Taking the 8th Avenue subway uptown from 14th Street to behind Carnegie Hall in 1986
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2014
- Nelson Sullivan was a worked as a classical music consultant at the Joseph Patelson Music House behind Carnegie Hall. This is the route he took there from his townhouse in the Meatmarket and some of his associates at Patelson's
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Holy shit. Nelson captured so much more of NYC in the eighties than just gay nightlife. He worked at Paletson music store just across from Carnegie Hall. Joe Paletson his boss manning the camera, is absolute unicorn gold. What an incredible archive of history we have here. Simply amazing.
it really is. new york in the 80s is a time i romanticize a lot so i love watching these videos and feeling like i’m a part of the scene
Captures life as it really was then. Not like today. Nelson you are missed my friend. 🙏
7:57 "Why would you want to take pictures of this? " 30 years ago and now we can see the day in the life of working at the music shop.
I really hope that young man got the answer to his question.
@@nelsonsullivanhd9908
Somebody should have told him to close his eyes if he didn't like it. it's history
He really knew how to tell a story with his camera.
Two things are still the same: people bumrushing onto the train without letting the passengers off first. And scaffolding everywhere.
And people still wear clothes.
The subway looks just as unsanitary today as well. It's a dramatic difference between the NY subway and the Toronto TTC, which is so clean.
Don’t forget the damn noise!
@@timsummers870 Toronto doesn't have near the density of people that New York has.
@@JohnSmith-gq9gn It's no excuse to be filthy. I know both cities well and understand their difference in size but NY can do a much better job at cleaning their transit nonetheless.
Anyone ever think if Nelson Sullivan had lived he would've had the most poignant footage of September 11?
Oh ya!!!
I hadn’t thought about that, but that is a very good thought! He does live in the city, and by that time, he probably would have had a good camera.
I've thought about that, he'd be like 'I'm here now we are evacuating New York city because there's been a terrorist attack on the world trade centres both buildings oh shit I need to go back to the house and get Blackout and then we're gonna go on the ferries now getting out OMG... 😟"
Perhaps.
No
It's weird how the '80s is close enough to the present that it's relatable enough but at the same time distant. That will change as we continue through this century.
@Roger Com What the fuck is your problem?
@@blakemcnamara9105 lol what did he say? anyway yes. love showing my kids this stuff. like when i went to nyc as a 12 yr old, that was it. places like the bronx were very rough.
THIS is the New York I fell in love with. And no, much of it was not beautiful--especially a lot of the West side. But New York was fun and exciting in ways hardly retrievable today. And despite how dirty it was and how ghastly the subways were, we loved her all the same. I will forbear to comment on what the Meatpacking District has turned into; however, I will say--we sure used to have fun between those parked trucks on Sunday nights. ;) . And, oh, God! Patelson's--right behind Carnegie Hall. I can remember how it smelled--and what a pleasant, quiet, quintessentially New York place it was! And, of course, they had everything; or, could get it for you in a day or two.
@@peregrino9154 the purpose of what? demonstrating that I'm a responsible citizen and healthcare professional?
Surprised to associate NYC with quiet or quaint.
Two beautiful soul's shall live on forever. The soul of this store, where many famous musicians have congregated shall now have
Immortality thanks to Nelson, who shall also live on forever in the hearts and minds of thousands of people. 🙏💙
Not only were nelsons friends talented and soon to be famous, Patelsons was "the" place to buy music for musicians.
Interesting how his work associates were so aware of the camera and not comfortable, but his friends and his nightlife crew either were used to it or loved being on camera.
That was the real paradox of Nelson's collection. Most of the people he featured seem to love being caught on video- a kind of micro-celebrity- and then sometimes they seem to be annoyed at being recorded candidly and au naturel.
I could smell that subway station.
Even in Australia, the smell wouldn't be much different. Subways have that unique kind of smell.
now this is the nyc i grew up in.... ahhh memories
han hanzo hello fellow moonwalker
@@SusieSynth indeed!
Thank you for the time capsule.
These videos capture a period in time that would be forever lost if it were not for these videos. Just look at how grimy and REAL NYC was back then. It is a far cry from the sterile tourist trap it is today.
I agree, that's the same way I feel about my hometown Berlin. I just have to shake my head and giggle when people move here and gush about how "cool" and amazing this city is. I guess you people feel the same about NYC.
