It’s clearly the superior one, and if we’re going by skill and song writing then to live is to die has to be #2 and I love Ktulu but it’s a tad bit too repetitive to compare to the others but it’s still amazing . Not calling it too repetitive or anything, just compared to the godliness of Orion
Yeah it sounds great! But for the Rick tone Kill Em All is the prime example, afterwards he changed for an Aria Pro ii to get that dirty tone, still a really great job love it!
I think that on RtL he used an Alembic Spoiler bass and maybe the Rickenbacker, but the Rick was quickly Retired due to the modifications making it more fragile. Then the Alembic went messing/got stolen and Cliff got his endorsement with Aria.
@@JRut99ehh kinda true, but pickup positioning does make a huge difference tho, a P bass vs a j bass for example is a big difference in tone, even through the exact same chain, but two of the same style of bass will have very minimal differences in sound
@@greenyshade 1.) The famous equipment theft had to have happened before RTL because the theft led to the writing of Fade to Black which is on RTL. 2.) James had his Marshall stolen, that's when he started using a Mesa Boogie. It's a major reason why their whole sound changed so much from Kill 'em All to Lightning. His old Marshall is considered pretty unique sounding. 3.) The producer of RTL has said on video that they spent a week trying to get a satisfying sound from the new Boogie, all of which seem to "...have a hundred knobs and most of them do something you don't want. " It has to be the Aria Pro II on RTL.
@@quoerp4019yeah they had their instruments and equipment stolen when they were touring and making Ride The Lightning Album so after that it was the Aria. So I believe that Cliffs actual Rickie with the guitar pickup he soldered on to it is somewhere out there
For each album Cliff used different bass. For Kill Em All he was using Rick but he had old strings so it all sounded a bit weird. In 1984 Cliff was using Alembic Spoiler bass which he was stolen with their van (this incident made James Hetfield so sad that he wrote Fade to black) and from that point he had Aria bass(es, he was said to buy one first and then switched to golden one). For RTL tone he was using tube screamer and messa and for MOP more or less same gear. He didn't have new strings as in 1984 so the tone was a bit unclear, with boosted bass and mids, low trebles. You can replicate the MOP bass tone with P pickups, overdrive (I used scrambler from ampeg) and regarding amp I had just 15W Cort GE15B. Key to this tone is in fact that Cliff had single pickup on his bass which is main reason to problem with replicating his tone as there is very few basses with single humbucker and even fewer basses have it in middle as most basses follow the MusicMan placement.
The G&L L1000 is an example of a bass with a single humbucker in the middle (if you don’t count P basses), but yeah, not many basses have a similar setup.
@@mr_bassman6685 Yeah, that's my point. You'd need humbucker or active P bass pickup. And even after that P bass pickup only works for MoP tone really. I did that one in my room and it was pretty close, but RtL tone you would need pretty similar bass, new strings and same rig basically. Noone did that tone for bass because it's rhat hard
@@richard_4stringmf178 Was he using the Alembic on RtL? I guess I assumed it was mostly the Aria at that point, but yeah, you'd need an Alembic if you wanted to replicate the tone rather than get close enough.
@@mr_bassman6685 I did some research of photos and yes, cliff with 99.99% probability used Alembic bass for recording of rtl, I found some photos from gig on febuary 1st 1985 from rtl tour where he had alembic. He probably acquired this bass before recording of the album (due to malfunctions of ricknebacker) as the tone is a lot cleaner and crispier contrary to MoP bass tone which is more dirty and sounds like cliff didn't change his strings for some time. However this bass was later stolen (between march and august 1985, guys had some free time between gig in Portland where last photo I found, Donnington gig was played on Aria) and Cliff replaced alembic with Aria pro II in black n gold. Hope you got the answer you wanted and learned some interesting stuff :D
You can also add in the following pedals (Track dependent) BOSS CS-1 compressor Ibanez tube screamer Morely Power Wah Fuzz Big Muff Pi Those effects with his style of playing is what makes Ktulu one of the best instrumentals ever written.
