Use Lucifer In a Different Way! Much Better in Current Meta! - Summoners War
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Imagine having lucifer and zerath.
My only ld5 I have are those two lol
No need to imagine in my case LMAO
Imagine having those two LDs but didn't has Leo 😂😂
@@meliodaz0977 I got Leo after I pulled them 5 month later
very true hehe
This is definitely a very interesting take on luci. I won't be able to do that though since I have a very effiecient zerath but I need the crit lead unfortunately. But the rage leo is interesting too! Might do that!
IMO if you can outspeed with swift lucifer, then you can probably outspeed with some other cleave. In almost all of the cases presented it would just be better to run a lushen with adriana lead, this way leo will absolutely hit 5k when needed.
But this way you need to rune up different offs. By using a swift lucifer you can use one off with the best runes for everything.
@@1AndOnlyErbse This is not true, your leo will always be runed up the same, your lucifer will be runes just right for pvp and pve, your lushen will stay the same because you don't use him in outspeed cleaves, and your adriana can just be on swift. And believe me from experience, stuff that you can't hit this way will be easy to outspeed with any decent spd tuned team around a +210 tiana.
Lucifer passive is not just the atb increase, but also the Dmg increase, Which in my opinion is the big part
@@Seiishizo Does the damage increase really matter if you still have to put speed on him ? You sacrifice a lot of damage from his s2 to get that much speed. I may be wrong but I would tend to think the damage increase for your other units alone is not worth what you lose by not having him on a big rage set. Also, you expose yourself to res checks and you have no support unit to help with immunity or shield against psamathe (I agree that this last part does not apply on stuff that is absolutely not possible to lushen at all)
@@Alkhiman you're absolutely correct. you will miss out on the damage increase if you run swift lucifer. lucifer's passive damage increase isn't instant, you need to build it up by doing damage. for every 5k damage you deal (or take) your team gains 1% attack bar and (i believe) 5% damage (the damage caps at max 50%). so swift lucifer is an exceedingly shitty way to use lucifer because you're going to tickle the enemies and not trigger the damage boost before your main dd does damage
using contact-based AOE boosters is also a good way to trigger double nem units, juno revenge, and moore passive.
I was playing gemini first but he miss too much, that why i shifted to light robot to just pure dmg, but same problem with leo that why i started to build dot team and kaki etc, ill try this comp this rush.
how would u build a lucifer team with eludia? i am rocking Eludia Mephisto (on swift) leo & lucifer (slow on full dmg)
i'd keep it as you have it. i think its strong that way!
I usually use Water Vanilla Cookie triple fight, Luci rage fight, Leo vio and Lushen.... Hopefully one day I get Talisman or Hanwul 😅
Hey Seii, everyone keeps telling me to use wolyung leo x2 lushen, do you think that would actually work in this meta? Because I don’t. I have good runes, just want an opinion or maybe some recommendations on how to use woly in arena offense. Feels dumb as hell to have g2 rta but only g1 arena and I don’t wanna rush without a set team
just use it and see what you can hit with it. Build 1-3 teams so you can hit different stuff and you gucci
Hmm, never seen that off tbh. I think it can hit a bunch of things, but would have to skip quite some as well. personally i think if i would use wolyung i would Eshir wol Julie Lushen, and keep a second lushen runed. So you can also do 2x lushen.
@@Seiishizo ah I can probably do that thanks man
Wind witch 2a is a strip into def break, may work better than gemini even with attribute disadvantages and may crit Camilla more often but worth a try
yea gemini should work better
lol what? the reason why leo/luci works so well is because you can outspeed any comp. but if you use 19% spdlead + swift lucifer without leo hitting 5k damage you're going to be outsped by like pretty much every AD in g1+. and then you're basically going turn 2 bruiser
Yeah this is what happens when youre bored in this game
As you might see in the video, there are a lot of very Tanky bruiser defs with a 33 lead. These defs are a natural counter to Leo+lucifer cause your Leo might not hit enough. But a byung/Camilla etc. will still be outspeed quite easy by an swift lucifer. High spd defs with a chilling or Triton for example are squishy enough that the Leo will trigger the lucifer passive.
In conclusions, you will still turn 1 clear any spd def aswell as any byung/Camilla
Most of the G1 AD are Vanessa Byung Camilla +1. The +1 is what matters, if it's a swift Zen, Triton, or something, then yeah you will be outsped, but Leo will most likely be able to do 5k damage to zen or triton. Otherwise, your Luci will outspeed any bruiser comp.
@@1AndOnlyErbse Solution, get your leo on rage, the right damage artefacts, and adriana lead, you will hit 5k on byungchuls easy.
@@Alkhiman this, I currently finish g1 on my 30 day acc with luci eludia and it’s easier if you put +damage dealt on water/wind so leo hits 5k on camilla/dokaebbi, and pair it with an atk lead, I used to use Alicia but been having more success with zaiross as most bruiser units don’t have lot of atk ( sometimes hiting 60k on def break ). If they have shield it’s basically over though, unless enemy units derp
Believe me Come2us shadow nerf every ld4 before releasing it as HOH, mostly the ones that rely on rng.
hahaha who knows. Next video i use Gemini, its over performing. you will see soon ^.^
Try the leo/haegang combo vs camilla defs. Apply dot, crit camilla and she cleanses herself, thus haegang makes ur team play first, strip with haegang + def breaker like truffle + zerath clear.
thats a nice one! unless you 15check dot. but i like the idea
Yooo, this is good! I've been testing it and it's amazing. I used Galleon for def break because he doesn't touch the target so there's no risk of accidentally critting a Camilla.
