I love being a singer in a prog metal band. I get paid the same as everyone else and I get to go backstage and chill half the time. It's like cheating.
I think I would do the same, I used to sing, and during non singing moments, one feels awkward just standing in front of everyone. Some vocalists, use that time to headbang, and or look engaged in the music. But one can only act that way for so long, in prog where there will be 6 minutes of instrumentals mid song.. or you have songs of twenty minutes that are entirely instrumental... better to just dissappear, lmao.
@@zubrhero5270 Looked it up, the album in question is Altered States Of America, and it's indeed shorter than four Dream Theater songs (Illumination Theory, A Change Of Seasons, Octavarium, Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence), two Edge Of Sanity songs (Crimson and Crimson II), and Mirror Reaper by Bell Witch
Their latest album featured some cool vocalists! But they also released an instrumental alongside it if that's not your cup of tea. Highly recommend checking it out.
@@LavinGuitars as far as I know they are an instrumental band and I really like them, I find them great for studying. I have listened to a few songs with vocalists and I really like them. Thanks for the advice!
its hard being a prog singer, you can't even headbang while the rest of the band is doing their solo stuff, cause they decided to let the time signature be freshly determined by Googles random number generator every other bar lmao
maybe singers should learn the songs time sig without the band having to switch to 4/4 sections for them to sing (this sounds salty because it is, had a shit lead singer that was killing creativity for a while, kid couldnt comprehend anything but 4/4)
that's probably my no.1 reason (and maybe the only one) for not enjoying dream theater. Which is very unfortunate, as i think they have some of the best guitar solos ever.
This is the most satisfying comment so far. Because the video is Dream Theater in a nutshell, but without the odd signatures. (7/8 is so grunge. And 6/8... Common man. You can do better)
Since Prog Metal is quite intricate, you should not call it a Nutshell. You should call it a PROG METAL PERFECTLY ENCLOSED IN A HOLLOW SPHERE WHOSE SURFACE AREA IS 4πR². EDIT: Did a small correction to the grammar. Earlier it was PROG METAL IN A PERFECTLY ENCLOSED and now it's PROG METAL PERFECTLY ENCLOSED IN A… . Thanks to Michael Bauer for pointing that out. Thanks Mate!!
Pff... true gigantic prog brains would know that such a statement would immediately out you as a plebian. Why mention the surface area as though that's not already implied directly by specifying the shape to be a perfect sphere? Given a sphere's equal curvature in every region via identical derivatives along all (linear) coordinate-axes no matter the orientation, an area of exactly 4πR² is strictly implied (for a fully-connected 3-space with a standard euclidean norm and its induced metric). ...Furthermore, it's not the hollow sphere that is enclosed - henceforth that statement doesn't even make grammatical sense. (Just my contribution to a little game of trying to out-snob each other in celebration of the spirit of prog 😄)
I know the feeling. I was in a prog-metal band once and we managed to fit three whole vocalist changes and two keyboardist changes and even an indefinite hiatus into one instrumental section.
I was thinking naaaah this solo is way too vanilla for prog, then 0:35 hit and I was pissing myself 😄 so right. Can't imagine how much effort went into a 72 second scetch, good job man 👍
Your way too talented Bradders, be it musically or comedically,your a maestro. I mean your playing on this vid was just fucking otherworldly but I was too busy laughing the first time round to notice. Your definitely one of a kind , we love you Bradders your the dogs Nadders
I know they arnt prog but this reminds me of when I went to see Dragonforce live back in the Fire and flames days and the singer would just walk off stage for a bit, start talking to the crowd and spraying water all over during the super long solos lol.
haha yes, sometimes it seems like the balance between vocals and other instruments is rather off, but not every prog band is like this. Some of my favorites worth mentioning are Threshold and Vanden Plas
Man this is perfect! I hate when I’m really vibing with a prog song and it takes you to this really great place then gets derailed by all this show offy stuff, Yes and Dream Theater are prime examples. They’re both full of amazing high level musicians who obviously know music theory out the yin/yang, and can construct really unique, beautiful songs but then suddenly in the middle of a song it will sound like (at least to my small brain) they’re playing a completely different song! And these new sections can go on forever...
