We decided to cut off testing around the 30-minute mark since it was still running without issue at that point, whereas we could kill 2-3 GBT PSUs in that same time. For those of you asking what's supposed to happen, hopefully this helps! Feel free to leave more requests below! For context, watch our speedrun of a Gigabyte PSU failing this same test: ruclips.net/video/7JmPUr-BeEM/видео.html Watch Part 1 (Gigabyte PSU Fires): ruclips.net/video/aACtT_rzToI/видео.html Part 2 (Response to Gigabyte): ruclips.net/video/Xts3pvbcFos/видео.html Get behind-the-scenes videos about other PSU testing as hosted by Patrick Stone: www.patreon.com/gamersnexus
is this the same quality as the 650W version? i have the same model but the only difference is the wattage, looks like i've gone with the right choice :)
Just wanted to ask but do the power supply cables used for testing matter? I didn't see Patrick swap out the cables for the ones that are included with the EVGA power supply. Are they interchangeable with the Gigabyte ones? Thanks!
@@MegumiKato. Modular power supply cables are not typically interchangeable, and even if you can plug them into different PSUs, you shouldn't. You can actually damage your components if you try to do that. I know some people who have killed some SSDs doing this. I'm assuming that Patrick prepped their testing equipment with EVGA cables prior to filming to save time.
@@konga382 Indeed, that is the exact reason why I asked. It was a single cut wherein Steve brought in a brand new EVGA power supply with Patrick in the middle of swapping out the fuse in the test equipment. I did not see the cables being swapped out from the testing equipment and I was just curious about it since I had the impression that they just got a brand new, yet to be unboxed unit, for testing.
I'd like to see the same tests run on a Corsair RM-750x, just cause it seems to be a PSU that a lot of people have, and I think many would like to see how it behaves in these situations. Perhaps you could do a "grab bag" style video (or most likely series) where you bring in some of the most popular power supplies, and put them through your OPP cycle, just to showcase how various non-explosive PSUs handle overloads.
PLEASE give the camera operator at 4:20 a raise.....they actually increased the shutter speed to match the frequency of the tester's display refresh rate and actually lowered the ISO or increased the F-stop to compensate for the increased exposer. Not many camera operators pay attention to that kind of detail, even on "professional" channels.
It’s great that you guys used a pretty budget PSU as well. This way, A) no one can come back with some smarmy comment about a baller PSU being overbuilt, and B) GB can’t use price and down-costing as an excuse. Can’t wait to see the AresGame review.
Anything wrong with the AresGame ones? I got one running in an older sidebuild, 500W one, and its been fine for now. Its only a 4690k/gtx680, so not being stressed too much.
@@igameidoresearchtoo6511 No, modern GPUs are way more "spiky" with their power consumption. Maybe just for a few ms, but they can go way above their normal power usage.
I've had an EVGA 750 G2 for years (can't even remember how many) through multiple system rebuilds, and plenty of overclocking, it's been rock solid. I'm glad to hear they continue to deliver good stuff.
I have exactly the same model. I bought it because it had a 9.8/10 score from Johny Guru, and was available for a good price, and it had a 10 year warranty. Your power supply is probably still under warranty even now.
850 G2 that i got for free after doing some work for a family friend because they spilled a drink in it. I replaced a capacitor and it's been going strong since.
Gigabyte deserves this 'grilling', especially after they tried to blame their problems on the reviewers testing, rather than just owning their mistake and fixing it...
@@EminemLovesGrapes Because massive companies do not care until most of the public is voicing complaints so smaller infulences have to repeat themselves when they find an issue. Gigabyte has idiots defending them just like Blizzard does, just less because they don't make interactive products.
@@ReCkLeSsErr0r I mean it is Built Overkill. Both are. The Issue is in the Protection System that gets triggered to late in the Gigabyte PSU and thats when something gets rostet there. If for example it would trigger at 130% instead of 136% then it would be fine.
11:33 Stone is dead on with his answer. As an engineer in the aviation industry, we have reliability engineers dedicated to stress analysis. Making sure that the product will meet it's target service life. Check out NAVSEA SD-18 Derating Standard
In my case, I derate myself by telling people I'm a useless piece of crap, so that when shit hits the fan they're not disappointed in my performance and knew exactly what not to expect from me. Spot on parallel with multiple industries here, I gather.
I'm so glad that i "settled" for the EVGA SuperNova 850W GA psu when I upgraded my PC about 6 weeks ago!!! Thank you very much for your continued honest work in reviewing products unbiased!
Oh snap, I actually picked up this PSU for my first ever PC build in December and was worried the video was going to show it failing as well, so glad to see I made a good choice with this one!
@@jtsyo8364 wrong. Some of them were reported to be dead on arrival. I sure as fuck wouldn’t be trusting my expensive ass pc to a power supply that doesn’t perform how it’s supposed too. Accepting this shit from companies is why so many shit companies are still around. If we as customers are going to buy something we shouldn’t expect mediocrity.
To be fair, Gigabyte have made some good PSUs in the past, and I've used other stuff made by them (mostly motherboards) fairly reliably. The big problem here is that they aren't seriously acknowledging the problem these PSUs have. With this sort of corporate attitude, I'd be very hesitant to buy anything Gigabyte right now.
decade old PSUs might win "better than gigabyte" and in those days PSUs were considered part of case purchase and came pre-installed . even they didnt explode this much
@@rodh1404 true, with this new MSI type attitude. it'll be difficult to choose their product going forward. Mayeb some MSI officials moved to Gigabyte and started their cost cutting games
I bought a SuperNova 650 G2 years ago based on the review on JonnyGuru's pages, and I've been using it in a gaming/work from home (graphics & video editing) rig. The thing continues to work fantastically 8 years on now.
Really appreciate you doing this vid. While it was obvious how the other one failed, it's nice to have context for how a properly functioning PSU works.
Power supplies don't get the love they deserve. The most important part of any system is relegated to a boring "box of electronics". So kudos to Gigabyte for bringing them into focus.
Thanks Steve! (and Patrick!) I feel even better about my EVGA power supply after this video. I assumed their quality was good based on long term reviews, but this looks good.
He'll let go if the company involved behaves responsibly. Gigabyte did not, so he's ramping up the pressure so that there's no excuses left for Gigabyte.
That’s funny: I was choosing exactly between those two 750W PSU’s in January :) Thanks God I chose the EVGA one! Thanks for such a good investigative videos!
Owner of a 5 year old EVGA Supernova 750w and its put up with every upgrade I've thrown at it to power; all the way up to a Ryzen 2600X and Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon 5700XT, an armload of SSD and HDD totaling about 12 terabytes, 32 gigs of ram, and 7 fans ranging from 140mm to 200mm. If I ever upgrade that power supply it's going to be a EVGA Supernova 1000w because my trust in them is rock solid
- The Sun, it's hot, and has gotten even hotter and bigger despite all the efforts on counteracting its side effects. All carbon based life is suffering and will end soon on planet earth, in my corporeal existence, I reviewed hot products, but none of them got close to this. At least the earth survivors are traveling out of this planet to terraform somewhere else. Stephen B. Bionic, circa 1,250,000 CE
Gotta say, I really enjoy this 'discussion' style of video. It's nice to have Steve talking directly to me, but I've always enjoyed listening to two enthusiasts enthuse together.
I have no interest in a psu atm, but i love the investigative journalism, thank you to all the gn team involved, i watched the full video, and never skipped the ad;) Thank you for going on principal to such lenth to show us the issues
I think when this saga is all over we need a playlist for this so we have an easy way to remind companies what happens when they do something like this
Companies really are pretty stupid when they deny things. Everyone knows "drama" attracts multiples more attention than an average positive review. Product passes - people see it, they discuss Test fails - more people see it, more discussions on what the problem can be, but it's still not that bad. Deny the failed test and mounting evidence of a true problem? - that's how you go "viral".
18:00 "You know, EVGA you're hurting my channel performance right now with your functioning power supply." I'm dead, lol. I've used the same EVGA Nex750B for 2 builds and have had zero issues with explosions. My name just happens to be a pleasant coincidence.
