Will started a small tool manufacturing company in 1844 in the small Thuringian city of Schmalkalden. That small city was actually a cradle for German tool industry. In 1918 this became "Bruno Will, Rifle and Tool manufacturing". Short time after the end of WW2 the son of Bruno, Harry Will, successfully fled to the West with some machines and toolings and started new in an old horse barn of a former hauler in Hesse. In 1955 they started the construction of a new manufacturing plant. In the 1950s Harry Paul Will, aka Plier king, emigrated to Toronto in Canada and managed the sales of his pliers to the American market from there. The plant was managed by his partner. Harry Paul Will died in 1962. In the 1970s and 80s they expanded massively. But in 2006 they had massive struggles and became bankrupt. That's when Knipex purchased them. Knipex had also purchased the tool manufacturer Orbis in 2003. In 2008 the Orbis-Will company was founded, and that's what their tools are labeled today. They have a 164 page catalog full of all types of pliers, they only make pliers for all thinkable purposes.
I fully agree. I don't want new signs with rust look painted on, I wouldn't mind an original one that has some issues though. Maybe because those are a little bit more my price range.
I am glad to know you are alright and everything is fine. The pliers look fantastic and the bluing really makes them stand out. I agree with you on the sign, I prefer one that looks new and not rusted up. Thanks for sharing this.
Nice pair of needlenose and great cleanup--i'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a pair at the next flea market. The tips on straightening them out were bonus, thank you!
The pliers look terrific. I would not want to purchase a fake vintage sign. I am not a fan of fake weathering. So sign of the eclipse for me in eastern PA. Lots of clouds and may start to rain. Dave.
I'm glad you didn't have any damage. An agency from the government ( I can't remember which one) said that individuals should be prepared for emergencies because the government is not ready. That's scary. The plyers came out nice. I have a lot of signs up in the shop. Some of them are "new" but made to look old which works well for the store front I made to look as well. So they fit my design.
I guess the weathering thing is just the current fashion trend, people do all kinds of weird stuff because it's trendy. Like I remember as a kid people would plasterboard over nice Victorian and Edwardian fireplaces and glue sheets of hardboard over nice solid wood panel doors because the minimalist look was on trend lol.
Hey John, needle nose pliers I use for getting the bung back from the salt and pepper pots when they get stuck inside 🤣 and holding small nails ! I’m a patina boy and proud 😉🤣.. I don’t know why though 🤔 It might be from when I used to draw maps as a kid and dip them in coffee.. who knows ! although I still love the perfect stuff.. , great episode 🙌, cheers Rob
You did a nice restoration on the needle nose pliers. I just got a pair that is a 90 degree. All the different styles have a use. My snap on pliers are ground for picking staples out of upholstered furniture and auto seats. The fiber wheel you introduced me to does a very nice job for the tips. I’m with you on the signs. If I’m buying an original , some deterioration is ok. If I’m buying a reproduction I want it pristine.. great show , thank you.
ScoutCrafter, It's time for another sea story. I have heard of hydrogen embrittlement, I want to say it was associated with boiler feed water. But, I can't say for certain. In the early 1980s, we had 2 - 188,500 DWT tankers. They were built with double bottoms. The double bottoms were coated with 2 coats of epoxy paint. The cargo tanks were left uncoated. The reasoning was the tanks were filled with inert gas and crude oil. It was believed that corrosion would be minimal since there the inert gas had an oxygen content of around 5%. It was believed the crude oil on bare steel would act as a rust inhibitor. After receiving reports of severe pitting we went to look at the pits. On the bottom of the tank you could find pits about 1/2" to 3/4" in diameter and a 1/4" deep. The pits had water in them as a result of tank cleaning and condensation from the high humidity. If you rub your finger in a pit and force the water out of the pit the steel will polish to a shine. There was also an increased number of pits near welds Ultimately it was found that a combination of sulfur in the crude oil and inert gas along with the water produced sulfuric acid, which included turn created the pitting. The increase in pits near welds was due to water collecting because of the raised bead of the weld, and the heat-affected zone near the weld. The problem was solved by coating the steel with epoxy paint and increasing the number of anodes. Bob
Let us know how your eclipse experience went. Don’t keep us in the dark. That long nose pliers came out great, lots of great tips. The bluing looked nice on the handles.
