I Deleted All Adobe Software - DOJ Sues Adobe
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- I created the Life After Adobe Cutting The Cord Series years ago, and now it's more relevant than ever! I deleted every single Adobe piece of software and never looked back.
A federal lawsuit against Adobe, Inc. levied by the DOJ (Department Of Justice) for screwing us for decades has finally been filed!
*** If you are cutting the cord. Grab one of my LIFE AFTER ADOBE shirts to represent freedom of choice and disdain for corporate greed! jcristina.com/...
Europe has fought Adobe's monopolistic requests in the past on multiple fronts. One was the recent request to purchase Figma for $20 billion and Adobe was told to go pound sand.
Now.... FINALLY... the US has stepped up to the plate.
Are you sick of paying Adobe every month and never owning anything?
Will you allow Adobe to use your private creative works to train its AI?
Would you consider using an Adobe alternative?
Would you like me to create a follow-up to the Life After Adobe Series?
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I created the Life After Adobe Cutting The Cord Series years ago, and now it's more relevant than ever! I deleted every single Adobe piece of software and never looked back.
A federal lawsuit against Adobe, Inc. levied by the DOJ (Department Of Justice) for screwing us for decades has finally been filed!
*** If you are cutting the cord. Grab one of my LIFE AFTER ADOBE shirts to represent freedom of choice and disdain for corporate greed! jcristina.com/product/shirt-life-after-adobe
Europe has fought Adobe's monopolistic requests in the past on multiple fronts. One was the recent request to purchase Figma for $20 billion and Adobe was told to go pound sand.
Now.... FINALLY... the US has stepped up to the plate.
Are you sick of paying Adobe every month and never owning anything?
Will you allow Adobe to use your private creative works to train its AI?
Would you consider using an Adobe alternative?
Would you like me to create a follow-up to the Life After Adobe Series?
Subscribe, Share, and Like if so inclined! Also, after watching, consider commenting!
Can't wait to hear from you in the comments below this video!
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For such a smart sounding guy, you are factually wrong. You never own software. Try reading the agreement that you signed when you bought the software. It specifically says that you don’t own it. You agree to not reverse engineer it or decompile it. You buy a license to use it. Adobe is not a monopoly. Why are you lying to people?
You may have cut and removed, uninstalled and not ever LOOKED at any Adobe but Adobe work is EVERY WHERE. What do you think TP-Link art department or creative design marketing agencies, etc. packaging designers USE? Affinity?! Maybe in the future, I mean Photoshop started as a similar small duo of coders, so maybe. But it's not 1991 anymore.
MS and Apple, probably won't remove Adobe RGB... there are Adobe technologies behind everything, including the printers at FedEx office... government docs, education, medical... science, are we to banish those devices from our lives? Doctor, does that life saving machine, does it have... gulp... Adobe technologies?...
Google probably most likely uses Adobe tech to help you earn subs and monetary compensation from all the content, with the use of Adobe tech.
So, Like that*... because the Hate Adobe Mob says so, avoid Adobe at all costs? This is very reminiscent of the Occupy Movement and the unavoidable hypocrisy and mental thing involved in that.
Definitely interested in a follow up life after Adobe
@@jcristina I love Affinity. Tried Gimp, but I struggle. Not CMYK support and when I imported the Adobe CC colour profiles (fogra39), it did not work. I must still learn Inkscape. What opensource alternative is there for InDesign?
I appreciate your positive feedback on my videos.
Thank you for bringing to my attention the concerns you have with Adobe products. It has been two years since I have used their products, with the exception of Acrobat. I understand that many individuals would be interested in knowing what alternative options are available. Perhaps a comparative analysis of the various alternatives would be beneficial.
I wish you the best and hope you have a pleasant Sabbath.
Shalom
I'd be interested is a series about alternatives to Adobe.
The corporate bullying isn't just Adobe. Our automakers, Microsoft, smart T.V makers, etc. This virus of consumer bullying and molestation is so prolific throughout so many industries and needs to be purged.
I quit Microsoft Office suite a year ago and now use Libre Office. Works just like Microsoft for what I do and it's free.
@@braddavis5802 yes , libre and open office are good 👍
There is no such thing as “corporate bullying”. That is silly. You are believing that old BS that companies are out to get you. They are not. That is a lie created by people who couldn’t succeed in life and wanted someone to blame for their personal failures. You see enemies around every corner and under your bed like childish monsters. They are just as unreal. There is wonderful world out there. Let go of your persecution complex and experience it. The LLM is wonderful.
@@CarlSidor Interesting
@@CarlSidor right... so the term anti-consumer is totally made up by losers huh
Seven or so years ago, I cancelled my subscription after Adobe stopped supporting my operating system. I could not access the software I was paying for and they still had the gall to charge me a $50 cancelation fee. I only got it back after I threatened them with a consumer affairs complaint because Adobe, in not supporting my older operating system were terminating the service and not me.
Did the employer, client, company, corporation and or small medium sized business, etc. etc. NOT PAY YOU ENOUGH to pay that cancellation fee?
@@Modernaire It was hobby related and nothing to do with any employer. Anyway, why would I pay a cancellation fee for a service that was withdrawn by Adobe when it was them that terminated the service?
