This interview was life changing for me. I’ve never really considered how I viewed the incarcerated before then. I’ve never had a strictly negative or dehumanizing perspective on them, although I think a lot of people do, but I never really made the effort to try and understand them. That understanding now makes my world a little fuller, and I’m now completely invested in the fight for humane rehabilitation! This is a great step forward
This guy gets more unique streams than a lot of major networks combined and look at how the comments saying this interview changed how they view prisoners. Major news outlets have utterly failed.
The entire point of prison is supposed to be about rehabilitation. Glad to see members of the community help their fellow American citizens in their goal of reintegrating back into society after their sentences are over. These guys have done more for their community than most of us ever do for ours in our entire lives.
This is slave labor. They’re getting paid almost nothing for risking their lives, and they only do it in order to be outside the jail and because any money is better than nothing. The worst part is that they won’t even be able to use this experience because ex-cons barely ever get hired as firefighters. This exploitation of inmates by corporations needs to end.
No it is NOT..... the entire point of prison to suffer the consequences of your actions and how you negatively affected others.' Get out of here with your liberal BS.
You’d think prison would be about rehabilitation but that’s overwhelmingly a myth. There were far more programs in the past but those have mostly been gutted. Prisons are about punishment. Plain and simple.
That’s reserved for my entitled Caucasian neighbors who live in a gated community and drive their lifted trucks 😂 Most entitled people in my neighborhood!
I think an important reform to the system is to allow these brave men a career opportunity AFTER they're released! They received necessary training and put in really hard work in dangerous conditions but then they're not even eligible to pursue a fire fighting career because of their criminal background! They have the experience and should be allowed those jobs! Eliminate the prohibition against felons who've been successfully rehabilitated!
These guys had been on a 24 hour shift up in the hills and mountains and was back in the staging area for a 24 hour break. The color of their hats represent what group of the prison population they come from I think. The guys in the red hats was imprisoned as youth offenders as far as I understood, and they hadn't had access to a shower in 4 days because their only shower had been taken from them by the civilian wildfire fighters who didn't want to share it with inmates or something. Luckily people from the Coachella Festival donated mobile showers to them so I think they got to take a shower that night, but the guy that spoke about it was scared of being kicked off the program for saying something.
MSM rather build emotional pieces around rich land/capital owners. They focused on some "regular folk", but not the incarcerated. Good for them for at least changing their tune (slightly)
The interviewer actually mentioned that when they had talked to inmate firefighters that they were not able to get the same openness as Hassan was able to- and likely for a variety of reasons
To be fair, corporate media answer to their shareholders, who don't care about real people unless it's exploitable/profitable. As a rule, prison rehabilitation programs typically aren't sensational enough for the evening news.
My dad was an incarcerated Cal firefighter decades ago, and he was grateful for the experience. It gives people dignity and self worth which they’re often deprived of in prison. The prison system should be much more about this kind of rehabilitation. ❤
I wish more Americans could look to other nations like Norway that center and implement rehabilitation instead of pure, draconian punishment. Our current society and laws give in to our worst instincts which have resulted in America having 25% of the WORLD's incarcerated population. Specifically, Californians are inundated with crime panic propaganda at a time when crime is declining. We need to be more empathetic to our fellow countryman of all walks of life.
Local prison had workshop programs. They made some great high-quality furniture for Wal-Mart prices, and local politicians said it was slavery. So program was shut down
@@jamalwilburn228 if they were hand making it and selkling it as cheap as mass produced stuff from over seas they were 100% doing slavery wages they should have just paid them more in stead of stopping it
As a Monterey County resident on the Central Coast of California, I've known for decades the value of incarcerated fire crews. We need to ensure appropriate wages and ensure career pathways after release. Can we talk about the inhumane FOR-PROFIT PRISON SYSTEM? They can't support rehabilitation; it hurts their bottom lines. They want repeat offenders.
@@geeemm8028 Can I ask if the prisoners have ever had their labour used to keep scrub and bush land from accumulating? The prisoners appeared glad and relieved to be helping positively locally. It’s appears non sensical only to utilise their numbers and skills during fires. Surely their labour could also help ensure future fires are kept at a minimum by them clearing scrub and bush regularly. Working/Labour gives people self worth. Prisons are supposed to be about rehabilitation and second chances.
@ Once accepted into the program, the incarcerated firefighters are moved out of prisons and are housed at fire camps throughout the state where they live, continue training, and community service. I don’t know what exactly they do in terms of forest maintenance. There is an American drama tv show “Fire Country” which is centered around an incarcerated fire camp. Forty episodes so far, but I only watched maybe the first two or three and don’t recall what they do in their off time. I will definitely watch it again.
I like how people are like "Prison Labor good" - "They deserve to be in horrible conditions." Then turn around and try and tell you Gulags are bad. Capitalist Programming.