I saw a partial eclipse this morning in Los Angeles. While working outside a woman passersby asked me I had seen the eclipse I chuckled and said no. She waved the glasses at me and said check it out. There are still good people out there. That kind gesture made my day. BTW what you got goin on there is only going to get worse. How blue we are.
Perfect Eclipse viewing around here, sitting in an Adirondack with my Welding Helmet on. Blocks out everything but the Eclipse by using the Helmet and the Adirondack gives a great angle while watching.
Glad you weren't badly affected by the Earthquake John, they're sent just to remind us where we truly fit in the natural order of things ! Those pliers are a very elegant design and your restoration was spot on - I love the blued handles and the polished jaws and that method of aligning the jaws using the vice and wrench I will definitely be using - the fact that you "nudge" it rather than muscle down on it, much like you advise with bound threads and thread cutting is an important mental note for me ! I have one of those antiqued "Dependable Champion" repro tin signs - personally I feel there's a place for both depending on the setting and use, but I think this design was only available distressed so I had little choice in the matter ! Here's a thought if the whole distressed look is fashionable then day by day as we get more liney and scarred we're all getting more and more stylish - how about that ! 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent teaching video today. Great tips! Was that Sammy’s gas station across the street from the five corners? Where the heck do you get all the crazy pictures that you insert into your mosh?😂😊
The intruder alarm is a pretty bad way to wake up. I jump out of bed ready for the fight, while also crapping my pants, wondering who's in the house. But in my opinion the most effective alarm clock known to man is cramp (I think you guys called it charlie horse or something similar). When I get that in say my calf, I literally levitate out of bed.
Those pliers are great. I held back collecting too much oil and gas memorabilia. Just finished watching the eclipse. Very cool. Yup, the signs have their own patina.
Back when I was in high school our shop class instructor was building a beautiful table to show us how to use tools. I was horrified to see him bang on it with chains and hammers. He said he wanted an antique look.
As usual a great job on the pliers John. Hope you got to enjoy the eclipse, I once experience a total one in Austria and it made a huge impression on me. In regards to the fake rust and weathering of items: it's horrible, I just dislike anything fake. I guess it's a trend made to appeal to the masses that pay extra for brand new clothes with holes in them. The weirdest to me is the concept/genre of "steampunk": agglomerated random bits and bobs, incoherently thrown together into fictitious objects that are supposed to appear like weathered steam era industrial items.
Everyone needs a pair or two of long nose pliers. They have that reach. I bought my first pair for home electrical work. The insulation isn't considered enough for live wires but it will keep back the tingle. Great for reaching into deep outlet boxes. Sme for thing in moters. As to the "old" look. I pass as you know. The funniest to me is people that think they are reenctors. Do you think a soldier wants to be handed old gear? If it was new in those days they wanted it to be new. I think it was the bluejean industry taking up a trend, then people to lazy or cheap to refinnish items so they make excuses. Instead of admitting they don't have the money for $10-$20k paint job they come up with a reason. When I was young you used 3 options, primer, black or white paint as they were the cheapest by the gallon. You flat out said you couldn't or didn't want to spend the money for paint. It was honest up front like job titles.
I've got one set of long nose that look like your 'before' but work nice. You'rs are SHARP! I was taking a nap one afternoon and thought my Sweetie was shaking the bed. Nobody there. My Sweetie was in the back working the p.c. and looked at the dog and it fell over. Good old Carolina tremor. Happy wek, Shaky John and God Bless!
The Will pliers are absolutely elegant. Very nice work ScoutCrafter. I Don't need applied aging. I have a lot of old possessions that show their age. I can't afford the pristine, new looking stuff. All the best.