I would say Dream Theater is much more egregious with this than Yes (though I enjoy both). Yes, at least on those first five alblums, were very good at keeping a song cohesive while taking it to unexpected places. Even if a song took a 180, it felt like it definitely belonged in the broader context, at least to my ears. Only from Tales of Topographic Oceans did the wankiness and meandering start to show itself (only my opinion). Otherwise, if you just don't like any extended passages that deviate from the core structure of the song, I'm sorry to say, but that subversion of expectations is like the main appeal of progressive music
Well to be fair, prog rock, even from the 70's, has been mainly mostly appreciated by musicians. Musicians musicians if you will. Singers in a prog rock bands have always been an afterthought or actually played an instrument anyway, because they knew it to be so. But it DOES depend on what an individual considers to be prog rock I suppose, we all have our own thoughts on this. Take Focus for instance, or Yes or Tangerine Dream, better still more recent Ozric Tentacles, they are not same ilk as today's prog rockers e.g. Dream Theater.
I suppose if you were doing a cover of Take a Pebble by ELP you'd have to wait a full 8-9 minutes between verses. Having said that its probably an all time great song in the progressive rock sphere.
Well, 4/4 is only a sin if there isn’t a triplet, quintuplet, or sextuplet groove. Other rules: 1. leave the key signature ambiguous. Chromatics and tonality changes are required. 2. 8 string guitars. The bass player’s just for show to satisfy elitists. 3. Obligatory sad piano part.
Well, James LaBrie has been putting a lot of stress on his own voice and sounds awful live so it's understandable that the very long instrumental sections are there for him to drink lots of water and go to the bathroom before he has to sing again.
@@jojopower123 in my opinion music has been so influential over the course of time for example look what Woodstock did for our country regarding the music to me it is important to be able to be able to think and process what you're listening to and let the music set your mind to where it should be instead of just listening to noise which is fine sometimes but there are many times especially nowadays in the world where people need to just sit down relax and think about where their lives are going and how they can make a difference for the better for themselves and others
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I love being a singer in a prog metal band. I get paid the same as everyone else and I get to go backstage and chill half the time. It's like cheating.
But they have to sing their throats out, so it's balanced
Vocalists are the ones who end up sounding like a paper mache Gollum ventriloquist by the end of the night, so it evens out.
Exactly my thinking!
@@SupahflyJazzguy Well that about sums me up at 40, so you're right about that!!
"I'm just a singer in a prog & roll band!"
Every DT concert where James LaBrie disappears in the middle and comes back at least half an hour later and you'd already forgotten he exists.
or he runs out during the solo with a tambourine
I think I would do the same, I used to sing, and during non singing moments, one feels awkward just standing in front of everyone. Some vocalists, use that time to headbang, and or look engaged in the music. But one can only act that way for so long, in prog where there will be 6 minutes of instrumentals mid song.. or you have songs of twenty minutes that are entirely instrumental... better to just dissappear, lmao.
lol that's just liquid tension experiment
And then he just walks around and sings like a god
James Le Cheese
When the song is longer than the average pop punk album
*grindcore album
@@igornaimoli7321 Fucking hell, I'm pretty sure Agoraphobic Nosebleed have a 100-track record that's shorter!
@@igornaimoli7321 *Grindcore act full discography.
@@zubrhero5270 Looked it up, the album in question is Altered States Of America, and it's indeed shorter than four Dream Theater songs (Illumination Theory, A Change Of Seasons, Octavarium, Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence), two Edge Of Sanity songs (Crimson and Crimson II), and Mirror Reaper by Bell Witch
Unironically, I listened to Scale the Summit and remembered that they don’t have a singer after about half an hour lol
Happy shreds! I like those guys :3 Altlas Novus 🤘🏼
Their latest album featured some cool vocalists! But they also released an instrumental alongside it if that's not your cup of tea. Highly recommend checking it out.
@@LavinGuitars as far as I know they are an instrumental band and I really like them, I find them great for studying. I have listened to a few songs with vocalists and I really like them. Thanks for the advice!
Wait, really unironiclee? Are you sure it was uneyeron?
One of my favorite bands of all time, huge inspiration to me. Great music to listen to while doing art
That's why James Labrie has enough time to make so many Cameos
@@BradleyHallGuitar however he plays a very very crucial role in dt....PLAYING THE FREAKING TAMBOURINE 😂
here, have my thumb up.
Big chuuungus
@@Yenneffer sussy in the funny house
@@Yenneffer omg yes lol 😂😂...even the remake was dopesht
its hard being a prog singer, you can't even headbang while the rest of the band is doing their solo stuff, cause they decided to let the time signature be freshly determined by Googles random number generator every other bar lmao
"Easy" fix for that is to not only be the singer but also play an instrument at the same time.
