Ask Prof Wolff: How Capitalism Distorts The Immigration Issue
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A Patron of Democracy at Work asks: "What do you think about the left's view of immigration and why do you think that seems to be the consensus view? Why are most on the left so in support of immigration when it’s clear the working class seem to be rejecting it?"
This is Professor Richard Wolff's video response.
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As a Mexican woman immigrant, I thank you for tackling this issue & especially for speaking the truth about it. Your wisdom & knowledge are needed.
Thank you for this, prof. Wolff. I'm a very homesick immigrant myself and this video honestly almost got me tearing up. I don't want to be a foreigner speaking a foreign language for the rest of my life, but my country is being colonized and destroyed, and I don't know if I can go back. Either way, I'll spend the rest of my youth here so that I maybe get the chance to live a half-dignified life back home later.
Thank you for the nuanced answer and the empathy that you insist on here. It's rare to see either of those things when this topic comes up, much less both.
Creating desperation is what we do ,all over the globe ,every chance we get...
They drive down wages and because of that nothing else matters. As a mechanic you have no chance of getting t that job if someone from Cuba is applying unless you work for next to nothing
Immigration is about keeping wages low for businesses and keeping taxes low for the wealthy.
Can't believe I've only come across this clip now. Brilliantly articulated Professor Wolf. I've subscribed.
❤Thank you very much for this lesson Professor Wolff.
Thank you, did anyone tell you that you have a beautiful voice. English is my second language and I really like how you speak. Every time when I hear you I'm thinking of ebooks. Please don't take this wrong way I do realize that you're much more than beautiful voice.
I thank you, Professor, you spoke out painful truth in my mind.
Thanks for this
A large population in poverty tends to vote a certain way. Keeping people in poverty is part of the plan.
Ask a Native American what they think about immigrants 😄
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Brilliant! Perfectly summed up
Sadly the USA working class leadership doesn't take a clear stand in support of the coming new workers by getting involved in the explanations needed by those new workers to defend and protect the salary of both sides in a coordinated effort. The unionized working class of the USA should take a part involving them in the immigration process.
Yes, they should... specifically the "part"/stance the unions took about 30+ years ago, in wanting illegal immigrants to be kept out. We need to protect our own people, and our environment. Instead of letting in these selfish immigrants, who never think about the harm they're causing, and the workers they're displacing.
@@cev12 who are ours?? You seem to be the typical nationalist believing you own a country or you are owned by the owners of power and the means of production. Playing the game of your masters in the cake of the world market. What a shame of intellectual understanding of what really means to be a worker.
So in your opinion the unionized workers of the USA should be part of the border Patrol and ICE right?? What a mediocre position.
@@cev12 And they hate us
Look our problem. For one year I am not allowed to live on my property. I am an inventor and I need to work on my inventions to do prototypes, because none of the companies want to take my products. I housed homeless people on my property, and Island County in Washington State put me in jail for 4 Months, forced me homeless, cut all my income and put me in danger of losing my house in foreclosure. They took away my right to use my toilet and to work on my inventions on my property. The Court order said, Judge Cliff, wrote: ”David may live in his car on his property” “David shall not enter any building on his property” “David shall not use his bathroom” “David’s electric power is disconnected” Court of Appeal Div.1 from Seattle, Commissioner Masako Kanazawa denied my requests to prevent my arrest and homelessness. In his decision he wrote “David Muresan is safer as homeless or jail than to live on his property”. During my arrest, a police officer offered me some money if I accept to go homeless and not to go to jail.
How nice it would be if our government would uphold immigration laws and have people migrate here in a orderly manner.
The immigration issue is about ONE thing:dividing the working class
How about a policy of top down immigration? All new immigrants are distributed among the wealthiest zip codes, starting with those in Congress.
HAPPY SATURDAY BIRTHDAY, PROF. WOLFF! 🎉GÓZALO!