Those needle nose pliers are super nice,but as the signs go I have a couple of old ones and some nice ones but mostly old hubcaps😅. Great episode and see you next time
4:20 WILL have to hit it with a wire brush first… Never heard of Will here in Germany, but yeah, they’ve been around since 1844, one of a gazillion toolmakers in Germany, all good quality. Still need me a pair of long nose ones.
I'm with you I like m e it looking new . I like watching movies from the 50s and 60s just to watch the background Gas Stations or supermarkets. Maybe it's because we were in the military and had to take old beatup items and make them shine for inspections ?
Great job on the long nose pliers ScoutCrafter. I feel the same way about patina and rust. It’s just like the rat rods. Maybe all together they are interesting, but park a rat rod near a car or truck where someone has worked really hard to have a beautiful finish and they look out of place and junky. Don’t get me wrong, I like rat rods but I like a nice shiny finish too.🔨🔧🔨🔧
Hey Scout, I've got a question. Could you make a video, on how you do the bluing on the handles of a pair of pliers? I'm really interested in seeing how this is done! I mean, come on!? You make them look, like you just bought them off the shelf of a store! It's a store I go to in a dream induced, tool shopping, type of dream. The store, would obviously carry tools from.... well, you know, forever....... lol I'm jk. But I'd love to see how you make the handles look, so uniform during the bluing process, uniform and perfect! Anyhow, thanks for another awesome tool video! Take care, until next time!
Needle nose pliers are one of my favorite hobby tools. They aren't designed for heavy duty work. Your pair turned out beautifully. Looks like it was a good quality tool in the first place. I don't like patina on tools or furniture etc. and I don't like the fake weathering on petroliana signs either. I'm a little baffled at people, especially young women, who buy brand new but pre- torn and worn clothes off the rack. What's wrong with wearing nice crisp new clothes?
I wish I could see the appeal but I've heard too many stories of people shooting at those oil cans because of how much they hate them. my daddy always taught me stay away from those oil cans.
Great job on the needle nose pliers. I’m with you on the weathered/rusted look. Definitely not one of the patina boys. I’d rather the vintage stuff look new.
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Pliers are on point, Mr. John! I'll take an orginal with rust (which is about all I can afford with sign prices these days) only re-pops I have are ine given to me by family... Clipart was on point today as well! 🤠👍
I’m with you! Nothing aggravates me more than when I find a really cool looking reproduction tin sign, and it has that fake patina/rust effect. It makes absolutely no sense. I feel like maybe if they deform the edges of the sign or take out a chunk or two to really imitate “wear” or emboss some of the logos and make it more multi dimensional instead of just a crisp clean cut sign with fake rust surrounding it maybe I could get on board 😂 end rant
I saw the new “old” signs yesterday at elephants trunk flea market. It’s just silly. Great pliers. Love the patina boys!! In between Scoutcrafter episodes I’ve been watching old BBC antiques road trip series. They talk about “patinazation”.
It took me a couple years to stop grabbing those long thin super sharp lengths of swarf that come from cutting metal on a lathe. Especially when i moved onto the horizontal borer really cutting long swarf. Anyway a good set of needle nose pliers was in my hand every time i had a good cut going. Stopped it wrapping around me or cutting my hands.
they're still in business, i have pair of angled pliers from them, it's orbis will, not sure if they're separate entity, i think orbis bought will and then knipex bought orbis
I don't get it either! It's kinda like those people who do 20 layers of clear coat over rust on a car and call it a survivor! Anyway, there are all k8nds of tastes!
Another great video. I have quite a few will tools from the 1980s. They must have been after the North American market ( I live in Canada). Those pliers came out very nice. That is how I open my glue bottles. I don't have earthquake insurance, so I may have to reconsider.
