Fokker Dr.I at WWI Dawn Patrol 2022 NMUSAF
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Video of Fokker Dr.I owner and pilot John Elliot flying during the WWI Dawn Patrol Rendezvous at the National Museum of the USAF on Oct 8, 2022. This video also includes an interview with vintage aircraft restorer and pilot Andrew King.
Produced by the National Museum of the USAF. Public Domain.
It’s amazing how far aviation has come in a hundred years or so, imagine Von Richthofen in a modern jet.
He would be even more scarier.
@@sihcakuo Yeah it would have been right up his alley, he famously hated dogfights, he'd be nerding out over weapons deployment more than anything else.
The thing is had the Baron survived the First World War chances are he'd have lived to the 1960's and might very well have gotten a ride in a F-4 Phantom. (The Phantom's got two seats.) Or at least one of the two seat jet trainers. I wonder what he'd have thought.
Eric Hartman flew the F-104 !
Almost the same amount of time (25 ish years) separates the DR.1 from the Mustang and the Mustang from the SR71
King knows his stuff, he and his father are legends in this area. Nice to see him online.
Most informative Triplane video I have ever seen, thanks!
My Gran Dad was a good friend of Jeremy Kemp from the Blue Max and when I was little he told me that George Peppard (who was a fighter pilot) took one of these for a flight and was white faced when he landed and said "never again"...I will go on to say that Jeremy was a splendid guy
You know, the Fokker Triplane may not be the greatest fighter plane ever built but it's certainly one of the coolest!
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 and the Sopwith Triplane! I like the Sopwith Dolphin also
Andrew the pilot said it handles very well.
😂😂 greatest during ww1..🇲🇼
@@Workerbee-zy5nx Not quite, but close. It's replacement, the Fokker D-VII, was even better than the Triplane was. So much so that the Allied Powers (France, Britain, and the United States) wanted ALL D-VII's surrendered to them as part of the armistice terms. Not that they didn't have some good fighter planes of their own but they REALLY wanted to get their hands on those Fokkers, they were THAT good.
According to the Red Baron, it climbs like a monkey!😂
This video sure reminds me of the movie "The Blue Max." Great video! 👍
I would be far more excited to see this aircraft at an airshow than yet another F-16 or F-18.
Great video love the DR1. It seems to me It must be very hard not to bounce a little on every landing with all that huge amount of lift on those 3 and a 1/2 wings. I would have been bouncing all the way down the runway and would have to do a couple of go arounds to get it to settle down on the ground. What an aircraft, she just wants to keep flying! That's what true flight is all about. Low and slow, those guys back then, when flying was new, had a lot of guts! It's great that your trying to preserve some of that to show the young people what it must have been like. Great job!!!
I never had a prob with it wanting to bounce on landing. The problem is roll out AFTER landing. I wants to lose directional control as the rudder blanks out because of the turbulence from the stabilizer and lower two wings. A very tricky airplane to fly and land. Not for the faint of heart!
@@chrisgrube-he1gr I'd ground loop it for sure lol. Did you ever see an episode of the series Dogfights, in which a German pilot... I cant remember his name, Werner Voss maybe? Took on 5 British SE5's in a DR1? He shot down a few of them and just skidded his plane around turning on a dime. They could hardly get off a shot without hitting each other. I bet you experienced that airborne, not so much on the ground lol. But even a bird is a little clumsy on the ground...but that's not what they're designed for. They're made for flight and so is the DR1 and it does it very well!! Take care of that bird!
I even met the real Pappy Boyington once during my flying years. No brag just fact lol. I always have to tell anybody that will listen lol. I just had to put that in there. Take care.
I suggest it is the most iconic aircraft ever built.
I've ridden BMW motorcycles for over 4 decades in All weather and his description of his flying outfits sounds very familiar. 😊🥶
One word! Wow!!
belleza de avión
This video makes me want to play Sabaton's "The Red Baron"!
I am surprised that there are so many modern materials and parts visable that destroy the illusion of sitting in a historical plane immediately.
Necessary for flying in modern airspace.