I think you addressed it: the failure of a power supply is not the end of the discussion. It's what happens afterward, whether the vendor will own their mistakes and make things right - that's what makes the difference. This testing regimen is designed to separate the wheat from the chaff, and I do believe it does that quite well. Thanks again.
evga is actually cool tho. even when they're 3090s were getting bricked, they immediately replaced any bricked units. super cool of them to do that and it shows how companies should handle issues with their products
@@supervillain3213 not really the games fault when the fan controller things it should run at 230000rpm and burns itself to death. Its a problem reproducible in other games as well btw. New world only made the problem more noticeable due to no framlititer in the loading the screen but its not their fault
EVGA does change their PSU partners like people changing their underwear though. So it's a mixed bag of bad, decent, and good units depending on the model. I think there are like... 10+ different G series 80+ gold PSUs under EVGA now...with the best being G2, G3, and the new G6.
@@GPSaBu yep. G6>G2>G3>GT>G+>G5>GA>GQ>GD G6: good Seasonic unit. G2: good Superflower unit. G3: decent Superflower unit, some had protection issues. Loud at high load. GT: decent HEC unit. G+: FSP built ACRF unit. Inferior to well designed LLC resonant units. G5: FSP built ACRF unit. A good bit worse than tye G+. GA: Andyson built LLC resonant PSU with some problems. GQ: FSP built ACRF unit. Mediocre performance, lacks a MOV. GD: meh. Don't remember who built it. Might be an FSP ACRF unit. Worse than the bronze rated B5.
@@GPSaBu indeed. I got a G3 and it has worked perfectly for years. I went through a phase when I tried overclocking and tripped the opp a few times (which was good). It is still in my rig working just fine.
Really happy with my EVGA PSUs. Have had a 1300 watt supernova G2 for 8 years and still going strong. Just replaced it with a new 1000 watt supernova for a new build just because of age but it is certainly not retired. Glad to see these working how they should and thanks for these videos.
I really like Patrick Stone's presence and interaction/chemistry between Steve and him. He's the 'Anthony' _(from LTT)_ of Gamers Nexus, heh. I mean this in a very positive way _(love seeing Anthony's videos)._ His past really shows, the teaching aspect. That formality and structured way of speaking comes through. Really love it.
Anthony has a much better voice (dude can sound like a trailer announcer with very little effort), but Stone is really good at making in-depth technical stuff like this sound genuinely interesting.
No, no, no, you see, it's a feature of our power supplies. Permanent Over Power Protection, or as we like to call it, POP! for short. This feature alerts the user in a quite audible and visible manner when it's been tripped thus letting the user know that it's time for their regularly scheduled RMA process to begin. ~Gigabyte (probably)
I just bought this exact power supply two weeks ago and it died while I was using my computer. Heard an audible pop, and now the computer doesn’t turn on. Not buying it again.
11:34 For car enthusiast you can see the same way as the Rev limiter. The engine's wear vs how far will you go ratio is dependant on the Rev. The optimal range is ~1000rpm up to ~4000rpm. If the engine's rev limiter is say 10k, there's probably a good "8k to 10k" in the red zone. As the engine turn over faster and faster, components inside wear out faster because it generate more heat and the oil pump can only push so much. You can hit your engine with a good 9/10k RPM without damage and it will be fine just don't hold it for several minutes at 8k+. Same thing for the PSU here. The only difference, the component deliver electricity instead of mechanical power and the components can chemically degrade.
I'm one of those who generally goes to SeaSonic, but it is because of the detailed reviews of the specific power supplies I was considering. I love that you're starting to focus on PSUs, as they're so often overlooked.
I was building a new machine earlier this year and was in the market for a power supply. I'm so very happy I went with EVGA. Thanks for holding manufacturers to account, guys.
How amazing. GN team knew it's gonna be a boring video but they did it because viewers asked for it. Thanks Steve! And thanks for the whole team. Now back to you Steve!
I think some of the first gen Super Nova PSUs from EVGA did actually have some serious problems, but, to my knowledge, EVGA didn't try to pretend that its products were fine, and handled the situation a lot better than how Gigabyte is handling things now.
If you learned from Jonny Guru, you learned from the master! Glad to see you testing PSU's and I love the way you have held Gigabyte's feet to the fire!
Hey Steve, can you do a video with all the staff members where everyone tells a little bit of background about them? And also what they currently do in GN? I especially want to know about the Patricks, cause I always mix them up.
Hoping to! Haha, it'll likely be on a side channel but we will promote it via the GN Community Page once we do one. Need to get through some backlogged content.
The fact that the fuse in the tester didn't blow (reading were still on the display), means your mobo, graphics card, processor and SSD aren't going to damaged by this EVGA PSU. Compare that with the gigabyte PSU, which clearly sent something nasty to the tester as it died.
Gotta say a big thank you to all of Gamers Nexus for doing these kind of tests and doing them in such an open way for us to see. The work you do is incredibly important for us consumers and we all really appreciate it, even if Gigabyte might not.
So glad you pointed out that just because a brand has done good in the past, doesn't mean every product they make is great. Over MANY years of building computers for myself, friends & family, and customers, even the companies I've been pretty brand loyal to, produce a model I have had issues with. That being said, since you pointed out Seasonic, I've used a LOT of Seasonic PSU's in builds, and the big thing that sold me on that company was early when trying their PSU's, I had one that had the wrong modular cables. I contacted them thru their contact form, and oddly received a response back in less than an hour. They not only apologized for the mixup (which can happen with any product), but they over-nighted me 2 sets of replacement cables. It's not a matter of if a company produces a bad product, or has a mix-up like in my example, it's how they respond to and treat their customer that is important to me.
I tripped OPP on my old Cooler Master PSU probably 15 times or more and it’s still alive 13 years later. It’s retired now though, it did last 10 years of continuous use.
I would add a bit on the "Seasonic" part is that they have been consistently putting out good PSU's that, whenever independently tested and analyzed, do work well and as advertised or better. Sure, Seasonic can produce a lemon, but based on years upon years of their PSU's building up a good reputation, chances are lower. And if they do indeed make a lemon, it is more plausible they will act on it to keep intact the goodwill they garner from their reputation, as that alone will keep driving them sales for free.
I agree, their reputation is PSUs not a generic brand for bought in back end stuff so they have to look after their name. I have been impressed with the Corsair PSUs but Seasonic would get the nod too. I still have a Dong Fung PSU ( Aywun) that came with a case and it will never be used in anything I build. Any company that tries to brazen out of its failure is not due much respect. Any brand can have failures but it's what they do about it like apologising and replacing it without quibble rather than blaming the messenger or saying flat out it was misused as a first response.
@@RonanLamour HIgh-end Corsair are Seasonic. But the most most people are buying (the average range ones) are Superflower. Also many EVGA units (like the one in the video) are Superflower.
@@kaldogorath Except that there are several ranges at Super Flower and we know that the top of the range of Super Flower is much more reliable than the top of the range Seasonic
tbf, I worked in a PC Shop and from all the manufacturers we had RMAs of, Seasonic, our main PSU brand, never had an RMA case and it was like 40-50% of the PSUs we sold, the other 50% were split between around 10 different brands. In 3 years, I have witnessed like 20 dead BeQuiets, 30 FSPs and a few LC Powers, never once a Seasonic. I know, that is still a small sample size, but that made me trust Seasonic quite a lot. tbf, I personally still have a 1000 Watt Corsair in my System, but when I rework it, it will get a Seasonic too.
Thank you GN! for doing a review on this PSU, I bought it a few months ago and there was absolutely no proper reviews of it anywhere! Big Thanks to you guys I now know what I bought. lol
I had the Gigabyte 750W in my system since February, and these videos showed me I needed a different power supply! Makes me feel even better that I switched to EVGA
As long as it's a G6,G2,G3 or Gt you should be good but EVGA does make bad PSU's as well. I listed in that order due to from my understanding that is the order of their best quality PSU's from best to worst.