@@user-wj8pi5bj3k Easy to say, we all make mistakes, only others make interesting mistakes, that put them behind bars. Remember NO human being is perfect.
I feel weird whenever I encounter people who doesn't know who Hasan is. I thought he's like mainstream popular. I guess it makes me realize just how chronically online I am 😂😂
Glad to see Hasan getting more recognition in the media, his work is incredible and has inspired so many people. It is incredibly difficult to find someone with such a large platform who's ideas are based on compassion and care for others. Few have put in as much work as he has to make knowledge on politics and social issues accessible for all, especially through the noise of headlines and partisan debates. THANK YOU HASAN!! ❤
That is an excellent program. Can you transform these prisons back into society? I'm showing them love let them know they are important they are somebody, and they have not been forgotten. Thank God!! This is amazing.❤
It’s not amazing, it’s abuse. They get paid almost nothing for risking their lives. Getting paid $5-$10 per day for firefighting is practically slave labor.
@@artloverivy indeed this should pay normal wage and should also have hazard pay. i don't care what your background is you should be paid for your labor.
Thankfully, this actually is no longer true! Since 2020, people who partake in the firefighter program(s) while incarcerated have the opportunity to have their record expunged upon release to work for Cal Fire
I think if California is letting these inmates go out there and fight these fires and risk there lives. Then they should most definitely be getting paid better.. it shouldn't matter that they are prison inmates and because of that they don't get paid anything at all really. If they're out there risking dying by smoke inhalation or being literally burned alive. Then yall should be paying them the same amount that the other fire workers are being paid.
I was an inmate in 1987, CDF California Department of Forestry/San Bernardino Fire Department. CDF trained us and it took aprox. 18 months, I took the Exam, passed and Certified by the State of California.....while I was in completing my sentence, got early release, went to see the Chief, he hired me as his ASST> Instructor...assign to Fire Fighter training, and medical training, I RE Certified all Fire fighters for 1st Responder..update. Ended up Fire Captain, Instructor, we are all retired now.....but 2nd chances are real.....I'm 1 of the few that made it full circle.....not many do.....most give up,
Incredible and needed perspective and interview. We’re grateful to see everyone’s compassion to these men. Easy to see they only need to feel like a valuable contribution to society and be on a team for good. Wishing all better opportunities ahead.
These are called Fire Camps, they are also a little more lax on security but they are less violent offenders, they even have female Fire Camps. The live in the camps under the Sheriffs watch, on off times they train, wash the trucks, etc. The camps are set up in the mountains so they are like little summer camps in peace and quiet. I agree with what he said, they don't want to go back to regular prison because the conditions are way better in the Fire Camps. They do their job, people shouldn't feel sorry for them, they are doing their community service and rehabilitating.
My Ex was in this fire camp about 10yrs ago. People should defiantly not feel bad for them. It’s WAY better in the fire camp than prison. They get open air visits for 1-2 hours. And you can bring them whatever food they like. They are actually doing something constructive with their time. My ex told me that they got fed steak and lobster when they would be out on fires. Also my cousins wife was in a non prison related fire program at the same place. (Not same time as my ex). And she said the prisoners were treated better and got more freedom then they did. These guys aren’t angels, and they probably did people really dirty to get there. It’s a good thing they are serving society. Because reality is, when they get out, they might not do more crimes. But they probably won’t better their lives either. Not because they can’t, but allot of them don’t want to.
@that.ll_do_pig you clearly didn't. They are paid $24 at the highest. And if you watch the whole interview, you'll find they are not paid additional for crisis/emergencies. On top of that they pretty much can't be hired as firefighters even with this experience.
Pay them correctly! They still have expenses they need to cover on a daily basis. They are doing the same work as any other firefighter. So as long as these private prisons are turning a profit they need to pay their workers accordingly just like any other business! Great interview.
the headline refers to a journalist doing actual journalism as a "RUclipsr," while the secondhand reporting on the reporting gets to call itself journalism because it's NBC?
@@FogRain123IN OUR COUNTRY … MANY CAN EVEN LEARN A PROFESSION … AND YES FOR FREE. WHEN THEY ARE FREE … THEY ARE A PART OF THE SOCIETY AGAIN … GET A SECOND CHANCE … AND YES … PAY TAXES.
@@FogRain123 not thats basically rehabilitation. We are not even talking about treating them well at this point their conditions are so bad it's just treating them like human beings
Hope NBC gives the message to all the "inmates" firefighters that across the world everyone is saying Thank you and Bless you. We are sorry that you are being paid so low and hopefully you get some rest, be protected from the fire and get a lot of time taken off of your jail sentences. We the people(working class) appreciate your hard work. It is unfortunate that all the multi-millionaires don't set up a fund that will compensate each of you separately into your accounts, that would be a true gesture of appreciation as it is all their homes that are mostly affected. Believe the layman firefighters are paid $25 - 30/hr ($55,000/year) and you are working straight 24 hour shifts for many days.
