My small Mitsubishi ASX had just enough space to install the big Provent 200. I made a simple bracket myself and it hasn’t moved a mm in 3 years. I get 40,000 km easy, and I service the filter every 10k (and twice in Vic winter due to condensation) by using paper towels to soak excess oil and clean off any sludge. The paper towel trick was recommended by my Benz dealer in Germany. These are great.
I just changed my Flashlube Pro element after 40,000 ks of mostly touring work over 4 years. The old element looked perfect, like brand new but changed it out anyway. I have collected all the oil drained during the 40,000 ks. It would be approximately 600 to 700 ml. of oil. Very glad I have had it fitted since Dmax was new.
While fitting a provent kit on my 200 I noticed that the inlet and outlet ports are shown incorrectly on Mann & Hummel's diagrams and provent installation guides. The Ryco diagrams show correct orientation (Ryco element interchangable with the Mann). The gases into a coalescing filter should be from the outside of the element with the filter inlet lower than the outlet and with the relief also correctly at the inlet to enabling venting in the case of a blocked filter or full catch can preventing over-pressurisation of the crankcase and subsequent front/rear crankshaft seal failure.
The wee small ones with the dip stick that screws in and out i bought off ebay..soon as i got it i tested it to see if it hold vacuum and found out it didn't. Filled sink with water an blew into one on the holes while other was blocked off and seen where it was leaking. Bubbles appeared from where the dipstick was screwed in. Was able to put an O ring on it and holds vacuum and no leaks. So best to check theres no leaks before fitting.
Good day Andrew. Why not just connect the drain line back to the sump? It is only the gas that needs to be "burned" in the combustion cycle. Why not let the separated oil drain back in to the sump?
I have a 2018 dpd model isuzu mux. Will fitting one of these void mt factory warranty??? As ive heard it will. All so what is the benefit? Will it keep the egr clean or at least cleaner? Thanks
About 8000 km ago fitted a provent 200 to my 2022 dmax. I’m getting about 30ml per 1000k out of the drain and also noticing oil weeping around valve cover seal and around pcv outlet. Is this common? Confirmed correct installation.
Hey mate just wondering what one I should go for installing on my 2022 Hilux, drawn to the Flaslube pro or provent... you sound like the bloke to ask, cheers.
Sooo. How do you get lubrication into the inlet side? Direct injection means no lubrication over the bottom of the valves that fuel and/oil vapor would normally supply. Therefore in the case of EGR valves a catch can would prevent this lubrication and you would only get dirty soot running over the valves which I imagine is fairly abrasive? Is the catch can REALLY a good idea?
@@BerrimaDiesel it Comes from exhaust through the EGR system. This mixes with that oil vapor creating the sticky black sludge. to stop it you have to delete the EGR soot. If you delete the oil you will only get the Soot...which is abrasive. if you delete the egr and retain the oil you will keep it clean.
Wrong Tim. Where does the soot come from in the first place? Yep from the combustion process in the first place. Theres no marshmallows coming from any engine. Nah. Safe, Legal Correct way. No Oil... Nothing including the soot can stick with the oil gone.
What's the difference between the paper filter and the metal mesh filter ? It would seem to me that a paper filter would be a continuous running cost as opposed to washing the metal one. I hope you can respond. Thanks
Should i do anything about the crank case ventilations systems on my 1989 td42 venting into the intake manifold theres a slight amount of oil coating at the entrance of the manifold and same on my 1992 2.8 hilux the crank case breathing into the intake both are completely stock and non turbo i just think it could be vented away from the intake to stop the oil residue in the intakes
Yes they void warranty! Nissan black marked my 3 month old np300 for all engine warranty work after seeing mine fitted with provent 200, there arseholes!!
Hi guys, great vid. But no one I have approached has bothered to answer a tech question about the provent. My V6 Amarok and like all other diesel 4by's have an "unrestricted" air flow from the rocker cover to the turbo inlet. Placing a provent in the line means the oily air is now trying to go through a filter, once this filter gets wet with oil how does the "filtered" air pass back into the engine without creating pressure in the rocker cover ? Yes I know provent has a pressure relief valve but bare in mind the oem design has no restriction and my concerns are the built up pressure will force oil leak problems. Thoughts?
