect, clearly one of the plane exploded, somebodys definitely in it

    • @EianScratch
      @EianScratch Месяц назад

      Atleast on screen

  • @chucker173
    @chucker173 Месяц назад +82

    They did not assume the bullets holes were clustered at the weakest points, they noticed the planes were all being hit in the same areas so their first instinct was to add reinforcements to the place most likely to be hit

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY Месяц назад

      True

    • @vladivosdog
      @vladivosdog Месяц назад +1

      same thing kiddo

    • @chucker173
      @chucker173 Месяц назад +2

      @@vladivosdog nah, because one makes sense, and the other would make the engineers stupid

  • @typicalroblox8183
    @typicalroblox8183 Месяц назад +4

    The way bro smiled and looked at us 😭🙏

  • @kukumbagumba2264
    @kukumbagumba2264 Месяц назад

    Sometimes going against your first instincts can bring you to an unexpected success

  • @Epoch11
    @Epoch11 Месяц назад +6

    This was true inspiration and true genius.

  • @Tomagdamian
    @Tomagdamian Месяц назад +49

    Bro is actualy a genius for that

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @Tomagdamian
      @Tomagdamian Месяц назад

      @@Lebonbon-o3k bro these bots💀

    • @JTHECOMENTER
      @JTHECOMENTER Месяц назад

      What the actual fuck with this bots

    • @AkShepShep
      @AkShepShep Месяц назад

      Dude these bots

    • @sleepingrrandom2876
      @sleepingrrandom2876 Месяц назад

      What'd you do to your replies bro?

  • @ygorschuma3059
    @ygorschuma3059 Месяц назад

    For those who don't know, on most aircraft designs, these spots were usually where ammo and fuel tanks are located.

  • @The0iled1
    @The0iled1 Месяц назад +16

    The pilot just looked unsurprised by the fight he was in a sec ago 💀😭

  • @DERICKanimationsAndOTHERZ
    @DERICKanimationsAndOTHERZ Месяц назад +9

    The definition of "Think Smarter , not harder.'

  • @cosmicwakes6443
    @cosmicwakes6443 Месяц назад +22

    It actually were mathematicians who came to this conclusion.

  • @bucket9561
    @bucket9561 Месяц назад +1

    That is absolutely what they should have done. If you just reinforce the parts that can survive even while heavily damaged then its more likely the more valuable and critical areas will be hit instead

  • @AuraEdits001
    @AuraEdits001 Месяц назад +42

    At This Point Zack Never Runs Out Of Ideas.

    • @BooMushroom
      @BooMushroom Месяц назад +1

      Y

    • @duckymomo7935
      @duckymomo7935 Месяц назад

      There infinitely many things to say see or know under the sun

    • @alexthegreat5009
      @alexthegreat5009 Месяц назад +1

      You obviously do though because I see this fucking comment everywhere

  • @Meow-262
    @Meow-262 Месяц назад +8

    That's the difference between "critical hit" and "severe damage"

  • @liylaliyla
    @liylaliyla Месяц назад +7

    verisium made whole video on concept known as survivors bias, worth a watch for anyone who hasn't seen it

  • @riduck
    @riduck Месяц назад +2

    Perhaps important to mention the reinforcements would be too heavy to put everywhere. Hence the reason for selective placement.

  • @AMSPACECAT
    @AMSPACECAT Месяц назад +13

    My dyslexic brain had to watched this multiple times to understand it.

    • @jojohimus
      @jojohimus 7 дней назад

      I also didn’t understand at first, then I noticed that the planes that got hit in the area survived 😂

  • @SkullarTheSkelly
    @SkullarTheSkelly Месяц назад +23

    A perfect illustration of why being good at something does not equate to being exceptional at it.

  • @jtperez657
    @jtperez657 Месяц назад +6

    Best explanation of this I've seen. Short and perfectly understood

  • @77mpickett
    @77mpickett 2 дня назад

    I just wanna see everyone's face in that room when that engineer made that suggestion. I bet they were floored.

  • @AdamMPick
    @AdamMPick Месяц назад +14

    Mathematician. He was a mathematician. His name was Abraham Wald.

    • @brajat5538
      @brajat5538 Месяц назад

      Yeah, I read it in a book - how not to be wrong

  • @williamspratt
    @williamspratt Месяц назад +16

    the definition of thinking outside the box

  • @RoscomaHD
    @RoscomaHD Месяц назад +20

    “But another engineer”
    proceeds to show the same engineer

  • @fareedsyal-jq9sy
    @fareedsyal-jq9sy Месяц назад

    That’s a mfing genius jeez

  • @shawty826
    @shawty826 Месяц назад +6

    Zack D's animations keep getting better

  • @Grave_tyrant
    @Grave_tyrant Месяц назад +15

    "you got a hole in your left wing 🗣️🔥"

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @Grave_tyrant
      @Grave_tyrant Месяц назад

      I am a fucing Miner

    • @Lebonbon-o3k
      @Lebonbon-o3k Месяц назад

      corny

    • @Grave_tyrant
      @Grave_tyrant Месяц назад

      @@Lebonbon-o3k wth did i do?

