Also, I love watching these videos as Pat seems like a really great guy with a lot of varied humour in him. I don't know when this was shot but he seems so sharp here. 73 was far too soon for him.
Being part Native American myself, I'm not ignorant of our bloody history, but the basic ideal that everyone has a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is a very noble construct. And for a short while we did in fact start moving in that direction. But when the president passes laws that declare US soil a battlefield and suspend habius corpus for anyone, even US citizens if they are suspected of terrorism, it's hard to be optimistic and have faith in the government at all.
Too bad public schools today do not teach about this. Ask anyone today if they knew that "Mr Miyagi" was actually forced into a camp based on his race, they will think ur crazy. BUT it did happen. This is a great example why we need to focus on LESS gov't control, no matter how much they say it "can" benefit" us. Who knows what the gov't can do with the power we give them in the future...
I so regret the many injustices to peaceable people by the government, and still ongoing. Thanks for staying and making a positive contribution to society. If justice is ever to predominate it must be forged by a moral populace; those at the top like control and wars too much.
It's funny and also scary when, on other forms, I talk about the possibility of the US government rounding up innocent civilians and putting them in camps, and they blow it off by asking "^What color is the sky in your world". Then I have to point them out to recent historical facts and people who remember them because they were there when it happened.
How is it... inaccurate? or misleading? It doesn't show any disrespect to the fact that Nazi concentration camps happened, nor does it lighten the gravity of any instances where groups of people have been discriminated against and concentrated into a setting. And, in fact, your implication that concentration camps can only be used to talk of "mass murder, etc." seems to lighten the gravity of the emotional effects that these families faced during/after the time.
I know it's already been said, and likely better, but to all those saying not to compare Nazi and American concentration camps: that's asinine! Locking up and moving an ethnic group based solely on fear and anger is what had happened in both cases. By denying a comparison you are privileging one over the other. No one's saying that those in Nazi camps didn't suffer atrocities, but to not allow even a comparison seems to mean that what the Japanese Americans went through is nothing. It's like saying someone losing $100,000 is nothing because they're not losing $1 billion. Both are tragedies that should never have happened. Hell, the less obvious tragedies might serve as better studies as most can see why genocide is wrong, but may still think destroying financial lives is nothing in comparison and not blink an eye at doing so.
There are some things in life that you cannot justify. Things that cannot be covered up by the plea of "in times of war". These actions are always wrong and unjust. For example how many German Americans were rounded up and how many Italians were rounded up. Not near as many as the Japanese Americans I suspect. To say that other countries did the same thing in the past is also not a valid excuse. The US government has admitted that this action was wrong both by legal and moral standards.
Those were actually initially British principles, as it was All of the Northern 'American' states, lead by the president at the time, Abraham Lincoln, who fought to free those people from that slavery.
Why did this happen? Why were Japanese-Americans treated this way during WW II? Just like that documentary "Zeitgeist". I hated that movie, "Unleashed" with/Jet Li and Morgan Freeman. Remember who were the Indian givers
yeah but both involved innocent people stripped of their rights, losing everything they owned and imprisoned against their will. Isn't that enough of a parallel?
Not nearly as many German and Italians were interned as Japanese. In response to the original question - I can only guess that the Japanese were much more easily identified than Germans and Italians, and also because Japan was regarded as the initial aggressor with the bombing of Pearl Harbor. On another note, there were more Japanese in Hawaii than any other state back then, and very few of them were interned, because doing so would have totally wrecked the island's economy. How convenient.
america is very proficient at interning, imprisoning or visiting inhumane treatment on, anyone whose ethnicity is different from the majority at the time. Native Americans, blacks, Japanese.
language is shaped by human experience. that phrase is almost exclusively used for the places of slavery and genocide created by the nazis. my neighbor told me about what she went through in Berkinau. I was intensely offended when he used that phrase and called up that image for what he went through in internment camps. don't get me wrong; internment camps were unjustified prisons created by racist men. that doesn't mean that what he went through was anything like what he implied by saying that.
Ask the average man on the street what a “concentration camp” is and they will talk of starvation, mass murder, and that it is a tool for genocide. They will talk of Nazi Germany and rarely of the Boer Wars. I understand that your definition of the term has history and Etymology behind it BUT that is not how words are defined. Describing the internment of the Japanese in America in WWII as a “concentration camp” is purposely misleading and inaccurate.
Of course, it is so very easy to criticize these measures by us, who didn't have to deal with this war. War is brutal, war is unfair and in war, you do whatever it takes to win. Were innocent people rounded up and locked? Yes. However, were japanese spies also rounded up and locked? Again, yes. Who knows how many lives this measure saved? It was necessary.
Consider logistics of where internment occurred. It was in approximation to navel ship yards and military bases that would first respond to any attack from Japan. It is terrible and it is morally wrong, but logically correct. It is not comparable to Nazi death camps. For the most part I don't even believe it was a race issue. We were at war with Japan and their citizens are classified into a race by popular opinion. German and Italian's were also forced into camps. Do we cry racism for them?
It'S funny hearing him talk perfect english since I grew up looking at Karate kid . Much respect for him ...
What a great guy to say "we Americans..." after what he and his family must have gone through during this time.
RIP to a great American entertainer!
R.I.P sir...oh my heart broke when i found out you died. I love you
Also, I love watching these videos as Pat seems like a really great guy with a lot of varied humour in him. I don't know when this was shot but he seems so sharp here. 73 was far too soon for him.
Being part Native American myself, I'm not ignorant of our bloody history, but the basic ideal that everyone has a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is a very noble construct. And for a short while we did in fact start moving in that direction. But when the president passes laws that declare US soil a battlefield and suspend habius corpus for anyone, even US citizens if they are suspected of terrorism, it's hard to be optimistic and have faith in the government at all.
my left ear enjoyed hes voice.
