There was this guy once who remodeled a very dilapidated house from the ground up. It looked like an impossible job. All the floors were un level The walls were bowing out. The electric service was not up to code. There was a washout issue with the front yard and driveway. Lots of tree limbs needing trimmed off the roof. Looked like an impossible situation. But I watched this guy transform this house into a very nice livable structure. That guy was you Brock. That guy was you. I believe this will be less work than remodeling that house...
Wow! I didn’t think anybody watched those older videos about the rental house. I was kind of proud of that job. My daughter and grand kids live there now Thanks for following along
That rebar set up is exactly what the guys did with my garage back in 2016, suspend two 5/8" lines and then pour the concrete around it. I like Option 3 or 4. And you know I am cost sensitive as well, but since you're spending a lot already, you want to make sure it gets done right. Good video.
I'm on board 100% Brock . I'm looking forward to this build as I have built a couple projects that I felt that I could do , but I have yet to do foundation walls of concrete. I am an electrical contractor in Western Michigan ( 40 years ) so your point about contractor cost are appreciated ! Nothing more fulfilling than when someone askes " Who buit that for you ? " you can say " I did it myself " ! I'll be watching pc
Thanks for sharing. I have a lot of respect for contractors and tradesmen. I like to do things myself, but I had to replace all the electrical in a rental house and consider doing it myself and realized it was out of my league and that that needed to be done by a professional You just have to know where to draw that line between things you can do a quality job on and things you can’t
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Also take a look at a product called QUIK wall. Made by the same folks as QUIK Crete. It's a different way of doing block. You only bed the first course in mortar on the footing. Then you set the following courses dry and spread the QUIK wall on both sides. I've used it for a stem wall before, worked well.
I like how you are not scared to tackle anything yourself! You can definitely save a ton of money DIY if you have the patience to research it and the time to dedicate to the project. In NW Florida, concrete went from $5 sq ft on my shed pour last year to $6.50 a sq ft on my pole barn this year....I think footers without a slab are $30 foot...the pole barn is not poured yet so I don't have the final bill. I went with a 4" fiber reinforced 3000psi slab....not sure your intended use of the shed is, but in hindsight, I would have went 6" slab 4500psi at least in the bay where I park my tractor and excavator. At the time, I didn't anticipate I would buy an excavator so 4" was fine for just the tractor.
Just a thought, if the footer only needs to be 16" wide, you may want to check into making or renting concrete forms. Set the spacing 16" wide, which should save quite a bit of concrete. Also provide smooth sides to the footer to help reduce shifting if/when the ground freezes. Keep the great videos coming.
Thanks for sharing. I was and still am considering renting forms. Someone told me it would cost like two grand to rent the forms which sounds impossible. I won’t know till I actually call on it myself
yeah for me I couldn't do it, that's what I admire about you and the things you tackle. Stuff like this just kind of overwhelms me then I get frustrated cause I don't know what I'm doing. Then I still end up having to call somebody to come in and complete the job, so I know that it was done right. I guess it just all depends on what experiences people have and feel like they can do. Or some people just love a good challenge. Keep up the great work. I got my 2032r this week and you've inspired me to start a channel (use to comment as Chris Simpson) now it's Simpson's Tractor Works. I give you props in my first video! Keep on keepin' on Brock!
I have spent my whole life doing just exactly what you are doing. I never had a lot of extra money to psy someone else to do something I could do myself. My problem was my father and grandfather second guessing me and trying to cheap out on a project, to the point where they didn't leave enough for materials in the project budget to do the job properly. A couple jobs I refused to continue on because they undercut my requirements so badly. Shoring of Poured concrete walls are something you do not cut corners on, or gamble having your hard work flow out onto the ground. This was what I had the most trouble with with my relatives.
Recently I've found the same thing with other projects on a property we purchased. I keep running into a couple thousand here and there for a culvert or cleanup. But I bought a tractor for a reason and it's a great excuse to buy new tools and gain new experiences. I actually found a culvert pipe for free at a construction site (yes we asked) and the road base will cost about 350/400 for a dump load. That culvert will be 3000 less than quoted for a crew and their costs, plus I'll have learned something new and have the ability to say I did it. Sweat equity!
