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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024
- People's National Party President Dr Peter Phillips and Jamaica Labour Party leader Andrew Holness faced off in a 90-minute debate on leadership issues. So, who won? Host Neville Graham polls Dr Maziki Thame, Dr Yonique Campbell, Danny Roberts and Dennis Chung.
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Peter Phillips won the debate tbh
I don't think so I really think the two parties were match with the skill and the "knowledge" of the party but remember the PNP has the more older ppl voting for him
Andrew Holness underestimated Dr. Philips a big mistake in the Art of War.
Yapppppp
After reading most of the comments the next administration need to work efficiently on educational system! Too much dunce people
Mr Phillips won, too much tracing from Andrew
Too highty tighty kmt.......every question him get......the first response is thank u for that question dervan that took a couple seconds from the 90 get to the point man🤦🏽♀
Jamaica must be the winner and not any individual or party
Peter Phillips presents a better performance with an incumbent Andrew Holness who seems Trumpish deceiver.
Shut up!!! From Portia Simpson days Peter Phillips divided his party and up until this day he can't fix it back much less fi fix a whole country. He needs to retire now and let someone else try.
Perfectly said. He got flustered because they dare to question him on real issues. I mean. how dare they try to style di clarks gad. He is a dictator, and if we are not careful, he will rule with an iron fist.
@@madgeleslie7538 Wow!! Madge Leslie, Sir P warn of such 87 mentality. Respect age regardless and I hope you retire from life instead of becoming old. Yuh need fi go a " Politics. Watch " class and learn self control. I only spoke about a one night presentation. Never dip mi finger yet.
PNP win the debate,no doubt in my mind, being unbiased and all that,
I think so too
Andrew Holness won based on facts and stats regarding comparative performance. Andrew fell flat on the NIDS question though and Peter fell flat on the women in senate question.
Peter Phillips fair and square. Shows how humility is a lethal weapon. One love Jamaica 🇯🇲
I will not sit here and say Andrew didn't do anything.....But Dr.Phillips is far more ready for this task....The PNP over the years has done great things for the country however ppl fail to acknowledge them...Andrew made some good points in his opening statement which will result in him winning the first round.....But Peter took control and say hey look this is what supposed and how it is to be done and I think Dr.Phillips won
PNP the world big time speech PNP experience said it all Mr Phillips is not a walk over
Aa that dem did think....Dr.Phillips came out and delivered he must be commended
Let see on sept3
Peter Phillips Kick een Andrew Baby Teeth! He made him look basic
It wasn't even close. Dr Phillips won easily. Let us be fair.
It not only that ino...All three political debates the whole PNP team portray leadership qualities that was expected....But the fact the Andrew Holness strayed his way from most of the questions...But Peter Answered every single one clearly. ...Both parties have experience especially Andrew because he's been the party president way before Peter so he could get much more done....so don't blame Peter
PM won straight
All mi afi say Dionne is a damn good journalist!
Talk truth .....
Straight
She's pnp and one sided who can she be good
Analysts is bias phillips done better.
Anju says he should have read more and was not prepared as Peter ...He know that the Debate is a deciding factor and from week it look like him siddung and a fret on what will happen Election night and nuh do him homework...he watched two Debates and still sit down and a play with him balls, before him go study.
Pnp Peter Phillips all the way
Jamaica need to WIN kmt.
The quality of the questions were very poor.
Agree
I just waste my time listening to the analys. THey expect miracles from the debaters but they themselves cant simply name a winner #spineless
The entire procedure was wrong. How can ask quality questions and expect quality answers from the debaters in a limited time. Makes no sense to me.
Andrew all the way
Holness, did not address the problem of corruption and thieving in his party
They brought it up....he just totally avoided it....Aa come nice up nice up...most a dem ppl yah talk bout JLP when them know the facts...But you know everyone is entitled to their own opinion
It was a good debate. The forum of the debate doesn't constitute elaboration. However it was very enjoyable and the JLP came with the victory
My Prime minister all the way. Vote JLP straight
Nope
You just don't want to say Phillips won.
Danny want say PNP win cause u just basically say it without saying it lol! But a true! U nuh partial. Bwoy Peter came out in this debate surprisingly.