@@54Mizery I don’t know, but I do know that they are flexible and will work with you in certain areas. So who knows exactly what happened but either way did you learn something? Did you use a software for a project at least a little bit? Did your skills grow anyway? I’ll tell you, I didn’t like the price in the beginning too, especially when hyper inflation hit and through lean times, but I still kept it and it worked or something somewhere and I kept using it for my own personal projects and for clients along the way, and every time you use it, you software and learn tricks and so on as I alluded and I’m suggesting it’s investment yourself it’s just calibrating how you think about things.
@@Modernaire I learnt to ditch Adobe and learn new software. I don't realy want like to rent software anyway, I prefer to own it outright. I am glad I did because I don't miss Adobe software one bit.
@@54Mizery well, that’s good. I mean each person has a right to do what they want to do and use whatever they want to use.
When I was in college at a fancy art and design institution like I think semester possibly even a year I did everything by hand old school. What’s important? Is your ability draw, your artistic idea your solution and so on.
It’s like also another example I don’t really care what platform as far as computer operating system you use as long as you’re lightning fast and efficient with it.
As far as renting, I don’t think it’s renting nor should it be referred to that because that’s not the appropriate term to use that to this. Back in the day, we had to buy the software and came a serial number with that, but it was still license. You didn’t really own. It just bought a license of which then they would charge you an upgrade fee for the next version or, you have to pay it again. And if you did pay over money, what is that really say it says the economy is bad and people are hurting. But you have to work something extra and whatever you’re paying for right now it pays for itself. it’s sort of a investment.
Affinity Photo/Designer/Publisher, Blender, Audacity and DaVinci Resolve makes me 95% Adobe free!
Likewise.
And the best part, those apps are better! Davinci is light years ahead of premier.
Until you collaborate with another creative pro, agency, employer that requires, expects and is full on Adobe integration, including Adobe back end technologies. And, what's the 5%?! Acrobat? Bingo. PDFs baby!
Unfortunately, the Affinity company (Serif)has just been purchased by Canva! A company that first, promises not to take paid for software model to that of a Subscription model! We will see what happens?
Same here with Affinity. Haven’t heard of resolve. Hmmm….
I don't do subscription services, period. I intend to pay once rather than pay until I die. So when a subscription service is the only option, then the product is simply not for sale to me.
Same here. At least Capture One has a perpetual license still available.
Same, I'm still even on prepaid mobile phone since 2000.
I buy the phone outright and not have some silly plan.
I just don't use it enough to justify paying monthly, Only for family emergencies or if the car breaks down.
Me too. If there is no company offering purchase, then it is a business opportunity in my eyes
When you bought the box it was still A LICENSE TO USE... have we not moved on to cloud services in almost everything?
I do trade Adobe stock and I am able to earn more than I pay for the subs. That helps me feel better.
Cancelled a 1 year pre-paid photoshop card, 2 months into using it when this broke out. They have a HUGE popup that says "YOU WON'T GET A REFUND". LOL. I'm guessing I'll be getting one after the DOJ gets done with Adobe..
Im Guessing you wont, unless you ballot stuffed for Biden.
@DawgyinaField throw away Debit Account, that's a new one, useful I guess if you can create your own SUB accounts with random numbers that have a safe-link to the core account.
How much was owed to you?
Well the DOJ is as crooked as Adobe is.......
assuming $100 a month since 2011....that's $15,000, not withstanding their 'right' to use your work. Crazy
Facts.
And how much did you EARN? What was the PROFIT from that monthly investment, in yourself and assuring the software that provides you a LIVING, stays in business and progresses continuously? Maybe even... inspiring other graphics companies like oh I don't know, Photomator, Affinity, Topaz to start up...?
@@Modernaire Other companies exist because there's a market for affordable graphic programs that don't treat customers like shit because they are basically the only company doing it and have developed a system that grooms every education system to use their software.
What I make or do not make from their products is irrelevant.
I still use CS6. And it does everything I need. Meaning I haven't had to pay 15k to Adobe , or my clients.
I'd benefit more from upgrading my hardware...but I can't...because then CS6 won't work. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And it doesn't provide me a LIVING. I use it to supplement my LIVING. And I could pass on the cost to my clients....but why would I? I don't need the latest Adobe programs. Let me buy the latest for $1200 I'd down for it. But paying the extra $1400 for the small upgrades I don't need each time they come up with some new things? nope.
gimp is free Photoshop and inkscape is free Illustrator.
@@Modernaire As a hobbyist (i.e. potential user) there is no fiscal incentive for me to blow my money on Adobe's subscription service where I own nothing I create.
Stop shilling, it's like being a prostitute for some pimp who beats/controls you and sells your ass.
I worked for Adobe from September 1991 - February 1992. I was a contract worker NOT a permanant employee. I QUIT due to their abusive (mental and physical) policies. Contract workers were NOT subject to the same laws and protection a State affords permanent employees. I could go on, but I imagine its only gotten worse - given how they treat the cows they milk dry, then sell as burger patties - called CUSTOMERS.
That is so true, I was a contractor as well in London, UK. I hated working for the Americans, they were abusive alright!