I've done smaller concrete jobs but nothing compared to this size. My thoughts would be to hire or enlist a good concrete guy to help you out, just to ensure things go correctly. Personally, I'm not sure I would tackle a job that big, so huge props to you, Brock! Based on many of your videos I have watched, there's no doubt you'll do a great job. Good luck, my friend, look forward to watching you pull this off!! 👍
brock I've watched enough of your videos to know that you could have handled this job yourself. just having the confidence to start this kind of job is half of the job itself
pouring the footing is something you should be able to do. Hanging the rebar from a support above the trench should be fine, just makes finishing bit harder. I'm not sure where you are trying to hold the rebar (elevation) but you can also get plastic chairs that keep them off the ground and the plastic will not decompose. Finish isn't all that important on a footer, but if your going to put a block wall on it you will want it to be pretty decent. Going about it myself, I would lean towards doing a block wall over a poured in place wall. Concrete forms need to be much more rigid than you probably imagine, even if its only 2-3' high. They need tied together so the sides stay plumb and don't blow out. You will need a way of vibrating the concrete down to make sure the air voids are removed. A block wall is a lot easier make sure you are going about it the right way, and you can take your time and be more methodical about it. Just my opinions.
Sounds like you got some great problem solving for this one. Plus yes you rate for concrete is oh my amazing. Yes you bleeped it out but I can read lips a little...lol. This is gonna be a great building. When we move I might need to hire you to help us clear some property for our road and clearing. If it comes to that anyway. I really don't have any other advise as I haven't done this work before but we will be doing this in the near future.
Good morning Brock, I poured some small footings and laid a block wall 5 courses high around my south pad where we have our outdoor patio. It was a lot of work and I learned that I hate laying block. I bought a transit as well to make sure everything was level. $1500 bucks or so of concrete is pretty cheap and would give you a good foundation. The rebar is available at Home Depot pretty cheap, and you might need a cut off saw to cut them to length, but I had problems making sure the block holes were lined up with the rebar. Now in saying all that, I work in IT and not construction, so maybe look for some other comments on better advice. :)
Great idea to put the question out there to the audience! All of our buildings (other than the house) have been pole buildings - no footers. So I don't have any advice/experience. -Chad #purplecollarlife
If I was you, I would do option 2 or 3. You have the hole in the ground, just pour the footings. Whether you lay block, or buy concrete bin blocks doesn't make much difference. But those are the best two options, in my mind, for your situation.
I would get 2x12s and make your own forms 16" wide. One mat of #4 bar 12" oc each way and some 90 degree #4 bar 12" oc would be plenty to tie a knee wall to it. I'm guessing you don't get alot of snow where you are. How's the weather where you are? The bar in the footing will only be for shrinkage anyway. You could go up in size just depends on the loads on your building. The place you bought the building from should be able to tell you the design loads. The idea is that the reinforcement and the concrete fail at the same time.
Thanks for the feedback We are in a warmer area and the Quonset hut isn’t as heavy as a traditional frame building which is why I didn’t think I need to go that deep The nearest town states 16” deep is code
I would mix my own concrete for my footings because you got to have that first row of brick down in that footing concrete and it takes time you can buy a PTO cement mixer to run off of your tractor two guys should be able to handle the footing but when you do the slab you better have about 10 guys helping you you're going to need some long Pole bull floats and I would rent a ride on leveler for the cement don't forget you'll need a long screed just make your own out of a 2x6
@@RockhillfarmYT have you considered using asphalt road millings instead of rock? Since you have the tractor and a compactor, you could easily maintain it.
There was this guy once who remodeled a very dilapidated house from the ground up. It looked like an impossible job. All the floors were un level The walls were bowing out. The electric service was not up to code. There was a washout issue with the front yard and driveway. Lots of tree limbs needing trimmed off the roof. Looked like an impossible situation. But I watched this guy transform this house into a very nice livable structure. That guy was you Brock. That guy was you. I believe this will be less work than remodeling that house...
Wow!
I didn’t think anybody watched those older videos about the rental house. I was kind of proud of that job. My daughter and grand kids live there now
Thanks for following along
@@RockhillfarmYT thats awesome, looking at that house at the start, it’s wild to think your family lives there now.
You are the man! Like you I like challenge !
Thanks.