Great video Professor. I know I'm not a patron but I wanted to ask you one thing, how do we approach the Labor Aristocracy? Like there certain parts of working class people at the moment benefit enough status quo to keep it going. Like bankers, accountants, programmers, various analysts, and all these type of people. Because in my experience most people like my friends don't like doing the highly technical work of accounts and all many just want a simple job like a waiter or barista but they have to be a banker to make a living wage but people who specialize in certain things like programming or book keeping always think of themselves as a bit above everyone, how do we approach those people who are so entrenched in the system and pull them towards our cause? Thank you for hearing me
If I would have been a very rich man, like those very few billionaires in the world, I would donate one billion euros to "democracy at work foundation", which I am convinced very well, serves the general interest of all the human world society...many thanks to its president professor Richard wolff for his welcome efforts to clarify very difficult aspects of problems and crisis of capitalism order, like the issue of immigration worldwide
We are the working class . The borders are for the divided; . Us . We are divided artificially by the wealthy class. But we are the same regardless of our particular culture , language or roots. We live in an international system. That is the greatest achievement of capitalism as we know the world market of today. Is already an obsolete failed system but we are one class as workers and should be united and see each other as fellow combatants against the abuse of the wealthy. That is the perception we have here . I took the liberty of assuming we here in this platform share that idea. Workers of the world unite!! Greetings from a Mexican friend.
Yes Mr. Richard wolff.
I totally agree with you!
Yes, an economy serving the majority of the people would not make profit for the benefit of the capitalist minority. Therefore I will make an historical call for the international community : people of the world United you to establish a new and just international order based on an viable alternative to capitalism economy .
Berrada Mohammed Ali. Marrakech
Workers need to realise that the wage system is unfair in that under it, the producer of wealth is separated from owning and controlling the wealth that labour produces and instead is pitted against other workers in the labour market, competing to sell his or her skills to a buyer. Capitalists are buyers in the labour market and workers are sellers. /the law of supply and demand regulates their price aka wage.
Your really not addressing the real issue. They are a tool, as we all are. However we aren't short of people,. To rent apts, to buy cars, to create more of a demand for gas food and clothing. Who are they competing with ? the working class. No thanks roads are full already.
politician on the left profits from immigration too, not just capitalism. As immigrations vote for politician who wants / support more immigrations
Not nescarcily because alot of thess ppl are conservative
It is a difficult and a long road that of Socialism and I wish that you are happy and healthy soon liberation will come you must be ready to lead be strong always with you!.
They're docile easier to control
Thank you professor Wolff for bringing more attention to this issue, I feel we only hear the negative and never any positives eventhough there are many. As an immigrant that has been here since I was 4 years old I find it very difficult to not show emotion when I hear citizens here speak Ill of my kin when I’m near since I can blend in easily, it is very upsetting to be used as a tool not just for some to become ridiculously wealthy off of our backs but to also be used as a political tool to be the scapegoat for many of the current problems we have no power over and or used as an example to put capitalism on a pedestal by mentioning past immigrants who became wealthy which let me be clear wouldn’t be a fair comparison since those wealthy people more often than not did have a work permit and became citizens or at least residents fairly quickly whereas the real immigrants remain so for many years if not til the end of their days. I’ve never met most of my extended family from my parents native country and have seen how my own parents had to endure so much abuse by employers and the situation having to see their parents die after decades of not seeing them and not be able to attend their funeral; we really are torn -not just from our native country but from the inside as well, there’s a lot of pain and no one seems to care. No one leaves their home to never again see their loved ones ,friends and family just for the hell of it or to break some laws for fun, we’re forced to by circumstances beyond our control.
And you never once gave a thought to the American workers (and college students, etc.) your family displaced and sent into struggle and desperation. Seriously, eff off. So selfish of your parents.
@@cev12 you know it always amazes me how many citizens here are completely ignorant of the government they pledge allegiance to in school every morning causes so much turmoil and instability around the world that in turn cause masses to immigrate. Get your head out of your ass and “eff off” bud
I have always said that I doubt that those who don’t want to pay taxes or allow big business to be regulated to protect the environment and our lives, would be willing to do stoop labor in the hot sun - dressed from top to bottom - to protect their skin - while being seriously exposed to herbicides and pesticides - for the lowest possible wages the owners can get away with.
Capitalism (UNREGULATED)=EXPLOITATION (UNREGULATED)
Thanks for the discussion but you didn’t really answer the question: should we be in favor of open borders or building a wall along the Mexican border? What’s your position and why?
