The CRAZIEST CBS BROADCASTING CONTROVERSY of the 1990 College Football Season
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- On September 22, 1990, CBS was supposed to air the SEC game between the Alabama Crimson Tide and the Georgia Bulldogs at 3:00 Eastern, and the MLB game between the Boston Red Sox and the New York Yankees at 12:00 Eastern. But when a wrench completely out of CBS' control got thrown into those plans, CBS had a decision to make- do they show college football or baseball? And the decision that they made left some happy, but others furious. This is the story behind the 1990 broadcasting controversy
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This was also the college football broadcasting debut for Brad Nessler
Brad nessler is good announcer
I still don't know why ESPN chose Chris Fowler as their #1 announcer instead of Brad Nessler. Fowler doesn't hold a candle to Nessler.
@@ericthomas917 Fun fact: Ness called LeBron's debut in 2003
CBS Sports 1990: The Dream Season? More Like the Nightmare Season
You could say that again. Apart from the Daytona 500 & Masters that year which had exciting finishes, all of the major events CBS showed in the 1990-91 time period were complete blowouts from a Detroit Pistons sweep in the NBA Finals (the last one CBS covered), A Reds sweep in the World Series, the 49ers blowing out the Broncos in the Super Bowl, A straight set sweep in both the Men's & Women's US Opens for Tennis & most infamously of all Miami beating Texas 46-3 in the Cotton Bowl.
@@chrisguardiano6143 and they fired Brent Musburger on Final Four wkend…
@@chrisguardiano6143 The Pistons beat the Trail Blazers in 5 games (the Blazers won game 2 in Auburn Hills, Mich.), so it wasn't a sweep.
@@NewDayNY917 Don't forget that the Major League Baseball All-Star Game from Chicago's Wrigley Field faced an approximately 68-minute long rain delay. This led to CBS to air "Rescue 911" with William Shatner in the interim.
@@marcus813 Yeah 89 was the sweep.
Just to clarify, Tuscaloosa and Athens are considered part of the Birmingham and Atlanta television markets respectively but yeah it's still smaller then the New York and Boston markets.
Tuscaloosa was a separate market from Birmingham back then (so was Anniston FWIW; all 3 were combined in 1998), but the Tide has been popular in Birmingham for a long time.
You should do a story about kxgn-tv , the only station in the smallest tv market, Glendive, MT, with only 13,077 people
Excellent video! It was the first year of the CBS exclusive baseball contract which ran from 1990 to 1993. Also after doing college football from 1982 to 1990 they CBS got college football back in 1996 which was also year 3 of their NFL hiatus
Wasn't Brett Favre on Southern Miss in 1990?
Yes. However, he nearly died in a serious car accident that summer. Even after he had 30 inches of intestine removed, he would still play in September against Alabama and lead them to an upset victory over the Tide.
@@chriskay1449 good thing his mama took away two of those flapjacks so he can stay hungry for the crimson tide
I remember watching this as it happened. Great video!
In the early 2000's when Yankees where playing the Red Sox, a Patriots pre-season game dominated in the ratings in the New England market
Less than 48 hours after you posted this video, FOX was forced to postpone its prime time programming of The Masked Singer and LEGO Masters by airing an NLDS game between the Philadelphia Phillies and the Atlanta Braves because of a three hour rain delay.
I've proposed a media merger that can prevent this from happening again.
Sony Entertainment, a division of Sony, currently consists of Sony Pictures and Sony Music.
Sony Entertainment can beef itself up by purchasing AMC Networks, Lionsgate, and the non-news assets of Fox Corporation.
Reflecting these acquisitions, Sony Entertainment would become AMCFox.
AMC then on out can be used as an overflow for Fox Sports programming in case Fox and Fox Sports 1 aren't available for a particular event, like diverting a baseball playoff game intended for Fox in the afternoon to AMC if rain pushes the game into night, to avoid disrupting the regular Fox primetime programming.
Mike P and myself went to that Yankee game. The delay was so long with left and went home and ended up watching it on T.V.
It was aired then locally?
And correction: In New Hampshire & St. Paul; both games were blacked out due to contract. Those games got the Yankees-Red Sox followed by a High School football game.
Also Alabama-Georgia didn't go to all of the country. Some got San Diego State-BYU, two schools then in the WAC who later became charter members of the MW, which began airing games on what is now CBS Sports Network in 2005. BYU is no longer in the MW.
Just show the college game in the South and the baseball game up North. Pretty simple.
That 1989 Southern Miss team was led by a QB who brought the Packers their first Super Bowl title in the post-merger era
The Cardinals vs. Pirates game was the national game at noon that day.