@@ahhshitposter Nope, it’s true that if you google what pedals he used, the big muff shows up on Thommanns website. However there is no source other than somebody who allegedly knew Cliff’s memory. As far as the fuzz wah, there’s no photo, interview or anything else. In to live is to die somebody said “the fuzz wah was his thing”. But I don’t believe it. In all pictures where you can see Cliff’s wah, it’s only got one knob vs the two that the fuzz wah has.
while he played a rick, it was a rick only in name. (i believe) cliff’s had a gibson mudbucker in the neck, a seymour duncan quarter pound jazz pickup in the bridge, and then a secret strat style guitar pickup that was where the felt mute typically is on a rick bridge that he would toggle one and off for solos.
he made it seem so badass even though it is but its a shame that bass isnt looked at as important as the other band instruments even though its the most important
you missed one really important part to his bass tone and it’s that he has a guitar pickup and a bass pickup on his bass so it has a really high top end but still drags low like a bass genius strategy and i did the same thing cause it sounds so unique
A lot of the Gibson basses lend themselves quite well to getting Burton tones, I've got a 74 Grabber and a lot of people have asked me about the tones i get from it. They're surprisingly versatile things if you get to know them.
Almost there, there is still a small difference. Pretty close though. Your sound is a bit more bassy and probably a bit down on the drive, but the sound that i know is not there is that "clack" which adds to the sound.
That "clang" you talk about is from Aria bass...just got one and it sounds dead on...and of course hard hitting tone...but my rig was otherwise the same...neither my precision nor my embassy basses were getting it right...and the drive sounded good to me...aria completely nailed it
IMPORTANT: Cliff used pedals to help achieve his sound in the early 80s stuff. You can hear his Big Muff pedal and Morley Power-Wah on the epic Anesthesia: Pulling Teeth track. He was also known to use an early version of the Ibanez Tube Screamer. He is rumored to have used a Peavy Mark-IV early on before switching to Randall RBA-500s and Mesa Boogie D-180 200W heads.
I'm super close, however I would take the pickguard off cuz I think he would hit it around where you're picking it in the video, two around on the pickup
Very close! For the master of puppets album, Cliff was using the Aria Pro ii SB series bass, which has 1 pickup in the middle, rather than closer to the bridge. If you want a KEA tone, then go for a Rick.
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I have found that 30-95 are the easiest option to buy and get you in the area tonewise. Depending on what pickups you're using I would strongly recommend using DR strings as they seem to bring out a lot of the harmonic qualities you find in Cliff's playing. I use Hi-Beams or Black Beauties but, the Black Beauties are particularly suitable for the Bill Lawrence Humbucker I've got in my bass, may not be the best for yours although id recommend trying them at least once to see. Ive found that they bend really nicely up on the higher frets and always go back into tune and they are tapered over the bridge saddles allowing you to get the action down nice and low. Lastly, get your pickup height set right and you'll get the best volume from the strings and remember to practice the right hand techniques he used. The angles of attack are very subtle but the sound he got from these are hugely noticeable. Apologies if I'm "preaching to the converted" I've been playing Metallica since I was a teenager and I've watched his playing quite closely. Just trying to help a fellow bassist or perhaps behs-isst 😂
@@restojon1 that makes so much more sense, ive been using flatwound 40s on a shortscale stingray to get the tone but its an absolute pain to play prolonged.
doesn't sound that even close. All you have to do to get the fat master of puppets tone is a p bass, crank mid and treb, add a little bass, some overdrive (preferably tube screamer) and dig in HARD with your fingers
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The few times I dabbled with the behs I tried to play his stuff. I was obsessed with Metallica at the time, so any time I'd have the chance to pick up a behs I'd play For Whom the Bell Tolls.
*Español* Básicamente súbele a los bajos y los medios y bajale a los altos. También no utilices la perilla de tono del bajo ya que así lo utilizaba Cliff.
I personally think the mid, and bass should be cranked up more. Along with playing in between the pickups, get that sound a lot better, as opposed to the sort of plucking sound from the fingers.