London is exactly the same. Developers have destroyed all the magic. It looks pretty, but it's no longer interesting.
the trains were hot and dirty in those days. Ugh! Do you REALLY want to go back to those days? I get it though. The West Village is not what it used to be. No more gay bars and diners, etc. It's all sterile looking stores and boutiques. Oh well, time marches on.
Dude everything including the train looks like it does in movies and cartoons where the subway is full of graffiti with newspaper strewn across the floor
NYC in the '70s and '80s was crime-ridden, dangerous, and a shithole! The city nearly went bankrupt in the former decade. I don't know why people romanticize the grime. Folks used to crack jokes about visiting NYC and hoping they don't get murdered. It's much safer now. Why is that a bad thing?
"Why would you wanna take pictures of me?"
Wonder what he would say if he knew tenthousands of people would watch that in the 2020ies. 😊
To think Joseph Patelson Music Store closed 23 years after this was taped.
Patelson's was a great store. Really nice staff.
Seriously the best depiction of the 80's hands down. You wouldn't believe it was a Paramount back lot at all, and Ru Paul looks amazing in your videos. He doesn't age. I love Nelson's voice too. Makes me want to follow him like a puppy. Have a great day love. 💋
I turned 20yrs. old 10 days later. My most favorite year!
That guy wearing a red shirt and glasses in the music store is just so cute
The sound of the subway brakes will never leave my brain.
you my friend are my link to the past..
I thank you.. Cant wait for more hidden gems from you from the NY that i know and love....
ahhhhh those were the days
The contrast of Classical music lovers vs the village Club kids!
I remember Patelson's. Used to go there to buy scores and an occasional record.
Its like he new times were going to drastically change so he recorded it all.
1:02 Gil Scott-Heron Saturday June 7 👍🏻
And to think the subway looks the same today!!!
Great vid,in 1986 I worked at 111 8th ave ,good memories for me and of the 80s ..thx for the vid
time machine capsules thx for the dose
No Cell phones! No Texting, back when life was so good.
Batesmotel1960 Says the guy that is on RUclips, and more than likely on his cell phone.
For sure that's exactly what people would have commented on this video if they saw it in 1986 - "Life is so good".
@@SatansFire Heil Satan!! LMFAO!! Too funny!!!
@@Charlesbjtown its Nelson Sullivan and he died in 1989. He lived and hung around with Rupaul and other NYC nightlife legends. He developed an style that he could hold his circa 89 vidioe camera. This July is the 30th anniversary of his death. He lived at 5 9th ave, in the meatpacking district of Manhattan, now very posh .
@@Charlesbjtown you just dont get it, do you? Smh
The New York City I knew in 1987. Thanks.
Thanks to share with us the emotions witch come from this vids!
It's was a time capsule journey on the underground!
Kiss from Napoli , Italy
At 2:00 when filming the underground he is panning and zooming out. Awesome!
A great historical time capsule of 80s NYC
excellent video!
Sometimes master poets are discovered after death. I think Nelson new exatly what he was doing...
I love these videos from Nelson. It is life in a time I lived.
Thank you for this!
Who would of thought 25-30+ years later people will blog for a living
just around the time the mets took the city.its i remember the week it was kinda of warm out.what a time...
Ask Bill Buckner.
It would be interesting to see the same route covered in video today.
Cherrelle with new edition concert @ 0:59!! Bet that concert was 🔥🔥.
Nice job 👍 I was 15.
I wonder if anyone today would understand what an intimate relationship with music Nelson would have had to have had to work at Patelson Music?
Look how traffic was flowing back then. Cars moving freely. Now it’s takes 20mins to move 2 blocks.
05:34
For anyone who is interested; that is the CitySpire (at 150 West 56th Street) under construction. Construction started the year before this video in 1985. Thank you for all your videos, Nelson.
-Devin
Store closed in 2009 after 89 years of operation
It's difficult to comprehend a music store before cassettes or CDs. It's all so brown. Reminds me of working in the microfilm dept of my college research library.
I've shopped for vinyl but always aware that it was second hand.
I remember around this time back in the day even the. MTA subways smelled much better than how it does now, that's just how I feel..
Everyone's so camera shy
cocogomez1987 ahh yes humility that’s what it looked like I almost forgot ;)
How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Take a lot of subways
Too bad they don’t have one of Nelson going to a Mall!