Back when the pirates actually were a winner.
The game is as of now, available to view on RUclips. Jack Buck and Tim McCarver called the Cardinals-Pirates game on September 22, 1990 for CBS. They were the #1 baseball team that year (Dick Stockton and Jim Kaat were the #2 team), so it's safe to assume that Cardinals-Pirates was always meant to be the national game while Red Sox-Yankees was going to be the backup. Unless of course, I'm missing something.
It was commonplace for networks to air at least two games simultaneously. NBC when they had the Game of the Week from 1966-89 and ABC when they did Monday Night Baseball from 1976-88 and Thursday Night Baseball in 1989 also produced at least two broadcasts. One was the game that would be seen by most of the nation (like 85% or so) while the secondary game would only be seen in the home markets of the participating teams. That secondary game was essentially there for "rainout insurance" in the event that they can't show the game that they intended most of the country to see.
I remember it being sort of a thing that the Pirates weren't drawing well and the Panthers were getting more local interest (even though they got destroyed by OU the previous week on CBS and would finish like 3-8). The LCS schedule was also weird in that it started the day after the season ended, played the first two games in Cincy, then picked up again on Monday after the Steelers played the Chargers. Couldn't catch a break
@@TMC1982Part2 Its still done to this day in the case of Apple TV friday night baseball
CBS once owned the Yankees incidentally
Back in those days, I thought MLB prohibited the network doing a game of the week from going back to show a regularly chosen game delayed outside of its designated window which is one reason there was always a 2nd game in case of rain or local blackout
That was true...although a year later, CBS 'bent' that rule. A September 14, 1991 Dodgers-Braves game, with the two teams fighting for the division title, went through a rain delay of about three hours. CBS turned its backup game(A's-Blue Jays, with only Toronto having a shot at the playoffs) into a national telecast. Eventually, after the Jays game, the Dodger-Braves game resumed...but only the Atlanta CBS affiliate got to show it. Los Angeles, and the rest of the areas which had been scheduled to see it, were shut out.
Note: Alabama/Georgia doesn't play again until 2024.
12:01 You just have to love CBS's line here as delivered by Sandy Genelius. "...either WPIX, the Yankees' commercial station, or the Madison Square Garden Network, the team's cable broadcaster could televise the game if they wished." There are so many things so wrong with this statement (or as JG would say... I'm sorry... WHAT)
1 - Yes, the Yankees could have... but they're not the more interested party. It would be WSBK or NESN who would probably be more interested as the Sox were the team who were in the playoff hunt... and would either side want to hear the musings of their most hated rival's broadcast team if only one could make it?
2 - The network broadcasters of that game would have had to call in everyone from the broadcast callers of the game to all the behind the scenes crew like the camera crew on a day off... especially the New York crew. They would have to install their cameras back in (I imagine CBS had different cameras than the local crews) and do all their checks for a game they would have no idea if (or when) it would go on. Also, I would imagine a lot of the NY based crew had plans that they made well in advance since they had the day off. I know I would spend the day with family (or friends) if I had a rare weekend day off during the season. The Boston crew may have had plans to do something else in NYC as well... who wants to be cooped up in a hotel room all day anyway? Also, one of the hallmarks of a locally broadcast game is that the local broadcast shows the things of interest to the local population (the COVID seasons when there was only 1 feed to lessen the amount of people in the park don't count).
3 - How prepared would the broadcasters be? Yea, maybe they could just use the radio call of the game, but there's a big difference between radio and TV. Radio broadcasts don't work well on TV and vice versa!
4 - We don't know what the obligations of the local broadcasters were at the time... but to say that they could just air the game makes no sense... especially since we had no idea of when it would start until it started. At least in a rain delay on a local broadcast game normally there is filler that they could go to or maybe what they would normally show at that hour. To say that the local station should cover up for this stinks to me.
(All this and besides, I can't stand the Yankees or Red Sox... and at that time I did live in the NYC area, so I didn't miss a thing... but that's a personal point).
The logistics of putting a telecast together don't allow the scenario that Genelius proposed. CBS had its crew there and that was its game to televise. There was no way that NESN, TV38 (Red Sox), MSG Network or Ch. 11 (Yankees) were gonna be able to throw something together on such short notice.
I'm sure NESN/WSBK and MSG/WPIX management were thrilled that they weren't able to televise a game and get the money from it just so CBS could not air it.
The article shown in the video actually states that the local networks had the option to air the game if they so chose. I presume they did not, but that's not entirely clear.