What physical policies? I've never heard of such a thing! Imagine it's gotten worse, contractor work for hire has almost but replaced all lines of work that used to be permanent with company provided private insurance health coverages, etc, etc. thanks to "affordable" care acts and even HB1s have contributed to non permanent employees. Customers need jobs too... and they provide the software so you can get that job with a WORK FOR HIRE contract.
@@Modernaire “physical policies “ long hours no overtime pay. Forced to work thru lunch. No parking places. Common sense and bit of thought goa long way towards understanding things!!!
@@r.a.monigold9789 do you know what else goes along way? Paying your deuce sometimes when you start off, you might have to work a little longer. You might have to park a little further and walk all the way to your job in the hot sun through rain perhaps even snow. You work with some awful people, they might even have you work on some awful software or website service or use a social media you don’t like that professional. In those days early days of the Silicon Valley if somebody didn’t create a software, somebody else would there was a lot at stake. You either were in it to win it or not. You wait through your lunch you ate your lunch at your workstation fine. I still take late lunches. I don’t eat along with anybody else because I have worked today and I love to beat deadlines. I’m in the zone in other words. That can handle it. It’s OK you’re not meant for sometimes sometimes it’s great just like life. Gain is work ethic and then fortitude so when it gets stuff you can handle it you don’t panic. You don’t go around oh my delicate hands. That is the real world in the creator fieldand there’s so much more we have to deal with a lot that the public doesn’t know there’s a lot of good. There’s a lot of triumphs, but there’s a lot of blood sweat and tears.
I refuse to pay for software for ever and ever. I went to Linux because these companies are vile. Bye Microsoft, Adobe, etc.
Oh ya.
We used Adobe to help someone do a resume, took over a year to cancel and finally had to delete/cancel cc to get rid of them. Bunch of crooks. 🙏😎🦅🇺🇸
🤦🏻♂️ horrible.
The resume should have taken a month, it appears that if the timing is correctly guessed here, you could have taken out a 30 day DEMO of ALL Adobe software and if not continued to use, uninstall, for FREE. And, let's say you got caught in an annual sub, which I dn't rememebr that being a problem I've observed, encoutered or seen working creative pro for more than two decades... you couild have transferred that account to someone, who was wanting to LEARN graphics software to be EMPLOYED.
@@Modernaire I hope you're a bot. No sane person would dedicate this much of their time and energy bootlicking and brown-nosing an utterly shitty company.. or well, maybe you're being paid to do it.
Thank you! Absolutely needed video. My little Adobe story: About 5 years ago, I tried opening Photoshop, as I did every day since buying CS3 extended in 2007, and was met with a weird message: "You need to re-register your software in order to keep using it!" WOW! What??? I had bought the suite in September 2007, AND registered it at the time. So I thought, OK, no problem... but, when I tried to do so, Adobe told me that this version is no longer supported, and you cannot register it! No matter what I tried, I could not open any of the programs in the suite... I needed to "upgrade", which meant subscribe to their new model. I phoned, and of course, got nowhere. So, being inventive, I installed it again on a computer that was "not" connected to the internet. I still use it. I bought the frekain' thing for $1,600 CND, so I bloody well will use it. It is outdated, but for what I do, works perfectly well.
I hope everyone ditches these bandits. I will look into your suggested alternatives when I buy a computer that is recent enough to run them.
Thank you for this video. Please create updated "Life After Adobe" videos. I am tired of paying a monthly fee. We use Photoshop and Illustrator regularly as well as Acrobat Pro. I want to look into alternatives. I'm tired of paying a monthly fee.
Affinity Photo and Designer would be my short answer - if you're not dependent on special features of Ps and Ai, and don't need to do round-trip work with or for agencies/clients that use Adobe CC. With Acrobat Pro it depends on what you use it for (I'm using an old payed version, and I'm fine with it; there was a single-pay option for Acrobat Pro since not long ago, maybe it still exists).
Krita and Inkscape.
I have been using Xara since Aldus sold Photoshop to Adobe. There are only a few things that are difficult to do with a Ps file, but it is fun to use. Xara is available from their website. Magix supported it for a while, but it is independent once again.
Affinity is something I am exploring and liking as alternative.
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Not a pro, but a moderately advanced hobbyist. When Adobe switched to subscriptions, I paid for about a year, then I went full opensource, and never looked back.
It's not a drop-in replacement though, I had to re-learn lots of things, adapt my workflow, and figure out how to install plugins that make the various software work together.
It's been a learning curve, but quite worth it.
DCristina here. We moved from Avid to Smoke/Flame, and now are entirely on DaVinci. Bumper to bumper. We completely bypassed Adobe. We saw the handwriting on the wall well over a decade ago.. Your comments are well founded.
There is no software that can substitute all adobe products 😢
As a Linux user, I've not used Adobe products (save for an Adobe PDF reader for Android). I would love to see a new series of "life after Adobe" videos. If I may ask one favor: for the programs you cover, mention whether they run under Linux (or run successfully with WINE). Thanks!
Sounds great!!!
I've NEVER used any Adobe software. When I got into computers, way back, I was instantly put off by their extortionate price. I've stuck with free, open source sw since.
As a child when teacher asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up I proudly said I want to be a Space Pirate....Sadly I had to settle for being a Cyberspace Pirate 😉
Never used Photoshop. Starts with schools true, but also 98 % of RUclips influencers also promote the false theory that you can't be or are not a "real" professional if you don't used it. So false!!! Thank goodness for channels like yours!.