Simply- The breathing fumes from your engine go ONE WAY...and thats towards the engine. A proper catch can separates the oil from the fumes. Any pressure (only from the blow by fumes) due to a blocked catch can filter will open a vent. You would normally change the filter about every 40,000km so you wont have this happen. Its German made so the Germans already think ahead and have redundancy.
@@BerrimaDiesel Oh ok, thats good news, just one more question, would you know if it voids new car warranty as I've heard a Navara owner fitted one of these and Nissan said good by to his warranty. Also what do you think of intake professional carbon clean for new diesels and all their tech and sensors, stay away or ok?
Australia has good consumer rights. No dealer/manufacturer can void warranty. They may threaten (because you didnt buy the accessory from them) but they cant void your warranty. our own New vehciles all under warranty have all our goodies on them.
Hi Andrew i know your busy can you advise me on a catch can and fuel filter for a 2023 v8 78 troopy just about to pick it up after 20months wait cheers Matt ps i do like them side by side but will be advised by you
Why is my provent 200 when idling emitting smoke? from what looks like it’s coming from around and under neath the catch can lid? And no I don’t have it hooked up incorrectly, and my motor only has 130kms on it with oil changed at every 10,000.
Berrima Diesel Yep I always do oil and filter every 5,000km and I like to do my fuel filter every 10,000km. I currently use 20w60 but my partner has just changed over to 15w40 for his H2 and wanted to me also. Clearly I have trust issues and needed a second opinion. He will be happy with your reply 👍🏼😂
I recently got rid of my provent 200 as it was pressurising the engine so went with flash lube and found it heaps better... don’t know if it was a faulty RV on it but yeah it was messy with genuine filters.. and the ones from eBay seemed to be less resistance but also less trapped oil..🤷🏼♂️ so turfed it.. Have you heard of this happening before.. I have an 06 fte
You might want to recheck that. What youve said is youve downsized to the Pro Vent 100 (the FlashLube 100 is made by MAnn Hummel Pro Vent) and that the 'twice as big' PV200 was causing issues. Doesnt really make sense.
@@BerrimaDiesel I know right ,all I can go on is what I’ve seen over the last 3 years there was always a fine mist over the oil lines and motor. I did change filters. They ranged from the cheap $30-40 range up to the $70 from western filters and the last one was from them and I noticed puffs of white smoke on start up which I wasn’t happy about and thought that the turbo seals where being compromised and also a slight loss of power and then lots of oil down the side of the block.. so finally said enough is enough and bought the flash lube And it’s been great.. Now I noticed that you have shown one with a valve in the bottom of the filter.. none of the ones I bought ever had that so is it new..🤷🏼♂️
I have recently fitted the Provent 100 to my Land Rover Td5 that's done over 400,00kms and I notice an average 50degC reduction in exhaust gas temperatures (EGTs). Beware that unlike the 200, on the 100 the vapor inlet is the lower port .....
If you take a close look at the Test Data even Mann Hummel has released as long as the PV100 has a drain hose to cacth the oil its no problems. Actually Flash Lubes whole range of Catch Can systems (rebranded Pro Vent) they use exclusively the PV100 on everything. Cheers
@@BerrimaDiesel thanks for your reply. Just yesterday I was watching a 4wd show on TV and they were under the bonnet of a V8 land cruiser and they had a Provent 100 fitted to it. Cheers.
We had a HPD. Looks great and does catch oil but still allows large amounts of oil through. Our intercooler was lined with oil. Switched to a Provent 200 and the intake pipe on the intercooler is clean as.
@@BerrimaDiesel Yeah not in the States They rarely use them Probably because of the good old EPA Has some kind of excuse for environmental BS I have a 2.8 diesel Colorado which you most likely would be familiar with I know oil burning issues I heard they have redesigned them quite a bit in the past couple years Also I'm sure a lot of the problems have to do with piston rings getting fully seated in the break in period if you do not work it hard before 10000 miles the piston rings seemed to not seal correctly but I have the 10 year warranty I would like to put a catch can, I think it might void the warranty
Good info in the video, but don't suppose you guys could turn the camera 90 degrees for better viewing?
