Another AMD card in for repair 🙄
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Overclockers paradise , that pcb was sprayed with plastidip for liquid nitrogen cooling , and lacker for liquid metal isolation .
O man......... your right.
Yes and likely thermal paste or something similar pushed around video ports in an attempt to keep out air and minimize condensation which can become a huge pain at sub-ambient temps. Usually doesn't damage anything but random display drop-outs and interference in the middle of benchmarks isn't a fun time.
Once again, not really an AMD issue. Not defending them, they frustrate me like everyone else but I wish he'd stop jumping conclusions about AMD cards when the problem isn't specific to them.
@@JJFX- Was quite literally just thinking the second part of what you said. Thank you, someone had to say it.
And if the card was made by Asus (who makes also Nvidia boards), why blame AMD for that? It’s a case of confirmation bias in my opinion.
Was just about to type this when I seen this message 😂😂😂 def been OC hahah I’m thinking people are sending ya there garbage 😂
So even if that goop was put on by the manufacturer, why do you blame AMD for it?....AMD didn't make that card, Asus did. As mentioned, that's probably an LN2 card and that goop is probably liquid tape, and in that case no wonder that card is a mess. BTW I have a CNC mill, I hit you up about a 1080ti repair, I actually have a couple more likely broken 1080ti's on the way.......maybe we can work something out.
He is well aware of that but he probably wanted to troll the NVIDIA ultra fanboys by sounding like one ;)
...I hope so for him....
@@doyouwtech9012They do suck to work on but its odd sometimes when a nvidia card and amd card side by side from the same company assembling the GPUs are different quality. Brings more questions than answers.
@@GoonyMclinux read again @blazini comment as I agree with him it must be something even outside manufacturer (asus) control. I never saw that kind of goop on any GPU cards exept wierd experimentation by users like LN2, oil tanks, etc...
This is obvious this had nothing to do with AMD or manufacturer, just by the look at the HDMI polution. Be smarter and dont fall into fanboyzism plz ;)
@@doyouwtech9012 yeah true, could be, no need to be snarky bud, calling people stupid is disrespectful.
@@GoonyMclinux who called you stupid ? not me !
"To be creative you've got to be poor" - amen to that bro!
Painfully true...
I've gone down with the nastiest of colds and these videos are therapeutic for me to watch while laying in bed and sneezing profusely. Thanks dude.
That's a COVID variant dude. We all had it or have it. Sleep well and eat well.
I just got over it. Saw a meme that made me laugh though.
"How to sneeze like me"
Step 1: Sneeze 🤧
Step 2: Sneeze again 🤧
Step 3: Sneeze a third time 🤧
Step 4: This is your life now 🤧
😂🤣
@@Dandan-tg6tjah yes, if you're sick, it has to be covid
Maybe one Day you will also learn to repair AMD cards aswell 😉
That's the plan!
When you apply rubbing alcohol, the adhesive residue will lose its adhesion and will precipitate. This can also work with acetone, or nail polish remover. Keep in mind that alcohol or acetone may damage painted surfaces, so be careful when using these substances.@@northwestrepair
@@northwestrepair good time to start OC my card xD
@@northwestrepair Is your gripes with AMD cards something focused on the MBA cards? (Made by AMD) Or is it their partner cards as well? I have and use a couple cards from both AMD and Nvidia but they're partner cards, one Sapphire the other 3 are Asus.
memory chip shifted at 44:00 because it was never aligned to begin with. Solder was just doing its job and pulled the chip in line 1 row off.
This is no factory or production. This card has been tampered with. Somebody was there before you.
18:42 Yeah, I can relate to that. A while back, I remember attempting to learn C++, and what I discovered when writing in C is that the parameter code is written backward. It's like left is right, but you have to write the functions and variables starting from the left. It's just weird..
assignment usually goes from right to left, thats all :p
My amd experience has been so good on rdna 2 with my rx 6800, max of 75c on the hot spot with a mild fan profile in a good airflow case playing star field, my vram never hits over 60c everything running super good.
I used to run nvidia gpus my last one being a rtx 3080 I was gifted but at the time I had a rx 6800xt I could not believe how much better the 6800xt looked in games it was a breakthrough moment for me nvidia cards look bland to me and blurry.
I knew right then and there amd from now on not only looking better pulling less power and having more vram but not costing 20-40 % more money for features I do not care for.
I agree although I use an ASRock 6700xt 12 gb version witn two fans I did however change the thermal paste on the chip it self since hot spot was hitting 105 when avarege was 65 and I do mean every single temp sensor was showing that under load and in re4 remake so now I'm from 75-80 degrees on the die hotspot it self which is 5 degrees difference under load which is the same as in idle
Yeah this looks like conformal coating and Plasti dip for an overclockers card..