If my college will come to thsi realization soon, that would be great!
I totally agree with you 200%, those guys stole our licenses from buying their software, and then they found a way to block the software on our computer. They should pay all from stealing back our license.
Thank you. You are so right on so many levels. I dumped Adobe when they started "subscription" service over 10 years ago. Since I was somewhat familiar with Darktable and keep a Linux client and server going at home, I familiar enough to continue the steep climb, thus eliminating Lightroom. Since I am a Nikon shooter, I've since migrated to NX Studio. Photoshop Elements is one remaining Adobe software that I use and would like to dump it. I will be supporting your channel to break the final link to Adobe.
I agree with you 100%. Quicken followed a similar pattern, after Intuit sold it. Like you, I am not a renter and will not be held hostage to a subscription model. I have also been frustrated by companies that make it difficult to unsubscribe. The DOJ has much more to do in this regard. Thanks for making this video.
Just on a side note, I still use my Quicken 2000 (difficult to install, though, and will not print...). Adobe has been replaced for Serif Affinity as I do not do video or sound editing.
"The Phone Companies" at least you end up with a phone. Adobe you end up with not being able to access your files.
Ditched PS during the great subscription fiasco. Went to Affinity . . . never looked back.
While nothing to me, this "Oh, but I HAVE to use Adobe!" is mildly irritating.
Smart!!
'this "Oh, but I HAVE to use Adobe!" is mildly irritating.' Depends on the area you're working in. If working with design and ad agencies, you have to, because they nearly all use CC by now. I know not a single agency that doesn't use Adobe CC. And PS is not the main problem in this regard, it is ID, AI, Acrobat and all the rest (it is a huge package).
@@c.augustin I understand that people in business might be stuck with Adobe. But, in that case, it's a deductible expense, no? And not a particularly onerous one. I think Adobe is counting on that. Just trying to figure out why people feel they have no alternative. Why any non-pro, not able to write the expense off on taxes, would stick with Adobe is a mystery to me.
@@terrydanks Yes, it's a deductible expense - but a hefty one, if you don't make that much money with these programs (not so much when they are your main tools, but still). Not everyone gets rich in the graphics industry, especially as freelancers. And for non-pros - they can easily get away with Affinity apps (quite affordable) and all the rest (like DaVinci Resolve, which can be used for free). And then there's the photography bundle (PS, LR, Bridge and Camera Raw), which is not only affordable, but also really good even for amateurs. And it is quite obvious to me that most commenters are not professionals (or at least only with photography, where it is easy to use other tools), as they nearly always point at Photoshop and its (many) alternatives, but ignore the elephant in the room - InDesign (and to a certain extent Illustrator).
You can never really NOT look back, becasue a dream job, client may require Adobe knowledge and skills. Plus, youcant avoid Adobe entirely, you will always have some Adobe even in the backedn of every tech thing you use.
I haven't used anything Adobe in forever. Back in the day when Adobe open sourced the PDF format I dropped their reader PDF software and never looked back.
Nice.
Yes please.. more life after Adobe content. I’m mainly involved in pre press and curse Adobe on a daily basis
👍🏻
I would love a 2024 review of all Adobe alternatives including Acrobat (which is the only title to which I still subscribe. thanks for your continued advocacy!
I remember using PDF X-Change many years ago instead of Adobe Acrobat and their software was pretty good. Not sure how they comprare nowadays though
PDF gear is an alternative for Acrovat Pro and is free to download.
@@isarelluenfer7776 PDF gear has all the functions of Adobe Acrobat Pro.
We at West Bend Printing/West Bend News left Adobe on most things. The newspaper is now entirely done in Affinity and Apple Notes. Everything on all creative computers is done in Affinity. We still use Acrobat because of Pitstop and Quite plugins. It would be nice for there to be an alternatives for those plugins.
I just changed my credit card to one that is expiring few months before the renewal date and that takes care of the unsubscribe from adobe trouble. Or you can just call your bank to block all future transaction from adobe, or change your credit card number. Why bother wasting 1hr+ of your life trying to go thru the trouble of cancelling it with adobe? Rather spend that time watching utube videos...
I’m personally sick of the business models of running out of ideas and then moving to perpetual monthly fees to keep afloat. Then to top it off if they are publically traded they have more incentive to answer to investors instead of their customers.
Even RUclips, all linear business models now of the old world is turning into a profit money printing machine with shitty subscriptions and ridiculous features, you can tell the entire economy is going down hill be cos of these sleepy practices until some else comes along.
The "publicly traded" argument is a flawed one. A good product gets a company plenty of money and pleases the shareholders too. This model worked well for many decades now. The reason we are at where we are now is a monopolized market due to (bad) regulation, possibly complacency due to cartel behaviour, and people buying their bad product in the first place. The support for them by the customer should have stopped the moment they started with the bad practices. I do realize that companies who depend on them can't just switch to a different product, even more so when there are barely any alternatives left. In the end the customer is still king. We can still vote with our wallets if a companies incentives go corrupt. The same should happen to companies like Microsoft and their increasingly intrusive OS, yet people just keep paying for the same slop.
what happens to a company with very powerful, rich investors....but without any customers?