Him better make sure him perform when him get it. 🧡✊🧡✊🧡✊ to the people lol
Danny is a pnp man
Peter is a seasoned politician
Peter take it big man thing
Peter did hold his own. So now in opposition or party leader he can show effectiveness. He can be PM but after his other term for Andrew. Can't have so many things in pipelines but not acting upon them. Let Andrew continue to do what he has in the pipeline and also whatever pnp had. Then after Andrew's second term he doesn't pass the batton to another party member. Vote him out no more decades in power or leadership. Pj use that opportunity to make Jamaica so heavily in debt.
Truth, pure truth. Nah watch how ppl afraid to say it. Thank God I watched it myself🧡🧡👊👊👊
@Ann Chang yes because Mrs Simpson Miller firstly went and borrowed from them and invited them over. If Jamaica would have taken tufton advice to eat what we grow and grow what we eat so many wouldn't be out here...
@Ann Chang you gonna have heart problems comes nx week Thursday evening 5 more year under your %$&&
@@jahmikes6609 whose advice about EAT WHAT U GROW AND GROW WHAT U EAT..WHOSE WAS IT SIR ...I AM VERY YOUNG TO THIS BUT THOUGHT THAT WAS MANLEY'S MANTRA...
Andrew u make Phillip draw u out after a u have the title bredda ...u a leader or follower... y election in this time of crisis ... y never early next year if things change for better....mi lose affa you
Peter phillips done better than andrew holness.
A what happen to them pnp yah man Unu bleed
Phillips was asked softer questions.
Andrew was asked tough questions but he passed with distinction. Andrew was far more sincere in asking the people of Jamaica to relected his government who delivered and not just promise
It’s his ability to gaslight. Don’t confuse that with sincerity. There nothing sincere about lying.
Idiot come off the page
Both parties face corruption, however the JLP deals with ot and allows the law to work, the PNP cover it up and somehow they always come out 'innocent'
Idiot come off the page
@@gregorycampbell6514 u come off the page ediot
How so may I ask, nothing has been done to Ruel Reid, Andrew Wheatley or J.C. Hutchinson to name a few. Please bear in mind that two of the three above mentioned are running in this current election.
@@gregorycampbell6514 wen the truth it yu feel no pain ja not pnp country no more uno fi gweh wid uno bush life
The 90 seconds simply not enough.
No details can be explained...
I agree
Can non speakers judge. debates?
It is clear that anderw won am not a politics person but i listen the debate
Jlp straight,love u holness
Peter won
I think the history lesson is particularly important for young people. Because young people vote based on patriotism and not policies and logics
True real talk
PM Andrew Holness did well in the debate n he has done excellently for the four years at the helm....trying to catch up for the 18 years of NOTHINGNESS from the PNP
This is nonsense that 18.5 yrs ended 13 yrs ago the Jlp have had 9 of the 13 yrs all you people do is find excuse
U cannot expect more from the debaters when the questions were coined and lack of time for answers
Of a true fact everyone think a Holness was going walk over Mr Philips but Phillip dealt with him good giving Peter the win
Ann Chang yeah he did
Big time....All 5 JLP debaters are childish with name calling...And up to now the PNP doesn't reply...Dr . Phillips didn't argue he said what is to be said and he should be elected ❌🙎
@@seonsopinion6779 🧡✊🧡✊🧡✊lol
@Ann Chang ✊🧡✊🧡✊🧡lol
A true 🧡✊🧡✊🧡✊lol
How can you make judgement without fact checking. “Outside of fact checking?” It’s not okay to give false and misleading information and just by speaking in a certain way, you’re given points.
My prime minister Andrew holness has won congrats to my pm💚💚💚💚💚
PNP WON
Peter was good I was proud of him 👊👊👊💥💥💥👊👊
Peter whooped conju into submission. Mi feel seh conju nuh sleep last night. Rule number one: NEVER EVER underestimate ur opponent. Prowess and substance over hype n Clarks.
What substance? Free tablets
I agree with you
@@hughporter2541 don't start...voice your own opinion sir
Same Suh
@Blessings Godfrey He thought that this is the Jamaica House press briefing...He conceded defeat saying he should have read more . Never Underestimate your opponent Andrew ...you watched social media and see how the castigate Peter and you believe that you will just finish him off .