Headbang in 4/4, works 98 percent of the time ;)
@@E6add9 Okay, Jens Kidman...
maybe singers should learn the songs time sig without the band having to switch to 4/4 sections for them to sing
(this sounds salty because it is, had a shit lead singer that was killing creativity for a while, kid couldnt comprehend anything but 4/4)
that's probably my no.1 reason (and maybe the only one) for not enjoying dream theater. Which is very unfortunate, as i think they have some of the best guitar solos ever.
You forgot the part that goes from 3/4 to 163/72
:D
Going from 4/4 to 666/69
This is the most satisfying comment so far. Because the video is Dream Theater in a nutshell, but without the odd signatures. (7/8 is so grunge. And 6/8... Common man. You can do better)
@@yorickgerms7977there were some 5/8 bars and even a polyrhythm when the riff continued to play in 5/8 while other instruments changed the time to 6/8
@@Say_Qwerty_Drums You have a great drumming style. And good covers on your channel. Congrats. Also you're right 😊 I see that now🤗
Since Prog Metal is quite intricate, you should not call it a Nutshell.
You should call it a PROG METAL PERFECTLY ENCLOSED IN A HOLLOW SPHERE WHOSE SURFACE AREA IS 4πR².
EDIT: Did a small correction to the grammar. Earlier it was PROG METAL IN A PERFECTLY ENCLOSED and now it's PROG METAL PERFECTLY ENCLOSED IN A… .
Thanks to Michael Bauer for pointing that out. Thanks Mate!!
@@BradleyHallGuitar Wait did you dab in 2022?
Or prog metal in a fractal sounds fitting, too. Great work Bradley!
@@bom8255 So from what I gather, this ISN'T what kids these days refer to as "based" and "red-pilled"? For shame.
That’s mathcore, but ok.
Pff... true gigantic prog brains would know that such a statement would immediately out you as a plebian. Why mention the surface area as though that's not already implied directly by specifying the shape to be a perfect sphere? Given a sphere's equal curvature in every region via identical derivatives along all (linear) coordinate-axes no matter the orientation, an area of exactly 4πR² is strictly implied (for a fully-connected 3-space with a standard euclidean norm and its induced metric). ...Furthermore, it's not the hollow sphere that is enclosed - henceforth that statement doesn't even make grammatical sense.
(Just my contribution to a little game of trying to out-snob each other in celebration of the spirit of prog 😄)
Damn, wish there was a band that makes this kind of music
listen to haken's album visions :)
@@Thatguy-tm8xh I think he was being sarcastic
@@zynosgd9982 i think he was sarcastic too
@@PostalFella. damn there's a lot of sarcasm in these comments
@@giulianomarino2864 stop being so sarcastic
This is unironically how I want my music to be.
It was honestly fantastic. Felt like a journey.
i wish to make a weird mixture of collins era genesis and the residents
Yup, the unnecessary metric modulation at the end....that's us 🤣🤣🤣
Heck yes. 😂
@Dragon Ball fans can't read Prog is clearly not your cup of tea, smart of you to stick to simpler stuff 👍🏼
@@AnzaShadow He can't read your comment because he himself is a dragonball fan... And also he's a dumbass!
@Dragon Ball fans can't read awful song writers?! Lmfao move on to butt rock big boy
@Dragon Ball fans can't read ok but who asked, if there are so much people that like them is cause they've got something interesting
I know the feeling. I was in a prog-metal band once and we managed to fit three whole vocalist changes and two keyboardist changes and even an indefinite hiatus into one instrumental section.
😭😂😭
How was the bass dude?
Did he just stand there, making times, and going nowhere?
@@fajaradi1223 We don't know. He hasn't spoken in years.
@@lauscho haha that was the funniest thing I've read 😂
@@jasonnewstead3174 High praise from one of the best bassists on the planet ;)
The first time I made a friend of mine listen to Dream Theater, after 10 minutes he asked: is he ever going to sing?
That's why they called the final part of A mind beside itself THE SILENT MAN.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Did the same to my brother. Told him to pay close attention to the lyrics of Stream of Consciousness
@@elrumstoke Excellent, did that with a different song though ... the ytse jam :D
10 minutes? Dude couldn't even make it through the opening instrumentals
The funniest thing is when James Labries takes out the tamberine when he gets bored during the instrumental section.
So true 😂😂😂
Yes, Change of Seasons it was like wtf get out of there man.
just when you think you're about to settle into a nice 4/4 groove, the 46 minute digeridoo solo kicks in
🤣😂😅😉👍
At least Tom in BTBAM plays the keys/ synth, so he's not totally bored hahahahaha, this is on point though.
I've always wondered what James LaBrie does offstage during DT's extended instrumental sections.