@@666Daheretic EVGA has a rock solid reputation when it comes to PSUs because even their "low quality" options are heavily reliable and won't take your system with them even if they do go.
@@ZazzilasArden Are you willing to die on that hill? EVGA N1-N2/ W2 on the PSU tier list is considered potentially dangerous in multiple situations, in fact they have a wide variety of extremely subpar units. Did you not watch the video? Steve said not to rely on brand alone and you are blindly saying shit because More cases then not EVGA does have good PSUs made
@@twanc156 I'm not "blindly saying shit". I'm speaking from what I acknowledge to be anecdotal experience, but it is experience nonetheless. I've been a computer technician for ten years and have been building custom PCs with free tech support as a side gig for fifteen. EVGA's PSUs are the only ones that have never failed on me in 15 years. I've had Gigabyte, Corsair, and even Seasonic PSUs pop and smoke on me or my customers, but it has literally never happened in the systems I built with an EVGA PSU. All brands have their unfavorable cheaper models, yes, but the ones that popped on me were not those models. I don't cheap out on power supplies.
GN is my go to honest and upfront review channel. The effort u guys put into gathering data and showcasing it in a comprehensive manner is a huge attraction for me and the reason why I watch ur channel. Any possibility to run a PSU review on the corsair sf750? Planning a build here using it hence ur honest thoughts would be great on it.
I've had an EVGA 750W supernova G3 for just under four years now. I selected that one as it was modular (most others weren't) and was marketed with a whopping 10 year warranty, meaning I probably won't need to worry about buying a new PSU when I upgrade no matter how far off in the future that might be. Good to see its little brother doing it right.
I think that sums it up really well. I only use cheap PSUs because I trust that even they were designed by real engineers who did their best so that the PSU fails safely and correctly when (NOT IF with PSUs) something goes wrong. (Never been disappointed by the way, even the ones that failed did so safely and for legit reasons.) That Gigabyte thinks its fine if their fairly expensive by my standards PSU fails destructively and incorrectly as long as it is outside normal use parameters is just incomprehensible to me.
I've had an EVGA 750 SuperNOVA G2 for over 6 years now through multiple systems and it's been rock solid. With my workloads, the fan barely runs and when it does, it's dead quiet. When it comes to PSUs, I tend to recommend theirs above most along with Seasonic as well. FWIW, all of the EVGA products that I've owned, especially their GPUs, have been great and their customer service, from everything I've seen, is top notch should you need it. Just a good example of a brand that understands customer service.
EVGA and Seasonic have some pretty bad PSUs, recommendations should be based on products and not brands. As example, that is like recommending a Nvidia GPU because you had great experience with a 1080Ti, even though the person might be looking at a 1030, while they could buy a much better RX560 for the same price. That example might be exaggerated, but the point is the same for basically anything, when the product is good, then brands can be important due to warranty, RMA and CS, but if the product is bad then that doesn't mean much. And in the PSU case, I wouldn't count personal experience as enough to recommend it to someone, while the G2 is a good power supply, even when talking about bad PSUs like the Gigabyte one, I'm sure there are people that had no issues with it and would have gladly recommend them.
I had a new EVGA G5 that shredded a custom cable, because as it turned out two pins in the PSU were bent and recessed. It caused me 3 weeks of head-scratching issues. I returned it for a refund.
Thanks. This gave me some peace of mind. Currently using the 850 Watt version of this (EVGA) power supply that I "won" in my new egg shuffle for an EVGA FTW Nvidia 3090. (Around ($2199 so not a HORRIBLE deal, all things considered) And although I would feel more comfortable running my rig with a 1000 watt supply, (Paired with an non overclocked Intel 9900k), I now feel I'm safely within the margins from both a power quality aspect and a component safety aspect as well. Even though you later claim to basically take it all with a grain of salt when it comes to manufacturers and specific claims and real world usage, I now feel my "sodium" level is now within a basic healthy daily requirement. :) . Given what we know about current component shortages and market trends, I get the feeling I may be sitting on my current configuration for next couple of years. I really appreciate the time and effort you have put into this. I have HAD a healthy respect for Gigabyte in the marketplace, my last 2 motherboards have been Gigabyte (Current Z390 Designare Model), and although this has nothing to do with motherboard performance and I still feel confident in THAT purchase, their public response to both you and this current situation has been a bit despicable. It's tough times. We are seeing corners be cut everywhere, (I'm looking at YOU Samsung 850 EVO), but mistakes DO happen. It's what we do after that that determines our character. Gigabyte failed more spectacularly than their power supplies on this one. Thanks for the info.
This makes me feel quite good since I have the exact same power supply that was tested so uneventfully. I have had several EVGA power supplies over the years and thus far none of them have had any issues whatsoever.
@Steve, thanks for being extremely thorough on this issue. Gigabyte has always been a notorious company with the support for me and my friends (specially the awful support system they have in India) in the past and this is another “feather on their cap”.
EVGA power supplies are just really damn good. I've been running a 550 watt one in my PC for the last few years and just upgrades to a 750 watt one and it works like a dream.
You joke that this functional PSU is bad for your youtube view count, but this is honestly one of the most educational bits of content on PSUs I've ever seen (along your 80plus explainer). This is the kind of quality content that I love about GN!
And will Gigabyte learn something or two based on seeing these results? Probably not. (Which is pretty low considering how a Dell OEM unit still manages to pass :/)
Dell has the whole system on their warranty so it makes sense they would try pretty hard to make sure they don't have to take the entire PC. Still, Dell can price it out gigabyte should be able
Well, to be fair, Seasonic is different from EVGA, Gigabyte and most PSU brands in that you have much better understanding of what you're actually getting even if you are buying based on brand alone. Specially if you're dealing with Seasonic retail, which - unless this has changed in recent years (highly doubtful), always come with only Japanese capacitors and generally very high quality components even when you're dealing with the absolute bottom of the barrel stuff which in case of Seasonic is currently the S12III series I believe (not counting gray box OEM stuff, which is still based on the same platform internally but at least historically had worse caps). Both EVGA and Gigabyte just put their name on power supplies manufactured by someone else and this is the case with most PSU brands. It's actually pretty rare for someone to deal with a PSU manufacturer directly, since the majority of PSU OEMs like SuperFlower (which most likely made that box on your desk if I had to guess) have a kind of "unknown" retail presence. They do sell their wares, but nobody really talks about 'em. Seasonic is the only real exception, their own retail brand is very well liked, trusted and known. I, for one, can confidently say I'd buy either SuperFlower or Seasonic PSU without having to check for reviews. The only reason I would want a review is to see how hard the PSU reviewer guy jizzed their pants from testing the latest masterpiece... and I'm only half joking. This is not to say that Seasonic, SuperFlower or whatever else top tier manufacturer is incapable of making a dud. it's just unlikely to the point of being implausible. Kind of like getting hit with a meteor. I only know of 1 proper dud Seasonic has released and it wasn't even under their own brand name. More than 10 years ago also.
@@calypsojordana3274 Except they are not given how nebulous the term "top of the range" really is. Some are made by Seasonic and some are made by FSP. Most people don't buy top of the line anyway so whever makes the one titanium unit at the top of the stack is irrelevant. I was wrong about Seasonic, their dirt low end is actually rebrands not made by them. So turns out this doesn't even apply there. S12III is made by Shenzhen Ruishengyuan Technology and does not have Japanese capacitors but rather Teapo. They are still 105C caps and Teapo is good but it's much less of a luxury product than you'd expect from Seasonic. It's only equivalent to the best budget offerings from other brands.
I've been running a $30 B-Stock Supernova G2 for a few years, I managed to trip OCP a few times on it trying to benchmark a PowerColor Red Devil 13 290x2, still works fine 😅
My Corsair AX860 860w PSU that I got with my i7 4790k Rig in 2014 is a SeaSonic unit in disguise based on what reviewers have said and it is still going strong after close to 7 years of off and on service. It is now powering its 2nd PC. POPP permanent overpower protection I like that statement because it fits the Gigabyte units that you guys tested perfectly because like mentioned by another viewer those power supplies did go POPP.