My small Mitsubishi ASX had just enough space to install the big Provent 200. I made a simple bracket myself and it hasn’t moved a mm in 3 years. I get 40,000 km easy, and I service the filter every 10k (and twice in Vic winter due to condensation) by using paper towels to soak excess oil and clean off any sludge. The paper towel trick was recommended by my Benz dealer in Germany. These are great.
Yeah I’m on my 3rd filter now and my car is running perfect. I never had a DPF burn since installed catch can!
I just changed my Flashlube Pro element after 40,000 ks of mostly touring work over 4 years. The old element looked perfect, like brand new but changed it out anyway. I have collected all the oil drained during the 40,000 ks. It would be approximately 600 to 700 ml. of oil. Very glad I have had it fitted since Dmax was new.
Always genuine and proper advice.
Thank you
Been running a provent for a few years now, catches more oil than other cans (especially cheapo eBay specials)
While fitting a provent kit on my 200 I noticed that the inlet and outlet ports are shown incorrectly on Mann & Hummel's diagrams and provent installation guides. The Ryco diagrams show correct orientation (Ryco element interchangable with the Mann). The gases into a coalescing filter should be from the outside of the element with the filter inlet lower than the outlet and with the relief also correctly at the inlet to enabling venting in the case of a blocked filter or full catch can preventing over-pressurisation of the crankcase and subsequent front/rear crankshaft seal failure.
I always knew Mann Hummels design Engineer was wrong......... 😥
The wee small ones with the dip stick that screws in and out i bought off ebay..soon as i got it i tested it to see if it hold vacuum and found out it didn't. Filled sink with water an blew into one on the holes while other was blocked off and seen where it was leaking. Bubbles appeared from where the dipstick was screwed in. Was able to put an O ring on it and holds vacuum and no leaks. So best to check theres no leaks before fitting.
is there a way to measure a crankcase pressure just to compare before and after installing the occ?
4:00 bloody great coincidence with that real truck!
Good day Andrew.
Why not just connect the drain line back to the sump?
It is only the gas that needs to be "burned" in the combustion cycle.
Why not let the separated oil drain back in to the sump?
Oil, water....Yikes no thanks!
I have a 2018 dpd model isuzu mux. Will fitting one of these void mt factory warranty??? As ive heard it will. All so what is the benefit? Will it keep the egr clean or at least cleaner? Thanks
Nope wont void anything
Yep is designed to Help and keep things clean
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About 8000 km ago fitted a provent 200 to my 2022 dmax. I’m getting about 30ml per 1000k out of the drain and also noticing oil weeping around valve cover seal and around pcv outlet. Is this common? Confirmed correct installation.
With a genuine German mann hummel Catch can system I've never seen that
I wonder if the factory is filling engines with a light oil as a running in oil, motorbike manufacturers used to do that.
Hey mate just wondering what one I should go for installing on my 2022 Hilux, drawn to the Flaslube pro or provent... you sound like the bloke to ask, cheers.
Just service it regularly is more the concern than anything as they are usually instralled then forgotten
Sooo. How do you get lubrication into the inlet side? Direct injection means no lubrication over the bottom of the valves that fuel and/oil vapor would normally supply. Therefore in the case of EGR valves a catch can would prevent this lubrication and you would only get dirty soot running over the valves which I imagine is fairly abrasive? Is the catch can REALLY a good idea?
where do you think the carbon soot came from in the first place? :-)
@@BerrimaDiesel it Comes from exhaust through the EGR system. This mixes with that oil vapor creating the sticky black sludge. to stop it you have to delete the EGR soot. If you delete the oil you will only get the Soot...which is abrasive. if you delete the egr and retain the oil you will keep it clean.
Wrong Tim. Where does the soot come from in the first place? Yep from the combustion process in the first place. Theres no marshmallows coming from any engine.
Nah. Safe, Legal Correct way. No Oil... Nothing including the soot can stick with the oil gone.
I have fitted the provent 200 series to my zd30 and I have noticed oilly substance on top of the filter and oil in the top hose, is this bad ?
Sounds like shes working OK
What's the difference between the paper filter and the metal mesh filter ? It would seem to me that a paper filter would be a continuous running cost as opposed to washing the metal one.