NBC - why didn’t you play the part where they havnt showered for 5 days cause the normal fire fighters are discriminating them from using their shower… where Scott had to get Coachella to donate some shower trucks for these guys
Yup. It's almost like COVID was our big chance as humans to come together to support each other but it fractured us even worse. I truly believe those who follow anything like politics or religion or celebrities are being manipulated by corporations and foreign hackers/bots. In 2016, we went to war online and never looked back. What happened was Russian/Iranian bots sparked online chaos very subtly and made us think our neighbors are our enemy. Small nudges and incendiary comments that set bad examples and give people toxic rhetoric. I'm not involved in social media much and I watched it all spiral downhill clear as day. I worry for our society because it seems we are crumbling as a species and we destroyed our home planet. We are swirling the cosmic drain.
@Darkness23Light These inmates had excellent training at the worst fire disaster in California’s history ! They did well. I’m positive many will be accepted to further their training as professional Fire Fighters ! 👏💕
Yes, thats true. They actually gain employment opportunities with the state or federal agency upon following up when they are released.. @Jennifer-r2211
The inmates have LUNGS 🫁 just like the firefighters ! Please provide the inmates with professional masks, give them sleeping gear for a good nights rest, for Gawd’s sake ! We are ALL humans ❤️
Hasan is SO well-spoken here (perfect Summary!) , and NBC did a fantastic job finding the greatest Sound-bite clips!!! (and Hasan and Caroline Kwan both look so young and sharp -- they look like 27 years old).
I was in the program, and they do give you a sleeping bag and the whole gear when you out fighting fires. Personally, those days were some of the best in my life.. most people treat you well. 2me, that's a good program that helps inmates a lot
@@martini4203 in more recent comments it’s been said the fire fighter inmates were paid $24/hr. Now they need professional firefighter masks!! Next: sleeping equipment so they can have proper rest. Those two things are a MUST !
I see inmates without masks on. Is California going to foot the bill when they get lung cancer? I'm glad Hasan is bringing attention to this program but I cringed when he mentioned the prisons not having "real weights" as if that was a bad thing. They took weight benches out of prison for a reason.
The mask thing is a bid deal ! These men fighting the fire and smoke NEED masks❗️
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I don't care how we find the money...every inmate that raised their hand, that stepped up should be given a presidential pardon and given a lifetime sustainable career as a wild fire fighter....evey last one of them! You are doing your service to your country! GOD BLESS YOU LL!
This program has been around for decades. I remember when a lot of inmates from the sierra conservation center came to copperopolis to fight a major fire up there. They were using tractors and bulldozers to make a fire line and putting out flames and so on. I went down to the fire line and gave them all a bunch of cold water bottles cause it was really hot that summer but they were some of the nicest people ive ever come across and am thankful for how hard they worked to save houses like mine.
Mention that these guys have to pay for their own phone calls! There is no or few computers to learn how to stay in touch with society or update skills.
Thank you for covering this with information and education on the program. Much appreciated. I'm not too familiar with rehabilitation programs, but from what I understand it's a very positive thing (for everyone). Glad it's helping them, those affected by these wildfires, and communities overall. Some people want to continue their ill-intention trends in prison, and some do not. Based on the one interview with one of the inmate firefighters, it seems to be helpful in that manner. Those who want to change for the better get that opportunity, and those who want to stay in their ways stay imprisoned (and these firefighter inmstes can get away from it and can do great things).
Inmate crews are contributing, that is something I am Thankful for. Their pay may not equate to the normal cost of living, although they have received training, continue to make progress. Perhaps 🤔 a day will come and any “pay raise” should be given to them upon their release (to help their families or pending shelter). Fire retardant sleeping bags could be helpful. Ty for this program for inmate, I have always applauded these programs. There is a compound about 30 minutes on hills by our home, and I love having them there
Took them off because they busy with yo mama. Pass her around bro. Are you seriously asking about masks when you maga people complained about it 5 years ago?
fr one of these guys said the love the get from the community was something they never had growing up and it was something they sought in the wrong places that eventually lead to prison
There's so much we need to up grade in California. Its truly mind boggling how backwards our state is. Church this is happening on your watch. We will be held accountable to GOD Almighty. No joke
These inmates firefighters are risking their own lives saving others. It may be some sort of redemption for them from debts they inflicted on society but they needed to be paid more, I think. In certain conditions, it will be a life changing prospect for some of them to get firefighting jobs.
One more time change the Constitution if you want it to end. Read it read ot and read ot again the 13th amendment. Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Rather go camp, help and earn some money than stay cooped up in prison. It’s basically the fire departments army. And to feel loved for doing it? Got my vote!