Really cool to hear you guys were mentored directly by JonnyGuru - I still sometimes instinctively direct people there when they're shopping for power supplies, forgetting it's been defunct for years. Someone's gotta carry the torch!
I'm actually enjoying this series because Stone is so chill as he runs these tests. These are way more entertaining than any electronic testing videos have any right to be.
I see nothing wrong with the Gigabyte's approach, their application of POPp Permanent Over Power protection, which includes audible and visual indicators, seems to be an effective approach. The ability of the Gigabyte PSU to alert external agencies (fire fighters) when it activates when unattended could be a positive benefit? Perhaps other manufacturers might have already looked into POPping their PSU but found that the negative feedback to the Gigabyte approach was too large an overhead.
I've used at least 10 of the EVGA 750 GA Supernova 80+ Gold in builds I've done for customers and no issues at all. EVGA is easily one of the best power supplies on the market.
@Ethereal Audio I would go with the EVGA all day, myself. Not saying there's anything wrong with Cooler Master, just personally prefer EVGA since I've never had an issue with their product.
I don't know if corsair PSU's are good these days anymore, but back in the day, I purchased a 750w unit. Not the builder series, which was apparently crap, but the non-modular rm series. I've had it for about 10 years now and it is still powering my system today. The PSU has seen about 7-8 different mobos in that time with various graphics cards and suchs.
Great video you guys! I'm personally running a Corsair RM750x psu in my system and had it for about 4 months now and it is great, no issues so far. I've heard of companies like Seasonic, EVGA, and Be Quiet who supposedly make great psu's. I cannot vouche on behalf of those companies but as for Corsair psu's, so far so good. Keep up these great and informative videos @GN
Lol love the end and this is why this is my favorite review outlet the honesty from all of you at GN. Thanks for showing us both sides of the PSU testing.
As Steve said, the tester is basically a space heater. It's so hot in their office that they only wear clothes during filming. The lengths GN is willing to go is just amazing.
Stone's on-screen presence has improved so quickly since his first appearance on that Patreon BTS video! Doesn't seem far away from hosting a video solo!
had a cable come loose on my first seasonic ever.... but they replaced it no problem and ended up working well. Great point about context and individual products
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We decided to cut off testing around the 30-minute mark since it was still running without issue at that point, whereas we could kill 2-3 GBT PSUs in that same time. For those of you asking what's supposed to happen, hopefully this helps! Feel free to leave more requests below!
For context, watch our speedrun of a Gigabyte PSU failing this same test: ruclips.net/video/7JmPUr-BeEM/видео.html
Watch Part 1 (Gigabyte PSU Fires): ruclips.net/video/aACtT_rzToI/видео.html
Part 2 (Response to Gigabyte): ruclips.net/video/Xts3pvbcFos/видео.html
Get behind-the-scenes videos about other PSU testing as hosted by Patrick Stone: www.patreon.com/gamersnexus
is this the same quality as the 650W version? i have the same model but the only difference is the wattage, looks like i've gone with the right choice :)
Just wanted to ask but do the power supply cables used for testing matter? I didn't see Patrick swap out the cables for the ones that are included with the EVGA power supply. Are they interchangeable with the Gigabyte ones? Thanks!
@@MegumiKato. Modular power supply cables are not typically interchangeable, and even if you can plug them into different PSUs, you shouldn't. You can actually damage your components if you try to do that. I know some people who have killed some SSDs doing this.
I'm assuming that Patrick prepped their testing equipment with EVGA cables prior to filming to save time.
@@konga382 Indeed, that is the exact reason why I asked. It was a single cut wherein Steve brought in a brand new EVGA power supply with Patrick in the middle of swapping out the fuse in the test equipment. I did not see the cables being swapped out from the testing equipment and I was just curious about it since I had the impression that they just got a brand new, yet to be unboxed unit, for testing.
I'd like to see the same tests run on a Corsair RM-750x, just cause it seems to be a PSU that a lot of people have, and I think many would like to see how it behaves in these situations.
Perhaps you could do a "grab bag" style video (or most likely series) where you bring in some of the most popular power supplies, and put them through your OPP cycle, just to showcase how various non-explosive PSUs handle overloads.
Permanent overpower protection. That's POPP, which is the sound it makes.
Gigabyte logic. If it blows, it's forever protected! Nice one.
clever
🤣🤣nice one..
@@jvccr7533 Yep, the POPP system definitely protects everything; as example, your wallet is protected against over currency.
Pen Pineapple Apple Pen level of protection
Gigabyte should have named their power supply a super nova seems fitting.
hypernova even
@@thepotatocouch Think MSI might swap them the bazooka/mortar branding? seems more fitting for the gigabyte power supplies
Good ol' It Burns When Internet Protocol back in the comments!
lmao
@@GamersNexus Maybe they should named it : "GB-750W Sparkling RGB"
"you're hurting my channel performance right now with your functioning power supply" made me crack up so badly lmao
me too ahahahh
Other techtubers: "Steve's videos are too long and boring"
GN viewers: "Ah yes, 30 minutes of a PSU functioning normally, just what I needed"
Working PSU fan ASMR is best ASMR.
it's actually relaxing while playing a spacesim
I've never thought I would be able to laugh while watching a review of a functioning PSU, but here we are. LOL
10 hours of soothing PSU testing sounds
Lol. Because sometimes, nothing happening is a lot more satisfying than the world burning. 😂
PLEASE give the camera operator at 4:20 a raise.....they actually increased the shutter speed to match the frequency of the tester's display refresh rate and actually lowered the ISO or increased the F-stop to compensate for the increased exposer. Not many camera operators pay attention to that kind of detail, even on "professional" channels.
Was wondering what happened to all the refresh rates! So underrated comment. And you're so technical.
im a photosensitive viewer and this makes a huge difference wow, wouldnt have known it was the cameraman if not for your comment
Andy's the camera guy and he does do great work
@@chrislee6650 I can't take you seriously. You have the same name as my co-worker and he is mostly care-free and doesn't let small things bother him.
I thought it was the equipment stabilizing, thank you for this insight
Out of all media outfits, I love "certain media outfit" the most!
When a cat says it, you know it has some weight to it.
@@ThorsShadow weight to what? Their own opinion? Sure I guess.
@@dankone3 weight to a joke that you obviously didn't get
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I always appreciate seeing Steve in the comments for every upload even when it’s like 2am. Thanks Steve!
Back to you!
@@GamersNexus Thanks Steve
Steve phucken rocks!
Back to Yu!
No not Mi, Yu!
It’s great that you guys used a pretty budget PSU as well. This way, A) no one can come back with some smarmy comment about a baller PSU being overbuilt, and B) GB can’t use price and down-costing as an excuse. Can’t wait to see the AresGame review.
Please do a Montech power supply review also. It seems like they are budget oriented too.
Anything wrong with the AresGame ones? I got one running in an older sidebuild, 500W one, and its been fine for now. Its only a 4690k/gtx680, so not being stressed too much.
@@scottydoesntknow_99 That should stress it more than a modern average computer.
@@igameidoresearchtoo6511 No, modern GPUs are way more "spiky" with their power consumption. Maybe just for a few ms, but they can go way above their normal power usage.
@@t4w1m94 I meant in normal power usage, a 680 is a power hoarder pretty much, especially with an old high end intel processor.
I've had an EVGA 750 G2 for years (can't even remember how many) through multiple system rebuilds, and plenty of overclocking, it's been rock solid. I'm glad to hear they continue to deliver good stuff.
I have exactly the same model. I bought it because it had a 9.8/10 score from Johny Guru, and was available for a good price, and it had a 10 year warranty. Your power supply is probably still under warranty even now.
I have a EVGA 750 G5 Supernova. It's not as old as the G2 but I've had no issues thus far, a year and a half into its lifespan
Same. Been using for 8 years and recently replaced my gpu with a 3080. Still rock solid.
I just got a 1600 T2, looking forward to getting many years of good use out of it.
850 G2 that i got for free after doing some work for a family friend because they spilled a drink in it. I replaced a capacitor and it's been going strong since.