@@SpocksBroAdobe is not a monopoly. There are alternatives available. They are not a cartel, either. That’s silly. Their products are not bad. If they were, no amount of subscriptions would keep them afloat. The old model didn’t work anymore because of the rising costs of good talent and the competition of others. If Adobe made poor software or charged too much for it, they would have gone out of business long ago.
@@SpocksBro Switch to Linux. There is a distro out there for everybody. Just make a little effort to learn it. It is fun and intersting. You won't regret it once you kick the Windoze habit.
Been Using Affinity since I watched your series "Cutting the Cord" GREAT STUFF and I never looked back. Thank you!
I completely agree with your statements Joe. You are correct - My high school and college FORCED us to use Adobe. They wouldn't let us use or try anything else. I asked. They gave us discounts to get us started and now we are stuck using their products for the rest of our life. I wonder does Adobe buy the education system to "be on their side?" In the past 6 years, my work is also asking us and encouraging to use alternatives and sending us for training training because they do not any longer believe Adobe is an ethical business or sustainable business model.
Yes, they do pay them.. I had an autodesk license via a Danish school, because I did work for a guy who was also a teacher. It was just a student license, but it saved me thousands of dollars to just learn the software.. But it is common to create a monopolistic environment for these companies..
That's exactly what they do. Reference managers too. Microsoft lives by that model.
Yes, unfortunately it is. They exactly invest in education with a student program. The schools should also avoid Microsoft in favor of Linux based systems. Full open source model. But the ideal is to make a law in the US and Europe against these predatory, monopolistic licenses' sellers.
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It's weird to remember that Photoshop 4 was once sufficient for all professional graphics being done in the world. And that was when almost everything was print. We thought we had tools we controlled. Tools to use til they wore out. The tools have us now.
been using CS6 for 10 plus years. Granted freelance and not crazy busy...but it's mine in perpetuity, the artwork is mine, and I'm not having to find $1200 a year to give to adobe. That's 12 grand over the last 10 years. That's nuts.
@@out_spocken It's yours as long as you can activate it on a new machine (no longer runs with newer macOS versions, if you're not on Windows). You might be up for a bad awakening (or at least some trouble) …
Photoshop 4 would suffice even today - it had most of the features I come back to even today. Started with 2.5 (no layers!) and found 4 quite powerful. The funny thing is that Affinity Photo 2.5 still lacks lots of these old features, and that's the problem I have with switching.
@@c.augustin I run mojave. And yes...when I eventually have to I might be in some trouble but thankfully there's other programs to them port across to. I'm not paying $80 a month for Adobe. To be honest...I'll probably run a vm when I need to upgrade my macbook 2015. That said...I might also just keep a macbook that I use purely for cs6. It'll run as fast as I need it because it doesn't need to run new programs.
@@out_spocken I had my Mac mini on an old system for a long time to keep my old stuff running, but I'm on Windows for lots of years by now (and bought a Windows Version of CS6 Standard), so that's not my main issue. Be not too sure that you will be able to activate your CS6 after switching machines going to a VM - Adobe is playing games, just revoking licenses on re-activation if they please. I ignored the problem some months ago (since I still had an instance running on my main machine), but it might be a problem when I set up my new machine next week or so, and then I'll need to contact Adobe Support - something I'm dreading …
I was unaware that the DOJ was suing Adobe. Best news I’ve heard for a long time. I became aware of Adobe’s disgusting business practices in the 90’s when I worked in the software world. They’ve only gotten worse over the decades. I discovered your channel - a timely event. I never got sucked into the Adobe subscription stuff, but have been using the final Adobe Lightroom that did not require a subscription. I am considering a new camera that is unsupported by my version and have decided it’s high time to do the work to completely break with Adobe. I will be perusing your channel for ideas. Thanks for your work and calling Adobe out.
I don't see why the same thing shouldn't apply to Microsoft. It used to be that you could buy an operating system and upgrade as you chose not being forced into it or their current model, all new computers must have Windows 11 and must be equipped in a particular way. Don't like that at all. Thinking very seriously about just making the full-time switch to Linux.
Adobe subscription was good for people who could'nt afford to buy the software outright, but of course it always gets worst. Phone companies do that. Nobody does anything about it anyways. Iphone have done that too. in Europe customer protection is taken seriously compared to North America.
Consumers are given a say in what's best for them, not the government, IN THE USA. Free market vs fascist markets.
I quit Adobe after 23 years. I’m now two years into using Affinity photo, publisher and designer. There are also others that are really good too such as Krita and Pinta.
Yes I am interested in seeing an updated "life after Adobe" series. Thanks!
There's a *lot* of newspapers that still do; it may not be that necessary for freelancers, but some of us aren't.
I would love to see an *updated “Life After Adobe” series
More to come, in the meantime Check out my Life After Adobe Cutting The Cord Series PLAYLIST.
Sounds good. Thanks!
This has me realizing that I work for an educational institution and have to abide by FERPA law. If Adobe has access to my CC-created content then they essentially could have access to private student data.
The oddest thing about this is that Adobe's stock price barely blipped in response to this news where most companies would see an immediate drop in stock price at news of being sued by the federal government!