As Communist, are you not concerned with the “poverty” of the original society of AN IMMIGRANT TO USA??? Are they not Human Beings??
Amazing how the supposedly workers perspective/democracy minded person argues that the workers perspective is some kind of false illusion.
There's no real answer to this topic.Big business finds to confuse us with their story lines.Politicians full their pockets.We find a way to blame others,through out our history. We nred to change our way of doing things.
"More people more money" they bring more money, more taxes for country more buying in a country that's capitalism. Vs them destroying the interior structure of a country, it's civilization
don't forget the real brain drain other countries feel, and how in the states trade and time-extensive jobs aren't seen in a good eye in the states, not when you can easily become a tiktok or youtube star.
What about prison labor? No complains we make prisoners work like slaves as a form of cheap labor..
And much of their labor is for major corporations.
Prison is not meant to be a vacation or a luxury resort. Prisoners should be made to work to learn discipline, structure and how to work together, something most people learn outside of prison. If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime.
Probably a good idea to avoid prison then...still, prisons have no
more power to compel work than that of the outside world.
wolff gang! 🐺
well said mate!
How many employment positions are being found for each new immigrant allowed to enter? How many places for lodging? How many are being sponsored by each of us before allowing them in and then simply leaving them in the street once they have entered? Where was lodging provided recently in Manhattan where even most of us cannot afford apartments? It is easy to wave a banner for a cause but how many people on the podium actually come up with a plan which involves their own personal sacrifice within it? Many blame government (justifiably), few are willing to fill its shoes.
The way our economy works often means that immigrants move to cities with poor tax bases and the costs of immigration are put on those cities. Benefits go to the federal government and to corporations.
Let's be impartial, let's be objective... Let's hear out what the prof had to say.. 😳
Is the point of human life to have a job? If we could replace all human labor with machines... we shouldn't do that?
Maybe the problem isn't the workplace... or that the size of the workplace is shrinking. Maybe the problem is that no one really knows how to produce and supply the stuff we all need without resorting to competition and the idea of profit?
Not only does capitalism despise competition by forming monopolies, but its desire for infinite growth of profits, on a finite world that as a consequence will be destroyed by capitalism is so contradictory, it is hilarious.
@@timmy-wj2hc I'd assert that this is because capitalism is a founding myth. It pretends to be based on math and science... but then gambling can be based in math and science. That isn't the point.
What is the point?
To figure out what the best stuff a population can produce is and then send the best of the best to the people who control the economy.
When a group of people set up a government they invest themselves with a franchise on violence. We like to pretend that this franchise is given to the state... but in fact it is ALWAYS invested in individuals who come from or are filtered into the most privileged class of people... those who run the government. Those who control the franchise on violence which enable the ones in control to do pretty much whatever they want to do.
LAW in other words... At first "from GOD", and then from "JUSTICE".
It's all a sham, of course a mythology designed specifically to make others dependent upon the few.
So what is an economy?
Well when government started getting bigger, it became much more difficult and then impossible to control these larger populations strictly through violence and mythology.
So after a long time of trying different things someone came up with the idea of getting everyone within the "kingdom" to compete with each other in order to find out which of them provided the best goods or services. So the finest artisans would be employed by the BOSS. See?
That worked for awhile, but eventually even that didn't work as specialization and between BOSS trade allowed massive growth in populations.
Enter currency and the ideas of profit, and property. Now, those who control the government/economy, can trade in symbols to gain the best of the best... including human talent. A rich person can hire the smartest, strongest, toughest, most authoritarian people and control them through the economy and their desire to be rich themselves.
So, this has been going on for about 12,000 or so years. Evolving, growing in size and complexity.
We tend to call it civilization.
All the "isms" attached to it, come from within it as a means to justify it.
So feudalism, slavery, capitalism, communism, socialism... democracy, fascism they all share the same basic authoritarian structure. The ones that manage to keep the public happy can last up to about 750 years before the greed filter pushes the most ruthlessly greedy to the top where they scavenge the wealth gathered by generations.
And then the whole shooting match falls apart and we start over with some other group of jokers who think they can figure out the perfect way to justify themselves and their class taking what everyone works for.
All life has a singular purpose which is the point of their existence.