Peter was pretending like him just a come into politics . He has gotten his chance . Andrew will continue with prosperity
U wish poor performance pm, Peter we say 🧡✊🧡✊🧡✊ to the world lol
Even his own people in his circle don’t appreciate his leadership
@@raggaguru3432 stay deh with d old stories n dnt see that PNP now United n ready. That is JLP weakness. U see the thing is PNP DNT want one man calling the shots n all the experienced ppl without portfolio n all the thieves n everyone else in the OPM. Is not a dictatorship this. Teamwork makes the dreamwork.
Brilliant ideas like rent to own come about when u allow your team members to use their talents.
@Blessings Godfrey Pnp all the way Well done Mr Phillips 3september will answer the real question
I hope is Mr Holiness won
How can Jamaicans trust Andrew a joke ting dis....people don't be fooled all the roads work he's talking about wasn't done by the JLP. Look at the facts people too much corruptions under Andrew with no accountability. Wait a di new Chinese road dem a fool wi....look weh crime (murder) reach, record high. TBT i need so more clarity on how Peter plan on fulfilling his stimulus plan. Short answer PNP won the debate
The Gleaner is clearly a PNP supporter and the panel is lame and disingenuous in their critic. Let's help them out - the JLP provided roads to some communities which have not had roads for over 30 years under the PNP. Just on that alone they should be re-elected because roads have improve the lives of the people in communities.
Only roads alone, Can roads alone help?
an those road it only take one night a continuous rain to mash it up forget it made by chinese fsh
Big up to Peter Phillips you got this 👍👊👊👊👊
Dr Peter Philips has certainly experience a miracle in in life....Leave politics...go SERVE ur Creator....GOD IS GOOD...SHALOM!!!!
All of us need to serve our creator not Dr Peter Phillips alone, because God is good to all of us.
ANDREW won
The most honourable Andrew won the debate. Mr Peter was repeating the policies that the government already doing.
Marcia Ha I totally agree with you
Andrew won this debate. Too many bias old political analysis..Dionne Jackson Miller should stick to her program on TV
Honestly I thought Andrew Holness would run circles around Dr. Phillips since he was younger and more experienced at Prime Ministerial debates. I was surprised for sharp and concise Peter Phillips was with his answers and rebuttals. I underestimated him ad I think Holness did as well,
Why should Andrew wasted time in the debate ?? Of course Andrew speak about achievements .
Andrew Holness the real big man won the debate
Andrew managing already. No to PNP
Clear law is DN DN Jackson she must shut her mouth
@Ann Chang this is a democratic country. I am free to my opinions
@Ann Chang it is time for you all to leave out that word you all forget what the PNP has done to this country from Paulwell, Azan outsmani Finsac to operation pride. Painpee will be in opposition for s very very very long time.
@Ann Chang DK Duncan, Michael Manley, Anthony Morgan and Natty Brown under the PNP. Go read your history. You are presently living in hell sister. RIP girl
@Blessings Godfrey so uno wa come tek now wid uno bruck hungry belly self pnp days over
Some six formers would have come up with a winner. Everybody going around the mulberry bush.
Dr Yonique Campbell was the best panellist.
You guys just love to chat....can you do his work?
Amen sister
They both. His chat 2 much we them a chatta box we need action
@Mega Views You sound like peter pay you to come an back him so me not keeping up your time
@Mega Views they got 18 yrs and in the end jamaica come out stagnant like dutty water all them do was made promise and andrew fulfil them if anything pnp should be saying thanks to the jlp
Bearing in mind the limitations of the debate structure on responses ect which all recognized, still not one of the panelist can give an answer to the question of who being the winner? I think this program was a waist of time.
No...way.... Phillips was confident he has nothing new to offer . Vote JLP papa tax go home
Are we in the positon to change leaders at this time when the world is on its head?
Debate or debate not jamaica labour party still going to take all of the seats,we need action not a bag a mouth and thats all pnp have,we Jamaican need to wise up and think who is best for the country,i want best for my kids he is providing houses education and remember education is the key to success,education is the key to ghetto out poverty,Andrew Holness is and still going to be the prime minister of Jamaica.
You are right, education is the key. You might want to capitalize on that as soon as possible.
Purple Phoenix 🤣🤣🤣
Real talk
Jlp dem a thief pnp all the way were is the prosprity wah dem a talk about and unu a die fi hungry jlp cant manage jamaica
Neither can Peter, him can't even fix up him party whey him divide up from Portia Simpson days much less fi run a whole country.
