In the intro there's a straight line passing through a point of significance - yer heid! Sorry, I don't know this guys name but he should have a travel channel or something, he's good at this :)
I recon you’re right, Steve. This fellow might have the talent and personality to make a go of some sort of travel channel….but probably not as good as that guy Steve Marsh! 😉😆
I first read The Old Straight Track as a young man in the early 1970s and it struck a deep chord, felt familiar, completely convincing like something i already knew at some level of intuition. I kept that feeling for decades and spent countless hours with maps and old books , wandering the hills and villages of Sussex. Today, I'm no longer so sure, it;s the echo of a conviction from a past life, but I remember the effect it had on me, and it's nice to be reminded by your video. It made me look up a forgotten poem too - "The Old man's Road" by W. H. Auden, which seems to be in touch that same intuition. Check it out.
I first read The Old Straight Track in 1961! This year, in October, is the centenary of the publication of The Old Straight Track. I used to do a lot of drawing lines on maps and then following them up in the Surrey landscape in the early 1960s. It's all very interesting. We formed a club to plot them! Philip Heselton
Fascinating Scott, really enjoyed both the history and geography of this part of Scotland I have no knowledge of whatsoever coming from the Highlands. Really didn’t expect to see this kind of scenery in this part of Scotland, can we see more of this area either on this channel or your other well known channel please? I’m always looking at OS Maps, this video has made me want to go to Inverness library to find out about old roads and tracks. Thank you
Imagine my surprise when this video popped up on my feed and you didnt say, hello my names scott . I found this very interesting, im from down Helensburgh way and a long time viewer of the other channel where nothing could possibly go wrong. 😂
There is another stone further north towards the Napps dam outside Kilmacolm . Turn left at the dam onto a B road and under a disused raily bridge then a few hundred yards the stone is in view on the right hand side. This I think could be related to the old Roman Fort on the hill above Greenock and the Roman Fort between Kilmacolm and Port Glasgow .
Excellent video! Just a wee aside on the Clochodrick Stone, its said to mark the burial place of the renowned Briton King Rhydderick Hael of Strathclyde. Id be surprised if he was buried there but the stone is within his Kingdom and still bares his name.
The temple was a folly built by the laird for his wife apparently and it was used as a watchtower for the snobs to dine and watch the deer hunt. It wasn't covered in trees a hundred years ago. Have a look at the old maps.
Hello Scott - I didn't know of this channel! - - - The Clochodrick stone - it is unlikely to have been dropped just there by a glacier. The ice wouldn't have been carrying just one boulder - they usually had loads of them of various sizes, and when the glaciers retreated the stones dropped formed moraines. There is - as far as I can see - no moraine there. - - -
Scott it would be really interesting for to do a vlog on public bus companies working the paisley area in the 60's and 70's . Does anyone know the history of; Patons buses(blue and cream) Grahams buses (orange) , cunninghams buses (green), Western (red and cream), Mcgills (light red) and glasgow Corp (yellow and green). I used to get the patons double decker in early 70's from paisley to sheildhall , pure ice on windows and metal cladding INSIDE !!!!!
@derekferguson385 The story I heard was that the landowner's wife came from the Indian sub-continent, and he built a temple for her, hence the name. I couldn't find any evidence of this, though.
it seems the inconsequential landmarks are the most important. I don't think alignments of landmarks in order to stay on track is a false solution. thanks for the book recommendation
All of the Stone Henge stones are glacial erratics carried down south from Scotland. There are also many large areas close by to Stone Henge filled with much smaller stones of the same chemical composition.
The structure on the hill is most likely a dovecote, and yes, they were often quite grand and ornate and easily mistaken for fortifications, etc. I doubt if Howwood was forested 100 years ago, btw, try 1000.
Funnily enough, I just watched a video by Paul Whitewick, who also talked about laylines and joining points, and he used that book as a reference. Spooky that I watched them both in the past 2 weeks!! 😂
@@heatherdundas6200 if you search for “Glasgow’s Secret Geometry”, you will find references to this stuff and Harry Bell who did some work on it all. Be warned, it’s a somewhat creepy subject and you might find out things that you’d rather not have known about.
Alfred Watkin's book The Old Straight Track was the first to draw attention to a possibility of Ley Lines. I was hooked but lost faith when I realised the actual yardage that a pencil line width on a map meant a high level of error and the need for onsite plotting. I like Watkins emphasis on the landscape being wooded at the time of possible Ley Line development.