Adobe users aren't budging. People who need Adobe software are making their livings with it. They're not going to budge until there are real alternatives that don't cost them in lost productivity. I think that there are real alternatives for some of Adobe's software but for sure, there's nothing viable out there for all of it. So if you're lucky, you're not depending on Photoshop, or Illustrator. Or maybe even Indesign.
Bingo. The Hate Adobe Mob isn't that influential!
I had fully legal, self-purchased full suite Adobe Creative Suite. They told me my "copy" was just a copy, purchased illegally and would no longer be enabled. That's right. They disabled my software and told me I could purchase a subscription if I wanted to continue using what I'd been using. All my files were locked. I did the back and forth with them. The end. No more Adobe. I primarily use Inkscape, Gimp and some RAW editors.
I still use CS4 Photoshop. It is a 32 bit program so I’ve reached the end of my tolerance for avoiding system updates and need to move on. In the past, I have checked out your cutting the cord series, but I would like to see you produce updates to life without Adobe.
For example, I just found out that exposure software has not been updated for a long time and they are not replying to my queries. Your whole series was wonderful. I just think it needs to be kept up-to-date. Thank you for this exposé of the DOJ lawsuit.
Isn't Autodesk too somewhat doing similar things by buying their rival CAD & 3D software?
The best way to cancel subscription at that time was to just cancel credit card and forget about it.
There was a report where a guy found that although he had deleted everything off his PC from Adobe, there was something left over in his computer that not only detected his newer pirated version but auto deleted it from his PC. This means you need to go even further if you want to break all ties to them. Maybe even needing to install a new Hard drive and migrate over the files, programs you need manually.
I wound up doing a fresh install of Windows in an effort to get rid of their remaining bullshit.
I didn't go with Adobe because I didn't feel a week long trial was long enough to evaluate it and cancel in time if I didn't like it. I use DXO photolab with Affinity because they gave me a month trial and no auto contract after the trial. DXO is expensive but I know where I stand. I do my raw edits in DXO then save the Tiff to further edit in affinity photo 2. I'm very happy with my setup.
Thanks for these videos! New sub. I cancelled my subscription and stopped using Adobe after 20+ years, just last week. So far, haven't looked back.
Premiere was the last tool I used on Windows. I switched to Linux Fedora despite having spent nearly $3000 to establish an Adobe/Windows environment and the transition was accelerated/encouraged by Adobe's changed pricing model! While I haven't found replacements for Premiere/AfterEffects/Photoshop, the free media tools on Linux come pretty close to being enough. Has someone created a "transition guide" for each of the Adobe tools?
DaVinci Resolve for PP/AE; free version is fantastic. IF you need the Studio version, get BlackMagic's "Speed Editor" keypad/dial, it's just $100 more than the Studio version, *_and comes with it._* Darktable as LR replacement. Dying to have Affinity expand to Linux.
I don't get it. Why all of a sudden now does everyone have so much trouble with Adobe? For years people have used it, even when they moved over into leasing it all. I use it but I don't have all the issues many of you all do.
We dropped adobe everything on our corporate networks about a week ago.
My team was quite proactive while watching the horrible practices from Adobe. They came to the meeting with a well detailed plan and we pulled the trigger. Our users seem to be fine and understand. Creative suite is utter garbage, and removing that albatross from machines has sped them up as well.
I cancelled them last week. I do love Photoshop, and have yet to find one that I like as much. But tired of Adobe's BS.
Affinity photo…
Maybe photopea? Or is that one too restrictive?
@@jorty. I insalled Gimp and Krita. I thnk between those two it whould be enough. I just learned of Photopea. It looks great.
ASC 606 Accounting rules for subscription revenue are why there are fees to bail out of an annual subscription. The accounting treatment is expensive to unravel. Corporations understand why they sign a commitment for an annual subscription that the only two choices are run the subscription to the annual end OR renew in 12 months. Unsophisticated consumers think rules don't apply to them.
I stopped using Adobe products when they moved to the subscription model and I pointed this out in an Amazon review I did. I was then deluged with attacks by Adobe employees for my review. I have never had this happen with any other product I have reviewed. I watched your series on cutting the cord and after checking out several products came to the same conclusions you did. I now use Affinity Photo, software I bought for $40 and I haven't looked back. I own it. At some point, I'll update to the newer version (I'm still on the old one, but as an amateur photographer, I don't have a lot of time right now anyway, so the old one is good enough for now).
Anyway, I wanted to say two things. First, I will never go back to Adobe. Second, thank you for continuing to add to your series of cutting the cord. I would love to see updates on new products and how you think they compare.
One last thing, I couldn't agree more about how schools promote Adobe and how this needs to stop. It reminds me of the early days of when they always said things had to be done on a Mac.
Thanks again for what you do. Keep it up!
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 thank you for being here.
You might want to check out the special they have going on right now. $85 for the entire 2.0 suite. And I think if you own the original ones they give you a bunch of extra stuff too.
I myself not a fan of paying Adobe on a monthly basis. Looking for new software. Seriously !!! 🤔
I would be curious to find out how many cash cows (customers) adobe has lost and is still losing.
I definitely would love to see an updated "Cutting the Cord" serries from you.
Starting work on it next week.
@@jcristina Same here! An update is very much needed!! :)
A lot of new programs out there now!