You fool nuh you nuh see how peter look hungry and him mouth raw like dwag
@@madgeleslie7538 wanna know facts.....PNP administration is one of the administration's that has the most educated and experience candidates ok....learn dat...so mine how ya talk
@@markclarke1284 And me know fhi sure him in a better position than you by far.....uno too disrespectful....Your pocket mussi fracture or yuh have something against the man....uno corrupt and ppl like uno can't make Jamaica a better place
@@seonsopinion6779 and you're saying this to say? This is exactly why they're so divided, too many bulls in a one pen, everybody wants the head. Wait Damion, Andre, Lisa and Bunting soon start a war fi de head again.
Philips gooo sittt down plz
I'm not impress with none of them because most of the projects the JLP is talking about is not unique the hope is a change of name the only
Cannot discuss questions in 90 minutes
Both did well but Holness has the edge, he had more impact especially his opening and closing.
Andrew Holiness
Peter won the debate Some people just been bias.
JLP won 💚💚
Andrew put this foot in his mouth back in 2011. Now he knows he can't say certain things thus he's trying to not use certain words as the reality is clear yet ppl doesn't want that. He meant well and for the chance to do well he has to take action in ways. Its sad good and decent is frowned upon. But bad and detrimental are hugged so tightly.
@Ann Chang can't u see ur the only pnp here chang u ago lose
@Ann Chang lol
Ann Chang 💚
@Ann Chang you still deh bout lol u lov u party sa but bro god nah lef uno either wi a bring uno wi just nah go trust uno
Jlp won
Dennis a grieve me! Didn't Andrew try n defend it to say they started but don't complete??? Then Peter show him up for the lie to say they gave Jamaicans 20000 houses.
Right!!!!.....Dr . Phillips showed him up and and speak about the PIOJ and what Andrew say WE WILL....after in his opening statement he said they provide over 20000....Both parties lie...But I think Peter was more prepared
Nia peter was super ashamed to know that under 4/12 yrs Andrew get so much done am a PNP but that’s my honest view
Jlp
The debate is rubbish I bet Peter say he will do what he didn't do all these years only Andrew has done well for short time that black man that is asking the question is a PNP
Didn't see the debate - were all the other panelists women, or were they all white people, bar 1?
Peter Phillips
What about him? He wants his pension too after helping pj and omar to put the country in so much debt?
@@jahmikes6609 not more than jlp no good for the poor an needie, PNP for the poor needs progress ✊🧡✊🧡✊🧡 lol
@@nia4087 how about instead of giving a man bread show him how to bake the bread. No pnp won't do that as if ppl move up they won't have anyone to love as they will be no poor.
@@jahmikes6609 If u go say things like me n u go stop reason. Did any of the proposals say it go happen without work? Look at the reality a man a dead fi hungyt literally. Don't u have to save him first then put him to work? But because most labourite officials DNT know what hungry feel like or see ppl they love go through it, they dnt understand the heart of the PNP towards these ppl
My ? Is I need to know wen can I be qualified for my house that I have been contributing for how long & still carnt get an apartment after paying tribute so long & wenever I call to get answer from NHT nobody give me any satisfaction ..
After 1 year .
Jermaine Delattibudiere yes I been contributing from 2009 & every time I came to Ja to sort out 1 of the houses that’s they building I was never successful to do so & I know ppl after me get theirs & let me know it some women they know there & she put it through for them so I really don’t know if u could give other information who directly I could talk wiv would be great thank u
I forgot to say this as well she paid money if that’s wat they are doing I will pay as well becuz I relieze that if u dont know anyone wen doing any form of business & pay to get it done u suffer out there
Visit the NHT office, it is a very simple process.
Jermaine Delattibudiere u still don’t get that wat I did every time I come to Ja it got to a point where I even wanted by wat I already contributed
Could we look at changing the format of the debate next time.
Philip won it to be honest
How so he did hold his own though. But the fact of the matter there after is who is willing to hold ppl accountable. Pnp is better in opposition to keep jlp in check. Pnp has operatives in all the ministry, thus as jlp steps out of line they knows and can relay to the people. If jlp is in opposition they won't be as privy
I don't really listen to "analyst" as most of them believe that the ordinary man can't analyze for themselves.Peter was out of his depth when it comes on to the digital age and also he just basically generalized on many issues.