I hope you can respond. Thanks
Paper Stops things.
Mesh makes you think its stopping things
:-)
I had a Provent 200 fitted to my NX Pajero, but it was just too loud in the cabin with a constant buzzing under mild load, would the 100 be quieter?
Fitted properly there is no noise
@@BerrimaDiesel The pressure valve under certain rpm's produced the noise, dodgy valve spring?
Ive tightened a few springs before.
Is it worth putting a catch can on Mitsubishi Outlander diesel or asx diesel no videos showing these car only hardcore 4x4 n 4x4 utes
If there is room...fit one!
Should i do anything about the crank case ventilations systems on my 1989 td42 venting into the intake manifold theres a slight amount of oil coating at the entrance of the manifold and same on my 1992 2.8 hilux the crank case breathing into the intake both are completely stock and non turbo i just think it could be vented away from the intake to stop the oil residue in the intakes
I have a 2018 np300 should I get a catch can and do they void the warranty?
Yes they void warranty! Nissan black marked my 3 month old np300 for all engine warranty work after seeing mine fitted with provent 200, there arseholes!!
Hi guys, great vid. But no one I have approached has bothered to answer a tech question about the provent. My V6 Amarok and like all other diesel 4by's have an "unrestricted" air flow from the rocker cover to the turbo inlet. Placing a provent in the line means the oily air is now trying to go through a filter, once this filter gets wet with oil how does the "filtered" air pass back into the engine without creating pressure in the rocker cover ? Yes I know provent has a pressure relief valve but bare in mind the oem design has no restriction and my concerns are the built up pressure will force oil leak problems. Thoughts?
Simply- The breathing fumes from your engine go ONE WAY...and thats towards the engine. A proper catch can separates the oil from the fumes. Any pressure (only from the blow by fumes) due to a blocked catch can filter will open a vent. You would normally change the filter about every 40,000km so you wont have this happen. Its German made so the Germans already think ahead and have redundancy.
@@BerrimaDiesel Oh ok, thats good news, just one more question, would you know if it voids new car warranty as I've heard a Navara owner fitted one of these and Nissan said good by to his warranty. Also what do you think of intake professional carbon clean for new diesels and all their tech and sensors, stay away or ok?
Australia has good consumer rights. No dealer/manufacturer can void warranty. They may threaten (because you didnt buy the accessory from them) but they cant void your warranty. our own New vehciles all under warranty have all our goodies on them.
Hi Andrew i know your busy can you advise me on a catch can and fuel filter for a 2023 v8 78 troopy just about to pick it up after 20months wait cheers Matt ps i do like them side by side but will be advised by you
Yes mate our Dual kits theyre side by side
Can u wash the elements ?? Say every 10k and fully change it as per advise if 40k ??
no need to wash them as they are constantly draining off....replace every 40,000 to 50,000 kilometres
What do you recommend for my new 2021 LC76 workmate? Regards and thanks
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The ryco catch can is similar but connected up the other way around, why is this?
Thanks
Probably why we see them leaking a lot.
Why is my provent 200 when idling emitting smoke? from what looks like it’s coming from around and under neath the catch can lid? And no I don’t have it hooked up incorrectly, and my motor only has 130kms on it with oil changed at every 10,000.
Either the Lid isnt on/sealing properly/cross-threaded.
OR
The the relief valve in the lid is opening due to over-pressure (filter oil level too high)
Thanks guys will check your suggestions. 👍
Andrew do you have a video on choosing a right engine oil? What’s the best for a LN106 2.8 3L?
Berrima Diesel
Yep I always do oil and filter every 5,000km and I like to do my fuel filter every 10,000km. I currently use 20w60 but my partner has just changed over to 15w40 for his H2 and wanted to me also. Clearly I have trust issues and needed a second opinion. He will be happy with your reply 👍🏼😂
I recently got rid of my provent 200 as it was pressurising the engine so went with flash lube and found it heaps better... don’t know if it was a faulty RV on it but yeah it was messy with genuine filters.. and the ones from eBay seemed to be less resistance but also less trapped oil..🤷🏼♂️ so turfed it..
Have you heard of this happening before..