I know the red substance is cement/glue to temporary hold components in place as the board makes its way through the reflow oven. Perhaps the black substance is a conformal coating sprayed over the board after it cools down? Maybe it oxides when heat is applied in the presents of oxygen?
Interesting Video as Always, Keep Them Coming!
It has to be from assembly process, crap is all over the place sometimes, its like they preheated the crap out of them during assembly and baked the crap on or something.
This isn't all from manufacturing. It's a card used for extreme overclocking that was covered with plastidip or some kind of conformal coating. Red stuff might be but since it's pressed into areas like behind the HDMI port, it's more likely thermal paste or something similar used to minimize display dropouts caused by condensation at sub-ambient temps.
36:37 soldering fumes gives that headache. Maybe not immediately, but after day
Everybody is entitled to their opinions. When working as a RV solar tech, I saw the way most manufacturers made their coaches and it would confirm to me not to buy that brand or brands. When your working on the guts of something and you know your stuff. The bad things stick out like a sore thumb. But in this case, that board was most definitely plastic dipped. Can't blame AMD for that one. Personally, I'm on my 3rd AMD card and they have all been very good. Were they built great? No, heck my second XFX card was bent from one end to the other cooler and all. Still worked great but was wonky. My latest Asrock 6800xt is much better built, but it is one of their higher end cards. It's really hard to judge AMD for what third party vendors make.
*TIP*
Get yo self a set of hot tweezers and when you need to remove a Chips Solder array from the PCB's
Cut a short piece of solder wick and clamp it with yo HOT tweezers and use the wick as if it were
a brush to soak and clean the Chip &OR PCB solder array/s with barely any "if not any damage"
to the PCB/Chips Solder Mask &OR Conformal Coating/s.
that was not factory. too random and messy. it was from user error. something happened in pc to cause it
Or maybe something bad happened at the Asus factory?
Techpowerup posted a review (asus radeon rx 5700 xt strix oc) and there's a clear view of the pcb and there's no red paste on any of the display port and there's no black goop on any of the vrams and caps. Chances are this is not from the factory but from the end user or from the previous repair shop.
Quit trying to blame AMD for every single thing, makes you look kinda pathetic.
I said i dont think this is a factory thing, i said i dont know.
If you were to watch the video instead of commenting right away, you would know the full opinion -_-
oooh,AMD guys gettin' horny..and from the poorman point of wiew amd cards seems having more problems than nvidia..amd..nvidia..who cares when is not important can some card be fixed only how long it gonna last for you to fix the issue.and now car manufacturers making our job more expensive and time consuming..soon a regular maintenance will be to change windshield every 2y..where's tech goin',bro..backwards or..this man invest something verry precious into the industry and we are judgmental,as always..lol..its like you meet a perfect girl,beautifull,smart,but at the end you say 'but she has one eyebrow too thin than other..hat off to this man who raising the dead gpu's back to life..celebrate life
30:50 thats not right, with an oven you got a nearly closed system which will be much smaller than your room obviously. With an hot air blower the system pretty much is your whole room. So which system will need more energy to heat up by 5 degrees celsius? Right! Your room! So your loosing energy consistently with a blower into the room while an oven is an insulated system. Time is the only thing you are saving here. With an oven you can also avoid some/most of the soldering gas that may be harmful. In the older days the people used soldering tin already mixed with a flux called Rosin or collophony which smells like pine woods and is less harmful than other flux that is used by the industry. This soldering tin was intended for "home-use" and is gone nowadays. I think they found cheaper alternatives that are also harmless.
I hope you work on one of Intel's cards like Arc a750 or a770 to give us your opinion about them
36:40
"Here in Kentucky I'm having a headache almost every other day. Why that is, I don't know"
If this isn't a jest, its highly possible its your water. Look into sending your water in to get tested, and a NSF Certified, under sink RO filtration system for your drinking water. They're expensive, but we're not talking about filtering out water for taste. There's heavy metals in a lot of the water here.
A lot of the Midwest/flyover area of the United States has very substantial water issues and the utility companies are extremely underbudget. As long as they can technically get within FDA margins they won't go one part per million further on purpose
You're expected to take care of yourself beyond that
Amazing. I love this place even more now.
could you please explain what PEX
PCI EXpress
@@formbi thanks
that my friend is not factory , that GPU was Water cooled or they used liquid nitrogen on it and before using doing that they paint on either Nail polish or Liquid plastic dip so that moisture doesn't get into all the nicks and crannies and cause a short or fry the GPU from moisture !!! they do it with motherboards too when Overclocking and trying too set records and such on benchmark runs !!! ironically if the customer didn't know a GPU miner probably did it then sold him the card ..