Too bad public schools today do not teach about this. Ask anyone today if they knew that "Mr Miyagi" was actually forced into a camp based on his race, they will think ur crazy. BUT it did happen. This is a great example why we need to focus on LESS gov't control, no matter how much they say it "can" benefit" us. Who knows what the gov't can do with the power we give them in the future...
I so regret the many injustices to peaceable people by the government, and still ongoing.
Thanks for staying and making a positive contribution to society. If justice is ever to predominate it must be forged by a moral populace; those at the top like control and wars too much.
I hope your country makes it up to you. You're a great actor, missed you on screen
love you pat rip sirxxx
It's certainly different hearing him talk in his normal voice. It's really cool to hear not-Mr.-Miyagi.
It's funny and also scary when, on other forms, I talk about the possibility of the US government rounding up innocent civilians and putting them in camps, and they blow it off by asking "^What color is the sky in your world". Then I have to point them out to recent historical facts and people who remember them because they were there when it happened.
Well, fuck me silly. I didn't know Pat sounded like this in real life.
I do
How is it... inaccurate? or misleading? It doesn't show any disrespect to the fact that Nazi concentration camps happened, nor does it lighten the gravity of any instances where groups of people have been discriminated against and concentrated into a setting. And, in fact, your implication that concentration camps can only be used to talk of "mass murder, etc." seems to lighten the gravity of the emotional effects that these families faced during/after the time.
I know it's already been said, and likely better, but to all those saying not to compare Nazi and American concentration camps: that's asinine! Locking up and moving an ethnic group based solely on fear and anger is what had happened in both cases. By denying a comparison you are privileging one over the other. No one's saying that those in Nazi camps didn't suffer atrocities, but to not allow even a comparison seems to mean that what the Japanese Americans went through is nothing. It's like saying someone losing $100,000 is nothing because they're not losing $1 billion. Both are tragedies that should never have happened. Hell, the less obvious tragedies might serve as better studies as most can see why genocide is wrong, but may still think destroying financial lives is nothing in comparison and not blink an eye at doing so.
Meanwhile, at Guantanamo Bay...
There are some things in life that you cannot justify. Things that cannot be covered up by the plea of "in times of war". These actions are always wrong and unjust. For example how many German Americans were rounded up and how many Italians were rounded up. Not near as many as the Japanese Americans I suspect. To say that other countries did the same thing in the past is also not a valid excuse. The US government has admitted that this action was wrong both by legal and moral standards.
Yes, Including 2 of the USA's most important soldiers... General Eisenhower and Admiral Nimitz
I assume he never went to Japan but here.
wacs on wacs off left to right:) be blessed always.
Those were actually initially British principles, as it was All of the Northern 'American' states, lead by the president at the time, Abraham Lincoln, who fought to free those people from that slavery.
Why did this happen? Why were Japanese-Americans treated this way during WW II? Just like that documentary "Zeitgeist". I hated that movie, "Unleashed" with/Jet Li and Morgan Freeman. Remember who were the Indian givers
Yes but the rest of the world was the same. I believe he's referring to the doctrines that made us different.
The Americans DID intern Italians and Germans along with the Japanese.
yeah but both involved innocent people stripped of their rights, losing everything they owned and imprisoned against their will. Isn't that enough of a parallel?
Not nearly as many German and Italians were interned as Japanese. In response to the original question - I can only guess that the Japanese were much more easily identified than Germans and Italians, and also because Japan was regarded as the initial aggressor with the bombing of Pearl Harbor. On another note, there were more Japanese in Hawaii than any other state back then, and very few of them were interned, because doing so would have totally wrecked the island's economy. How convenient.
NOOO MIYAGII, YOU MUST STAY IN CHARACTER
Shame on the administration
america is very proficient at interning, imprisoning or visiting inhumane treatment on, anyone whose ethnicity is different from the majority at the time. Native Americans, blacks, Japanese.
Nice try, but Abe signed the emancipation proclamation 30 years after the British Empire abolished slavery.
Michelle Malkin should watch this!!
language is shaped by human experience. that phrase is almost exclusively used for the places of slavery and genocide created by the nazis. my neighbor told me about what she went through in Berkinau. I was intensely offended when he used that phrase and called up that image for what he went through in internment camps. don't get me wrong; internment camps were unjustified prisons created by racist men. that doesn't mean that what he went through was anything like what he implied by saying that.
Why didn't Americans intern German and Italian citizens too then? Why single out the Japanese?
Ask the average man on the street what a “concentration camp” is and they will talk of starvation, mass murder, and that it is a tool for genocide. They will talk of Nazi Germany and rarely of the Boer Wars. I understand that your definition of the term has history and Etymology behind it BUT that is not how words are defined. Describing the internment of the Japanese in America in WWII as a “concentration camp” is purposely misleading and inaccurate.
Of course, it is so very easy to criticize these measures by us, who didn't have to deal with this war.
War is brutal, war is unfair and in war, you do whatever it takes to win. Were innocent people rounded up and locked? Yes. However, were japanese spies also rounded up and locked? Again, yes.
Who knows how many lives this measure saved? It was necessary.
Consider logistics of where internment occurred. It was in approximation to navel ship yards and military bases that would first respond to any attack from Japan. It is terrible and it is morally wrong, but logically correct. It is not comparable to Nazi death camps. For the most part I don't even believe it was a race issue. We were at war with Japan and their citizens are classified into a race by popular opinion. German and Italian's were also forced into camps. Do we cry racism for them?