John, thanks for the info. You may have saved me from destroying some spring calipers! I wondered about the ad visibility of disassembling the tool, as Alex describes. Have you ever done it? I would be concerned about reassembly, and he doesn't say how. Pliers look great, by the way!
"Hydrogen embrittlement" of steel can be resolved. Heat the steel up to 325 degrees in an oven for a few hours. Might be a bit too much rather than mechanical rust removal.🙂
Nice job on the light bulb and pliers. Did you get that photo of the eclipse through the welding helmet? If so, it came out very good. Thanks for passing it on.
Nothing beats an old ceramic sign (the rust are only signs of time). Personaly, I am a collector and only colect original stuff, no reproductions. I prefer not to have them.
I thought of you when I saw the quake online the Statue of Liberty 🗽 was rocking and rolling New York is going to hell that’s for sure such a shame maybe it will turn around when 47 comes back god bless take care 🇳🇿🇺🇸🗽🦅🪖47/FJB🤬
OK good video again, maybe I am just a goof, but can you explain what meaning of "Dropped Forged" mensa, I have always seen it, and rather than go to Google, I rather like to here from a veteran "person" of some explanations.
Dropped forging is a process where a piece of steel is heated up to just the right temperature and placed in a machine that has two dies one on top and one on the bottom, the hot steel is placed between the dies and the machine drops (with force) the top die onto the bottom die squishing the steel blank into a desired shape. This is a very good way of forming the tool and adds tremendous strength and toughness. It’s an expensive process due to the making of the dies and experience machinery but Dropped forging is really desirable. 😃👍
Interesting history of those pliers and the company, the influence to several Knipex pliers I’ve seen recently show through for sure. Fake rusty signs, and a weathered appearance, sometimes referred to as “the grunge look” do nothing for me. The have to make it look new first, so just leave it alone. Who lays out good money to buy a pair of jeans that look like two Honey Badgers ripped them to pieces, at the same time believing they look stylish? Love the two finishes on the pliers, just a beautiful contrast.
Funny how different people view things. I prefer the signage to look like it did when it was new. Or somebody buys a motorbike, rips off the muffler and then changes to some loud pipes. Then attempt to sell it, saying "Super-Duper GlassPack thingamee deluxe pipes" that really bark. When I say "That is not a selling point, it will cost me to change it back to standard". Then can't understand what you are saying. Or people who buy beaten up jeans or guitars that look like they are ready to fall apart?
"What we got going on here" I laughed outload bigtime! John what brand of bluing do you use? We all had a pair of these pliers in our tackle boxes to remove hooks. its the goofball people on cable who buy and sell rusty stuff who are to blame. They cant find good stuff anymore so they promote old and weathered crap as cool.
I can see how a reproduction would seem “less fake” when it’s in perfect condition - but people like the distressed look, so if it’s a reproduction anyway, why not fake the weathering as well. As for originals, any condition is valuable: if you find new old stock in perfect condition, you take it to a collector and make a killing. If it’s beaten to hell and totally faded, you sell it to someone who wants to bring some character into their home and make a killing as well. Either version is worth far more to the respective buyer than the other. I’m not into it, but if I was, I would solve it differently: can’t afford or can’t find originals, don’t want reproductions? Hang large photographs instead, or take the graphics, have them printed on good paper and frame them.
I like the old worn look .can't help it. I like the new look to.they are like people,it makes for contrast and variety. If they were all the same it would be kinda boreing.
Will started a small tool manufacturing company in 1844 in the small Thuringian city of Schmalkalden. That small city was actually a cradle for German tool industry. In 1918 this became "Bruno Will, Rifle and Tool manufacturing". Short time after the end of WW2 the son of Bruno, Harry Will, successfully fled to the West with some machines and toolings and started new in an old horse barn of a former hauler in Hesse. In 1955 they started the construction of a new manufacturing plant. In the 1950s Harry Paul Will, aka Plier king, emigrated to Toronto in Canada and managed the sales of his pliers to the American market from there. The plant was managed by his partner. Harry Paul Will died in 1962. In the 1970s and 80s they expanded massively. But in 2006 they had massive struggles and became bankrupt. That's when Knipex purchased them. Knipex had also purchased the tool manufacturer Orbis in 2003. In 2008 the Orbis-Will company was founded, and that's what their tools are labeled today.