Never heard of you. Liked and subscribed within the first 2 minutes.
I started using Adobe in 1993. I used it all the way up to CS 6. And then... well, we all know what happened. I just stuck with my CS6 versions (I never bothered with the .5 versions). Shortly after that, I gave up on getting any 'help' from Adobe for anything--not like they were ever helpful in the first place.
And then I slowly but surely started using GIMP, of all things. Still not satisfied with that solution--I'll be taking a hard look at your other videos! Affinity Photo, you say? I'm already in love with Davinci Resolve--found that myself about a year ago, and Blender which I also love 2-3 years ago--so I expect to like what I find when I deep dive your suggestions!
Absolutely. Hands down. Check out Affinity Photo. Thanks for being here.
Wow I thought I was the only one and kept my mouth shut because I was ashamed as a photographer. I found that the subscription model depended on fast internet and fast pc hardware. So instead I arranged to buy older software from friends and that’s where I stayed. The rest of editing know how to be about to do what is offered in the online versions. Thanks I feel better now.
Sadly. Many are keeping quiet.
Here’s my horror story with Adobe. I spent a lot of time transferring multiple personal mini DV, VHS and 8mm recordings so I can later edit and organize them. Almost a year later I opened up the program to work on it and couldn’t find my bins with the transferred footage (I assumed it would be on my hard drive) then I got lured into updating my subscription. Thinking that afterwards I would have access to my files. Nope. Now I would have to do all that work transferring all my tapes again. At that point I tried canceling and they wanted to charge me hundreds of dollars that I don’t have to cancel a subscription that I don’t use. I came across your video by chance. Hoping that the law suit will allow cancellation without penalties. In the meantime I’m stuck paying the monthly fee. Go figure. Thanks for the info.
Just learning about this. Would love to see current alternatives for PDF, Photo, etc.
Affinity. 100% worth it. You own it. Take a little time to learn it, including its workflow and limitations. Good stuff.
@@LV4EVR Thank you for the feedback! I will definitely look into it.
Clip studio paint is also great. Blackmagic's Da Vinchi resolve for video editing.
I've been really enjoying Davinci and Inkscape, but what are the other PS alternatives besides Affinity? Any Lightroom alternatives?
Awesome software. Working on more videos..
Yes, i did start watching you around the time you did your 'cutting the cord' series. I'd like an updated review on alternative software. I'd like to see if your recommendations would be the same, or if you'd change any of them.
I did too, and canceled everything, they have lost their freaking minds, plus their software is ugly as hell, always felt like I was using Windows from 1997
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I left Adobe and don't agree with their BS. I deleted it all. Thanks for the great Video!
Likewise.
I never signed up for Adobe or Microsoft Office and have been using Affinity, Softmaker Office and others. The only Adobe I still use is Acrobat 11, which I own. On a similar note I download and convert, if needed, all on line music I purchase. Society is heading towards....."You will own nothing and be happy about it."
Yes, please create another up to date life after Adobe, I want to drop Lightroom & Photoshop on my Mac.
I would like to see you produce updates to life without Adobe. For example, I just found out that exposure software has not been updated for a long time and they are not replying to my queries. Your whole history was wonderful. I just think it needs to be kept up-to-date. Thank you for this exposure of the DOJ lawsuit.
I’m also (for the first time in years) looking to move from Windows to Linux. I’m not religious with computers in any way shape or form, but Windows Recall was the final straw. I already have a MacBook Pro M1 laptop and am happy with Apple.
I’m going to look at Fedora and a few other Windows User friendly distros for my Tower PC. Privacy is extremely important to me, and should be for everyone else too.
I like fedora. mint. suse. Ubuntu
apple is no saint. their OS’s scan all of your content for their own purposes.
I rather use CS6 on a old computer and affinity photo on a modern pc’s than give a penny to that filthy rich and greedy company.😉
Still works well..
QuickBooks needs to be next!!!
2021 was the last version of Quickbooks I will purchase. This subscription shit is getting outrageous. What is next? You can't turn on your Windows computer without paying a monthly fee?
And it gets worse.
I have a photography business AND a home maintenance company.
I have to pay QuickBooks “TWO” subscription fees, one for each business entity. That I use on my computer.
Since Adobe is quote "one of the more corupt, imoral, etc.", I can see no reason not to FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE :D and use pirated version, hit them where it hurts :D . I just checked now and found the latest +32Gb kit of Adobe stand-alone, no subscribtion needed for use, pirated version. Sure, can't use it for official busines, but for home, some pirated version kits are even better than the original, since are striped from all those nonsense exatra Adobe stuff that keeps you shackled with. Especially when it comes to Adobe products, those briliant pirate minds do an exquisite job. :D
Left Adobe 7yrs back a bunch of rogues is my personal opinion. Use Affinity and Devinci Resolve for my personal work. No pinching . Clean and safe.
It's Affinity Photo for me. I shouldn't write this probably, but in the early 2000's I acquired a bootleg Photoshop 6… yes 6… not CS6. I loved it. I learned to do some basic editing, which was all I ever needed. I had planned to buy Photoshop when I could afford it, but then they went on subscription. I kept using my Photoshop 6 for years as long as I was able to install it. Then it stopped working. I looked for alternatives to Photoshop and decided Affinity Photo was the best option. I bought that, and with the help of some RUclips videos, I managed to relearn my editing processes, and haven't had an issue. I refuse to go on a subscription for that type of software. Small app subscriptions are usually not a big deal to me, but subscribing to computer software… .no fuck that!