Pretty good except that Clifford is obviously galloping on those strings way closer to the neck as opposed to near the bridge and he also uses medium gauge 🤘🏻
Cliff actually installed some kind of Seymour Duncan guitar pickup behind his bridge pickup. Cliff called it his secret weapon. If you look for pictures of his burgondy Rickenbacker you can see the pickup.
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Orion is one of the best instrumentals of all time, ngl
It is and still to me not the best in their catalogue either… Call of Ktulu is up there if not better
I like instrumental songs better but wherever i may roam just tickles my pickle
It’s clearly the superior one, and if we’re going by skill and song writing then to live is to die has to be #2 and I love Ktulu but it’s a tad bit too repetitive to compare to the others but it’s still amazing . Not calling it too repetitive or anything, just compared to the godliness of Orion
@84tapes I think Call of Ktulu is better because it tells a story. Orion is beautiful but it doesn't really have a story.
Right until you hear Pomegranate Tiger or Animals As Leaders.
B E H S
Behs Toan
'ow loeh can ye goeh
The fact that there’s a “translate to English” option on these replies
@ABANDONEDACCOUNT10what
Cliff Bherton's Behs tone
Yeah it sounds great! But for the Rick tone Kill Em All is the prime example, afterwards he changed for an Aria Pro ii to get that dirty tone, still a really great job love it!
I think that on RtL he used an Alembic Spoiler bass and maybe the Rickenbacker, but the Rick was quickly Retired due to the modifications making it more fragile. Then the Alembic went messing/got stolen and Cliff got his endorsement with Aria.
Ultimately the guitar/pickups affect the tone minimally. It’s mostly in which preamp, cabinet, pedals, and microphone you use
@@JRut99ehh kinda true, but pickup positioning does make a huge difference tho, a P bass vs a j bass for example is a big difference in tone, even through the exact same chain, but two of the same style of bass will have very minimal differences in sound
@@Malum09RTL is the Rickenbacker, he started using the Alembic, around November of that year.
@@greenyshade
1.) The famous equipment theft had to have happened before RTL because the theft led to the writing of Fade to Black which is on RTL.
2.) James had his Marshall stolen, that's when he started using a Mesa Boogie. It's a major reason why their whole sound changed so much from Kill 'em All to Lightning. His old Marshall is considered pretty unique sounding.
3.) The producer of RTL has said on video that they spent a week trying to get a satisfying sound from the new Boogie, all of which seem to "...have a hundred knobs and most of them do something you don't want. "
It has to be the Aria Pro II on RTL.
Funny part is that Cliff didnt even use the Rickenbacker on Orion
Was it the Aria or the other one he had for only a little while? I play an Aria from January 1981, so I get those same tones
I'm guessing the Aria but his rickie broke while they were doing Ride the Lightning
@@quoerp4019yeah they had their instruments and equipment stolen when they were touring and making Ride The Lightning Album so after that it was the Aria. So I believe that Cliffs actual Rickie with the guitar pickup he soldered on to it is somewhere out there
@@the50blessings88it’s in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
@@YamatoTorisu oh shit 😭
I mean, he was using an aria in MOP, your tone sounds fantastic
Try plucking agressively at the neck pickup. You'll hear that little difference it makes
Yeah, it lets you get more stamina and more clank. In this case, it's more like clunck.
Geezer Butler basically
@@lameguduzaku3772one of Cliff's favorite bassists
Spend 2k on a Rick…..then rip the pickups out of it and put a mudbucker in the neck and jazz pickup in the bridge…..
Or you could build your own custom bass fir way less 🤔 😮🤣😎🫡👌
@@HighVybeTribe funny thing is, what he is saying is what Cliff Actually did wit his Rick
Also a single coil Seymour Duncan in the spot where the foam would be
That was on kill em all and rtl
For each album Cliff used different bass. For Kill Em All he was using Rick but he had old strings so it all sounded a bit weird. In 1984 Cliff was using Alembic Spoiler bass which he was stolen with their van (this incident made James Hetfield so sad that he wrote Fade to black) and from that point he had Aria bass(es, he was said to buy one first and then switched to golden one). For RTL tone he was using tube screamer and messa and for MOP more or less same gear. He didn't have new strings as in 1984 so the tone was a bit unclear, with boosted bass and mids, low trebles. You can replicate the MOP bass tone with P pickups, overdrive (I used scrambler from ampeg) and regarding amp I had just 15W Cort GE15B. Key to this tone is in fact that Cliff had single pickup on his bass which is main reason to problem with replicating his tone as there is very few basses with single humbucker and even fewer basses have it in middle as most basses follow the MusicMan placement.
