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Yeah, it's so funny the do that. If you stop and think about it a bit, what is the actual benefit if aoe Q facet? 90% of times where you would hit more than 1 target, ideally at least several - is when you're gonna be farming. That's it. How often are you gonna have the enemy heroes stacked up in a 350 aoе? Almost never. The idea behind it is "a way to compensate for Visage's weakness vs multi unit heroes. Is it really gonna turn the fight around if you hit PL and start hitting him with maelstrom? Maybe very early into the game. But it's not the right solution for you anyway, it's just not your job. So basically what this facet does is helps you farm a bit faster This begs the question: Do you really want to play Visage around farming creeps and spend half the game doing it? Or do you want to get gold FOR FREE, IN HUGE AMOUNTS and win fights because the enemy cores cant always match your numbers, cuz they do need to farm? How is this not obvious is beyond my comprehension:)
Which pos do you play him? I actually found that visage is the most broken as a pos 4 or even 5. You have as much gpm as a core WITHOUT STEALING IT OR WASTING TIME when your team needs you, you crush early game fights and get xp fast enough, you get team items, you have great utility. Compare that to some warlock with brown boots stick at 10 minutes, while you have a full inventory and drums finished Bruh I actually feel like I'm cheating a bit playing him like this for tokens
Hey torte de lini, i was viewing your bloodseeker guide and I noticed you're picking passive first. Any reason for that when its just a movement speed buff, meanwhile bloodrite guarantees you a range creep?
@@deadwhal3 Pubs with luna have never been easier. They can pressure you as much as they want, you could easily go jungle and still poop 3 items in 20mins. Sf is indeed broken, but I personally preferred to magic build on him
hey torte de lini, gonna ask with the spirit wolf facet dont you think lycan carry is good in this patch because of not being touched or items not being nerfed, it scales strongly niche carries are the only thing he can't beat/dominate easily like illu heroes like pl naga and medusa who is countered by specific heroes being it a hard hero to use in general because of positioning its hard for it to be a good hero in this patch? offlane is good too with alpha wolves so it got me thinking its great for both carry and offlane in this patch
Nah, I don't think Lycan with Spirit Wolves facet is good. That said, Lycan Zoo with the first facet is strong. Here's a match where I literally never died: www.twitch.tv/videos/2271508276?t=1h43m18s
As a BS spammer, I would say then main issue is the reduced regen in the early levels with no option to level it it up. He used to be broken because he was a lane dominator. He is a great hero when you are ahead but really bad when enemy is ahead and grouping up and pushing objectives. You also have heros like Luna, Medusa, SF, Storm, Axe in the meta. These heroes are either stand and fight type of heroes or don't take damage from rupture (Storms zip). Also, heroes that were very reliant on BKB are struggling as that item got nerfed. Difficult to go HG with him as well :/ Not terrible, just not meta imo.
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@@TorteDeLini just be more emotional
@@tsoipidar I'm dead inside
@@TorteDeLini your not, just be positive bro
I feel you
Invoker with a couple of wraithbands and 2 - 3 levels of quas can out-trade most other midlaners. It is a freelane after that.
Hate this hero
you've gotten a lot better at making these since the first few vids i watched from you. Goodjob man
Thanks bro 🥰
Visage is still incredibly broken. Nearly everyone goes an incorrect build on him, and that's fine by me. I'm sitting with a 70% win rate
Yeah, it's so funny the do that. If you stop and think about it a bit, what is the actual benefit if aoe Q facet? 90% of times where you would hit more than 1 target, ideally at least several - is when you're gonna be farming. That's it. How often are you gonna have the enemy heroes stacked up in a 350 aoе? Almost never. The idea behind it is "a way to compensate for Visage's weakness vs multi unit heroes. Is it really gonna turn the fight around if you hit PL and start hitting him with maelstrom? Maybe very early into the game. But it's not the right solution for you anyway, it's just not your job. So basically what this facet does is helps you farm a bit faster
This begs the question: Do you really want to play Visage around farming creeps and spend half the game doing it? Or do you want to get gold FOR FREE, IN HUGE AMOUNTS and win fights because the enemy cores cant always match your numbers, cuz they do need to farm?
How is this not obvious is beyond my comprehension:)
Which pos do you play him? I actually found that visage is the most broken as a pos 4 or even 5. You have as much gpm as a core WITHOUT STEALING IT OR WASTING TIME when your team needs you, you crush early game fights and get xp fast enough, you get team items, you have great utility.