Adobe is the height of arrogance in preditory business models. All of these practices are used by other tech companies, but none are near as arrogant.
Facts.
I'd be interested in the alternative software you are using. I already have some, but not other software, for all the packages I used, that I would like to replace. Thank you, Greg Ashton Johannesburg, South Africa
I don't like business models that lock you into using their products. Adobe was always too expensive, that being said I do use Lightroom express as it is free.
Going back 25 years, it was cheaper to fly from Australia to the US walk out of the airport, buy a copy of photoshop then fly back to Australia than it was to buy in Australia.
Hi Jay, a very interesting video :) I have a question though, what happens with non americans? A full world is using Adobe, so what if I want to add myself to that suing??? And yes the schools perpetuate this down here in Uruguay as well.... It would be so wonderful if you could teach us how to use Affinity? I am still struggling with those apps! A big hug for you and the family :)
25yrs of Adobe here, probably spent 30-40K throughout the various studios. Went to college for Graphics/Advertising and had a successful agency so literally fanboi'd for them, until the subscription age. Finally cancelled it all a few weeks ago. Got Affinity, Krita, and I can still use all the PSD/EPS/etc files within Affinity and the shortcuts are all the same and the UI is easy to pick up. Can't believe I didn't look into alternates for this long...
Congrats. You sound like me.
Man, you really lay it out there. It's fantastic. Keep up the good work, yes I'm looking to dump Adobe I'm 70 years of age. I don't work with that anymore and still they found a way to come and get my money without my authorization. Disgusting.
I never used Adobe as an amateur. The only issue I see with not using Adobe is when a client requires a specific file format to used that is proprietary to Adobe. My suspicion is this is less of a problem than many are led to believe.
I would love to see an updated "Life After Adobe'
Is there a viable alternative to After Effects?
Hey J, thanks bud. good work here. I deleted my whole suite (cloud) a couple weeks ago when I found out about this whole DOJ thing. Do you think a class action lawsuit will be filed against Adobe by its users?
I'm still gonna use Adobe products, but, with cracks, installed only in a VM.
I also deleted my 17 year adobe sub....they play DIRTY and SCAMY.
Take your money & share it with open source developers. If we do this, not only will our creativity be our own, but the developers will have the resources to create software that rivals or even exceeds the quality of Adobe & other corporate developers. Simple... Switch to Linux, install what you need & pay the open source developers fairly. Problem solved. No more Adobe, no more Microsoft, No more Apple & no more AI training so they can take you jobs.
In theory yes. But your reason and rational is extremely limited in the broader business world where 99% do not know or care. And Adobe knows this and ignores the tiny number of users who stop using their products. Sad but true
So what do I use if I only want to view PDF documents? I'm sick of the monthly subscriptions.
I also don't like the subscription model but you get new features pretty much every month. I actually bought Adobe shares to offset the cost of their software😊😅
Been using open source software for years. no need for adobe. will be moving totally to Linux within a month, so i'll
be rid of the micro$oft tax too. never got deceived by apple either. ...stay free...
I've only ever used acrobat just to read PDF's once in awhile and it's free, I would not pay monthly to use that program
I’ve seen a ton of these videos lately as I am also sick of the subscription as well as Adobes attitude towards users. The problem is I often have to share files with collaborators or colleagues. I cannot migrate to systems that won’t enable me to share files due to format issues. I have been testing Affinity and it’s not a seamless integration, so unless everyone I work with collectively migrates (and the won’t happen anytime soon), I cannot make the shift. It’s been the problem on all of the “alternative choices video” it’s solo artists or designers, who mainly work alone. They are not part of a larger team. As long as there is not a seamless alternative, Adobe still have the upper hand, in a lot of situations. It’s sad but that is the case.
You should have rights to use the software unlimited over an year of subcription! You can stay put to that version and pay for an update if u need/want new features. Moreover, this should also be applied to all software companies. In this way they will inovate more not just versioning the versions.
My cousin was a teacher for creative software and she taught gimp instead of photoshop. Adobe is awful, I deleted even the pdf reader from my pc.
Yes please! A refresh on your experience would be great plus any new developments. Thanks!
This is the exact reason why so many people have used hacked versions of LR & PS for so long.
right on! nice work! i move completely to linux years ago and i’m a professional photographer. Big learning curve but once you master your workflow you can produce high level work no problems.
F Abode! Yes - refresh your cutting the cord with them!
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I left Adobe behind when they turned PDFs into a virus vector back in the day. They would not correct the security problems. Similarly I ended up dumping Windows for Mac and Linux. Please crank out the modern alternatives. Open source preferred. Teach us as GIMP is so long in the tooth.
I'd be very interested in a series about alternatives to Adobe.💯
Photoshop, Illustrator, In Design, and Premier are easy to replace, but I have yet to find an affordable alternative for After Effects for creating 2D animations. Any suggestions that works with a full range of file types. Needs to work on older Mac OS. I am on Mojave.