I reluctantly give NBC props for paying attention and shining light on this important aspect of the fire situation in California. Hopefully they continue to promote good journalism.
The inmates pay is the sum of daily rate plus $1 / hour payment during emergency. The highest pay is $10.24 + $24 =$34.24 for 24 hour shift. These are those who will leave prison soon so they have all the incentives to live and to stay healthy but they risk their life to save life and property.
4:46 to hear him say they’ve never received that kind of love is heartbreaking. EVERYONE deserves some love.
All you need is love man ❤❤
Criminals are evil
I'm fine alone thanks
This interview was life changing for me. I’ve never really considered how I viewed the incarcerated before then. I’ve never had a strictly negative or dehumanizing perspective on them, although I think a lot of people do, but I never really made the effort to try and understand them. That understanding now makes my world a little fuller, and I’m now completely invested in the fight for humane rehabilitation! This is a great step forward
This guy gets more unique streams than a lot of major networks combined and look at how the comments saying this interview changed how they view prisoners. Major news outlets have utterly failed.
I like how NBC titles this “youtuber” after very clearly on here saying “twitch streamer”
Unfortunately Twitch under utilizes it's engagement and isolates itself un like youtube
he also does youtube.
boomers understand the concept of youtuber better than twitch streamer
He started on RUclips.
most normal people don't even know what twitch is
The entire point of prison is supposed to be about rehabilitation. Glad to see members of the community help their fellow American citizens in their goal of reintegrating back into society after their sentences are over. These guys have done more for their community than most of us ever do for ours in our entire lives.
Prison is punitive.Jail, for waiting on sentencing. There are rehab programs in prison should they decide to participate.
It’s not the only reason! Some people can’t be rehabilitated and prison is their lifetime home, unfortunately.
This is slave labor. They’re getting paid almost nothing for risking their lives, and they only do it in order to be outside the jail and because any money is better than nothing. The worst part is that they won’t even be able to use this experience because ex-cons barely ever get hired as firefighters. This exploitation of inmates by corporations needs to end.
No it is NOT..... the entire point of prison to suffer the consequences of your actions and how you negatively affected others.'
Get out of here with your liberal BS.
You’d think prison would be about rehabilitation but that’s overwhelmingly a myth. There were far more programs in the past but those have mostly been gutted. Prisons are about punishment. Plain and simple.
Wouldn’t be wonderful if there was a direct pipeline to a career in Firefighting BEFORE they are caught up in the system as young men.
That’s reserved for my entitled Caucasian neighbors who live in a gated community and drive their lifted trucks 😂
Most entitled people in my neighborhood!
I think an important reform to the system is to allow these brave men a career opportunity AFTER they're released! They received necessary training and put in really hard work in dangerous conditions but then they're not even eligible to pursue a fire fighting career because of their criminal background! They have the experience and should be allowed those jobs! Eliminate the prohibition against felons who've been successfully rehabilitated!
your talking about DEI, that's a no-no...
That doesn't make enough money
These guys had been on a 24 hour shift up in the hills and mountains and was back in the staging area for a 24 hour break. The color of their hats represent what group of the prison population they come from I think. The guys in the red hats was imprisoned as youth offenders as far as I understood, and they hadn't had access to a shower in 4 days because their only shower had been taken from them by the civilian wildfire fighters who didn't want to share it with inmates or something. Luckily people from the Coachella Festival donated mobile showers to them so I think they got to take a shower that night, but the guy that spoke about it was scared of being kicked off the program for saying something.
No sleeping gear?! Come on California leadership the world is watching?
More than watching, it's 𝘀𝗰𝗿𝘂𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗶𝘇𝗶𝗻𝗴 actually 😂..
they should have snuggies and hot cocoa!
and apartments and beds and touring busses
@@Joe-sg9llThey should absolutely have beds 🙄
Actions have consequences. Criminals aren't victims.
the world already knows what the US is. So no worries there.
Thank you Hasan for giving these brave heroes a voice.
Brave heroes? They’re criminals who do the bare minimum. Thank the actual fire department for getting up close and risking their lives
it also looks like talking to these prisoners never crossed the mind of any of those "real" so-called journalists.
MSM rather build emotional pieces around rich land/capital owners. They focused on some "regular folk", but not the incarcerated. Good for them for at least changing their tune (slightly)
The interviewer actually mentioned that when they had talked to inmate firefighters that they were not able to get the same openness as Hassan was able to- and likely for a variety of reasons
@@jessicamaymatheson oh, really? Interesting. Hasan being Turkish made the difference imo.
To be fair, corporate media answer to their shareholders, who don't care about real people unless it's exploitable/profitable. As a rule, prison rehabilitation programs typically aren't sensational enough for the evening news.
@@G_N_A_N NO!, Hasan partnered with the project run by recidivism activist Scott Budnick.