So you met my mortal enemy, the Underfill. I do microsoldering on mobile devices and ALL of them have underfill under the CPU, if you aren't super carefull and heat up the board a little too much you have to reball the cpu because the balls short out when the underfill expands under heat.
that chip did not shift. it was in the wrong place since the begining
a 3d printer could work as well as a cnc machine if you dont necessarily need to use metal
it is underfill, whis is used for decades, became more common with lead-free solder.
Asus definitely had some poorly made 5000 series cards, some of the TUF branded models I believe. They released a revision for one or two of those models at one point. I think it was the memory cooling which was considered very inadequate on the original versions. Not sure what's going on with all the crap on this card, doesn't seem likely to be explained only by poor memory cooling.
Yeah I'll never skimp on a good set of tweezers, You can't get the quality from the higher end ones, Don't forget you get what you pay for.. And with cheap tweezers you're going to be dropping chips caps and resistors constantly because of alignment issues and the tweezers not functioning properly..
i have 10+ AMD GPUS, 4x 5000 (5600XT ITX / 5700 and 2x 5700XT's ) 3-5x RX 6800/ 2-3x 6800XT and 1 6900XT and 7800 XT + 7900 GRE & 7900XT 20GB.
not one gpu has had not one issue! hmmm 🤔🤔 maybe people with these bad cards broke it cuz they cant take care of their expensive components🤣🤣
only one . my first one bought in 2021 for $1102usd on ebay . but sapphire replaced it under RMA and got a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6800XT 16GB for replacement .. hehe and still got teh old gpu back (by accident lol) so i said *screw it ... i replaced all GDDR6 and walla. works fine now lol
The anti amd bias is showing again , thats user related damage , plasticote or some other garbage, card belongs to an over clocker
wouldn't blame AMD instead ASSus. the new Gigabyte
When you pre-heat the board for the different operations, what temperature do you heat the board to? What temp on the hot air gun? Thanks
I love the red v green debate / quarrel - makes for some fun reading - thanks for a great video again and again
My whole Gaming PC is a Gigabyte build the only component I removed was the graphics card after having two Gigabyte cards in my build they are pure dirt .
I agree w/you; those of use with limited means, find creative ways to fix things/problem solve vs the sect that just run out and buy.
You love to hate right? Amd cards get you out your confort zone.
watching from Argentina, amazing channel and amazing content!
They are getting tons of RMAs so instead of redesigning and fixing the actual issues, aka board flex, they're trying bonds and underfills to hold components in place long enough to make it through the warranty period.
Like NWR said in an earlier video, the best possible thing to do for your product life extension is to mount it vertically.
You have a blessed day to my friend and carry on winning these fights ✊🏻
i think someone in the assembly line left or been dropped some piece of duct tape or something and that over time due to heat melted and wrapped arround the components inside gpu,or some third party but it looks been there for a looong time
I wonder if that card was water cooled... Could that goop be some dried up water based coolant that leaked all over?
i think it was a mining card and the user bought it second hand and this residue from water cooling
On the chip with the mask two other ball spots have trailing out of area marks. I have seen them before to no effect but seems a ball joining path if chip is moved up or down not side to side. I mean the tiny movement to return with surface tension back home. Probably not the same with memory compared to ic's. Larger balls?
BTW, Hakko CHP 5B-SA are good fine tip tweezers, not sure if they are small enough for handling balls (lol) but I use them to place 0402 and 0201 components
I like the 7A-SA, awesome tweezees. 🤣
This reminds me of the MRE (meal ready to eat) that we have in the Military. I'm surprised that you can make it indoors, the heater pack produces a high concentration of hydrogen gas and can be dangerous in small areas. love your videos btw.
Then in the small area you put the Tabasco sauce in the heater and create ......
3:43 "'Cuz I am kind of a paranoid about balls" I grabbed a cup of coffee and came back to this line and started thinking "WTH did I miss?!?"
funny.... iv never had and AMD card fail but one , a sapphire Radeon RX (AMD Reference) 6800XT 16GB (but during the shortage) and was probably heavily used for Ethereum Mining( 2021)( GDDR6 Died ) replaced all teh ram and GPU worked fine.. hmmmm
23:08 good point. spitting out wisdom there.
"Let's get ready for rrrrrreball!" :-)
If you’re going to buy an AMD card, stick to the AMD exclusive makers. There seems to be more problem with the multi brand makers.