I have an 06 fte
You might want to recheck that. What youve said is youve downsized to the Pro Vent 100 (the FlashLube 100 is made by MAnn Hummel Pro Vent) and that the 'twice as big' PV200 was causing issues.
Doesnt really make sense.
@@BerrimaDiesel I know right ,all I can go on is what I’ve seen over the last 3 years there was always a fine mist over the oil lines and motor. I did change filters. They ranged from the cheap $30-40 range up to the $70 from western filters and the last one was from them and I noticed puffs of white smoke on start up which I wasn’t happy about and thought that the turbo seals where being compromised and also a slight loss of power and then lots of oil down the side of the block.. so finally said enough is enough and bought the flash lube
And it’s been great..
Now I noticed that you have shown one with a valve in the bottom of the filter.. none of the ones I bought ever had that so is it new..🤷🏼♂️
Sounds like someone was selling you Dud copy parts......
@@BerrimaDiesel thought western filters was a reputable company 🤷🏼♂️. Well there you go.
Just make sure its in German Mann Hummel packaging.
Hmmm......the Provent 100 should be an ideal fit in my 2016 i30 diesel 👌
I have recently fitted the Provent 100 to my Land Rover Td5 that's done over 400,00kms and I notice an average 50degC reduction in exhaust gas temperatures (EGTs). Beware that unlike the 200, on the 100 the vapor inlet is the lower port .....
i got a 1kd i bought a provent 200 ifits installed right is there any cons of inatslling a catch can?
Just follow the instructions
G'day Andrew love your work.Mate just wondering if I need a Cath can on a 1993 strait 6 non turbo qg patrol?Thanks must appreciated Arthur
Hi mate no need really on the old ones.
@@BerrimaDiesel Thankyou Andrew must appreciated for your time
Hi mate
I'm struggling with fitting it to peugeot 807 2.0 hdi 2009
Can you help please
They are identical, next words, they are slightly different
Thanks for the info,
Does catch can works normally in LC100 V8 petrol engine? I’m looking forward for the feed back.
Hi. I guess you could install one on a Petrol.
Hey just wanted to know if I need to run a catch can on my 1999 Toyota hzj79 with a turbo 1hz?
Hi. No Need
@@BerrimaDiesel Why not? The intake on 1HZ gets just as dirty from oil as other engines.
No need on the old ones simple. No complex induction systems. No air control flow butterflys. Simple and easy.
They need a reservoir on the drain tube unless you want to empty it every other week.
The resovior is the long drain tube in our kits.
🍻 5:34
???? WHY CATCH CANS
THESE NOT FITTED AS STANDARD TO ANY NEW ENGINES OR OLD ONES
if so important ???
Yep theyre factory fitted on lots of Trucks and some smaller Cars SUVs
Thanks Guys
Youre welcome
I was a bit disappointed when you fitted a Provent 100 to my 2012 patrol. Plenty of room under the bonnet.
If you take a close look at the Test Data even Mann Hummel has released as long as the PV100 has a drain hose to cacth the oil its no problems. Actually Flash Lubes whole range of Catch Can systems (rebranded Pro Vent) they use exclusively the PV100 on everything. Cheers
@@BerrimaDiesel thanks for your reply. Just yesterday I was watching a 4wd show on TV and they were under the bonnet of a V8 land cruiser and they had a Provent 100 fitted to it. Cheers.
Thoughts on HPD catch cans ?
We had a HPD. Looks great and does catch oil but still allows large amounts of oil through. Our intercooler was lined with oil. Switched to a Provent 200 and the intake pipe on the intercooler is clean as.
I don't understand why car makers don't fit catch cans at factory level.
Some do
So why doesn't car companies even use these
@@BerrimaDiesel Yeah not in the States They rarely use them Probably because of the good old EPA Has some kind of excuse for environmental BS I have a 2.8 diesel Colorado which you most likely would be familiar with I know oil burning issues I heard they have redesigned them quite a bit in the past couple years Also I'm sure a lot of the problems have to do with piston rings getting fully seated in the break in period if you do not work it hard before 10000 miles the piston rings seemed to not seal correctly but I have the 10 year warranty I would like to put a catch can, I think it might void the warranty
The Provent 200 works great. The cheap Chinese copy is useless.