    • @SiripongPattananititorn
      @SiripongPattananititorn Месяц назад

      I don't expect to see war thunder reference here , but that ok cause i looking for it in the comment section

  • @TheRandomGuysOfficial
    @TheRandomGuysOfficial Месяц назад +16

    Look, a clear comment section, no "guy here looks traumatized" comments yet

    • @ThatOneRandomAnimator45
      @ThatOneRandomAnimator45 Месяц назад

      Real lmao

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад

      Can you play Gacha life with me

    • @Mrvishnu1276
      @Mrvishnu1276 Месяц назад

      ​@Bkevinmssno

    • @TheRandomGuysOfficial
      @TheRandomGuysOfficial Месяц назад +1

      ​​@Dont.ReadMyBanner*loud incorrect buzzer*

    • @TheRandomGuysOfficial
      @TheRandomGuysOfficial Месяц назад

      ​​@IDareYouToTakeALooki have never gotten bot comments before💀
      Can you stop talking about phedophila and that age is just a number, you also need consent, what are you, drake?

  • @iamarandom409
    @iamarandom409 8 дней назад +2

    “😃👌” w guy at the end

  • @kubaalsgamer
    @kubaalsgamer Месяц назад +12

    Sounds like the bald guy with the bugatti said it first

  • @SuatallahhahaOcal
    @SuatallahhahaOcal Месяц назад +18

    Its like tony stark learns from its mistakes

    • @guyman1570
      @guyman1570 Месяц назад

      Except he almost never ever does. 😂

    • @SuatallahhahaOcal
      @SuatallahhahaOcal Месяц назад +1

      @@guyman1570 Its not tony stank bro

  • @Crjitshim
    @Crjitshim Месяц назад +6

    Probably the best example I've seen of "think outside if the box"

  • @maruftim
    @maruftim Месяц назад

    I doubt they ever thought of reinforcing the surviving parts, those people were smart, they definitely knew right away which points to reinforce

  • @one_qiqi
    @one_qiqi Месяц назад +36

    zack be traumatizing planes now

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад

      Who wants to play Gacha life with me

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      @Japanese_Empire-k8k Месяц назад

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    • @داتور
      @داتور Месяц назад +2

      the barrage of bots have arrived

    • @داتور
      @داتور Месяц назад

      @@Bkevinmssplus I saw ur other channel defending Bella the wolf

  • @M17262
    @M17262 Месяц назад +42

    One concern…
    Why did the plane land without landing gear

    • @gbishel
      @gbishel Месяц назад +3

      Because the landing gear got shot, duh.

    • @M17262
      @M17262 Месяц назад +1

      @@gbishel well why was it literally floating when it landed

    • @schaserneo
      @schaserneo Месяц назад +4

      Maybe because a youtube short doesnt need so much detail?

    • @crow_r8084
      @crow_r8084 Месяц назад +1

      What must go up, must come down

    • @literallyanf15eagle
      @literallyanf15eagle Месяц назад

      @@schaserneowdym so much detail that's just BASIC

  • @CubeOramaCubes
    @CubeOramaCubes Месяц назад +5

    A good idea-reinforce the whole plane

    • @MaliqIbrahim-1306
      @MaliqIbrahim-1306 Месяц назад +9

      Ww2 planes needed to be mass produced so this would probably make things more expensive. Also extra weight wouod make the plane less maneuverable

    • @Niko-Codes
      @Niko-Codes Месяц назад +1

      Weight.

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 Месяц назад

      They should make the whole plane out of black box

    • @NoahRoss-yn2hw
      @NoahRoss-yn2hw Месяц назад

      @@CubeOramaCubes nope to heavy and to expensive

  • @Thechunkgod
    @Thechunkgod Месяц назад +1

    I want to give the guy at the end a hug 😂

  • @trainaddict
    @trainaddict Месяц назад +6

    stopping kids from saying first.

    • @Bkevinmss
      @Bkevinmss Месяц назад +1

      Would you like to come over and play gacha life with me

    • @trainaddict
      @trainaddict Месяц назад

      @IDareYouToTakeALook wtf

    • @trainaddict
      @trainaddict Месяц назад

      @@Bkevinmss no thx

    • @Lebonbon-o3k
      @Lebonbon-o3k Месяц назад +1

      AGE IS JUST A NUMBER BECAUSE MY CONTENT IS BETTER

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      @rifkiananda3080 Месяц назад

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  • @SashaTheOneAndOnly
    @SashaTheOneAndOnly Месяц назад +11

    That's so obvious. Why would the other guy not think that at first?

    • @empireyouth5791
      @empireyouth5791 Месяц назад +10

      It’s only obvious in hindsight.

    • @karensabortionclinic7491
      @karensabortionclinic7491 Месяц назад

      right

    • @nidohime6233
      @nidohime6233 Месяц назад +2

      Is called a bias for a reason.