But Fire Department won't hire them after their released.
That part.
that's a serious problem and needs fixed.
Not true
@@megaman2596Yes it is absolutely true. Look into the hiring policies of the LAFD
My dad was an incarcerated Cal firefighter decades ago, and he was grateful for the experience. It gives people dignity and self worth which they’re often deprived of in prison. The prison system should be much more about this kind of rehabilitation. ❤
Yes, giving back to the community and being useful is such a positive for any human being but especially important for people who are incarcerated.
Is it easy to find jobs in fire department?
@@Go4Broke247 You don’t qualify imo !
@@ari7610 and then he couldn’t become a firefighter after, how very fair
These inmates are getting paid below the federal minimum wage of $7.25/h but PER DAY. Wage slavery is alive and well.
The US constitution has an amendment abolishing slavery EXCEPT as punishment for a crime
"thanks so much for being with you"
accidentally accurate
I wish more Americans could look to other nations like Norway that center and implement rehabilitation instead of pure, draconian punishment. Our current society and laws give in to our worst instincts which have resulted in America having 25% of the WORLD's incarcerated population. Specifically, Californians are inundated with crime panic propaganda at a time when crime is declining. We need to be more empathetic to our fellow countryman of all walks of life.
We have way too much diversity for that program.
Local prison had workshop programs. They made some great high-quality furniture for Wal-Mart prices, and local politicians said it was slavery. So program was shut down
But then the industrialized prison complex won’t be able to line their pockets with money from repeat offenders.
@@jamalwilburn228IF THEY PAY SLAVERY SALARIES LIKE THIS … NO WONDER.
@@jamalwilburn228 if they were hand making it and selkling it as cheap as mass produced stuff from over seas they were 100% doing slavery wages they should have just paid them more in stead of stopping it
As a Monterey County resident on the Central Coast of California, I've known for decades the value of incarcerated fire crews. We need to ensure appropriate wages and ensure career pathways after release.
Can we talk about the inhumane FOR-PROFIT PRISON SYSTEM? They can't support rehabilitation; it hurts their bottom lines. They want repeat offenders.
Firefighters are not for profit. They're all nonprofit agencies across the country. This is a state program.
@@geeemm8028 Can I ask if the prisoners have ever had their labour used to keep scrub and bush land from accumulating? The prisoners appeared glad and relieved to be helping positively locally. It’s appears non sensical only to utilise their numbers and skills during fires. Surely their labour could also help ensure future fires are kept at a minimum by them clearing scrub and bush regularly.
Working/Labour gives people self worth. Prisons are supposed to be about rehabilitation and second chances.
@ Once accepted into the program, the incarcerated firefighters are moved out of prisons and are housed at fire camps throughout the state where they live, continue training, and community service. I don’t know what exactly they do in terms of forest maintenance.
There is an American drama tv show “Fire Country” which is centered around an incarcerated fire camp. Forty episodes so far, but I only watched maybe the first two or three and don’t recall what they do in their off time. I will definitely watch it again.
@@rebthirteen8012according to the interviews Hasan had, they do do that
Well done Hasan! Thank you for sharing your platform and giving these men a voice
I like how people are like "Prison Labor good" - "They deserve to be in horrible conditions."
Then turn around and try and tell you Gulags are bad.
Capitalist Programming.
10 dollars a day? Honestly People should be more human, and review their sentences, they did wrong but they are human, and have the ability to change.
They shouldn't get anything. The air from outside of the prison is enough
@@user-wj8pi5bj3k Easy to say, we all make mistakes, only others make interesting mistakes, that put them behind bars.
Remember NO human being is perfect.
@@user-wj8pi5bj3k When your in the lowest point in life and feel hopeless I want you to keep that same attitude
they have no bills and dont need salary. $10 goes towards snacks.
who's paying for their prison food and lodging ?
Hasan! I appreciate this segment. Go watch his whole interview!
How?
@ellechance2344 ruclips.net/video/3LzipRhzK1c/видео.htmlsi=c1KAx0plFQhjobOO
This popped up on my RUclips feed. I’m from
The UK 🇬🇧 and have never heard of the incarcerated firefighters, or Hasan Piker.
Interesting broadcast!
Hasan is a very popular Twitch streamer who covers the news and politics mostly.
I feel weird whenever I encounter people who doesn't know who Hasan is. I thought he's like mainstream popular. I guess it makes me realize just how chronically online I am 😂😂
Glad to see Hasan getting more recognition in the media, his work is incredible and has inspired so many people. It is incredibly difficult to find someone with such a large platform who's ideas are based on compassion and care for others. Few have put in as much work as he has to make knowledge on politics and social issues accessible for all, especially through the noise of headlines and partisan debates. THANK YOU HASAN!! ❤
Hasan is the same guy that said “America deserved 9/11”
10$ a day and no sleeping gear is just cruel...