September 3rd we will know who is the big man
Aq
@@carmenreid494 Excercise y'all votes
Reason why I can talk is because of experience....I lived in the constituency of the PM's wife and that lady favourtise in areas that supports her...That's not leadership...She also was missing for 3 1/2 years until now she's running back...that's not leadership....I'm now living in Dr.peter Phillips constituency and that man ensures that every sections of it is well taken care of
Stop lyingg
@@francinesatchell7319 since I'm lying state where
@@francinesatchell7319 if me did a lie him lose him seat longtime
@Blessings Godfrey thank you...Never say a better thing
Lie
I am still not clear on how the PNP is going to fund their give aways but I have more confidence in the Maths of Dr. Clarke to find the 30billion. I think finding 70b in a period of pandemic is stretching it a bit.
Peter Phillips won
The moderator is bias, he is looking for something to minimise Andrew Holness.
Those questions were geared back in the in the past we never needed that Dionne Jackson Miller is a disgrace to journalism.
You can't asset ones performance on one term the former government served for 181/2 years
Substance over hype....Experience and professionalism!!!Peter Phillips makes us proud.....Vote PNP......
You cannot vote fir clarkes...PNP all the way.
What is the substance for a government who was in power for over 23 years and run this country to a wreck which Peter Philip take part in I rather performance than stagnation
😂😂😂First of all Andrew lied...Dr.Phillips were ready and answered everything that come his way...I see someone saying Andrew got harder questions...However he didn't answered and so when Dr.Phillips got a chance to He did...Dr.Phillips rebuttals was great
As I said I rather performance than stagnation and public rhetoric this government performance for the 4years brings clear results Jamaican people tired of promises performance better to us the pnp didn't do that for the 23 years in power which Peter Philip take part in
No point on how can a low income earner own their own home, and when will minimum wages double as pm promise years ago.
Dr. Phillips is a far more educated person than Holness
And that goes a far way👍🏽
Melody brown the only way jlp take all the seats unless a pure dunce a vote but fortunately that ain't the case a lot of intelligent people will be heading to the polls so we will see
Right now pm can't manage we need a change
So the two women on this panel didn’t hear what Phillips said about women? Ok
What did he say?
Did he lie though? All gender studies research supports his point. Also, If you interview any female in leadership academic, professional, business or otherwise this is an issue one needs to contend with. I would have loved that he not only point out the obvious challenge, but make suggestions on how women could be aided so we can be better represented in government and other leadership positions.
Unfortunately that wont give the pnp the win on the 3rd
@@DOUBLEDTVUk agreed. But personally I doubt think this is the election that they should win either. Like the 2011 election I can't see how this win will benefit them. I said it then and I say it again: winning this election is akin to a bitter chalice. The victory will be a greater blow to them with Covid and its international impact about to show its head the next two years at least will be most difficult. Jamaicans will not appreciate the hardships that we are about to endure and will lay the blame squarely at the govts foot. If this crisis is not handled well the blame will be crippling for any government in power. I don't want this for the PNP.
i went to garmex i 1989 to do that same thing
Unno stop making excuses for Conju. Unno full of crap. Conju never answer any questions
What the past government dem did promise shouldn't be involving in the debate the debate is about who is present now
Right!!!Bout they didn't. ....in last night's debate every question that they asked the priminister him a point finger on Peter. ...like wasn't the question about him not peter
Exactly
PNP win
Speak yr mind an tel who won an stop e a hypocrite be real is like him say doctor an she a say make up uno mind people
A very close debate in terms of who won but I would give the edge to the PM for sticking to things acheived and ongoing. Blaming the government for the most part of things the PNP should have done 18years ago doesn't make Phillips or the PNP the winner. Overall the JLP won at least two of the debates while I give the others as a draw.
You mean things achieved like the 22, 000 houses they boasted about? The ones where he had to retract his statement? Wow.... You mean like how he admitted to finishing the projects of the previous govt? Keep in mind, HE ADMITTED TO IT. Hot air gives bellayache enuh.
@@紫のフェニックス81 continuity is good nothing wrong with that.
Peter Philips Won the Debate.
Some hypocrisy you pnp are
All the way Mr Phillips did great im proud to be a comrade
Mr Holness is going to be the better leader for us young people
I'm not PNP nor JLP but facts is facts, Peter Philips walked all over Andrew Holness.
Andrew Holness was rude/out of order and full of arrogance.