How To Find Land To Park Your Tiny House In Australia & How Much To Pay!
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Adam from Tiny Real Estate shares practical steps to help you find your dream piece of land to park your tiny house in Australia and gives you an idea of how much you can expect to pay for it.
The opportunity to live your dream lifestyle in as little as 6 months from now rather than the traditional strategy of working hard your entire life to maybe realise that dream at 65 is an idea that more and more people are beginning to consider.
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Councils really are a big part of the housing challenge in Oz, greater flexibility on what you can live in on your land needs to happen.
True dat!
Also agenda 2030 stipulates that no one will own property by 2030..... and you will be happy
I’m trying to do this. I can even buy my land outright but can’t
I’ve on it
@@aussiegrows8096 what do you mean you can't?
It's not just the rules and regulations that protect the building industry, it's the cost of the regulations that do nothing for anybody. Generally these items are part of wise building but often they are requested for sites as a matter of course rather than as obviously needed.. Bal fire rating, insulation rating, soil tests, perculation test, slope assessment, environment assessment, koala assessment etc etc. Each needing qualified and expensive consultants. Funny thing is we built and lived in homes for over a century with none of thedse rules and those houses are still standing
Thanks so much for this! I’m in the process of sending out letters to land owners. Could you make a video interviewing land owners? It would be really useful to hear their perspective on why they decided to take up the opportunity (with you, and other tiny house owners)
I have set one up in my back yard and the most difficult and expensive part is trying to connect to sewage, water and electricity. I found that most plumbers won’t touch it unless council has approved the sewer connection which potentially opens up a whole new can of worms! They also chew lots of power, especially if you run an electric water heater, air conditioning, electric cooktop etc. I used a plumber ‘friend’ to hook up the sewage as he trusts us not to dob him in if council comes knocking.
Hi Adam, That is a great little video. I am interested in starting a community specifically for people with tiny houses on wheels THoW's. In the course of my investigations I have been examining the existing legislation in NSW relating to living in caravans/THoW's on private land. I have discovered that the legal situation in NSW is that a person can only live in a THoW's on private land if:
1. the THoW's is attached to an existing house,
2. It is being used as a bedroom space only, and
3. the person in the tiny house is a member of the household to which the tiny house is attached.
There are two types of exemptions:
1. There is an temporary exemption if the person living in the caravan/THoW's is an owner builder who is building their own house, but even then there are time limitations mentioned they being one year. They have to apply to council for a permit to do this though.
2. A person can occupy a caravan/THoW's but not for more than two days at a time, and not for more than a total of 60 days in a twelve month period. There can only be a maximum of two caravans/THoW's on any one piece of land.
The only legal way to live in a THoW's where you are using it as an actual house is in a caravan park. If you live anywhere else you are at risk of being asked to move on by council as soon as a disgruntled neighbour or anyone else reports you to the local council authorities.
I have seen it said that the state legislation in NSW is echoed across Australia in other state and Territory jurisdictions. The conclusion I have come to is that I am going to need to apply for a caravan park planning permit to start the THoW's community I want to get going.
My advice to you is that you need to be cautioning people thinking of getting a THoW's about this legal issue. Many taking your advice are going to get a nasty shock when councils around Australia start hammering down on this and they find themselves with nowhere that they can legally live in their tiny house except in a caravan park.
Hi Bret, thanks so much for the comment. You raise a very valid point. It is a very valid concern for all tiny house owners and also those interested in building or buying one and it is why we are seeing a lot of great work being done around the country by the likes of Andrew, Lara & Greg from The Tiny House Company and also many others who are leading the way in making THOW more widely accepted.
It is worth noting that these rules that you mention in regards to what is allowed do vary from council to council and in some councils such as the Brisbane City Council for example, it is perfectly legal to reside in a caravan/tiny house on wheels. It would be great to see more people like yourself and many others address some of the issues with their local councils in an effort to introduce a better system for enabling tiny house living in a responsible and sustainable way so that everybody involved wins.
We are always totally transparent about letting people know that they are not legal in most situations and it is why I even created a RUclips video specifically about that.
Your THOW community sounds very interesting and I would love to learn more if and when you are ready to share some information about it. I'm sure many of our followers would love to hear about it to!
All the best Bret and thanks again for your comment.