I’m sure the Kardashian Koven will step up & write big checks. They surely can afford it!
I love that inmates are helping- rehab to the best. They are people and deserve this program! So awesome and a beautiful thing
I agree. Well said❗️
That is an excellent program. Can you transform these prisons back into society? I'm showing them love let them know they are important they are somebody, and they have not been forgotten. Thank God!! This is amazing.❤
It’s not amazing, it’s abuse. They get paid almost nothing for risking their lives. Getting paid $5-$10 per day for firefighting is practically slave labor.
@@artloverivy indeed this should pay normal wage and should also have hazard pay. i don't care what your background is you should be paid for your labor.
Failed to mention that despite all their training and experience, their records will make them ineligible to be hired as firefighters upon release.
Thankfully, this actually is no longer true! Since 2020, people who partake in the firefighter program(s) while incarcerated have the opportunity to have their record expunged upon release to work for Cal Fire
I think if California is letting these inmates go out there and fight these fires and risk there lives. Then they should most definitely be getting paid better.. it shouldn't matter that they are prison inmates and because of that they don't get paid anything at all really. If they're out there risking dying by smoke inhalation or being literally burned alive. Then yall should be paying them the same amount that the other fire workers are being paid.
Hi chat!
lol I said the same thing!!!!
Wasup fellow Hasanabi heads!!
We're going mainstream again guys!!
lol, hey!
Hi fellow chatter reporting for duty.
I was an inmate in 1987, CDF California Department of Forestry/San Bernardino Fire Department. CDF trained us and it took aprox. 18 months, I took the Exam, passed and Certified by the State of California.....while I was in completing my sentence, got early release, went to see the Chief, he hired me as his ASST> Instructor...assign to Fire Fighter training, and medical training, I RE Certified all Fire fighters for 1st Responder..update. Ended up Fire Captain, Instructor, we are all retired now.....but 2nd chances are real.....I'm 1 of the few that made it full circle.....not many do.....most give up,
Incredible and needed perspective and interview. We’re grateful to see everyone’s compassion to these men. Easy to see they only need to feel like a valuable contribution to society and be on a team for good. Wishing all better opportunities ahead.
These are called Fire Camps, they are also a little more lax on security but they are less violent offenders, they even have female Fire Camps. The live in the camps under the Sheriffs watch, on off times they train, wash the trucks, etc. The camps are set up in the mountains so they are like little summer camps in peace and quiet. I agree with what he said, they don't want to go back to regular prison because the conditions are way better in the Fire Camps. They do their job, people shouldn't feel sorry for them, they are doing their community service and rehabilitating.
My Ex was in this fire camp about 10yrs ago. People should defiantly not feel bad for them. It’s WAY better in the fire camp than prison. They get open air visits for 1-2 hours. And you can bring them whatever food they like. They are actually doing something constructive with their time. My ex told me that they got fed steak and lobster when they would be out on fires. Also my cousins wife was in a non prison related fire program at the same place. (Not same time as my ex). And she said the prisoners were treated better and got more freedom then they did. These guys aren’t angels, and they probably did people really dirty to get there. It’s a good thing they are serving society. Because reality is, when they get out, they might not do more crimes. But they probably won’t better their lives either. Not because they can’t, but allot of them don’t want to.
@@xl4196your ex never informed you that most of them can’t get a firefighting job after even if they wanted 👌
Okay then pay them:
They are paid. Did you watch this video? @@ShizukaRose
@that.ll_do_pig you clearly didn't. They are paid $24 at the highest. And if you watch the whole interview, you'll find they are not paid additional for crisis/emergencies. On top of that they pretty much can't be hired as firefighters even with this experience.
Pay them correctly! They still have expenses they need to cover on a daily basis. They are doing the same work as any other firefighter. So as long as these private prisons are turning a profit they need to pay their workers accordingly just like any other business! Great interview.
the headline refers to a journalist doing actual journalism as a "RUclipsr," while the secondhand reporting on the reporting gets to call itself journalism because it's NBC?
God bless those inmates ❤❤
So if it wasn't for hasan they wouldn't even care
Y’all you’d be surprised what inmates have been trained for. There are even federal inmates that train service animals for people.
Pay the inmates more and treat them better!!!!!!
Actions have consequences. A person can't be disciplined if they're treated too well. They need to be taught right from wrong, through discipline.
@@FogRain123IN OUR COUNTRY … MANY CAN EVEN LEARN A PROFESSION … AND YES FOR FREE. WHEN THEY ARE FREE … THEY ARE A PART OF THE SOCIETY AGAIN … GET A SECOND CHANCE … AND YES … PAY TAXES.