I love DT, BTW. And prog.
He probably counts his money lol
he drinks a lot on stage, so perhaps he has to drain for a long time
long naps
Judging by his face now I would say botox.
probably takes a nap.. it's a hard tour schedule..
Petition for this to be a full song!
concept album maybe.
Just listen to DT
I second the motion.
so this is what being james labrie feels like...
0:01 Axl Rose Vocals High Note
0:05 Slash Solo
0:35 Turn Into Dream Theater
0:56 Dragonforce Solo
1:07 SUS
So Timo Tolkki Stratovarius? Hahahaha
Yeah, but unironically the whole video was inspired by DT.
Nah 0:01 was Ian Gillan
That part when the keyboard solo started was so sick!
Every prog synth player has a million and one synths. They all use the same tone for leads though.
If you add some keyboard to rust in peace you could turn the whole thing into a prog metal album
Thank God there is no keyboard guy in Megadeth 😅
Now I kinda want to hear a cover of a Rust In Peace song with keyboards added.
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@@foolishstrudel2689 Listen to the Rust in peace demos. Chris Poland's guitar sounds like a keyboard
I was thinking naaaah this solo is way too vanilla for prog, then 0:35 hit and I was pissing myself 😄 so right. Can't imagine how much effort went into a 72 second scetch, good job man 👍
To be fair, this is more "Dream Theater in a nutshell." There are a lot of prog metal bands that forgo the obligatory wheedling!
Love how 'wheedling' is a word now^^
Oceans of Slumber
I love prog metal and this was fucking hilarious 😂
This cracked me up. Also absolutely great bit of writing and playing!
Your way too talented Bradders, be it musically or comedically,your a maestro.
I mean your playing on this vid was just fucking otherworldly but I was too busy laughing the first time round to notice. Your definitely one of a kind , we love you Bradders your the dogs Nadders
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This was hilarious! Also, absolutely loved the solos dude. Especially the ones at the end 🎸
I love the first guitar solo ! melodic, emotional and technical at the same time
Being impressed and entertained at the same time is really amazing
Freaking brilliant, as usual. You have an amazing ability to catch the details which are the essence of an era, band or genre.
"I feel bad for Russell Allen and James LaBrie, but I know this feeling will progressively banish..."
- Jason McMaster.
I know they arnt prog but this reminds me of when I went to see Dragonforce live back in the Fire and flames days and the singer would just walk off stage for a bit, start talking to the crowd and spraying water all over during the super long solos lol.
Meanwhile the drummer died of exhaustion.
We need a full version of this
Don't worry. In prog metal, the fans/the audiences can hear the lyrics through telepathy.
That's what they mean when they say "music is a language"!!! Broooo
The very last synth part🤘🤣
Nailed the Russell Allen head bob vibrato
This is gold ! Keep it up Breadley. Very well done !
THAT WAS HILARIOUS!!! I LITERALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD!!!!
This is absolutely hilarious. You should do one of 70's prog (the best prog) .
YES! (pun intended) lol
this is fucking insanely brilliant
YES FINALLY THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL AS THE SINGER WHEN MY BAND DOES THESE TYPES OF SONGS. Thank you this was very relatable
haha yes, sometimes it seems like the balance between vocals and other instruments is rather off, but not every prog band is like this. Some of my favorites worth mentioning are Threshold and Vanden Plas
Those vocal lines... essence of Jeff Lynne 🤟❤
The first bit is definitely James LaBrie 😂😂😂
Even as just a shits and giggles piece, I would listen the hell out of a full length version of this
Your videos always make me crack a smile, even when I'm feeling like Bantha poodoo. I'm gonna practice my sweeping technique today, just for you. 👍
Great Bradley
Very good video! Spot on!
🤣 nailed it fellas!
Mas alla del meme, la rompieron con la guitarra y las teclas, que capos!
Si aunque lo hagan desde el humor son muy buenos
What else can I say, I just love it, that's all. Pretentious, yeah, sometimes a bit, sometimes a lot. But is amazing.
Joel absolutely shredding it! Legend!
0:05 almost sounded like he was going to play under a glass moon
Man this is perfect! I hate when I’m really vibing with a prog song and it takes you to this really great place then gets derailed by all this show offy stuff, Yes and Dream Theater are prime examples.
They’re both full of amazing high level musicians who obviously know music theory out the yin/yang, and can construct really unique, beautiful songs but then suddenly in the middle of a song it will sound like (at least to my small brain) they’re playing a completely different song! And these new sections can go on forever...