They have a 164 page catalog full of all types of pliers, they only make pliers for all thinkable purposes.
Always a treat to hear from you Marcel! 😃👍
I saw an earthquake picture that showed a plastic lawn chair on its side and said "New Jersey - We Will Rebuild"! =)
That’s great! (I’m from nj 😂😂😂)
I fully agree. I don't want new signs with rust look painted on, I wouldn't mind an original one that has some issues though. Maybe because those are a little bit more my price range.
Nice pair of needle nose pliers. Thank You for explaining how to straighten them up and tighten them.
The pliers look great!
I am glad to know you are alright and everything is fine. The pliers look fantastic and the bluing really makes them stand out. I agree with you on the sign, I prefer one that looks new and not rusted up. Thanks for sharing this.
Nice pair of needlenose and great cleanup--i'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a pair at the next flea market. The tips on straightening them out were bonus, thank you!
The pliers look terrific.
I would not want to purchase a fake vintage sign. I am not a fan of fake weathering.
So sign of the eclipse for me in eastern PA. Lots of clouds and may start to rain.
Dave.
Great job 👏 Will now Orbis Will is still in business today, part of Knipex.
I'm glad you didn't have any damage. An agency from the government ( I can't remember which one) said that individuals should be prepared for emergencies because the government is not ready. That's scary. The plyers came out nice. I have a lot of signs up in the shop. Some of them are "new" but made to look old which works well for the store front I made to look as well. So they fit my design.
I guess the weathering thing is just the current fashion trend, people do all kinds of weird stuff because it's trendy.
Like I remember as a kid people would plasterboard over nice Victorian and Edwardian fireplaces and glue sheets of hardboard over nice solid wood panel doors because the minimalist look was on trend lol.
Here in the UK they often used asbestos-reinforced cement boards to cover old paneled doors (back in the 40's maybe (not 100% sure when) ) 🤔🙄😊
Hey John, needle nose pliers I use for getting the bung back from the salt and pepper pots when they get stuck inside 🤣 and holding small nails ! I’m a patina boy and proud 😉🤣.. I don’t know why though 🤔 It might be from when I used to draw maps as a kid and dip them in coffee.. who knows ! although I still love the perfect stuff.. , great episode 🙌, cheers Rob
Rob- Natural aging is respected however when people age things on purpose it makes me wonder why. 😂👍
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You did a nice restoration on the needle nose pliers. I just got a pair that is a 90 degree. All the different styles have a use. My snap on pliers are ground for picking staples out of upholstered furniture and auto seats. The fiber wheel you introduced me to does a very nice job for the tips. I’m with you on the signs. If I’m buying an original , some deterioration is ok. If I’m buying a reproduction I want it pristine.. great show , thank you.
That fiber wheel is a game changer! 😃👍
So is Snoopy looking for peace and quiet or jamming out to his favorite tunes? Lol
I really appreciated you showing how to tighten up some old pliers. I'd never thought that it was even possible. I'll have to remember that trick.
Pliers came out great I bought a couple of repop signs that looked weathered because I remember the original ones at gas station I frequent
Well, I enjoy bringing old things back to what they looked like when new or close to new, like my radios.
ScoutCrafter,
It's time for another sea story. I have heard of hydrogen embrittlement, I want to say it was associated with boiler feed water. But, I can't say for certain.
In the early 1980s, we had 2 - 188,500 DWT tankers. They were built with double bottoms. The double bottoms were coated with 2 coats of epoxy paint. The cargo tanks were left uncoated. The reasoning was the tanks were filled with inert gas and crude oil. It was believed that corrosion would be minimal since there the inert gas had an oxygen content of around 5%. It was believed the crude oil on bare steel would act as a rust inhibitor.