Climbed the Semple “ castle” when wd were kids , right up to the top of the walls . And Castle Walls and ancient hill fort isn’t to far away from where you started , probably less than 2 miles as a crow flies That stone on Semple hill as we called it we were kids , isn’t the same ad the local stone , the hill is made primarily of a kind of shale rock ( you’ll see it clearly on the other side of the road going towards Lochwinnoch) The guy who owned Castle walls committed suicide many years ago and the guy who ownes the 500 or so acres lives in bridge of weir Not far away from your end location there is another tree circle near the Whitehouse close to Caldwell house ruins “again” probably 2 miles by crow and maybe 3 by foot .
Folly theory. Soon as I saw it I thought Folly. Its got fancy cut stonemasonry. The ones I know like McCaigs or Calton Hill have that. They were often just job creation measures during famine. I would look into who owned the estate when it was a deer park. They might have been a responsible aristo.
While I completely agree about forcing alignments to prove a theory we should not ignore that navigating across country for trade and other purposes would require markers to guide travellers. We have GPS and compasses, reliable maps and road signs. Imagine crossing a wild landscape with scattered settlements on foot at a time when local people would only know a few miles from their home. It is no stretch to imagine prominent features becoming used as guides with stones being moved as intermediate signs and wells being dug for traders and drovers to water animals. As a route becomes established settlements or farms would appear nearby, churches on the marker hills may be built until what we see today gradually develops over the centuries or even millennia.
Hold on just a ticket .... Rusty Nails, Planes, Trains....and now this. Either way good stuff and thanks for the years of variated output (if that makes sense)
An interesting video but I'm not sure about the straight line theory. Would they have walked up and down hills and over other obstacles instead of just going around these features? I'll keep an open mind. Thanks for the video.
There is a foot print of ancient prehistoric people if you look hard enough in our modern landscape , the Serpents mound in skelmorlie, meigle is an old druid mound that is not protected by historic Scotland which is ridiculous considering its importance. There is only two such sights in Scotland ( Recognised) However I believe there is more and have located likely sights.
When the country was covered in woodland you wouldn't be able to see wells or a big stone never mind being able to walk in a straight line without a compass.
Being a Howwood resident, it's clear you did a load of walking to make this video! There's another tree circle not far from the one on your book cover, at Locherwood on the Lochwinnoch to Kilmacolm road.
There is info on ley lines that are around the area of howwood , kilbarchan and kilmacolm and im sure related to templar knights and molendinar burn in glasgow and rosslyn chapel , a line from perth down to glasgow , glasgow molendinar burn mostly built over now , i read all this years ago and was intrigued as there is a lot of history to the area , james renwick was a minister hung in edinburgh , the stories went on to include germans looking for the holy grail 🤷, no idea of the truth of that story , old inchinnan church supposedly linked to templar knights and st kentigren st mungo who was linked to merlin of king arthur times , hmm
The farms didn't work that way. They were rented from the estate. If they were successful maybe they would move to a better farm. All ends between 1920 and 50's break up of estates farmers bought the farm or two. Then one of the farm houses would go to ruin.
In the intro there's a straight line passing through a point of significance - yer heid! Sorry, I don't know this guys name but he should have a travel channel or something, he's good at this :)
I reckon he could find some straight lines for Trains, Planes and Everything.
I recon you’re right, Steve. This fellow might have the talent and personality to make a go of some sort of travel channel….but probably not as good as that guy Steve Marsh! 😉😆
Play nice Steve.its not difficult lol
A straight track would be handy for a Flixbus.
I first read The Old Straight Track as a young man in the early 1970s and it struck a deep chord, felt familiar, completely convincing like something i already knew at some level of intuition. I kept that feeling for decades and spent countless hours with maps and old books , wandering the hills and villages of Sussex. Today, I'm no longer so sure, it;s the echo of a conviction from a past life, but I remember the effect it had on me, and it's nice to be reminded by your video. It made me look up a forgotten poem too - "The Old man's Road" by W. H. Auden, which seems to be in touch that same intuition. Check it out.
Having looked at that follie many times when driving trains this video has been very enlightening. Keep it up Scott and Happy New Year!
I first read The Old Straight Track in 1961! This year, in October, is the centenary of the publication of The Old Straight Track. I used to do a lot of drawing lines on maps and then following them up in the Surrey landscape in the early 1960s. It's all very interesting. We formed a club to plot them! Philip Heselton
Fascinating Scott, really enjoyed both the history and geography of this part of Scotland I have no knowledge of whatsoever coming from the Highlands. Really didn’t expect to see this kind of scenery in this part of Scotland, can we see more of this area either on this channel or your other well known channel please? I’m always looking at OS Maps, this video has made me want to go to Inverness library to find out about old roads and tracks. Thank you
Just found you after following your other channel. Brilliant
Brilliant informative video. Great guy absolutely love this channel
Superb, Scott. Really enjoyed that.
Brilliant! I bought book second hand years ago. It teaches you to observe clues. I walk all over the Borders where ancestors left their mark.