That compound is ATC compound it is desighned to swell under heat amd tear pads off chips and used to deter technicians from fixing their cards in order to sell more cards
Its for preventing the rip pad on weak spot near the pcie slot that tend to bending because masssive heatsink
Ultrasonic cleaner didn't help? (This graphics card is used for extreme overclocking.)
I wouldn't necessarily say its amd cards in general, i would blame the board partners like asus and gigabyte. saphire, powercolor, and even the new xfx models seem like good options. I'll be going with amd once my current gpu dies on me, granted after i send it to you 1st to get it fixed and hopefully get some more milage out of it 😅.
liquid cooling failure residue? very interesting crap to find under electronic parts, i know some smd elements are glued with red glue if you flow solder big pcb on both sides but that stuff is nasty
great work there im using some of your ideas at my work PS was hoping evga go amd side :D
I think the PC was working in a garage where a car was being painted red.
Cheers m8.
bought a 5700xt cracked in the first week playing video games not even benchmarking
I think that card was in a fire and the fan holder melted + etc...., and cleaned it up a bit and installed a replacement;
The motherboard looks terrible, she needs a good sonic cleanser
Maybe you have a headache due to a leak in your solder extraction system, test it with a smoke system dudes
You have a milling machine!
Noice
If you are looking for a reflow oven there is an interesting device that helps you convert a kitchen oven to reflow oven. The name of it is Reflow Master Pro. Of course there many arduino or other MC based DIY projects.
Man, you should always avoid heating those caps too high. A reflow oven is not something I would use to repair a video card.
@@Dandan-tg6tj I do not It was just a recommendation because Tony mentioned it in the video.
Glad that we are "Internet People" finally :)
Love videos there great for me as i repair tvs and wanted to learn more these video help me learn about my gpu want to know how they work.
My guess... someone spilled something on this card. Pulled apart countless GPUs and I've never seen anything like that that couldn't be explained by something having been spilled on it by the user. Neither the black or the red substances are anything I've even seen on a card from the factory. This is on the use end.
Some one call 911 too much blood over here
Awesome video
Lol .. that one memory chip was crucked all along .. like hilary clinton
Memory on compound is bad idea)
Soon as you did the green fix... I hit like. Good eye.
AMD cards poop blood, that’s my new favorite response whenever somebody asks me if AMD cards are any good
that looks like resin/silicone; to protect from touching and shorting. this one seems little more abused :D
Report the owner for GPU abuse. Poor thing is bleeding and shitting everywhere
It's not AMD, it's Asus. Their quality has degraded over the comming years so far such that JaysTwoCents had to cancel them, and literally ban them from all the future sponsorship he would get from them. It's just how Asus is now.
Bro names very other repair channel he watched but north ridge come on u guys don’t actually have beef right now
last AMD card died literally the day after warrenty.
XFX 👋
reverse engineering..we used to make parts not to break but now they're making things that's gonna break itself that,your only option will be to buy another one which will have the same break patterns..pure economy making dineros by itself,but not for consumers. its for spenders..
I wonder if it would be cost effective to brush-plate gold onto those worn out connector fingers of the adapter. Was copper showing or was it only worn down to the nickle plating?
How can you brush gold plating to those pins?
It's easier to replace it at this point
Paranoid about balls? Lol aren't we all?
In your opinion, which card is more reliable?
amd is more like those modern car engines these daysif you try to do 50% of any kind of rally its gonna break quickif you not crossing 2000 rpm treshold they gonna be just fine
Oh how I can't wait for battle mage Intel and for you to have a pissy fit on those 😂. For sure AMD has bad memory chips and coolers for a long time but better to mod and get aftermarket solutions then have to take it to your wallet like Nvidia. Or have your power cable go boom boom 💥
I said a few month ago on one of your videos.. that I was surprised they didn't do something that would make it not possible to repair.
I didnt not think AMD would be the ones thought.. I expected Nvidia to do it..
This isn't AMD or ASUS that applied this coating. It was a user
Republic of GAYMERS
I hate this Brand, it's so stewpid.
Who tf wants to have "GAYMER" written on his Hardware?
ROG is still awesome. Just way, way over priced now.
@@aliensounddigital8729 I just hate the Brand NAME. I don't want GAYMER written on my GPU. I don't identify as a GAYMER. Even though I love great hardware, for example I bought Lenovo Legion 7 gaming Notebooks, but they don't look like frikkin Gamer Laptops, they have great design, elegant and not too obnoxious, even with the RGB lights on full rotation a Legion laptop still looks classy.