"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!" - Marvin The Martian
Its not only Marvin saying that at this point. Gigabyte execs are now saying the same.
Oh, no! The Illudium Pu-238 Explosive Space Modulator was made by GIGABYTE! Delays, delays!
Ah well. Back to the old drawing board.
Gigabyte deserves this 'grilling', especially after they tried to blame their problems on the reviewers testing, rather than just owning their mistake and fixing it...
Idk, if people didn't test the PSUs there would be less failures. /s
Grilling? They've got that one covered themselves!
It does feel like beating a dead horse after video 9 tbh
@@EminemLovesGrapes Because massive companies do not care until most of the public is voicing complaints so smaller infulences have to repeat themselves when they find an issue. Gigabyte has idiots defending them just like Blizzard does, just less because they don't make interactive products.
@@EminemLovesGrapes Seems like you are an enabler of shady business practices.
Refreshing to not see a PSU explode
Agreed, this isn’t the days of where defective capacitors were widespread.
The PSU’s should be built overkill rather than shitty and cheap.
... refreshing to see Patrick takes no risk, not wearing flipflops this time 😅
Found the Gigabyte QC employee 🤣
@@ReCkLeSsErr0r I mean it is Built Overkill. Both are. The Issue is in the Protection System that gets triggered to late in the Gigabyte PSU and thats when something gets rostet there. If for example it would trigger at 130% instead of 136% then it would be fine.
11:33 Stone is dead on with his answer. As an engineer in the aviation industry, we have reliability engineers dedicated to stress analysis. Making sure that the product will meet it's target service life. Check out NAVSEA SD-18 Derating Standard
Yep, in my case with space hardware EEE INST 002 and MIL HDBK 975 most often, but derating is key to a reliable design for sure!
@@supershiva11 I came from the opposite side of things, designing material handling equipment to a price point. Low duty cycle, over 100% rated power.
In my case, I derate myself by telling people I'm a useless piece of crap, so that when shit hits the fan they're not disappointed in my performance and knew exactly what not to expect from me. Spot on parallel with multiple industries here, I gather.
I'm so glad that i "settled" for the EVGA SuperNova 850W GA psu when I upgraded my PC about 6 weeks ago!!! Thank you very much for your continued honest work in reviewing products unbiased!
How's working the PSU for you? I want it for a 3080 TI
@@Crubik96 i'm very happy with the performance of the EVGA SuperNova 850W.. haven't had a hickup as of yet..
@@airbnbacon Glad to read this! What GPU and CPU do have?
@@Crubik96 I got a i7 11700K and a RTX 2060
Oh snap, I actually picked up this PSU for my first ever PC build in December and was worried the video was going to show it failing as well, so glad to see I made a good choice with this one!
Even the Gigabyte you would have been OK for regular PC use if it didn't go over the voltage.
@@jtsyo8364 wrong. Some of them were reported to be dead on arrival. I sure as fuck wouldn’t be trusting my expensive ass pc to a power supply that doesn’t perform how it’s supposed too. Accepting this shit from companies is why so many shit companies are still around. If we as customers are going to buy something we shouldn’t expect mediocrity.
Same bro I got mines a few months back and couldn't find any reviews on it, I was a little worried but now i can rest easy haha
Oh so THIS is what OPP looks like, gigabyte must have implemented OPD, over power destruction
That's how they designed it! LOL! Two OPPs then boom! Explosions!
Controlled detonation
OPE Overpower Electrocution
ohh sweet burn.
OPP yeah you know me.
Wait didn't they make a song about this?
Makes me think you need a "Well, it's better than Gigabyte" award for you power supply tests. :D
Lol "better than Gigabyte" means nothing, even a bad PSU which doesn't explode is better than Gigabyte :D
Well that reward would be on 99.99999% of all power supplies.
To be fair, Gigabyte have made some good PSUs in the past, and I've used other stuff made by them (mostly motherboards) fairly reliably. The big problem here is that they aren't seriously acknowledging the problem these PSUs have. With this sort of corporate attitude, I'd be very hesitant to buy anything Gigabyte right now.
decade old PSUs might win "better than gigabyte" and in those days PSUs were considered part of case purchase and came pre-installed . even they didnt explode this much
@@rodh1404 true, with this new MSI type attitude. it'll be difficult to choose their product going forward. Mayeb some MSI officials moved to Gigabyte and started their cost cutting games
I bought a SuperNova 650 G2 years ago based on the review on JonnyGuru's pages, and I've been using it in a gaming/work from home (graphics & video editing) rig. The thing continues to work fantastically 8 years on now.
“Is it ready?” “Yes we’ve just replaced the blown fuse from the gigabyte episode.” 😂 omfg I love the salt. They deserve every bit of it too!
When gigabyte said "casting doubt" about their power supplies, I already found the main issue of their manufacturing process. Belief > science
"The testing environment provided by some media outlets did not provide the level of positive vibes required by our power supplies"
@@friendlyoctopus9391 xDDD
Now I not only doubt their quality, I doubt their ethics too.
@@cat-.- But hey, they magically got hacked and cant warranty stuff now, they are victims you know.
Unfortunately not that uncommon with more than psu....bad trend
Really appreciate you doing this vid. While it was obvious how the other one failed, it's nice to have context for how a properly functioning PSU works.
Exactly. I watched the old one and didn't like that the PSU exploded.... but it's nice to see what should happen.
Power supplies don't get the love they deserve. The most important part of any system is relegated to a boring "box of electronics". So kudos to Gigabyte for bringing them into focus.
Gigabyte made a power supply out of a land mine
@@pencilcase8068 Gigabyte made a power supply *to be used* as a land mine
That was gigabytes plan all along. Bringing attention to psus!
Rumour has it that the expolsion in Afghanistan the other day was just the airports collection of GB psu's going pop in unison!
Can't agree more, having a good quality PSU is so underrated. The basis of any trouble free and stable system.
Thanks Steve! (and Patrick!)
I feel even better about my EVGA power supply after this video. I assumed their quality was good based on long term reviews, but this looks good.
A few weeks ago Linus said “Steve is like a dog with a bone, he doesn’t let go” on WAN Show. Watch GN ramping up the savagery is delightful.
I’m sure Steve was watching at that moment too, lol. If I was he certainly was
He'll let go if the company involved behaves responsibly. Gigabyte did not, so he's ramping up the pressure so that there's no excuses left for Gigabyte.
Underated comment XD This, and the video itself, had me howling with laughter XD
That’s funny: I was choosing exactly between those two 750W PSU’s in January :)
Thanks God I chose the EVGA one! Thanks for such a good investigative videos!
You dodged a bullet on that one! 😅
Owner of a 5 year old EVGA Supernova 750w and its put up with every upgrade I've thrown at it to power; all the way up to a Ryzen 2600X and Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon 5700XT, an armload of SSD and HDD totaling about 12 terabytes, 32 gigs of ram, and 7 fans ranging from 140mm to 200mm.
If I ever upgrade that power supply it's going to be a EVGA Supernova 1000w because my trust in them is rock solid
"Has a problem with thermals."
- Steve Burke, Earth review
"Too many bad drivers."
And commences to replace the oceans with liquid metal.
Too much bloatware
- The Sun, it's hot, and has gotten even hotter and bigger despite all the efforts on counteracting its side effects. All carbon based life is suffering and will end soon on planet earth, in my corporeal existence, I reviewed hot products, but none of them got close to this. At least the earth survivors are traveling out of this planet to terraform somewhere else.
Stephen B. Bionic, circa 1,250,000 CE
to much krypto miners
Gotta say, I really enjoy this 'discussion' style of video. It's nice to have Steve talking directly to me, but I've always enjoyed listening to two enthusiasts enthuse together.
I love the way Patrick is getting more comfortable in every video he does. Did he get zapped by the exploding Gigabytes?
Keeping the companies making components on their toes is great! Thanks for taking your time making this kind of content on your channel!