As someone else said "The definition of a ley line is a straight line across the landscape connecting points of equal gullibility."
More Paisley videos please Scott. I visited Paisley a few months ago. More please.
Imagine my surprise when this video popped up on my feed and you didnt say, hello my names scott . I found this very interesting, im from down Helensburgh way and a long time viewer of the other channel where nothing could possibly go wrong. 😂
Fascinating!!!
There is another stone further north towards the Napps dam outside Kilmacolm . Turn left at the dam onto a B road and under a disused raily bridge then a few hundred yards the stone is in view on the right hand side. This I think could be related to the old Roman Fort on the hill above Greenock and the Roman Fort between Kilmacolm and Port Glasgow .
I LOVE this stuff!!❤
See you from Colombia, i read about it. Thanks for share.
Scott have seen Paul Whitewick video on Ley Lines. He made a Ley Line connecting Greggs.
Excellent video! Just a wee aside on the Clochodrick Stone, its said to mark the burial place of the renowned Briton King Rhydderick Hael of Strathclyde. Id be surprised if he was buried there but the stone is within his Kingdom and still bares his name.
I have a strong suspicion I know where his burial mound is
The temple was a folly built by the laird for his wife apparently and it was used as a watchtower for the snobs to dine and watch the deer hunt. It wasn't covered in trees a hundred years ago. Have a look at the old maps.
There's a great map on castle semple visitor centre that shows the estate.
Really interesting, thank you. And the 'Saddle Rock; looked like it had been deliberately 'flattened' on one side
Interesting 2nd channel Scott have subscribed 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
The Clochodrick Stone is what you call 'moraine': debris carried by a glacier. It's the same composition as hills a few miles away.
aye qway ye go! Afore ye know it you'll be in glengarnock telling us about a steelworks that made rail lines!! enjoy your walks:)
Hello Scott - I didn't know of this channel! - - - The Clochodrick stone - it is unlikely to have been dropped just there by a glacier. The ice wouldn't have been carrying just one boulder - they usually had loads of them of various sizes, and when the glaciers retreated the stones dropped formed moraines. There is - as far as I can see - no moraine there. - - -
Scott it would be really interesting for to do a vlog on public bus companies working the paisley area in the 60's and 70's . Does anyone know the history of;
Patons buses(blue and cream) Grahams buses (orange) , cunninghams buses (green), Western (red and cream), Mcgills (light red) and glasgow Corp (yellow and green).
I used to get the patons double decker in early 70's from paisley to sheildhall , pure ice on windows and metal cladding INSIDE !!!!!
First reaction “Oh has Scott changed the name of his channel now?” 😂
Walked up to that tower many times when i lived in Paisley. Most people called it The Temple.
I was told it was built to hold a wedding in by the landowner.
@derekferguson385 The story I heard was that the landowner's wife came from the Indian sub-continent, and he built a temple for her, hence the name. I couldn't find any evidence of this, though.
it seems the inconsequential landmarks are the most important. I don't think alignments of landmarks in order to stay on track is a false solution. thanks for the book recommendation
There was a battle just around castle semple on the lower gtound , cant remember who it was but some swords have been found in the area
All of the Stone Henge stones are glacial erratics carried down south from Scotland.
There are also many large areas close by to Stone Henge filled with much smaller stones of the same chemical composition.
The structure on the hill is most likely a dovecote, and yes, they were often quite grand and ornate and easily mistaken for fortifications, etc. I doubt if Howwood was forested 100 years ago, btw, try 1000.
It’s not a dovecote. It was built by the landowner to hold a wedding in.
@ lol. Did he march them up to the top of the hill and march them down again?
Is it possible if this line was continued north west it would come to the Roman fort behind Greenock? Lurg moor I think it’s called
Funnily enough, I just watched a video by Paul Whitewick, who also talked about laylines and joining points, and he used that book as a reference. Spooky that I watched them both in the past 2 weeks!! 😂
@@heatherdundas6200 if you search for “Glasgow’s Secret Geometry”, you will find references to this stuff and Harry Bell who did some work on it all. Be warned, it’s a somewhat creepy subject and you might find out things that you’d rather not have known about.
Alfred Watkin's book The Old Straight Track was the first to draw attention to a possibility of Ley Lines. I was hooked but lost faith when I realised the actual yardage that a pencil line width on a map meant a high level of error and the need for onsite plotting. I like Watkins emphasis on the landscape being wooded at the time of possible Ley Line development.
Climbed the Semple “ castle” when wd were kids , right up to the top of the walls .