As for the Hardware, I think the best GPUs are Sapphire NITRO+ for AMD, don't know if they also make Nvidia GPUs. The best were EVGA, but they are gone, because NVIDIA sucks and hates their Board Partners do cool stuff, so they limited them so much that it got basically pointless...
i think someone try to fix coil whining
hey man, ive been wondering, that aluminum-ish block where you put the memorys is custom made?
yes
Have you had any sapphire cards with these same issues
why not use paste instead of balls? in most of rossmann's videos that i've seen they always use paste to solder ssd nands and ram on the macbooks they fix. just curious if there are any significant differences between balls and paste in regards to GPUs.
I think he answered that question during the "It's Ballzday Again" video?
Wow nice content brother 👍
This card looks sketchy the blood is everywhere even where you do not expect it, defiantly user error.
Normally I like 🙂all the videos here, but the whole AMD is bad thing or I don't like AMD talk, it annoys me a little, it all has nothing to do with AMD per se...especially if it's an AIB card. Then it's an ASUS problem😌 AMD only makes the graphics processor, the rest is up to the card manufacturer😉
Too much coffein makes me get bad headache
I seen this black glue ?? also on some soldered RAM chips in a new laptops, make it impossible to just reflow this chip
wont a electronic cleaner remove that stubborn glue?
@@spyplane3979 no,it can only be removed by heat and scabbing after removal of the chip It doesn't dissolves in any organic liquid
Pls stop blaming AMD cards. I mean this kind of hate speech damage your reputation and some of us will not send you cards in for repair. And AMD cards are not that bad bc in all repair videos i saw from different channels 95% were nVidia cards. So what i have noticed about AMD cards is they broke less, cost less, using less power and have the old power connector that wont fail.
AMD cards sell way less than Nvidia. Obviously they will go less for warranty. I thought everyone who is into gaming knew that. Steam's PC spec survey shows this clearly..the problem with card in this video isn't about Asus or Amd..prolly the user did extreme LN2 cooling but didn't clean off the liquid LN2 tape or something leading to residue
Amd sucks amd sucks amd sucks, what you mad at me 😂?
What flux do you use when you are reballing memory? Thanks
I got a question. I have a evga 3070ti its brand new basically never touched/stock. Im pissed about paying $980 for it during coin bs. I didnt pay attention to amd cards so I was kinda out of the loop. I overpaid for basically 8gb of ram. Can you mod a card to 16gb and what would you charge for it ? God bless you and your work I enjoy watching.
its guarded in drivers, its posible to do (in theori, and has been done on some youtube channels) but you will get a ton of issues running useable drivers proberly. Also doubtfully worth it with current prices on new cards. Sad to say but you got punished for not understanding supply and demand. Plenty of indicators upto the RTX3k/RX6k launch that it would be cards worth getting on day1.
At that time AMD cards were highly overpriced too. You wouldn't get an AMD at good price either, unless you lived only in US.
Did Greg S from YT channel send you a card to look at
No. He never responded back.
What is that stuff for? Why would they be putting it on/in the gpu?
I have an older AMD Radeon R9 290X which also seems to live: It refuses to crash under heavy load but only when cooling down afterwards! Any idea what might be the cause for this strange behaviour?
Rebal
Tony, how a guy living in Russia fixing GPU can consider you as a direct competitor ? And if they were not willing to share their knowledge how did you learn from them ? I mean, these statements are kind confusing to me that I also endlessly watch repair videos trying to get more knowledge in fault finding methods. I mean, for me it looks like they do share some knowledge maybe not everything but they do otherwise people who are completely noobs in electronics wouldn't be able to do repairs. Of course the most important is to have the spirit in you, to read about electronics to practice and to learn from your faults.
its all about the balls
Blame AMD or Asus? Personally, i don't recommend Asus TUF products.
Thank you for another hard work video 👍
I've read somewhere online that AMD gpu manufacturers did use glue on memory chips to make them more secure....whatever that means.
I found online, owner of 6900xt finding it on his gpu - asking about it, another owner of 6950xt made by XFX... I think GamersNexus did a teardown of Sapphire 6950xt finding the same "hotglue" being used.
Why did they decide to use glue? I really don't know, many are saying to prolong gpu life, but idk about that - LOL there's a broken gpu in your hands. So would it break earlier? 😂
Kinda bad manufacturing solution when it comes to repairing I hope they don't do it any more 🤷♂️
I haven't seen the glue in person so I can't say anything from personal experience, just from what I saw online ...
I have a 6950xt Xfx and have taken it apart there was no glue what so ever I think you’re comment is baseless and you have 0 clue what ur talking about
Also AMD does not make the graphics cards other than the reference so fault will fall within the manufacturer