I have no interest in a psu atm, but i love the investigative journalism, thank you to all the gn team involved, i watched the full video, and never skipped the ad;)
Thank you for going on principal to such lenth to show us the issues
I think when this saga is all over we need a playlist for this so we have an easy way to remind companies what happens when they do something like this
Companies really are pretty stupid when they deny things. Everyone knows "drama" attracts multiples more attention than an average positive review.
Product passes - people see it, they discuss
Test fails - more people see it, more discussions on what the problem can be, but it's still not that bad.
Deny the failed test and mounting evidence of a true problem? - that's how you go "viral".
Some say that "any publicity is good publicity"
Who thinks this is Gigabyte's angle?
18:00 "You know, EVGA you're hurting my channel performance right now with your functioning power supply."
I'm dead, lol. I've used the same EVGA Nex750B for 2 builds and have had zero issues with explosions. My name just happens to be a pleasant coincidence.
I'm on my 3rd build with my Corsair CX750M.... Amazing how long you can use a properly functioning power supply
I think you addressed it: the failure of a power supply is not the end of the discussion. It's what happens afterward, whether the vendor will own their mistakes and make things right - that's what makes the difference. This testing regimen is designed to separate the wheat from the chaff, and I do believe it does that quite well. Thanks again.
I'm really enjoying the PSU content. I'd love to see more on this. The uncut footage and commentary is great.
evga is actually cool tho. even when they're 3090s were getting bricked, they immediately replaced any bricked units. super cool of them to do that and it shows how companies should handle issues with their products
*bricked by a game*
@@supervillain3213 yea, the amazon one. I couldn't remember the name of it so didn't wanna say in case I got it wrong
@@supervillain3213 not really the games fault when the fan controller things it should run at 230000rpm and burns itself to death. Its a problem reproducible in other games as well btw. New world only made the problem more noticeable due to no framlititer in the loading the screen but its not their fault
Their warranty is seriously 10/10. Had one go bad right when COVID started and I had a replacement at my door in 2 days, despite it saying around 7-10
their
Not gonna lie, this makes me feel better about the evga power supply I have in my main rig. It's not the same one, but this is still reassuring
EVGA does change their PSU partners like people changing their underwear though. So it's a mixed bag of bad, decent, and good units depending on the model. I think there are like... 10+ different G series 80+ gold PSUs under EVGA now...with the best being G2, G3, and the new G6.
@@GPSaBu hence saying that I feel "better" about it. Not that I'm suddenly going to treat them as my new messiah...
@@GPSaBu yep. G6>G2>G3>GT>G+>G5>GA>GQ>GD
G6: good Seasonic unit.
G2: good Superflower unit.
G3: decent Superflower unit, some had protection issues. Loud at high load.
GT: decent HEC unit.
G+: FSP built ACRF unit. Inferior to well designed LLC resonant units.
G5: FSP built ACRF unit. A good bit worse than tye G+.
GA: Andyson built LLC resonant PSU with some problems.
GQ: FSP built ACRF unit. Mediocre performance, lacks a MOV.
GD: meh. Don't remember who built it. Might be an FSP ACRF unit. Worse than the bronze rated B5.
@@GPSaBu indeed. I got a G3 and it has worked perfectly for years. I went through a phase when I tried overclocking and tripped the opp a few times (which was good). It is still in my rig working just fine.
@@siripfreely How about GM?
Really happy with my EVGA PSUs. Have had a 1300 watt supernova G2 for 8 years and still going strong. Just replaced it with a new 1000 watt supernova for a new build just because of age but it is certainly not retired. Glad to see these working how they should and thanks for these videos.
"Power supplies that are well designed will not explode" That made me laugh more than it should have.
I really like Patrick Stone's presence and interaction/chemistry between Steve and him. He's the 'Anthony' _(from LTT)_ of Gamers Nexus, heh. I mean this in a very positive way _(love seeing Anthony's videos)._
His past really shows, the teaching aspect. That formality and structured way of speaking comes through. Really love it.
Anthony has a much better voice (dude can sound like a trailer announcer with very little effort), but Stone is really good at making in-depth technical stuff like this sound genuinely interesting.
No, no, no, you see, it's a feature of our power supplies. Permanent Over Power Protection, or as we like to call it, POP! for short. This feature alerts the user in a quite audible and visible manner when it's been tripped thus letting the user know that it's time for their regularly scheduled RMA process to begin.
~Gigabyte (probably)
goddamnit, take my like
S tier comment
You forgot the "We take pride in our power supply design." and "Gigabyte is trusted by millions of customers worldwide."
It gives me so much comfort that I have this exact EVGA power supply in both my rigs. I am so happy you used this model for the test.
I just bought this exact power supply two weeks ago and it died while I was using my computer. Heard an audible pop, and now the computer doesn’t turn on. Not buying it again.
@@Jackson-ol5xt even the best power supplies arent immune to failure sometimes. Sorry for your misfortune.
11:34 For car enthusiast you can see the same way as the Rev limiter. The engine's wear vs how far will you go ratio is dependant on the Rev. The optimal range is ~1000rpm up to ~4000rpm. If the engine's rev limiter is say 10k, there's probably a good "8k to 10k" in the red zone. As the engine turn over faster and faster, components inside wear out faster because it generate more heat and the oil pump can only push so much. You can hit your engine with a good 9/10k RPM without damage and it will be fine just don't hold it for several minutes at 8k+.
Same thing for the PSU here. The only difference, the component deliver electricity instead of mechanical power and the components can chemically degrade.
I'm one of those who generally goes to SeaSonic, but it is because of the detailed reviews of the specific power supplies I was considering. I love that you're starting to focus on PSUs, as they're so often overlooked.
I was building a new machine earlier this year and was in the market for a power supply. I'm so very happy I went with EVGA. Thanks for holding manufacturers to account, guys.
How amazing. GN team knew it's gonna be a boring video but they did it because viewers asked for it. Thanks Steve! And thanks for the whole team. Now back to you Steve!
Gigabyte: EVGA had some False Advertisement with the “Super Nova” PSU
i'm dyiNG
@@Zi7ar21 See you on the other side
“Some PSU sellers”
That's all right. They can just brand it "The Lightning".
I think some of the first gen Super Nova PSUs from EVGA did actually have some serious problems, but, to my knowledge, EVGA didn't try to pretend that its products were fine, and handled the situation a lot better than how Gigabyte is handling things now.
GN's review of Earth: Meh... pre-used, wrapping appears to have holes in it... entire Australia server can kill you.
But would people believe if Steve revealed the Earth IS actually round? Nope, he'd be accused of false testing methodology and sensationalism. /s
The likes are at 69, otherwise I'd thumbs up. I won't be the one to ruin it.
Seems to be some sort of biological malware running amok at the moment
10 out of 10 Alien tourist have avoided this planet for a reason x)
As one Aussie server player I can't agree more.
If you learned from Jonny Guru, you learned from the master! Glad to see you testing PSU's and I love the way you have held Gigabyte's feet to the fire!
Would love to see a post mortem on the failed supplies to show exactly what types of components failed and the possible reasons they did fail.
they did that in their first video though.
Your testing methods and editorial direction is why I'm here. Thank you for your work
Hey Steve, can you do a video with all the staff members where everyone tells a little bit of background about them? And also what they currently do in GN? I especially want to know about the Patricks, cause I always mix them up.
Hoping to! Haha, it'll likely be on a side channel but we will promote it via the GN Community Page once we do one. Need to get through some backlogged content.
@@GamersNexus What are the side channels? Thanks Steve, Back to you!
His side channel is the one he posts bike riding on☺️
GNSteve is the side channel's name.
The fact that the fuse in the tester didn't blow (reading were still on the display), means your mobo, graphics card, processor and SSD aren't going to damaged by this EVGA PSU. Compare that with the gigabyte PSU, which clearly sent something nasty to the tester as it died.
The explosion in the Gigabyte PSUs is a result of a clean short, so the tester "only" sees a massive spike in current draw. Fuses are good 🙏
As the owner of a EVGA 750w Supernova that's around 5 years old now, this just makes me even happier with my choice
@@jckf good motherboard and GPU also have some kind of fuse but not always.