Compare that to some warlock with brown boots stick at 10 minutes, while you have a full inventory and drums finished
Bruh I actually feel like I'm cheating a bit playing him like this for tokens
Surprisingly, Phoenix offlane has felt insanely strong for a while. You absolutely screw over the ability to farm for any melee carry
Visage and BH on the same team to really stack gold a thing?
Hey torte de lini, i was viewing your bloodseeker guide and I noticed you're picking passive first. Any reason for that when its just a movement speed buff, meanwhile bloodrite guarantees you a range creep?
Lemme check and update
Sssshh about Shadow Demon. He's my main support if I'm pos 4/5. 😉
Are the previous meta supp heroes still good/decent? like treant, mirana
Treant yes, mirana nah
How about Lich? I'm 9WS Divine bracket. I just buy crest & drum game ends.
This. Lich's 2nd is fkg damn broken. Even paper would become steel if got buffed by lich's 2nd.
Waited for you to post best heroes to play this patch so I can go back to ranked ^^
Slight correction, lunar orbit only decreases damage with the other facet
Thanks
@TorteDeLini thank you. Your guides in the game helped me a lot with the all hero challenge. I'm about to finish it this week
@@Captaincapafew14 congrats!! 🥳🥳
As always. Just solid and informative.
Keep it up!
love u Torte
Great stuff. Do you consider Furion still broken?
Sir reporting in for duty.. frontline has suffered some casualties but we're confident we can defeat this evil youtube AI
Game needs a serious patch. This one didn’t do enough.
Sniper mid is always meta
best hero right now is techies. 100% win rate over 20 games in turbo!
The best hero is the hero that you play the best.
Which is always changing if you like to learn and improve :)
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Luna is super broken that it's not even funny anymore
lmao this is funny to hear, especially when there is a lot of heroes that counter her;
sf facet - this is what broken
@@deadwhal3 Pubs with luna have never been easier. They can pressure you as much as they want, you could easily go jungle and still poop 3 items in 20mins. Sf is indeed broken, but I personally preferred to magic build on him
I guess we should nerf cm then?
hey torte de lini, gonna ask with the spirit wolf facet dont you think lycan carry is good in this patch because of not being touched or items not being nerfed, it scales strongly niche carries are the only thing he can't beat/dominate easily like illu heroes like pl naga and medusa who is countered by specific heroes being it a hard hero to use in general because of positioning its hard for it to be a good hero in this patch? offlane is good too with alpha wolves so it got me thinking its great for both carry and offlane in this patch
Nah, I don't think Lycan with Spirit Wolves facet is good. That said, Lycan Zoo with the first facet is strong. Here's a match where I literally never died: www.twitch.tv/videos/2271508276?t=1h43m18s
Ty mr Tortilla
Cool video, subbed
BH pos4 is nahhh, dont pick it, it doesn't offer you much and your position 3 maybe a weak hero like sk in the lane and you're road to a loss
What about dk safe lane? Dude farms like a madman
Still good
I believe DK is disgusting after Armlet
Defeating Algorithm wooowowowwowowo
why is bs not a top meta hero..since his q no mana making it easier to farm?
As a BS spammer, I would say then main issue is the reduced regen in the early levels with no option to level it it up. He used to be broken because he was a lane dominator. He is a great hero when you are ahead but really bad when enemy is ahead and grouping up and pushing objectives. You also have heros like Luna, Medusa, SF, Storm, Axe in the meta. These heroes are either stand and fight type of heroes or don't take damage from rupture (Storms zip). Also, heroes that were very reliant on BKB are struggling as that item got nerfed. Difficult to go HG with him as well :/
Not terrible, just not meta imo.
@@jonathanweideman1143 nice tq
Medusa
1 trillion games and still 3.5kmmr
Nailed it
I play lycan offlane with alpha wolves, killing people when you're farming jungle is so so good
I've been on literal streaks with the standard Lycan build
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You noticed 😆
4000 games played
10 or so a week
2.2k mmr
For the algorithm!
Nerf CM
Lol leave my girl alone
bro speak louder pls some words are inaudible
Which parts? I think I can adjust them on youtube
@@TorteDeLiniit would help if you spoke like you were in a crowded restaurant. General tone was library quiet which made it hard to hear.
@@TorteDeLiniit may also help to stay closer to the mic.
There's a volume button bro. Just turn him up, he has a lovely voice
@@TorteDeLini I think he want's you to be emotional overall
First lol
bro stop eating your words
I'm very fat but also have some speech challenges that I've went to speech therapy for and am trying to improve
@@TorteDeLiniDon't rise to these trolls, your words are just fine. You're doing a great job and offer exceptional content. Don't change a thing! ❤
Thanks!