That rebar set up is exactly what the guys did with my garage back in 2016, suspend two 5/8" lines and then pour the concrete around it. I like Option 3 or 4. And you know I am cost sensitive as well, but since you're spending a lot already, you want to make sure it gets done right. Good video.
Right. I want to spend money on materials to make sure it’s done right I just want to save the labor
Looking forward to seeing future videos on this project.
Thanks
I'm on board 100% Brock . I'm looking forward to this build as I have built a couple projects that I felt that I could do , but I have yet to do foundation walls of concrete. I am an electrical contractor in Western Michigan ( 40 years ) so your point about contractor cost are appreciated ! Nothing more fulfilling than when someone askes " Who buit that for you ? " you can say " I did it myself " !
I'll be watching
pc
Thanks for sharing. I have a lot of respect for contractors and tradesmen.
I like to do things myself, but I had to replace all the electrical in a rental house and consider doing it myself and realized it was out of my league and that that needed to be done by a professional
You just have to know where to draw that line between things you can do a quality job on and things you can’t
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Thanks for watching
Also take a look at a product called QUIK wall. Made by the same folks as QUIK Crete. It's a different way of doing block. You only bed the first course in mortar on the footing. Then you set the following courses dry and spread the QUIK wall on both sides. I've used it for a stem wall before, worked well.
Thanks
I will check it out
I like how you are not scared to tackle anything yourself! You can definitely save a ton of money DIY if you have the patience to research it and the time to dedicate to the project. In NW Florida, concrete went from $5 sq ft on my shed pour last year to $6.50 a sq ft on my pole barn this year....I think footers without a slab are $30 foot...the pole barn is not poured yet so I don't have the final bill. I went with a 4" fiber reinforced 3000psi slab....not sure your intended use of the shed is, but in hindsight, I would have went 6" slab 4500psi at least in the bay where I park my tractor and excavator. At the time, I didn't anticipate I would buy an excavator so 4" was fine for just the tractor.
Thanks for sharing
I've got no advice for you, Brock, but I'm excited to see how this turns out. Good luck, my friend!
Same here. Not my wheelhouse.
Thank you guys for watching
Just a thought, if the footer only needs to be 16" wide, you may want to check into making or renting concrete forms. Set the spacing 16" wide, which should save quite a bit of concrete. Also provide smooth sides to the footer to help reduce shifting if/when the ground freezes. Keep the great videos coming.
Thanks for sharing. I was and still am considering renting forms.
Someone told me it would cost like two grand to rent the forms which sounds impossible.
I won’t know till I actually call on it myself
yeah for me I couldn't do it, that's what I admire about you and the things you tackle. Stuff like this just kind of overwhelms me then I get frustrated cause I don't know what I'm doing. Then I still end up having to call somebody to come in and complete the job, so I know that it was done right. I guess it just all depends on what experiences people have and feel like they can do. Or some people just love a good challenge. Keep up the great work. I got my 2032r this week and you've inspired me to start a channel (use to comment as Chris Simpson) now it's Simpson's Tractor Works. I give you props in my first video! Keep on keepin' on Brock!
Good luck Brock, I know you will figure it out....
Thanks
I have spent my whole life doing just exactly what you are doing. I never had a lot of extra money to psy someone else to do something I could do myself. My problem was my father and grandfather second guessing me and trying to cheap out on a project, to the point where they didn't leave enough for materials in the project budget to do the job properly. A couple jobs I refused to continue on because they undercut my requirements so badly. Shoring of Poured concrete walls are something you do not cut corners on, or gamble having your hard work flow out onto the ground. This was what I had the most trouble with with my relatives.
Thanks for sharing
Recently I've found the same thing with other projects on a property we purchased. I keep running into a couple thousand here and there for a culvert or cleanup.
But I bought a tractor for a reason and it's a great excuse to buy new tools and gain new experiences. I actually found a culvert pipe for free at a construction site (yes we asked) and the road base will cost about 350/400 for a dump load.
That culvert will be 3000 less than quoted for a crew and their costs, plus I'll have learned something new and have the ability to say I did it.
Sweat equity!