@@FogRain123 not thats basically rehabilitation. We are not even talking about treating them well at this point their conditions are so bad it's just treating them like human beings
No… they’re criminals in prison for a reason. Pay the actual fire fighters better.
@@FogRain123there is absolutely zero research or evidence that supports what you say. In fact, the opposite is true.
Hope NBC gives the message to all the "inmates" firefighters that across the world everyone is saying Thank you and Bless you. We are sorry that you are being paid so low and hopefully you get some rest, be protected from the fire and get a lot of time taken off of your jail sentences. We the people(working class) appreciate your hard work. It is unfortunate that all the multi-millionaires don't set up a fund that will compensate each of you separately into your accounts, that would be a true gesture of appreciation as it is all their homes that are mostly affected. Believe the layman firefighters are paid $25 - 30/hr ($55,000/year) and you are working straight 24 hour shifts for many days.
Awesome to see this story getting covered!
10$ a day? and very dangerous
Some get 1 dollar a day.
NBC - why didn’t you play the part where they havnt showered for 5 days cause the normal fire fighters are discriminating them from using their shower… where Scott had to get Coachella to donate some shower trucks for these guys
Natural disasters always force people together. After it is over, people go back to fighting each other again, sadly.
Yup. It's almost like COVID was our big chance as humans to come together to support each other but it fractured us even worse.
I truly believe those who follow anything like politics or religion or celebrities are being manipulated by corporations and foreign hackers/bots. In 2016, we went to war online and never looked back. What happened was Russian/Iranian bots sparked online chaos very subtly and made us think our neighbors are our enemy. Small nudges and incendiary comments that set bad examples and give people toxic rhetoric. I'm not involved in social media much and I watched it all spiral downhill clear as day. I worry for our society because it seems we are crumbling as a species and we destroyed our home planet.
We are swirling the cosmic drain.
How likely is it for a former inmate that took the firefighter program will get a real chance at a career when released?
@Darkness23Light These inmates had excellent training at the worst fire disaster in California’s history ! They did well. I’m positive many will be accepted to further their training as professional Fire Fighters ! 👏💕
Yes, thats true. They actually gain employment opportunities with the state or federal agency upon following up when they are released.. @Jennifer-r2211
Prison instructor reform need across the country
Very well spoken
Wow 😮 thats incredibly insane and humbling to know that they want to help fight these fires 🔥 more power to them!
Why aren't they wearing masks? They should have sleeping gear. Much respect for them!
Great program🌹🌹
The inmates have LUNGS 🫁 just like the firefighters ! Please provide the inmates with professional masks, give them sleeping gear for a good nights rest, for Gawd’s sake ! We are ALL humans ❤️
Bless Hassan for his amazing job on shedding the light about these hero’s. Avid bless them and keep them safe ❤
Wow, that's amazing ❤ AMEN
THANKS GUYS!
😂😂😂 "youtuber"... actual twitch streamer doing in depth journalism
They are heroes helping fighting to put out the fire🙏🙏🙏
Hasan is SO well-spoken here (perfect Summary!) , and NBC did a fantastic job finding the greatest Sound-bite clips!!! (and Hasan and Caroline Kwan both look so young and sharp -- they look like 27 years old).
I was in the program, and they do give you a sleeping bag and the whole gear when you out fighting fires. Personally, those days were some of the best in my life.. most people treat you well. 2me, that's a good program that helps inmates a lot
@@cesarferrer1205 they did back then, they don’t anymore
This is incredible. I've never heard of it. I will look into this for Colorado. Our fires are worsening.
Give those guys a raise for Pete’s sake that’s ridiculous! Give them a raise! At the least
@@martini4203 in more recent comments it’s been said the fire fighter inmates were paid $24/hr.
Now they need professional firefighter masks!!
Next: sleeping equipment so they can have proper rest. Those two things are a MUST !
@@PQ_Mont2021 they do not get paid 24 dollars an hour please stop spreading misinformation. 24 dollars a day.
@ My mistake, $24/ day
Wow NBC finally did something good...
*Great work ! ! ! !*
Excellent raising awareness💕 Guys giving back to the community and making their lives better 💕
@@felichia808 Well said !👏
I see inmates without masks on. Is California going to foot the bill when they get lung cancer? I'm glad Hasan is bringing attention to this program but I cringed when he mentioned the prisons not having "real weights" as if that was a bad thing. They took weight benches out of prison for a reason.
The mask thing is a bid deal ! These men fighting the fire and smoke NEED masks❗️
I don't care how we find the money...every inmate that raised their hand, that stepped up should be given a presidential pardon and given a lifetime sustainable career as a wild fire fighter....evey last one of them! You are doing your service to your country! GOD BLESS YOU LL!
Umm no.
Amen! I think this needs to be done ASAP!
no way these guys are criminals in the end
@MapLambda So we're the criminals and murderers pardoned by war criminal Joe Biden.