Sooo u wanna tell me now i have to pull a Zerath...
Idk i like the lushen/luci ao, but im only chilling araound in c1-c3 and i dont do the sweaty g1 rushes. Also i have my luci on destroy in case any Byungchul survives the dmg that i do
man whats your team i dont know with who should i use luci i dont have Leo what u recomend me?
in that case i would also swift lucifer as in lucifer tiana gal Dmg dealer. and have lucifer as booster + dmg improver
you are Great seii, need advice if there is another way to use luci without leo pls.
yes, you can use him as dmg increaser and 20% atb booster. Lets say a Tiana galleon Dmg dealer Lucifer comp with lucifer on fastest set or something. or with chiwu if you need a spd lead
This thumbnail looks kinda familiar. Wonder why this seems to be so.
Drag abyss (hard); shiana, Raoq , Icaru, Astar, and Lucifer
Maybe you can use water pirate & tiana
Whats the hiest hiting skill aoe athack? You should do that us un experiment!
Is hard to say, depends on a lot of variables. but i think grogen/kaki are probably the highest
I have Zerath and used the Leo, Gemini, Kabilla, Zerath offense quite a lot and it is just really really bad. Shield sets completely f you over, you cant kill good Camillas (I am very far away from killing my own, even with +20% on water) and Wind fat guy which can both 1v4 you and your clean-up is horrible, so you just lose completely free attacks because of a single defbreak resist or gemini crit on Cami or just shield sets and everything takes forever to clean-up. There are so many better options out there, Zerath is almost completely useless in my opinion except for dungeon speedteams yet somehow people always want to tell me how great he is despite never having used him.
Yea shield sets make things difficult. would almost have to make gemini full dmg to overcome that?
I already use this team, just with Veronica or dark Ryu for shields lol
Yea shields can make things hard
For the algorithm
YOHO WHATS UP GUYS!
I love zerath so much. One of my Most wanted Mon🫶🏻
Just got him:)
Lol, some of this def can be cleared with adriana leo lucifer and lushen.
Camilla and the other dude just made this arena meta so stally and boring.
Just for science can you just try to show a lushen rush? Is it still possibile to use him with proper runes?
Would actually be an interesting try for a rush yea! I'll write it down
Light Chicken instead of Gemini?
only for defense break especially for Camilla and speed lead 😅
Would be OP with lucifer yea
Early gang assembly!
I have Talishman...he is great unit S3 kill any unit extra turn S2 all dead
Talisman is in my top 10 most wanted :P
Not the 189 damage zerath 😭
😂😂😂
XD
I recently pulled Luci and have been using him with Craig. Any good options for 4th slot other than Lushen?
Leah cp Poseidon maybe
I think lushen is the only option because you won't have defbreak i guess
My speed comp is Gemini, woonsa , talisman and CP
very nice comp, unless theres no will runes on the enemy haha
@@Seiishizo Ooo man, i hate those defenses... i don't understand why they are not using will, is not like woonsa is that popular and they are making the team special against it...
You can just use Kabilla instead of Lucifer if ur going swift luci
It boosts the damages by quite a lot tho, but the Léo is useless
The point of Leo in there is for versatility of the Cleave, you can run literally 1 AO for Byung Cami Meta and even Spd Defs like Psama Triton/Zen.
I actually run something similar already just with Talisman instead of Zerath.
The point is Luci boosts your damage by 50% and can actually deal damage unlike Kabilla who does nothing but boost.
You could, but lucifer is a big time dmg boost. kabilla isn't
Hey seishizo, if u want to do the perfect guide for this problem then try it on my acc, i have luci, eludia and Talisman😂
If ure interested let me know😊
Think we did talk on discord already right?
@@Seiishizo yea right its me
Lucifer is dead for the current meta (which is not going to change), you can't attack anyone from G1 onwards with him. He was a good unit back in the day but now, he is pretty much dog shit, I own him.
Wrong im cleaving with him in g3 rushhour but my ad sucks lol
Eludia, luci, Talisman and Leo and against psama defs im using mephisto instead of eludia
I still get G2-3 when i rush with lucifer it's just less op still good though
@@user-bu6tl7qz6z man, is leo the only Way to use luci? i dont have leo but i want to use Luci, help
The guy that owns this account started playing this and showed me a picture of him being rank 2 after like 15min when i logged off, Sure it was mid week and not end of rush. but i think its for sure is promising
P3 is easy with Adriana L, Lushen, Leo and Luci cleave, I pass Byunghole defs.
if your lushen has good enough runes you can just hit byungchuls.
my 2month old account gets g1 every week (EU) and I hit most byungchul defs. They only survive with 2+ shield sets or with pretty high -wind artifacts
But if I had to guess 70% of byungchuls die to my lushenand in most cases even if he survives its a fairly easy cleanup
@@dirtymightmusic5239 I skip them personally 2300 atk 220cd Lushen. 70d into the game. Need some good artis.