The G&L L1000 is an example of a bass with a single humbucker in the middle (if you don’t count P basses), but yeah, not many basses have a similar setup.
@@mr_bassman6685 Yeah, that's my point. You'd need humbucker or active P bass pickup. And even after that P bass pickup only works for MoP tone really. I did that one in my room and it was pretty close, but RtL tone you would need pretty similar bass, new strings and same rig basically. Noone did that tone for bass because it's rhat hard
@@richard_4stringmf178 Was he using the Alembic on RtL? I guess I assumed it was mostly the Aria at that point, but yeah, you'd need an Alembic if you wanted to replicate the tone rather than get close enough.
@@mr_bassman6685 I did some research of photos and yes, cliff with 99.99% probability used Alembic bass for recording of rtl, I found some photos from gig on febuary 1st 1985 from rtl tour where he had alembic. He probably acquired this bass before recording of the album (due to malfunctions of ricknebacker) as the tone is a lot cleaner and crispier contrary to MoP bass tone which is more dirty and sounds like cliff didn't change his strings for some time. However this bass was later stolen (between march and august 1985, guys had some free time between gig in Portland where last photo I found, Donnington gig was played on Aria) and Cliff replaced alembic with Aria pro II in black n gold. Hope you got the answer you wanted and learned some interesting stuff :D
The Drive he used specifically was a Russian Big Muff Pi from Electro-Harmonix
I always loved the black Aria Pro SB-1000 he used. Those are some sweet basses.
Amazing BEHS. RIP Cliff.
You can also add in the following pedals (Track dependent)
BOSS CS-1 compressor
Ibanez tube screamer
Morely Power Wah Fuzz
Big Muff Pi
Those effects with his style of playing is what makes Ktulu one of the best instrumentals ever written.
He never used a big muff nor a fuzz wah. The power wah boost is the main key to his sound
@@Farewelltokingzhe uses wahs and big muffd
@@ahhshitposter He uses wah, just not the fuzz wah. But never the big muff, there’s no photos of him with one or interviews
@@Farewelltokingz it is proved he did
@@ahhshitposter Nope, it’s true that if you google what pedals he used, the big muff shows up on Thommanns website. However there is no source other than somebody who allegedly knew Cliff’s memory. As far as the fuzz wah, there’s no photo, interview or anything else. In to live is to die somebody said “the fuzz wah was his thing”. But I don’t believe it. In all pictures where you can see Cliff’s wah, it’s only got one knob vs the two that the fuzz wah has.
while he played a rick, it was a rick only in name. (i believe) cliff’s had a gibson mudbucker in the neck, a seymour duncan quarter pound jazz pickup in the bridge, and then a secret strat style guitar pickup that was where the felt mute typically is on a rick bridge that he would toggle one and off for solos.
It was a Seymour Duncan peizo under the bridge, but he said he always had problems with it.
Cliff is the reason I started playing bass.
he made it seem so badass even though it is but its a shame that bass isnt looked at as important as the other band instruments even though its the most important
Same dude
Me as well
Same here
Cliff is the reason i continue playing bass
This man is an icon
Way cool! Thanks for that.
Beeeehstone
Such an underrated channel
Great ! I like how you make the sound a little bit more "middlish"
He sounded so calm in this time
Loved the signature Aria did for him in 2013 at NAMM
i love Cliff bass tone cause it sounds like a damn distorsion bubble
Dig in, dig in as hard as you can
Awesome !!!
Awesome man!