Cheers Adam, If you go to have a look at the page Tiny House Intentional Community Australia you will see a handbook and a brochure in the files section discussing the process of establishing Lyonesse Tiny House Community. Here is a link: facebook.com/groups/tinycommune/?multi_permalinks=1931868386829452¬if_id=1509436996138654¬if_t=group_activity
BTW, from what I can understand Brisbane CC are about the only council who allow people to live in Tiny Houses On Wheels or caravans which are the same thing for all intents and purposes from a legal perspective. If you know of any others please let me know and I will pass the info on to people on the page I run. Feel free to call me on 0429 917 441
Cheers Brett!
@@bretfishley5206 Are you still looking at land? Can you start a "Caravan park" and then lease plots for THOW people? Is that a solution going forward do you think?
Great video. Thank you. Both my partner and I are in our fifties and run quite a hectic life with our own business etc. I have been researching the idea of downsizing and living a much simpler, stress free life. So glad to find an Aussie site with information relevant to us. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks so much Katie! It's a great option if a simple and stress free life is what you are chasing. Go for it! If you need help getting started with your design/plans or information, you know where to find us!
The biggest concerns council's have with THOW's is the waist disposal. You can't just pump it onto the ground. If you install a compositing system or a septic system and do it through council, you will have less of an issue living off-grid. You need to work WITH council not avoid them. That's when they get the sh@#ts.
Great video! We have 2700 acres of Malley tree farm up at Yallabatharra. This has given us an idea. Especially if people want to live near the coast of Kalbarri and Lucky Bay.
Did you end up hosting? That sounds amazing!
I'm so glad I found your channel. I written all of your advice down and will continue to watch your videos for you super helpful advice.
Thank you for the relevant info in Western Australia as I am beginning this whole way of life in the south west as well
So thank you
Thanks for sharing. Im thinking of doing the same. Y our advice is very helpful
I can’t believe anyone would let you stay on their land , here in Victoria they’ll tell you to F ..off .
It’s ridiculous that you can’t buy land and live on it if you keep it clean. You can’t do it here in vic ..30 night limits apply. Unless you have a building permit then you can stay for 18 months.
Come to Birchip in the Buloke Shire (Victoria), buy some cheap land and build your tiny house
The shire allows you to do so.
Hi Beldengi, that's great to know. Thanks for sharing! How did you find out that they allow it?
I had been living in a 10 sqm hut on my land for about 8 years before the Shire found out about me. They did not mind that it was tiny but they did mind that it had no toilet, bathroom, laundry or certificate of occupancy. That is when I realized that the size of the house did not matter, and having checked that with the shire I embarked on my new 33 sqm tiny house, fully legal. They were just glad to have another ratepayer in a struggling shire.
Hi great points well explained. U forgot about council approval which is crucial. If council won't agree you can't do anything and there is also law that don't allow to live permanently in caravans. How to go around that.
That was a great video Adam. You explained things really well. I hope you don't mind, but I shared your video in our facebook group because you answered a lot of the questions that people who want to live in tiny houses want to know. Thank you for taking the time to make it. :) Cheers Kerri
And now I'm going to Facebook to find you, haha.
Thanks so much Off the Grid in Oz Tiny Houses! Of course not. The more people we can inspire and help the better 😊
Are you going to do a follow up video to find a block of LAND to park that YOU own not RENT
Not at this stage Charlie. Just jump on realestate.com.au and search in the area you would like to park and i'm sure you will find something. The biggest thing to look for is privacy and also access to power and water. Good luck!
I know what you mean VRGamer87. I realised the same thing to when doing my research. Sometimes doing the things that you really want to do in life isn't easy but you just have to do them anyway...At least you can always move easily if someone decides to complain.
I would also be more interested in seeing this type of vid. If you own it you aren't going to get moved on when owner sells etc. Also wondering about the suggestions re waste, power, grey water etc (does not explain the solutions regarding these, I have no idea what I'm gonna do with all this, how do I explain to owners if I don't know myself)
Your video was very informative. Answered all my questions. Thank you
Thank you Adam, good way to start. This is my first site, I am planning to buy a tiny home in about 2 years time and a good way to start 'building' on my plan.
Really appreciate your helpful information, terrific and so helpful, gratitude from a couple of 50 something
year olds from Victoria that are keen to give it a go! :)
Thankyou there’s not much info around about parking costs. Access/clearance to the property would also be an important factor to consider. Type of road, tree/branch clearance etc, how steep.
Thank you!
Extremely helpful,thankyou so much
Hi Adam you were very ckever getting oast all the council requirements I would dearly love to do thus but am afraid of the councils thanks very much for great video
Excellent information. Thanks a lot for sharing. Exactly these question and answers you shared was in my mind. I am planning for a tiny house. Cheers.
Good stuff. Keep it up.