    • @empireyouth5791
      @empireyouth5791 Месяц назад

      @@nidohime6233 I wouldn’t say this is intrinsically bias. But rather it’s simply lacking critical information.
      The only information they receive it was where their surviving planes were damaged.
      Assuming the inverse of the areas not being damage being the most important to protect actually is relying on having no information on those spots getting damage.
      Basically it’s proving some thing with a negative which is very very intuitive for people then they’re running data sets because as I said it’s the lack of information that prove something rather than information itself

    • @rafaelgomides3062
      @rafaelgomides3062 Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@empireyouth5791The bias refers to the data. The data set is intrinsically biased because the data points that don't survive-but that are equally relevant-don't get to make part of it, even though they should.

  • @VYDEOS2
    @VYDEOS2 Месяц назад +3

    Me, an intellectual: just reinforce the whole plane 🗿

  • @stvedude
    @stvedude Месяц назад +1

    third scientist: reinforce the whole thing

    • @WEEWOOWEEWOO-jn6tk
      @WEEWOOWEEWOO-jn6tk Месяц назад

      Well, fire him due to the simple thing that weight exists

  • @Duraludude
    @Duraludude Месяц назад +13

    “Or we can just reinforce the whole dang plane.”

    • @kenotube3160
      @kenotube3160 Месяц назад +14

      It would then weigh too much.

    • @fluffsquirrel
      @fluffsquirrel Месяц назад

      "with invisible paint"

    • @caseybanter
      @caseybanter Месяц назад +3

      You do realize that the planes still need to be able to take-off and fly, right?

    • @fluffsquirrel
      @fluffsquirrel Месяц назад

      @@caseybanter Nooo really? I thought they were weird models of cars, my bad

    • @caseybanter
      @caseybanter Месяц назад +1

      @@fluffsquirrel wow, you thought that? That's sad.

  • @williambarr318
    @williambarr318 Месяц назад +8

    Real ones know the Top G has already talked about this.

    • @kv4648
      @kv4648 Месяц назад +4

      What top G? You mean Andrew Tate?
      This is a common story people tell to each other.
      I heard it a decade ago

    • @googlefaps5883
      @googlefaps5883 Месяц назад

      Where Dyu think he got it from. I’ve even heard the story before

    • @MighKaHawking
      @MighKaHawking Месяц назад

      Was looking for this comment 😂

    • @TheSpoonThatDied
      @TheSpoonThatDied Месяц назад

      Who is top g

  • @Herobey75
    @Herobey75 Месяц назад +13

    Bro just upgrade whole plane💀

    • @scooternc95
      @scooternc95 Месяц назад +7

      Adding armor adds weight. Too much armor makes it too heavy

    • @Herobey75
      @Herobey75 Месяц назад

      @@scooternc95 i send same massage in a video that same subject and ı got same response

    • @derpking3970
      @derpking3970 Месяц назад +1

      @@Herobey75because it’s an accurate statement

  • @Shelly_mybaby
    @Shelly_mybaby Месяц назад +1

    World:OMG IM DYING
    People:OMG WE ARE CRASHING
    guy:*thumbs up*

  • @LairdErnst
    @LairdErnst Месяц назад

    I remember this discussion. Trying to armor the parts that were shot instead of armoring the parts that keep the plane going. I think we actually went over that in a psychology class about missing the deeper issue.

  • @mirihawk
    @mirihawk Месяц назад

    This has been a lesson in every stats class I’ve taken

  • @victorguerrero769
    @victorguerrero769 Месяц назад

    We are winning the history class with this one

  • @Poland_official_country
    @Poland_official_country Месяц назад

    REINFORCE EVERYTHING MAN

  • @UniverseSinking2011
    @UniverseSinking2011 Месяц назад +1

    Brilliant logic.

  • @aliarslan4639
    @aliarslan4639 21 день назад

    That soldier at the end was really aprooving

  • @MadSpectro7
    @MadSpectro7 Месяц назад

    When I read Jurassic Park and got to the part where Ian Malcolm talks about "thin-telligence," my mind immediately went to this. Thintelligence is understanding the data, intelligence is understanding the context behind the data.

  • @Rubkx
    @Rubkx 23 дня назад +1

    “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” type

  • @ImNotHim123
    @ImNotHim123 5 часов назад

    I love how shorts people invent random lore to get better retention

  • @RayAlegre-in3xy
    @RayAlegre-in3xy 18 дней назад

    Mad respect to the engineer

  • @leoplayz5160
    @leoplayz5160 Месяц назад +1

    “Just reinforce the entire plane.”
    -LeoPlayz5160

  • @austinhixson625
    @austinhixson625 Месяц назад

    That’s one of those things that is both incredibly clever yet incredibly obvious at the same time. Seeing the world from someone or something else’s perspective is a difficult thing to do

  • @MindMap101
    @MindMap101 Месяц назад

    As an engineer, I could only image the arguments in that room