Only humans seem to be confused by it.
@@jgalt308 If it is your singular purpose to have a job, then go ahead.
I think the point here is that no one person gets to decide what everyone else's purpose should be.
Or if they even have one.
@@jgalt308 What is it that you think the singular purpose of your life is?
Homeless Americans need jobs. Homeless people suffer from the American economic decline.
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Capilaism could not care less but it probably could. lol
Immigrant coming to US will join the homeless in the street.
You will be surprised that some of the immigrants coming to US have university degree and their English is better than some people who were born in US. I am not even mentioning people coming with work visa provided by IT global companies (imagine how smart they are because they could get a job in foreign country).
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I think the question is we bash USA over and over on this channel, but can you do a video on the life of an average citizen in Russia and China?
This is not the place to judge the conditions of the working class on other nations. That is the place for the worker's leadership and intellectuality of those nations to give us a proper assessment on their situation. It is common to assume that those " foreign" workers are always in a worst condition than those of the USA as if they didn't have any advances toward the socialist goals. Prejudice based on corporate class lies permeate most statements. We must be vigilant about the ideological warfare staining the perception of others. And if course is our place to judge about our own dealings with the wealthy class.
@@georgefurman4371 The struggle of workers is international. Just as corporations are now multinational and operate beyond the outdated nation-state idea, so does labor have to do so. Otherwise, it's just empty theorizing with no practical effect for the workers we claim to be on the side of. We need to fight fire with fire, so to speak
@@veronicaprass654 agree. I understand what you say and say it as well in every opportunity. My opinion is based on the prejudice towards the so called " socialist nations" that usually are inaccurate and support warmongering. Plus the idea of bashing the USA is incorrect. Is not the USA that is criticized but the wealthy class in charge of this nation. There is a difference.
@@georgefurman4371 I see. You do make a fair point and bring up valid perspectives to take into consideration (and for a more articulated understanding of the struggle at hand).
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Well , well . I wonder about the time that this nation ( USA ) was founded or created , so far was done by immigrants but the cost or price for that hmmm kind of high ( indigenes lives ) . Anyway the professor hit the nail with his explanation . Thank You very much . 👍🏻✌🏻👋🏻👏🙏😁❤️.
Nations are farms... farms have to control their borders.
Hmmmm... can you please making it a milder comment...??? Hmmmm...
Please...hmmmm...
@@peaceleader7315 Would you like to write everyone's responses?
@@blogintonblakley2708 no ... hmmmm..
Because my sovereign peace is my behold dear to mine alone... hmmmm..
@@peaceleader7315 Well then, I think I'll just keep writing things the way that I want to write them. But thank you for your input. Sorry you are not going to get the result you wanted.
Dr. Wolff is worth millions not bad for a Socialist! Its capitalism for him and his family socialism for us!
Wolff should wrap his head around social beneficial capitalism built on blockchain tech and managed by AI
...? really ? you expect the economic paradigm to change fundamentally just by changing the means of top down control , and the specific means of exchanging money ? how ?
Capitalism is incompatible with socialism.
Capitalism is concerned with endless growth of profits regardless of the harm to the planet and people, where only 1% of the population benefits, not the 99% of the human species.
Saying social capitalism is a contradiction.
good one, tell us some more jokes
Richard Woff is what you call a Paid Do Nothing Opposition for the 1% Oligarchy Corporate Dictatorship.
How you for Immigrantion and also for Higher Wages Overall for the American Citizens? That makes no logical commonsense and is a Total Contradiction.
Immigrantion which truly is a Cheap Work Force into America is no different than outsourcing jobs to another country Cheap Work Force.
So when it comes to Building Products/Manufacturing Jobs or Telecommunications Jobs you outsource those jobs to a Cheap Work Force and when it comes to Service Jobs, Driving Jobs and Tech Jobs you bring in a Cheap Work Force into America to bring down the wages of those Jobs. All on the American Citizens Dime.
So there's nothing wrong with Capitalism as long as the Poor and Middle Class get their peice of the pie. We just seen this when people refuse to take these low paying jobs during the Pandemic and they had to rise wages because no one would work for cheap. So their 1% Masters demand their Puppets get people who would work for cheap on our tax dollars.
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