So with the modern add-ons of a Lycoming engine and instrument gauges along with the technical understanding of good balancing of the center of gravity, it can be made somewhat safe to fly...Like the details of showing of what was original and what is added later...
Safety is realtive. He said it was the nicest flying Fokker triplane he's ever flown. But...in comparison to modern airplanes they fly like crap. Most modern pilots wouldn't like flying one. The romance of flying one far exceeds the reality.
Oh, look. A red triplane. So original.
Su tamaño es original ? porque existen algunos en vuelo y en museos pero con una escala más pequeña
Can’t believe how these more than 100 years old planes still work on 2022
It is very likely not an original.
It’s a very nice replica
It's a replica. Built just a few years ago. Not 100.
Replica. Not original
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What was herioc in their fight? They were soldiers who did their duty because America entered a war that wasn't theirs to beginn with. Of course the German pilots were shooting at them and they killed each other, war you know. That doesn't make the Fokker Triplane less fascinating. Not everything is just about patriotism.
I didn't hear them say anything negative. Are you sure you're not being a little over sensitive?
@@LordHolley agreed. It's ridiculous how much the younger generation goes around looking to be outraged against everything except themselves.
Exactly.@@Plisken65
Sensative lil baby.. u want pampers love?
@@Plisken65the older generation too. Everyone is at it.
Went to Omaka, NZ, in 2013, and saw 7 of them in a mock dogfight. It was a hot day and I thought the DR1s were bouncing around a lot due to the extra lift they got from the thermals. The Camel was much more stable.😊
I think I need to spend a good part of a day to see the USAF Museum again since it's been 12 years since I last visited it. Lucky for me, I live near Dayton and can go anytime I want since I am finally retired. It's a good day for me, a military airplane follower that enjoys stuff like military planes.
Such a very special place and everything they do! Visited twice and need to return soon!
Nnnneeeeeeeeooooooowww---- daka-daka-daka-daka-daka-daka-daka-daka-daka............ :)
Wonderful! That ship just leaps in the air.
I just LOVE that the museum is so ACTIVE these last few years. Nothing like this was done when I was stationed there in the early 80s. Kudos to the group that makes this work !
Thanks so much, we are thrilled to continue telling the amazing stories!!!
I am glad I got to visit Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome before we moved from the east coast. It was a wonderful experience.
Ah yes, the Fokker Dr.I. The signature biplane of the Red Baron, king of the skies. May he rest in peace.
The funny thing is, the majority of his kills were done while he was flying an Albatros. They only remember this plane because its the one he was shot down in.
@@mageckman AND because the Triplane is much cooler looking than the Albatros! 🙂
Triplane.
Excellent coverage of an important part of the history of flight. Good to hear from someone with such experience. Thank you!
Ah, that was great! I’m in the process of building a small foam r/c Fokker, with plans for a larger one this summer and maybe a much larger one after that. It’s great that there are still people flying these beautiful aircraft, and even greater that we have cameras to record the event! I can just imagine the Red Baron adjusting his camera so he could get a selfie of himself and the British plane behind him trying to shoot him out of the sky! Thanks for posting!
beautiful machine!
I have to fly a sopwith or a fokker before I die!
If I owned that , I'd never be on the ground hahaha
Difficult airplane to fly. Not a relaxing experience. Like a nervous humming bird in the air. Always glad to have gotten back on the ground safely after every flight. Love the triplane for its looks, presence and history. But the romance doesn't match up with tbe reality of actual flight in the thing. Modern pilots pilots would be shocked at how unstable they are. Handling is more like a helicopter than a fixed wing aircraft.
@@chrisgrube-he1gr Still...I'd bloody love a go !
Sweet video, great photography, storytelling. Thanks!
It's definitely NOT pronounced Fo kur, dude.
God Bless Cole Palen
What scale?
60?!!? Just goes to show you that having fun keeps you young and flying a DrI would be hard to surpass.👍🏻
What an awesome plane…..wish there were more WWI replicas flying around. By far my favorite era of aviation.