Exactly
Thanks for sharing
I've done smaller concrete jobs but nothing compared to this size. My thoughts would be to hire or enlist a good concrete guy to help you out, just to ensure things go correctly. Personally, I'm not sure I would tackle a job that big, so huge props to you, Brock! Based on many of your videos I have watched, there's no doubt you'll do a great job. Good luck, my friend, look forward to watching you pull this off!! 👍
Thanks
brock I've watched enough of your videos to know that you could have handled this job yourself. just having the confidence to start this kind of job is half of the job itself
Yeah, I’m always nervous about it and worry about the best way to do it a few weeks but then it usually works out pretty well
Thanks for watching
pouring the footing is something you should be able to do. Hanging the rebar from a support above the trench should be fine, just makes finishing bit harder. I'm not sure where you are trying to hold the rebar (elevation) but you can also get plastic chairs that keep them off the ground and the plastic will not decompose. Finish isn't all that important on a footer, but if your going to put a block wall on it you will want it to be pretty decent.
Going about it myself, I would lean towards doing a block wall over a poured in place wall. Concrete forms need to be much more rigid than you probably imagine, even if its only 2-3' high. They need tied together so the sides stay plumb and don't blow out. You will need a way of vibrating the concrete down to make sure the air voids are removed. A block wall is a lot easier make sure you are going about it the right way, and you can take your time and be more methodical about it. Just my opinions.
Thanks for the tips
Sounds like you got some great problem solving for this one. Plus yes you rate for concrete is oh my amazing. Yes you bleeped it out but I can read lips a little...lol. This is gonna be a great building. When we move I might need to hire you to help us clear some property for our road and clearing. If it comes to that anyway. I really don't have any other advise as I haven't done this work before but we will be doing this in the near future.
Yeah if you make it down here let me know and we can connect
I'm in the search for a metal building and plan on doing the concrete I'm interested in your next move.
Thanks for watching. I’ll have a video of me putting concrete in here within the next two weeks
Good morning Brock, I poured some small footings and laid a block wall 5 courses high around my south pad where we have our outdoor patio. It was a lot of work and I learned that I hate laying block. I bought a transit as well to make sure everything was level. $1500 bucks or so of concrete is pretty cheap and would give you a good foundation. The rebar is available at Home Depot pretty cheap, and you might need a cut off saw to cut them to length, but I had problems making sure the block holes were lined up with the rebar. Now in saying all that, I work in IT and not construction, so maybe look for some other comments on better advice. :)
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you got it done though
Great idea to put the question out there to the audience! All of our buildings (other than the house) have been pole buildings - no footers. So I don't have any advice/experience. -Chad #purplecollarlife
Thanks for sharing
Brock good morning this should be quit a project thanks
God Bless All
PaK
Thanks for watching
If I was you, I would do option 2 or 3. You have the hole in the ground, just pour the footings. Whether you lay block, or buy concrete bin blocks doesn't make much difference. But those are the best two options, in my mind, for your situation.
Thanks for sharing
I would get 2x12s and make your own forms 16" wide. One mat of #4 bar 12" oc each way and some 90 degree #4 bar 12" oc would be plenty to tie a knee wall to it. I'm guessing you don't get alot of snow where you are. How's the weather where you are? The bar in the footing will only be for shrinkage anyway. You could go up in size just depends on the loads on your building. The place you bought the building from should be able to tell you the design loads. The idea is that the reinforcement and the concrete fail at the same time.
Thanks for the feedback
We are in a warmer area and the Quonset hut isn’t as heavy as a traditional frame building which is why I didn’t think I need to go that deep
The nearest town states 16” deep is code
Watch concrete with the Hauses
Good suggestion. I’ve seen them on Mike’s channel but never watched their channel
I would mix my own concrete for my footings because you got to have that first row of brick down in that footing concrete and it takes time you can buy a PTO cement mixer to run off of your tractor two guys should be able to handle the footing but when you do the slab you better have about 10 guys helping you you're going to need some long Pole bull floats and I would rent a ride on leveler for the cement don't forget you'll need a long screed just make your own out of a 2x6
buy lots of 5/8 j bolts for your footing foundation about every 18 in, and buy lots of 3/4-in rebar you've got this
I’m not doing a full slab. I’m just doing footings and stem walls and then filling it in inside with rock
@@RockhillfarmYT have you considered using asphalt road millings instead of rock? Since you have the tractor and a compactor, you could easily maintain it.
Listen to salesman, if he is good, knows what he is doing, he has sold and seen a lot more of these specialized buildings that you have.
Right