You forgot the Gibson "Mudbucker" pickup added in the neck position!!
you missed one really important part to his bass tone and it’s that he has a guitar pickup and a bass pickup on his bass so it has a really high top end but still drags low like a bass genius strategy and i did the same thing cause it sounds so unique
Can you explain exactly what I need to buy? I’m a noob who is reaching a new level
Hmm. This would work for a Gibson SG bass, then.
A lot of the Gibson basses lend themselves quite well to getting Burton tones, I've got a 74 Grabber and a lot of people have asked me about the tones i get from it. They're surprisingly versatile things if you get to know them.
BEHS🌸🎸
Almost there, there is still a small difference. Pretty close though. Your sound is a bit more bassy and probably a bit down on the drive, but the sound that i know is not there is that "clack" which adds to the sound.
Ill assume cliff isnt playing at the bridge or it has to do with his his string height
That "clang" you talk about is from Aria bass...just got one and it sounds dead on...and of course hard hitting tone...but my rig was otherwise the same...neither my precision nor my embassy basses were getting it right...and the drive sounded good to me...aria completely nailed it
IMPORTANT: Cliff used pedals to help achieve his sound in the early 80s stuff. You can hear his Big Muff pedal and Morley Power-Wah on the epic Anesthesia: Pulling Teeth track. He was also known to use an early version of the Ibanez Tube Screamer. He is rumored to have used a Peavy Mark-IV early on before switching to Randall RBA-500s and Mesa Boogie D-180 200W heads.
He used a Sunn Coliseum head up until RTL.
"Or u can steal one like I did" 💀
Can you do Robert Trujillo's bass tine next. His deep crunchy tone sounds just as cool
You should make a video on how to get Brian Marshall from the group Creed bass tone.
Bro, you've got a great ear
I'm super close, however I would take the pickguard off cuz I think he would hit it around where you're picking it in the video, two around on the pickup
Que belleza de sonido🤤🤤🤤😍😍😍escuchar el bajo
Very close!
For the master of puppets album, Cliff was using the Aria Pro ii SB series bass, which has 1 pickup in the middle, rather than closer to the bridge. If you want a KEA tone, then go for a Rick.
Bruh that action
How to get every white mans tone, quickly and accurately. Turn up all treble and gain, turn up all mids, and most importantly, turn down all bass tones.Now turn up the amp volume and go have some fun.😮😮😮
I recognized Orion by hearing only bass line and I'm really proud of myself.
Rickenbackers are stupidly expensive basses. But that bass and the Aria bass were what made the Cliff Burton sound.
Can you do one of theses with Jaco Pastorius bass tone please ? Btw cliff burton, a killer tone 🔥
Those are light strings? How light we talkin? Sounds heavy🤘🏽😭
Cliff used .035 gauge if my memory serves me right
I have found that 30-95 are the easiest option to buy and get you in the area tonewise. Depending on what pickups you're using I would strongly recommend using DR strings as they seem to bring out a lot of the harmonic qualities you find in Cliff's playing. I use Hi-Beams or Black Beauties but, the Black Beauties are particularly suitable for the Bill Lawrence Humbucker I've got in my bass, may not be the best for yours although id recommend trying them at least once to see.
Ive found that they bend really nicely up on the higher frets and always go back into tune and they are tapered over the bridge saddles allowing you to get the action down nice and low. Lastly, get your pickup height set right and you'll get the best volume from the strings and remember to practice the right hand techniques he used. The angles of attack are very subtle but the sound he got from these are hugely noticeable.
Apologies if I'm "preaching to the converted" I've been playing Metallica since I was a teenager and I've watched his playing quite closely. Just trying to help a fellow bassist or perhaps behs-isst 😂
@@restojon1 that makes so much more sense, ive been using flatwound 40s on a shortscale stingray to get the tone but its an absolute pain to play prolonged.
i love behs with one keh
doesn't sound that even close. All you have to do to get the fat master of puppets tone is a p bass, crank mid and treb, add a little bass, some overdrive (preferably tube screamer) and dig in HARD with your fingers
It’s kind of opposite how to get James tone which turns the midrange off, at least he used to back before sobriety and therapy ruined Metallica
Perfect!