And Castle Walls and ancient hill fort isn’t to far away from where you started , probably less than 2 miles as a crow flies
That stone on Semple hill as we called it we were kids , isn’t the same ad the local stone , the hill is made primarily of a kind of shale rock ( you’ll see it clearly on the other side of the road going towards Lochwinnoch)
The guy who owned Castle walls committed suicide many years ago and the guy who ownes the 500 or so acres lives in bridge of weir
Not far away from your end location there is another tree circle near the Whitehouse close to Caldwell house ruins “again” probably 2 miles by crow and maybe 3 by foot .
Folly theory. Soon as I saw it I thought Folly. Its got fancy cut stonemasonry. The ones I know like McCaigs or Calton Hill have that. They were often just job creation measures during famine. I would look into who owned the estate when it was a deer park. They might have been a responsible aristo.
Cows are big gentle beauties, they wont touch you, they might come over for a nosey but they wont intentionaly hurt you.
i come from Beith and we all know it as a folly which is justver a hundred years old
This is known as false discovery, you draw enough straight lines you're bound to find something that looks significant just by chance.
While I completely agree about forcing alignments to prove a theory we should not ignore that navigating across country for trade and other purposes would require markers to guide travellers. We have GPS and compasses, reliable maps and road signs. Imagine crossing a wild landscape with scattered settlements on foot at a time when local people would only know a few miles from their home. It is no stretch to imagine prominent features becoming used as guides with stones being moved as intermediate signs and wells being dug for traders and drovers to water animals. As a route becomes established settlements or farms would appear nearby, churches on the marker hills may be built until what we see today gradually develops over the centuries or even millennia.
Hold on just a ticket .... Rusty Nails, Planes, Trains....and now this. Either way good stuff and thanks for the years of variated output (if that makes sense)
Is this anything to do with lay lines? I didn't know you had another channel?
Where's my socks?
Your cracking the code - Thankyou - if you consider the summer solstice sunrise and winter solstice sun set things will open up
An interesting video but I'm not sure about the straight line theory. Would they have walked up and down hills and over other obstacles instead of just going around these features? I'll keep an open mind. Thanks for the video.
Renwick was a significant Covenanter and the last Covenanter to be executed in Grassmarket.
If Renwick was a preacher the hollow in the ground would hide the people there and act as a natural amphitheatre. Important in Covenanting times.
There is a foot print of ancient prehistoric people if you look hard enough in our modern landscape , the Serpents mound in skelmorlie, meigle is an old druid mound that is not protected by historic Scotland which is ridiculous considering its importance. There is only two such sights in Scotland ( Recognised) However I believe there is more and have located likely sights.
aka ley lines. Another good book is "Renfrewshire; A Scottish County's Hidden Past" by Derek Alexander and Gordon McCrae. Full of archaeological gems.
When the country was covered in woodland you wouldn't be able to see wells or a big stone never mind being able to walk in a straight line without a compass.
We’ve got a folly not dissimilar to that in Staffordshire called Mow Cop. Built in the 1750’s. So I think you’re not a million miles away.
These are known as Laylines or Leylines.
The Romans ignored many but also followed more.
Great stuff, I'd heard the Clochoderick Stone was messed about with and lost its rocking capability, probably those pesky Victorians...
Being a Howwood resident, it's clear you did a load of walking to make this video! There's another tree circle not far from the one on your book cover, at Locherwood on the Lochwinnoch to Kilmacolm road.
thay're know as "ley lines"
There is info on ley lines that are around the area of howwood , kilbarchan and kilmacolm and im sure related to templar knights and molendinar burn in glasgow and rosslyn chapel , a line from perth down to glasgow , glasgow molendinar burn mostly built over now , i read all this years ago and was intrigued as there is a lot of history to the area , james renwick was a minister hung in edinburgh , the stories went on to include germans looking for the holy grail 🤷, no idea of the truth of that story , old inchinnan church supposedly linked to templar knights and st kentigren st mungo who was linked to merlin of king arthur times , hmm
The folly was pre Victorian.
We know that and I’m certain he does too , it’s the location not the folly
I work near barnaigh and I know of another well.
A processional path to a sacred womb of a Goddess.
Do you mean lay lines
Walking towards roe bank walk another mile or 2 and yir at my hoose !
The cattle would have been more scared of you than you were of them. 😅
Superb. Get a drone x
Very similar folly in North Uist on Loch Scolpaig built in 1830.
The farms didn't work that way. They were rented from the estate. If they were successful maybe they would move to a better farm. All ends between 1920 and 50's break up of estates farmers bought the farm or two. Then one of the farm houses would go to ruin.
I told my kids it's shrecks hoose 😂
another channel? great bu why? i lake trains planes everything at about the same level as Steve marsh!
Have you listened to any Steven JD Bestie videos about all the alignments in Scotland and Britain as a whole as above so below 😊