@@ajk How, I believe those decisions are made at the network level. Unless you mean that the local stations would do their own broadcast of the game, but I'm not sure if that would have happened since they weren't scheduled to air the game originally, they may not have had the production people in place to do so.
One more thing I am certain the video is wrong in saying the game was not televised anywhere. I recall watching the Yankee game when we got home on MSG the Yankee cable network at the time.
CBS Sports in the early 90's was absolutely crazy in terms of going after properties. To begin with, they basically gave up the NBA (before the MJ boom of the 90's) to NBC in order to get the MLB rights which they only showed for 4 seasons before losing the rights to the absolutely horrible "Baseball Network" concept that NBC & ABC put out there. Then they overspent to get the Winter Olympics for 1992, 1994 & 1998. Apart from 1994 which drew high ratings simply because of the drama between Nancy Kerrigan & Tonya Harding, CBS's Winter Olympics ratings were poor. Because they were so aggressive in getting MLB & the Winter Olympics, CBS didn't have enough money to retain the NFC rights which they lost to Fox in 1994 and started a major downward spiral for the network that lasted until they got the AFC rights in 1998. CBS could have used that money instead to keep the NBA during the MJ boom & go after other but less expensive properties such as the NHL & the World Cup that was held in the US in 1994.
And the overspending by CBS for the MLB package and the Winter Olympics and losing the NFL ended up costing the job of long time CBS Majority Owner/CEO Lawrence Tish (the Rupert Murdoch of his day)by 1995.
Do we even *have* a FOX News (a.k.a. the original BTN, the Bush Television Network) if they don't get the NFL? While Married With Children was definitely Sunday night appointment viewing, and the Simpsons started their roll, I don't think that's near enough to make FOX a thing if Summerall and Madden don't come to town.
So thanks CBS.
Interesting video but really it was a no-brainer. CBS (and NBC before it) always scheduled two games for the Game of the Week slot on Saturdays. One reason was because of weather contingencies, the other reason was that for a long time MLB's blackout rules applied to the media markets of both teams on a nationally televised game. The NBC affiliates in the cities of both the home and visiting teams would have to air the backup game. The backup game would go national if the primary game was delayed and/or postponed because of weather. After the blackout protocol was softened, CBS (and then Fox) had one game shown to most of the nation and one or more other games played simultaneously shown to more regional audiences. On the Saturday in question, the Pirates were battling for the National League East title with the Mets so their game against the Cardinals was the primary game with the Red Sox-Yankees game as the secondary or more regional game. CBS aired Pirates-Cardinals on national television. Regardless of the Alabama-Georgia football game, CBS was not going to televise Red Sox-Yankees after such a delay. Football had nothing to do with it. CBS televised a Game of the Week nationwide with its primary baseball crew and thus fulfilled their contract.
Better to tic off Boston NY than the entire country.
I'm not sure I would call Bama/UGA a big rivalry, especially at that point. This was their 1st meeting since 1985 and have rarely played each other after the mid-1960s (only 16 regular season meetings since). Both programs have bigger football rivalries with Auburn than they have with each other.
Yeah they only face each other in sec championship or national championship.
And Actually, BYU-San Diego State was the main game that day. It had the main crew of Jim Nantz and Tim Brant. BYU had upset Miami earlier in the season, was ranked #4, and a legit national title contender. SDSU was good then (Marshall Faulk) and would probably be their biggest challenge in the WAC.
@@jackquinn5385 Faulk didn't enroll at San Diego State until 1991.
@@marcus813 Good point. Nevertheless, BYU/SDSU was the number one game. But it's still fascinating. I wonder if CBS could have produced the game and just made it available to any affiliate that wanted to pick up, or maybe make it available on the Yankees and Red Sox's cable stations.
Bama started 0-3 under Gene Stallings and finished the year getting smoked by Louisville in the Fiesta Bowl.
UL's third string QB was Erik Watts, who would probably warrant a joint JG/Brian Zane video (I'm sorry, WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?)
MLB and NCAA also have the most history and thats why I like them
To continue this channel's Pittsburgh obsession, KDKA (at 1:51) is the CBS station for... you know...
At 3:06, the man responsible for breaking the Red Sox curse.
Baseball always in pennant chase is more interesting. College is local. Southern Midwest US. NE US don't care about football. Split the signal regionally
So is this the reason CBS doesn't cover baseball any more? Oof.
CBS overpaid for the rights to MLB after the 1989 season. They had a four-year contract covering 1990-1993 at a cost of $1 billion (USD). CBS lost _half_ of that money. Worse yet, the playoffs had yet to expand and the World Series went the full seven games exactly once in those four years. With each playoff game that wasn’t necessary because a series was clinched, CBS lost money on those, too.