@@vadnegru even old Mobos have had SMD fuses on every USB port for years now,along with GPUs having them on the 12v lines.
@@vadnegru some do but the fuse isn't there for you, it's there for the RMA process to save the company testing time/money.
Gotta say a big thank you to all of Gamers Nexus for doing these kind of tests and doing them in such an open way for us to see. The work you do is incredibly important for us consumers and we all really appreciate it, even if Gigabyte might not.
So glad you pointed out that just because a brand has done good in the past, doesn't mean every product they make is great. Over MANY years of building computers for myself, friends & family, and customers, even the companies I've been pretty brand loyal to, produce a model I have had issues with.
That being said, since you pointed out Seasonic, I've used a LOT of Seasonic PSU's in builds, and the big thing that sold me on that company was early when trying their PSU's, I had one that had the wrong modular cables. I contacted them thru their contact form, and oddly received a response back in less than an hour. They not only apologized for the mixup (which can happen with any product), but they over-nighted me 2 sets of replacement cables.
It's not a matter of if a company produces a bad product, or has a mix-up like in my example, it's how they respond to and treat their customer that is important to me.
I tripped OPP on my old Cooler Master PSU probably 15 times or more and it’s still alive 13 years later. It’s retired now though, it did last 10 years of continuous use.
I would add a bit on the "Seasonic" part is that they have been consistently putting out good PSU's that, whenever independently tested and analyzed, do work well and as advertised or better. Sure, Seasonic can produce a lemon, but based on years upon years of their PSU's building up a good reputation, chances are lower. And if they do indeed make a lemon, it is more plausible they will act on it to keep intact the goodwill they garner from their reputation, as that alone will keep driving them sales for free.
Not to mention that all Seasonic Prime Series power supplies have a 12-year warranty (some evga too but that's pretty much it)
They have 3 independent psu testing facilities verify performance. On every line.
Corsair and evga both are seasonic
I agree, their reputation is PSUs not a generic brand for bought in back end stuff so they have to look after their name. I have been impressed with the Corsair PSUs but Seasonic would get the nod too. I still have a Dong Fung PSU ( Aywun) that came with a case and it will never be used in anything I build. Any company that tries to brazen out of its failure is not due much respect. Any brand can have failures but it's what they do about it like apologising and replacing it without quibble rather than blaming the messenger or saying flat out it was misused as a first response.
@@RonanLamour HIgh-end Corsair are Seasonic. But the most most people are buying (the average range ones) are Superflower. Also many EVGA units (like the one in the video) are Superflower.
@@kaldogorath Except that there are several ranges at Super Flower and we know that the top of the range of Super Flower is much more reliable than the top of the range Seasonic
Thanks Steve! Appreciate GN for taking the time to do this comparison. Arguably pointless but I'd like to see gigabyte call out the testing again :)
tbf, I worked in a PC Shop and from all the manufacturers we had RMAs of, Seasonic, our main PSU brand, never had an RMA case and it was like 40-50% of the PSUs we sold, the other 50% were split between around 10 different brands. In 3 years, I have witnessed like 20 dead BeQuiets, 30 FSPs and a few LC Powers, never once a Seasonic. I know, that is still a small sample size, but that made me trust Seasonic quite a lot. tbf, I personally still have a 1000 Watt Corsair in my System, but when I rework it, it will get a Seasonic too.
Thank you GN! for doing a review on this PSU, I bought it a few months ago and there was absolutely no proper reviews of it anywhere! Big Thanks to you guys I now know what I bought. lol
I had the Gigabyte 750W in my system since February, and these videos showed me I needed a different power supply!
Makes me feel even better that I switched to EVGA
As long as it's a G6,G2,G3 or Gt you should be good but EVGA does make bad PSU's as well. I listed in that order due to from my understanding that is the order of their best quality PSU's from best to worst.
@@666Daheretic EVGA has a rock solid reputation when it comes to PSUs because even their "low quality" options are heavily reliable and won't take your system with them even if they do go.
@@ZazzilasArden Are you willing to die on that hill? EVGA N1-N2/ W2 on the PSU tier list is considered potentially dangerous in multiple situations, in fact they have a wide variety of extremely subpar units. Did you not watch the video? Steve said not to rely on brand alone and you are blindly saying shit because More cases then not EVGA does have good PSUs made
@@666Daheretic It's a GA Supernova. I'm not concerned
@@twanc156 I'm not "blindly saying shit". I'm speaking from what I acknowledge to be anecdotal experience, but it is experience nonetheless. I've been a computer technician for ten years and have been building custom PCs with free tech support as a side gig for fifteen. EVGA's PSUs are the only ones that have never failed on me in 15 years. I've had Gigabyte, Corsair, and even Seasonic PSUs pop and smoke on me or my customers, but it has literally never happened in the systems I built with an EVGA PSU. All brands have their unfavorable cheaper models, yes, but the ones that popped on me were not those models. I don't cheap out on power supplies.
GN is my go to honest and upfront review channel. The effort u guys put into gathering data and showcasing it in a comprehensive manner is a huge attraction for me and the reason why I watch ur channel.
Any possibility to run a PSU review on the corsair sf750? Planning a build here using it hence ur honest thoughts would be great on it.
I guess Permanent OPP is a pretty good name for Gigabytes "feature": If it doesn't like your power consumption, it will go POPP!
I've had an EVGA 750W supernova G3 for just under four years now. I selected that one as it was modular (most others weren't) and was marketed with a whopping 10 year warranty, meaning I probably won't need to worry about buying a new PSU when I upgrade no matter how far off in the future that might be. Good to see its little brother doing it right.
Thanks for running a test with a normal power supply. Theory is great, but seeing it work practically makes the point completely clear.
We expect there will be more tech journalists like you GN guys, with healthy mentality and great logic. Amen.
Gigabyte: What is your opinion of our PSUs with OPP?
Steve and Patrick: We think it would be a good idea.
I think that sums it up really well. I only use cheap PSUs because I trust that even they were designed by real engineers who did their best so that the PSU fails safely and correctly when (NOT IF with PSUs) something goes wrong. (Never been disappointed by the way, even the ones that failed did so safely and for legit reasons.) That Gigabyte thinks its fine if their fairly expensive by my standards PSU fails destructively and incorrectly as long as it is outside normal use parameters is just incomprehensible to me.
I've had an EVGA 750 SuperNOVA G2 for over 6 years now through multiple systems and it's been rock solid. With my workloads, the fan barely runs and when it does, it's dead quiet. When it comes to PSUs, I tend to recommend theirs above most along with Seasonic as well.
FWIW, all of the EVGA products that I've owned, especially their GPUs, have been great and their customer service, from everything I've seen, is top notch should you need it. Just a good example of a brand that understands customer service.
EVGA and Seasonic have some pretty bad PSUs, recommendations should be based on products and not brands. As example, that is like recommending a Nvidia GPU because you had great experience with a 1080Ti, even though the person might be looking at a 1030, while they could buy a much better RX560 for the same price. That example might be exaggerated, but the point is the same for basically anything, when the product is good, then brands can be important due to warranty, RMA and CS, but if the product is bad then that doesn't mean much.
And in the PSU case, I wouldn't count personal experience as enough to recommend it to someone, while the G2 is a good power supply, even when talking about bad PSUs like the Gigabyte one, I'm sure there are people that had no issues with it and would have gladly recommend them.
@@kaitoux8413 Nice word salad.
I had a new EVGA G5 that shredded a custom cable, because as it turned out two pins in the PSU were bent and recessed. It caused me 3 weeks of head-scratching issues. I returned it for a refund.