They do, two I believe. He went to the mall with RuPaul and another with his mom who bought him clothes
such a treasure trove.
lol the guy at 7:20 is my spirit animal
The simple days, with no phones/social media.. miss it.
30 years ago cool
can almost smell the subwys,,,such vicseral subwy shots
they still ike this? loud, shakey, clanky, scarey....
patelsons still there? hope so
'sabotage my heart'....bits n pieces, treasures
No. Closed a long time ago and the building has been demolished. 😕
Ahhh... the days when you had no money until you got that check cashed 😆
And now you don't until direct deposit kicks in. 🤣🤣
Real real real real real real real real real
I am a big fan of Nelson´s videos. I love the time travel quality of looking at everyday life 40 years ago. I visited New York City in the early1980s; and I am sorry to say this for all those who love New York City, but it seems ugly, overcrowded, noisy and squalid to me. Maybe it has gotten prettier since the 1980s. Nelson´s workplace seemed full of kindly people who liked him. It was nice to see all the smiles and good will from his friendly colleagues and boss.
I wish subway that flys cool
they closed the joint in 2009...
that same subway train is now on the F line. Nothing changed in that regard :)
Oh god, I'm homesick for a place that no longer exists. How I miss you 1980s NYC!
Somethings Just don't Change
That bus must have been brand new! No graffiti on it! Lol
Ahhh, the city so nice they named it twice, New York, New York!
Funny to think those buses are from the 60s!
No body was uptight then seeing someone video them. Now a days people will not like it and immediately think by doing so they will be on utube.
well they have a point
I guess because it was such a rare sight to see someone using a camera like this one back then
You really didn't watch any of the footage of him at work, did ya?
They weren't keen on it.
Was this Nelson's job, place where he worked ??
Yes
I'm from south africa and i was born 3 years and 5 months later on the 23 day
You missed out on quite a good decade.
It's exactly how I remember visiting Manhattan in the early 2000s as a teenager
2007 and beyond is a different story lol
There are still lots of places that live in the 80s without cellphones
Name one….. thought not.
I’m going to bed. I now live on a lake in Alabama and get bored and sleepy easily.
October 1986 and nobody wearing a Mets hat.
To all of the New Yorkers out there - what’s the main difference between New York in 1986 & New York in 2019 ?
New York was truly one of the very few big mega cities of the world, at this time Shanghai, Dubai were like small towns.
Mets still haven't won a World Series
@@tefllife2024 london?
5:19 she waved! she's gotta be someone's grandma today, let's find some of these ppl
Most of us don’t have the stalking gene x
Imagine there was a time when people hated being filmed.
It is still a thing.
How cool would it be to go back in time with a new type of camera
Crazy to think I was 4 months old
How is that crazy?
E train r46 subway car in 1986
Morning cutey. You and Blackout need play dates?
Omg hes that close to the subway train? nowadays you'd get pushed
Back when those sweet R46s were only 11 Years old!
Thanks for the video. It just goes to show you how SEGREGATED NYC was during this day.
And safer!!!!
Do look up Lahomma. She’s the only one who survived with her dignity. The rest of the gang will find excuses or blame others for their behavior.
New York looked so dilapidated in the late 1980s. It's still filthy in many areas today, especially the subway, but it's much better nowadays compared to three decades before.
@kyfaydfsoab he didn’t say it was hotter he said dilapidated
RUclipsr in the 80s...
..
NYC looks like a big sewer back then
and it was filled with the best people. artists, creatives. it may be clean now, but its filled with white privilege frat bros now. its so sad
Wow, I can post comments with my android but not on my desktop:(
Tom Lohre you ever get that straightened out?
@@Videocipher hahahaha
I was 2 waab
what do u think one of them would say if u said one day 35,000 people will see this lol
Would be crazy if that's Trump at 5:14.
Did they sell cds in 1986? 😯
No
Yes
If this video was filmed in 1986, and the use of double lleetteerrss was discontinued in 1985, then why does it still say LL, it should say L.
Mta was too lazy to change the signs, they still are
LoL 9:03
If Nelson knew what meat market look will look like in future he will be so disgusted.
Why?
NYC looked ruff and gay back in the day
its an honour to see these graffiti legends, like tracy168 on the subway trains
The people he worked with were NOT into Nelson's video hobby.
I do love Nelson. I do have to say in this video....he looks like a menace. His video skills not very welcome.
Interesting video however.