@@drewzuhosky6826 And thankfully, WPIX-TV (channel 11) did carried Yankees baseball while WCBS-TV (channel 2) did carried a college football game.
CBS got the MLB rights strictly for the playoffs. The regular season was all but an afterthought for CBS. Its coverage left a lot to be desired, but the broadcasting concept that followed CBS' run was even worse (I can't see "The Baseball Network" on my screen without smoke billowing from my ears).
@@drewzuhosky6826 Also, the Toronto Blue Jays were in the World Series for the last two years of CBS' contract (as well as the ALCS in 1991). Much of Toronto's fan base, being in Canada after-all, doesn't factor in the Nielsen ratings. Because of thus, CBS got lower ratings than usual at the time.
@@drewzuhosky6826 That one World Series that went to the full seven games, 1991 with Minnesota and Atlanta, was an absolute classic though and arguably, the greatest World Series ever played. So CBS at the very least, has that to hang their hats on.
Imo CBS made a good decision on this one. I don't think it's fair for Alabama-Georgia fans to not be able to watch their game because the Yankees-Red Sox took long to start because of the rain. Now if the game had already started and they're broadcasting it, then it's a tough decision rather to keep the game on or switch to the college game.
Good for you not mentioning a certain Southern Miss QB who beat Bama & nearly beat Georgia.
That certain southern miss who is now a low life loser who steals from poor people.
It was a 5-4 win
Lol stop trying to make Judgegate happen. A very very mild inconvenience is nothing compared to the other college football vs. MLB videos
This was Gene Stallings first year at Alabama. He had previously coached the St Louis and Arizona Cardinals and was offered the job after Bill Curry resigned after having lost four straight games to Auburn and the final two games of the 1989 season. I was 16 and left to go the county fair to enjoy the rides before it got dark. It was a cold Sept afternoon and missed the second half. When we found out Bama lost on a last second field goal we knew we didn't miss anything. This was the days you couldnt go to your app or even another station to watch the end of an event. They couldn't cover this game on Sunday because they had NFL. It was a mistake they never made again.
The problem, in my opinion, is that the MLB regular season is too long.
ABC's Monday Night Baseball had a similar situation on it's season premiere telecast in 1988. It's intended "main" game was the Dodgers at Mets (Al Michaels, Jim Palmer & Tim McCarver) that was riddled with rain delays for it's first hour or two, so they pretty much stopped televising that game after a second or third rain delay (maybe in the LA market they continued) and put the rest of the country on it's intended "backup game" of the Yankees at A's (Gary Bender & Joe Morgan) for the rest of the night (wouldnt be surprised if they just stopped televising their main game period). BTW, CBS wouldve had limitations had they would have televised a long delayed Bos at NYY game since they were allotted just 16 games for each of those 4 years they had basball.
Yep, you don't mess with SEC football fans. No words can describe the hell CBS would have caught if they had shown the baseball game instead.
Did CBS show Redsoxs/Bluejays classic pennant winning game, and shown a classic N.D/ Miami,Fla in 90.
Is there any footage of the MLB game?
You need to make a video on the 1968 Raiders/Jets game, AKA the Heidi Bowl. Edit: Oops! I searched for Heidi and it said nothing found.
They could have also just showed the Yankees - Red Sox to only Boston and New York because they were the market most interested in this game. While college football can be seen by everyone else. Another thing that would work in CBS’s advantage was that the Red Sox were chasing Toronto for the division. In other words, a non-American team who aren’t affected with CBS’s decisions; because if the Orioles or the Tigers were in the pennant race then those cities would care what happens with the Red Sox.
They still would have had to shuffle their prime time shows if they chose to do that
Maybe CBS could have cut to baseball only in New York and Boston.
Don't forget that in the Daytona 500, Dale Earnhardt was in position to win until hit debris in turn 3, which let Derrick Cope win. The only people who know Cope is, is mostly because of this fact.
As a Georgia fan I am ashamed Herschel walker once played for us.
I totally understand where you're coming from, but don't let him being an idiot as a politician in 2022 distract you from the fact that he was the best running back in all of college football and one of the reasons why Georgia won the national championship in 1980
You are right he was an incredible running back even if he is a piece of shit human being.
So you giving back the national championship he carried you to
Oh I see you are a MAGAt who supports Herschel and I triggered your little MAGAt feelings.
This isn't a political video, keep your political opinions out of it.
Dream Season my @$$.
As a Yankees fan...
*Buck Foston!*
Monroe aired it after baseball
Sec or Yankees vs red sox let's go