Thanks. This gave me some peace of mind. Currently using the 850 Watt version of this (EVGA) power supply that I "won" in my new egg shuffle for an EVGA FTW Nvidia 3090. (Around ($2199 so not a HORRIBLE deal, all things considered) And although I would feel more comfortable running my rig with a 1000 watt supply, (Paired with an non overclocked Intel 9900k), I now feel I'm safely within the margins from both a power quality aspect and a component safety aspect as well. Even though you later claim to basically take it all with a grain of salt when it comes to manufacturers and specific claims and real world usage, I now feel my "sodium" level is now within a basic healthy daily requirement. :) . Given what we know about current component shortages and market trends, I get the feeling I may be sitting on my current configuration for next couple of years. I really appreciate the time and effort you have put into this. I have HAD a healthy respect for Gigabyte in the marketplace, my last 2 motherboards have been Gigabyte (Current Z390 Designare Model), and although this has nothing to do with motherboard performance and I still feel confident in THAT purchase, their public response to both you and this current situation has been a bit despicable. It's tough times. We are seeing corners be cut everywhere, (I'm looking at YOU Samsung 850 EVO), but mistakes DO happen. It's what we do after that that determines our character. Gigabyte failed more spectacularly than their power supplies on this one. Thanks for the info.
This makes me feel quite good since I have the exact same power supply that was tested so uneventfully. I have had several EVGA power supplies over the years and thus far none of them have had any issues whatsoever.
This is low key savage af and hilarious.
Loved this content!!! Happy to see the methodology used in testing PSU’s. Glad to see Patrick getting some airtime. You guys rock!!!👍👍👍
@Steve, thanks for being extremely thorough on this issue. Gigabyte has always been a notorious company with the support for me and my friends (specially the awful support system they have in India) in the past and this is another “feather on their cap”.
EVGA power supplies are just really damn good. I've been running a 550 watt one in my PC for the last few years and just upgrades to a 750 watt one and it works like a dream.
yeah my 650gq lasted 6 years before it went bang, luckily it was well built and did not damage any components
You joke that this functional PSU is bad for your youtube view count, but this is honestly one of the most educational bits of content on PSUs I've ever seen (along your 80plus explainer). This is the kind of quality content that I love about GN!
I love this series of GN gives a giant middle finger to Gigabyte series through thorough evaluation and demonstration videos
Thank you Steve & Co for having the most Integrity out of any journalist in America right now
And will Gigabyte learn something or two based on seeing these results?
Probably not. (Which is pretty low considering how a Dell OEM unit still manages to pass :/)
Do you want some guarantees with that?
Dell has the whole system on their warranty so it makes sense they would try pretty hard to make sure they don't have to take the entire PC. Still, Dell can price it out gigabyte should be able
Wasn't the Dell PSU a re-fitted server part? Aka a part you REALLY don't want to blow.
Well, to be fair, Seasonic is different from EVGA, Gigabyte and most PSU brands in that you have much better understanding of what you're actually getting even if you are buying based on brand alone. Specially if you're dealing with Seasonic retail, which - unless this has changed in recent years (highly doubtful), always come with only Japanese capacitors and generally very high quality components even when you're dealing with the absolute bottom of the barrel stuff which in case of Seasonic is currently the S12III series I believe (not counting gray box OEM stuff, which is still based on the same platform internally but at least historically had worse caps). Both EVGA and Gigabyte just put their name on power supplies manufactured by someone else and this is the case with most PSU brands. It's actually pretty rare for someone to deal with a PSU manufacturer directly, since the majority of PSU OEMs like SuperFlower (which most likely made that box on your desk if I had to guess) have a kind of "unknown" retail presence. They do sell their wares, but nobody really talks about 'em. Seasonic is the only real exception, their own retail brand is very well liked, trusted and known. I, for one, can confidently say I'd buy either SuperFlower or Seasonic PSU without having to check for reviews. The only reason I would want a review is to see how hard the PSU reviewer guy jizzed their pants from testing the latest masterpiece... and I'm only half joking.
This is not to say that Seasonic, SuperFlower or whatever else top tier manufacturer is incapable of making a dud. it's just unlikely to the point of being implausible. Kind of like getting hit with a meteor. I only know of 1 proper dud Seasonic has released and it wasn't even under their own brand name. More than 10 years ago also.
Except that the top of the range of EVGA is composed of the best of Super Flower.
@@calypsojordana3274 Except they are not given how nebulous the term "top of the range" really is. Some are made by Seasonic and some are made by FSP. Most people don't buy top of the line anyway so whever makes the one titanium unit at the top of the stack is irrelevant.
I was wrong about Seasonic, their dirt low end is actually rebrands not made by them. So turns out this doesn't even apply there. S12III is made by Shenzhen Ruishengyuan Technology and does not have Japanese capacitors but rather Teapo. They are still 105C caps and Teapo is good but it's much less of a luxury product than you'd expect from Seasonic. It's only equivalent to the best budget offerings from other brands.
Didn't really think I would ever watch a 29 minute video of a power supply working, but here we are.
Gigabyte's definition of extended use = less than five minutes. Thanks for letting us know :D
I've been running a $30 B-Stock Supernova G2 for a few years, I managed to trip OCP a few times on it trying to benchmark a PowerColor Red Devil 13 290x2, still works fine 😅
Steve and the gamers nexus crew, you mean the world to the pc community! Thanks for all you guys do!
My Corsair AX860 860w PSU that I got with my i7 4790k Rig in 2014 is a SeaSonic unit in disguise based on what reviewers have said and it is still going strong after close to 7 years of off and on service. It is now powering its 2nd PC. POPP permanent overpower protection I like that statement because it fits the Gigabyte units that you guys tested perfectly because like mentioned by another viewer those power supplies did go POPP.
Really cool to hear you guys were mentored directly by JonnyGuru - I still sometimes instinctively direct people there when they're shopping for power supplies, forgetting it's been defunct for years. Someone's gotta carry the torch!
I'm actually enjoying this series because Stone is so chill as he runs these tests. These are way more entertaining than any electronic testing videos have any right to be.
I see nothing wrong with the Gigabyte's approach, their application of POPp Permanent Over Power protection, which includes audible and visual indicators, seems to be an effective approach. The ability of the Gigabyte PSU to alert external agencies (fire fighters) when it activates when unattended could be a positive benefit? Perhaps other manufacturers might have already looked into POPping their PSU but found that the negative feedback to the Gigabyte approach was too large an overhead.
The Gigabyte circus has been one of the more entertaining things to happen this year.
I've used at least 10 of the EVGA 750 GA Supernova 80+ Gold in builds I've done for customers and no issues at all. EVGA is easily one of the best power supplies on the market.
@Ethereal Audio I would go with the EVGA all day, myself. Not saying there's anything wrong with Cooler Master, just personally prefer EVGA since I've never had an issue with their product.
Keep up the great work. I will absolutely watch all of these videos even if nothing exciting happens because this shit needs to be done.
Coincidently, I do have a Seasonic 650W Platinum. Have had it for 5 years with no issues whatsoever and it's amazingly silent.
I don't know if corsair PSU's are good these days anymore, but back in the day, I purchased a 750w unit. Not the builder series, which was apparently crap, but the non-modular rm series. I've had it for about 10 years now and it is still powering my system today. The PSU has seen about 7-8 different mobos in that time with various graphics cards and suchs.
Stone needs to be in videos more often if he's comfortable with it. His dry humor and sarcasm are amazing.
Great video you guys! I'm personally running a Corsair RM750x psu in my system and had it for about 4 months now and it is great, no issues so far. I've heard of companies like Seasonic, EVGA, and Be Quiet who supposedly make great psu's. I cannot vouche on behalf of those companies but as for Corsair psu's, so far so good. Keep up these great and informative videos @GN
Can I just say, your cameraman does really good work with focusing on and showing things while you're explaining them.
Lol love the end and this is why this is my favorite review outlet the honesty from all of you at GN. Thanks for showing us both sides of the PSU testing.
I clicked this video faster than a Gigabyte PSU exploding.
As Steve said, the tester is basically a space heater. It's so hot in their office that they only wear clothes during filming. The lengths GN is willing to go is just amazing.
Stone's on-screen presence has improved so quickly since his first appearance on that Patreon BTS video! Doesn't seem far away from hosting a video solo!
i couldv’e swore he did already like years ago
Just bought this PSU last week. After seeing this, I'm satisfied. Cheers!
had a cable come loose on my first seasonic ever.... but they replaced it no problem and ended up working well. Great point about context and individual products