Dig this channel. Started at 15 and now 48. Guys please stop the tone request and do your own. Have your own voice. That part of what being a bass player is all about. And that's just the beginning. Keep thumbing ✌️
The few times I dabbled with the behs I tried to play his stuff. I was obsessed with Metallica at the time, so any time I'd have the chance to pick up a behs I'd play For Whom the Bell Tolls.
Epic videos sir
Don't forget to tell your guitarist to turn down his volume so you can really appreciate the mids in the bass!
Nice Embassy bass! The Rich's sick too of course
Sounds similar... Less beefy but also muddy, I reckon. IMO It actually sounds better. 💪
RIP CB
You need more gain on that for sure!
Lol, borrow a bass and play on that you already have. That's my favourite step
*Español*
Básicamente súbele a los bajos y los medios y bajale a los altos.
También no utilices la perilla de tono del bajo ya que así lo utilizaba Cliff.
ORION. That band was never the same after Clifford Burton.
Do Peter Steele next
Nobody will touch cliff he was the only metallica bassist that had his own unique sound and his own technique
COOL
I personally think the mid, and bass should be cranked up more. Along with playing in between the pickups, get that sound a lot better, as opposed to the sort of plucking sound from the fingers.
Cliff didn’t record Orion on a rickenbacker
Figured he would play closer to the neck with how much the strings are slapping the frets/pickup in the recording
Bays tone? San Francisco Bay?
Do Nigel Bamford fro Discharge (request #3)
You need to turn the BEHS way more up dude
I wanna see the tone for Anesthesia, Cliff’s solo track in Kill ‘Em All.
Maybe a little bit more of gain and you got this perfectly.
Pretty good except that Clifford is obviously galloping on those strings way closer to the neck as opposed to near the bridge and he also uses medium gauge 🤘🏻
Love the channel..I hope Danny gets a signature Bass like an EB-3...cuz that Davie504 signature bass ..well....
can you recreate the swans bass tone
Behs ton in therty saekends
B. E. H. S
interesting, "How to get Paul Grey tone" (IOWA)
that tone you hear is straight Aria not a Rickenbacker
GEHN
IT'S ABOUT DRIVE IT'S ABOUT POWER.
Just get a distortion pedal....
Do dave riley of big black pleaaassse
Me at the beginning: "Well, he's got overdrive on for sure, crank the mids + keep the bass at mid-high," turns out I got a good ear!
It sounds like his old voice is coming back
Keep in mind he played Orion on his Aria signature bass, and his Rickenbacker had all its pickups swapped out for different ones anyway
It wasn't a signature bass...stock Aria pro 2
may cliff rip
That tone is killer 🤘
he actually modified his rick pickups. both were not rickenbacker pickups.
1) Record fart
2) Amplify fart
3) ???
4) Profit!
P.s. Cliffs who convinced me to take bass when it was the most unpopular instrument to play in a band. RIP. ❤ ALWAYS
Cliff actually installed some kind of Seymour Duncan guitar pickup behind his bridge pickup. Cliff called it his secret weapon. If you look for pictures of his burgondy Rickenbacker you can see the pickup.
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Great video Danny! :)
Behs is a totally different art form to plain old bass 🤜🤛
Don’t they sell hybrid string packs?
Well actually, cliff didn't use a rickenbacker for master of puppets
Robert levon been behs tones from BRMC plz ! Thx for your vids !
Thankyou Danny,all good stuff.
Would still love to hear your opinion on Matt Freeman.
Day 43 of asking for Mudvayne/ryan martini’s bass tone
i have a rickenbacker 4003 myself lol. i got mine for 2000 euros tho
The song you used for example is not the rickenbacker
Very good advice, but in my opinion it must be a *mixture of both neck and bridge pick up…*
I would try using a Fender jazz bass for that sound.😅
Sounds like every other bass with distortion and the treble rolled off. Doesnt sound that much like Cliff..
I don’t think I remember hearing any bass in Metallica albums