@the1337contrarian These guys are probably alot less dangerous than the Jan 6th ~thugs~ being released ❤
God bless all those amazing inmates 🙏🙏🙏🙏
This program has been around for decades. I remember when a lot of inmates from the sierra conservation center came to copperopolis to fight a major fire up there. They were using tractors and bulldozers to make a fire line and putting out flames and so on. I went down to the fire line and gave them all a bunch of cold water bottles cause it was really hot that summer but they were some of the nicest people ive ever come across and am thankful for how hard they worked to save houses like mine.
Mention that these guys have to pay for their own phone calls! There is no or few computers to learn how to stay in touch with society or update skills.
Grossly underpaid
God Bless these Men!!!
We are very proud of them god bless them all for helping and risking their lives 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for covering this with information and education on the program. Much appreciated.
I'm not too familiar with rehabilitation programs, but from what I understand it's a very positive thing (for everyone). Glad it's helping them, those affected by these wildfires, and communities overall.
Some people want to continue their ill-intention trends in prison, and some do not. Based on the one interview with one of the inmate firefighters, it seems to be helpful in that manner. Those who want to change for the better get that opportunity, and those who want to stay in their ways stay imprisoned (and these firefighter inmstes can get away from it and can do great things).
Inmate crews are contributing, that is something I am Thankful for. Their pay may not equate to the normal cost of living, although they have received training, continue to make progress. Perhaps 🤔 a day will come and any “pay raise” should be given to them upon their release (to help their families or pending shelter). Fire retardant sleeping bags could be helpful. Ty for this program for inmate, I have always applauded these programs. There is a compound about 30 minutes on hills by our home, and I love having them there
Good program. Glad they can help. I am sure they are happy to be a part of something positive.
I THINK ITS GREAT. THEY GET AND HELP !!! AMAZING PROGRAM
IT IS MODERN SLAVERY …
This group of prisoners are HEROES!!! My respect to them, may god bless them 🙏
I appreciate this news program actually covering this and giving Hasan but more importantly the prisoner firefighters a platform.
Think about the few that are wrongfully convicted or are guilty by circumstancial evidence.
Where are the inmates mask's at?
Took them off because they busy with yo mama. Pass her around bro. Are you seriously asking about masks when you maga people complained about it 5 years ago?
Ask Karen “Budget Cuts” Bass.
Happy to see NBC sharing Hasan’s interview; I honestly never thought a mainstream media outlet would
A lots start from childhood
fr one of these guys said the love the get from the community was something they never had growing up and it was something they sought in the wrong places that eventually lead to prison
They called Hasan a RUclipsr in the title 😅😂😅😂😅😂 thats disrespectful
There's so much we need to up grade in California. Its truly mind boggling how backwards our state is. Church this is happening on your watch. We will be held accountable to GOD Almighty. No joke
Hassan abi expose California’s hypocrisy
thanks so much for being with you :') so touching
0:51
ooooooooh he got a cruuuuuuuuush!
$10 day can't work for csl fire when released ...Should stand down till policies are changed
This is news thank you.
Why can’t all the big networks cover stories this way?
These inmates firefighters are risking their own lives saving others. It may be some sort of redemption for them from debts they inflicted on society but they needed to be paid more, I think. In certain conditions, it will be a life changing prospect for some of them to get firefighting jobs.
One more time change the Constitution if you want it to end. Read it read ot and read ot again the 13th amendment.
Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Wow NBC put this out..
Impressive
I am glad they are training and learning something good. I hope they pay them better
"Thank you so much for being with you🤓"
That's my boy Hasan out there doing the real field work and journalism that the major networks should be doing.
NOT RUclipsR 😭
Rather go camp, help and earn some money than stay cooped up in prison. It’s basically the fire departments army. And to feel loved for doing it? Got my vote!
At the end they’re the same human being just like anyone else 😞
This interview deserves an award; more journalistic work needs to be done on this.
Beautiful
Such a sick society!!!🤮🤮🤮
Do more video articles like this. Stop doing all the Copaganda
Great job elevating this piece of journalism from Hasan, Gadi! The whole video is amazing.
I reluctantly give NBC props for paying attention and shining light on this important aspect of the fire situation in California. Hopefully they continue to promote good journalism.
WE GOING MAINSTREAMMMM
Sounds like a great program. Contributing to society, respect from the communities, a few bucks for the commissary etc, etc.
FYI the $24 a day mentioned is for a 24 hr shift of back-breaking work in dangerous conditions.
The inmates pay is the sum of daily rate plus $1 / hour payment during emergency. The highest pay is $10.24 + $24 =$34.24 for 24 hour shift. These are those who will leave prison soon so they have all the incentives to live and to stay healthy but they risk their life to save life and property.
That’s a nice zyn tower he has on that desk of his lol
Zyn 4 lyfe