Thanks so much kikutaknight I really appreciate it 😊👍
Great info & format! Cheers for that 👍🏼
Thanks a lot Mel.M. Leolahi! I appreciate the feedback.
Thanks for the video. Such a hard decision to make with all the Perth restrictions. Especially when u want to buy land and live on it tiny and they tell you the house has to be bigger than a tiny house! What the? Should be able to build whatever you want.
Your very welcome Kate Kuma. It is a shame about all of the red tape as it can make it a tough decision to make. Hopefully the video gave you some food for thought.
Awesome video as always man! My wife and i love all your vids they are super helpful and informative. Defs going to have to pick your brain and get advice for our tiny build. Ill shoot you an email. Keep it up man!!
Thanks so much Ethan Corby that's very kind of you. Our team is always here and ready to help so get in touch when you are ready. We would love to help you and your wife! 👍
VERY helpful Adam. Thank you
Very helpful. Thx for this.
Good information from Ryan Reynolds lol.
Unfortunately it's not up to the landowners it's up to the councls. Councils can legally kick someone off a person's land whether they have given permission for that person to stay or not, it's not up to the landowners. 😢
Hi Adam.
I would like to buy a small land for a tiny house, before start planning the tiny house. Any suggestion?
Great video, thanks for the insight
Thank you for all of this information!
Thanks that was super informative... I'm a young family of 3, just bought a tiny house plan, and not sure where to begin. Can we buy land? And build our tiny home? Or would we have to park it on someone's land?
I just notice this was done 5 years ago! Are you still doing videos?
I think $80 per week(under $5000 per year) is reasonable. If you own apartment and paid off. the fees (strata & council)are more than that.
how much a tiny house cost? $50k or under will Be good. another idea is buy a house and rent out to cover mortage. park it in you own backyard
yes thank you very much!
Thanks alot! informative
Thank bro, It is very informative
Good video. Just on price..it would pay to mention options for barter or trade such as labour in exchange for rent.
HI THERE,I WANTED TO KNOW IF THE COUNCIL OF WOOLONGONG APROVES TINY HOMES. ON LAND OWNERS.THANKU
Great video thank you.. I'm thinking of moving tiny house and off the grid. Any thoughts on finding land inner suburbs? Or dealing with councils and regulations? Maybe your already have a video I just haven't seen 😂
Good luck in Canada. Like Australia housing is unaffordable and unattainable. Yet the idea of smaller homes and lots/ places to put them is just NOT ALLOWED. Find some place other than as a secondary home on a farm or cabin in woods on land you own( not practical for civilization mass housing solutions)
200 dollars a week, I'm guessing this is Australian dollars (I'm in Europe) really makes a tiny house not worth it. The equivalent of 250 a week would be the same as a mortgage for a medium sized apartment where I'm living (Belgium). So 200 a week seems a way overblown price for what's essentially just providing land and not much more.
exactly, it defeats the entire purpose of living in a tiny home off grid.
However, in Australia, or I should say Sydney, you won't be finding something for less than 1.000.000,00
Lucky you if you are only paying that much. In Australia, 200 per week does not really go anywhere much at all unless you live in the outback or a long away from facilities in bushlands.
@@hugodsa89 This is exactly why I'm looking at this idea.
Do we need any council specs or rules and regulations to build a tiny house Adam? Please share your experience. 😊 🙏
Why would I pay $200 to rent in my tiny home when I could get a full size home ready to move into for that sort of money where I live? Need a shed on top of the cost of the tiny home etc as well (more expense)
@K B"The idea is to buy the tiny house, and rent the land, not rent the tiny house." Do you mean that I can live in the tiny house and rent the land for other people, whilst I'm living in the tiny house?
just wonering if you are still living there for $80 a week?
Cool!
Thank you, really :)
How do you get rid of your waste?
Hi Leah Thomas, we take it to the local tip about once per week. If you had a property with bins though you could always negotiate with the owner to use them. I hope that helps 😊
Cool
can you do this video again without clicking that bloody pen. did my head in.
Hah, I didn't even notice
U can be a isiah maxwell
Building your house on someone else's property is not and has never ever been a good idea.
Isn’t it ridiculous, all you have to do is return to your “certificate of birth” and give up your “birth certificate”, as your birth certificate is worth billions of dollars in Bonds. And being a natural born human and all land where ever you are born is yours and everybody’s to share. Unfortunately Maritime law has lifted everybody off the land and then made us pay fees, licenses, registrations and everything else because we have made ourselves the debtor staying without birth certificate.