I would say Dream Theater is much more egregious with this than Yes (though I enjoy both). Yes, at least on those first five alblums, were very good at keeping a song cohesive while taking it to unexpected places. Even if a song took a 180, it felt like it definitely belonged in the broader context, at least to my ears. Only from Tales of Topographic Oceans did the wankiness and meandering start to show itself (only my opinion).
Otherwise, if you just don't like any extended passages that deviate from the core structure of the song, I'm sorry to say, but that subversion of expectations is like the main appeal of progressive music
0:35 sounds exactly like hakens visions album lol
Amazing shredding bro
The frustrated singer, LMAO!!!! Perfect example of this style!
Well to be fair, prog rock, even from the 70's, has been mainly mostly appreciated by musicians.
Musicians musicians if you will.
Singers in a prog rock bands have always been an afterthought or actually played an instrument anyway, because they knew it to be so.
But it DOES depend on what an individual considers to be prog rock I suppose, we all have our own thoughts on this.
Take Focus for instance, or Yes or Tangerine Dream, better still more recent Ozric Tentacles, they are not same ilk as today's prog rockers e.g. Dream Theater.
I actually think it's a pretty cool song :D I would listen to more of this!
That sweep though
This is comedic gold 😂
Ahaha... That's why it's hard to find a good singer for a prog band! xD \m/
I suppose if you were doing a cover of Take a Pebble by ELP you'd have to wait a full 8-9 minutes between verses. Having said that its probably an all time great song in the progressive rock sphere.
Damn I wanted the rest of the keyboard solo at the end
That was a fire instrumental section.
Rules of prog:
1 - 4/4 is a sin
2 - the vocalist is only a part time member
3 - structure is optional
Help me out here what are the others?
no song under 5 minutes unless it is a break track
@@MonkeyFella And I know you! Haven't seen you a lot but you're one of my favourite commenters on our stuff
@@DireThorns lol thanks I'm watching the new video rn actually
Well, 4/4 is only a sin if there isn’t a triplet, quintuplet, or sextuplet groove.
Other rules:
1. leave the key signature ambiguous. Chromatics and tonality changes are required.
2. 8 string guitars. The bass player’s just for show to satisfy elitists.
3. Obligatory sad piano part.
@@MonkeyFella Oh awesome! Thanks for viewing
Better than anything Dream Theater have released in the last thirteen years.
James Labrie and Russel Allen can take breakfast while octaviarium and the odissey are on stage.
The edited part where you drink the beer got me 💀 xD
Well, James LaBrie has been putting a lot of stress on his own voice and sounds awful live so it's understandable that the very long instrumental sections are there for him to drink lots of water and go to the bathroom before he has to sing again.
It's crazy as a vocalist myself I love Prog metal and rock so much. But I also have a high 130s IQ so I guess there's that
of course, all prog listeners are smart
@@jojopower123 in my opinion music has been so influential over the course of time for example look what Woodstock did for our country regarding the music to me it is important to be able to be able to think and process what you're listening to and let the music set your mind to where it should be instead of just listening to noise which is fine sometimes but there are many times especially nowadays in the world where people need to just sit down relax and think about where their lives are going and how they can make a difference for the better for themselves and others
You made me lose it at the end 😂
The flight of the bumblebee at the end was the icing on the cake
first
Thatnis exactly how i hear it..sitting waiting for some singing to happen! You are a funny lad !
My man straight up went for a walk lmao.
That was fucking absolutely DOPE!! Those changes would make JP proud. Everything about this is ridiculous, it's scary how good your guitar skills are.
The key solo at the end is pretty awesome
Looks on wrist, there is no watch on it, thinks to himself "Yeah, it's about time". Pure comedy gold.
I feel so attacked right now. :P
*cries in 30 minute song with stupendous amount of time signature changes*
Wow this hits home
A la fois drôle et super à écouter merci mec
POV: you’re the lead singer of King Crimson
Loving Jared dines keyboard solo
That's why the singers always have solo careers. They work on their solo albums during the instrumental sections.
That solo was so sick tho haha
Goddamn those solos were fucking TASTY, and that synth timbre is just fucking amazing.
Prog is probably the only genre of metal where you can literally play whatever the hell you want and it would still sound good.
that solo is sick af
I love Haken, you even got the Ross Jennings haircut
Love it! 👍
I live down the road...awesome as always
The 'eff this....' mic stand toss at the end. The cherry on top
Waaaaaaaahhhh.....
nice guitars and killer synth !!!!
Cheeers!
One of your best videos
Real banger song! I think there should be a solo in the beginning
That's pretty funny...love the prog!