Superbe
So nice !!!!
I'm very curious whether this can do slip turn or uncoordinated turn just like what werner voss did.
I did extensive testing to recreate that legendary maneuver. My conclusion is that either James McCudden was mistaken in his description of Voss's maneuver or that readers interpretation is mistaken. I was able with full left and right rudder deflection to get the triplane to easily swing 45 degrees either direction in level flight. It was a real job to get ut to turn 90 degrees, and very slow. No way was it going to slip 180 degrees! The design of the aircraft prevents that..mainly that slab sided fuselage and all that drag. I highly doubt a rotary engine would make much of a difference. I strongly feel that what McCudden witnessed was a shallow Hammerhead turn which most aerobatic aircraft can do easily, but the Triplane can do it rapidly because of it's very short fuselage and full flying rudder.
Beautiful Fokker! What a great display of the Knight's Cross! I can just see the Red Baron showcasing his skills! With all that wing area, it must be extremely manuverable.
Big drag penalty though
To protect the pilots in cold weather, they'd smear duck fat on their face.
Goose fat .
Beautiful plane, excellent presentation, so cool
Beeyooteeful
That was lovely. My father was a pilot, small planes. I always wanted to be one but failed at that dream, priorities I'd guess. I've taken a few "lessons" at the Hammond Louisiana Airport. One of m friends has the channel Randy Steven's. And he flys locally. His father and my dad would fly us boys around and it was fantastic!
Peter Jackson have two of these in his private collection in New Zealand. They are flyable replica.
Well, I’m jealous 😁👍🏻🇺🇸🍺🥃
Was that built using Ron Sands plans?
Yes
RED BARON PLANES 👍👍👍👍
Please Note as Americans often do, you are mangling the name, it’s not Foaker its pronounced like soccer thus Fokker.
Otherwise great content.
I think saying it correctly for Americans makes it too close to sounding like “Fucker” 😂
@@gj1234567899999, you said what I was going to say!
There's an old joke in there... Old WW1 pilot was telling his dogfighting storied to a young class at grand kid's school. Most scared moment he described as..." There was one Fokker (kids snicker) diving down on me, one Fokker (kids snicker) coming up under me in the blind spot and one Fokker (kids snicker) coming in on the left side. Fortunately, I was able to escape with a roll to the right and dive. The teacher then explained to the class that the enemies. plane was named after the designer, Anthony Fokker, and not what you were thinking Foker meant. The old pilot agreed with her, "Ja... and some of those Fokkers were Junkers..."
☠BLACK BARON☠1:46 ... what a pilot interface design in the cockpit at that age.
The Fokker triplane is nice, but I prefer the Fokker D VI which is a biplane which is the typical WWI aeroplane with the round engine and two wings.
A short reminder on the German Aces of WW1: Richthofen, Boelke, Voß, Loerzer, Loewenhardt, Schäfer, Udet, Osterkamp,......
Reproduction
.. no origonal left all bombed by allies (gearing private museum) during ww2
“Then this went on sale”
Where do you even buy a full functioning Fokker DR1? eBay? Wish?
(Honestly probably eBay, everything and everything is on it.)
Dont know to much about theme was told veary challenging to land especially...with cross winds...
However do enjoy the models in r/c versionby planes doing rollen corcles etc.
When I was about 8 or 9, I saw a Fokker triplane fly over a friend's house while playing baseball. I made my Mom take us to our small airport to see it. When we got there I saw a sign for the first airshow I went to. I don't know if it was an original plane or not. But from that point on, I was hooked. It's been a dream to fly one. I flew my first plane at 12 yoa for the first Aviation Merit badge for Boy Scouts in my state. But I never had the money for lessons.
Such a beautiful plane! What's the range? What's your rotation speed?
40-45ish? Never really had time to look at the airspeed during takeoff. To busy trying to keep the darn thing straight! Range - 1.5 hours. With additionak 30 min as a reserve. Max 2 hours before empty.
You know life sucks, when you have to fly the hours off in a Triplane. 😂🤣😅
I don't think the original ones had hydraulic brakes.
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Is the cell phone mount stock? 😂
Too much talk, not enough engine and prop sound. Sorry.
Anyone else notice the safety wire of the prop at 4:36?
I went to Rinebeck in the early 70s with my dad. Was awesome.
Have you flown a rotary powered Dr-1?
There's a nail stuck in the right tire!!!
revise the old designs as autonomous drones
Rotex engine and a tail wheel in a Fokker Triplane, seriously?
A real rotary engine IF you can find one will run you 60k approx. That's a lot of money for a piston engine. Tailwheel? Well..if you don't have a grass runway or you want to fly it to airshows you're going to have to settle for a tailwheel instead of a skid. Just like having to compromise with the engine unless you have 60k just laying around for a real rotary.
Cool video!
Outstanding!
Jacobs Grove
That's a nice fokker
Beautiful! Thanks!
Pronounced as fokker not fauker.
For future reference, it's pronounced "f*cker", beautiful replica! great to still see enthousiasm for it!
We don't pronounce it that way in the US for obvious reasons 😂
Fokker not Foker.The o as in dot.
Cool video & cool airplane!
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Hyperventilating
Its Dutch😁
Beautiful! 👍🏻
110年前の戦闘機😊
Let's also mention that the physical handling of this plane is going to be quite benign compared to the Oberusal made LeRhone copy's handling. The P-factor of the much larger slower turning propeller, and the gyroscopic precession of the rotary radial engine ( the Lycoming turns about 2200 rpm the Oberusal is about 1200...) To keep these planes flying, the Germans had a reward for any German pilot or soldier who manages to capture an intact working Entente LeRhone 9J rotary, of a case of Champagne.
Nope. Not benign. It's a handful. The Rotary makes it more challenging to fly. You are literally on the edge of your seat and at a high level of attention the entire flight. Not a relaxing flight. Flies more like a helicopter than a fixed wing aircraft.
@@chrisgrube-he1gr I was referring to the Lycoming boxer engine used in this replica as being more benign in handling. So yes of course the rotaries are all rather touchy because of the precession of a 270~+300 # mass of rapidly spinning aluminum and nickel steel mounted very close to the C/G.
The N8731R in the photograph is yellow-coloured.
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In the foreground: a De Havilland Tiger Moth.
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This is without a doubt the best video I have ever watched, I can't say exactly why but partly because of your love for the subject that comes across very well. my love for aircraft is there but I am sorely lacking in determination. I am ex R.C.A.F., 77 years old and still regret a decision I made at 19 years old at 1AFTS in Gimli, Manitoba.
Il telaio è come l'originale, o è l'originale, ma il motore non è l'originale del Fokker DR1, è un motore stellare rotativo, cosa che questo velivolo non ha.
Sry' She ain't turning/spraying Castor oil fumes.... 😛
Imagine flying that tiny plane with the original massive rotary engine. It probably flips over to one side if you pull up on the stick.
I forgot to ask, what are the wood (handles?) pieces that hang from the bottom wing, out at the ends?
To protect the wings when it ground loops.
@@chrisgrube-he1gr Thanks for your comment! (and bless you sir! I thought I would never find that out. I don’t think either of my
r/c models has that feature, now I can add it!)
They used to dogfight in these kitecrates. Amazing!
Beautiful machinery one million thumbs up to this channel
Lol I love how he mentioned north dakota lol it gets really cold here 😂
Forget cotton. Get yourself some good merino wool.
When I was 5 years old, my father told me to get a job. To date, I have had no dream of anything. I love the pilot loves living his dream. I would settle for just having a dream.
I told mine "my job is ballbusting , the pay stinks but I look gooooooood".
Applause for the videographer who did a fantastic job of capturing the entire process. And you built a beautiful bird.
Great work all around 👏🏻👏🏻
The didn't build it. Dana Narkunis out of Florida built it years ago..and I restored it to flying status. It was a death trap when I got it and terribly out of balance.
Curse you Red Baron!
Loved these since I was a kid
was für ein wunderschönes Flugzeug!