After receiving reports of severe pitting we went to look at the pits. On the bottom of the tank you could find pits about 1/2" to 3/4" in diameter and a 1/4" deep. The pits had water in them as a result of tank cleaning and condensation from the high humidity. If you rub your finger in a pit and force the water out of the pit the steel will polish to a shine. There was also an increased number of pits near welds
Ultimately it was found that a combination of sulfur in the crude oil and inert gas along with the water produced sulfuric acid, which included turn created the pitting. The increase in pits near welds was due to water collecting because of the raised bead of the weld, and the heat-affected zone near the weld.
The problem was solved by coating the steel with epoxy paint and increasing the number of anodes.
Bob
Very interesting indeed Bob! Thanks!!! 👍
Let us know how your eclipse experience went. Don’t keep us in the dark. That long nose pliers came out great, lots of great tips. The bluing looked nice on the handles.
I saw a partial eclipse this morning in Los Angeles. While working outside a woman passersby asked me I had seen the eclipse I chuckled and said no. She waved the glasses at me and said check it out. There are still good people out there. That kind gesture made my day.
BTW what you got goin on there is only going to get worse. How blue we are.
You are so right!
Perfect Eclipse viewing around here, sitting in an Adirondack with my Welding Helmet on. Blocks out everything but the Eclipse by using the Helmet and the Adirondack gives a great angle while watching.
Needle nose pliers are my favorite to clean up. Great job.
Glad you weren't badly affected by the Earthquake John, they're sent just to remind us where we truly fit in the natural order of things !
Those pliers are a very elegant design and your restoration was spot on - I love the blued handles and the polished jaws and that method of aligning the jaws using the vice and wrench I will definitely be using - the fact that you "nudge" it rather than muscle down on it, much like you advise with bound threads and thread cutting is an important mental note for me !
I have one of those antiqued "Dependable Champion" repro tin signs - personally I feel there's a place for both depending on the setting and use, but I think this design was only available distressed so I had little choice in the matter !
Here's a thought if the whole distressed look is fashionable then day by day as we get more liney and scarred we're all getting more and more stylish - how about that ! 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent teaching video today. Great tips! Was that Sammy’s gas station across the street from the five corners? Where the heck do you get all the crazy pictures that you insert into your mosh?😂😊
Frank- Nicky and Sammy Milano! 😂👍
The intruder alarm is a pretty bad way to wake up. I jump out of bed ready for the fight, while also crapping my pants, wondering who's in the house.
But in my opinion the most effective alarm clock known to man is cramp (I think you guys called it charlie horse or something similar). When I get that in say my calf, I literally levitate out of bed.
S.C. the pliers turned out beautiful.. Will from Germany would be proud...lol .. thx for sharing...
I think chalk paint has ruined flea narkets. Great video Scout
Those pliers are great. I held back collecting too much oil and gas memorabilia. Just finished watching the eclipse. Very cool. Yup, the signs have their own patina.
I don’t understand it either. What drives me nuts is when they take a beautiful piece of wood furniture and paint it. 🤦♂️
Back when I was in high school our shop class instructor was building a beautiful table to show us how to use tools. I was horrified to see him bang on it with chains and hammers. He said he wanted an antique look.
As usual a great job on the pliers John. Hope you got to enjoy the eclipse, I once experience a total one in Austria and it made a huge impression on me.
In regards to the fake rust and weathering of items: it's horrible, I just dislike anything fake. I guess it's a trend made to appeal to the masses that pay extra for brand new clothes with holes in them.
The weirdest to me is the concept/genre of "steampunk": agglomerated random bits and bobs, incoherently thrown together into fictitious objects that are supposed to appear like weathered steam era industrial items.
Everyone needs a pair or two of long nose pliers. They have that reach. I bought my first pair for home electrical work. The insulation isn't considered enough for live wires but it will keep back the tingle. Great for reaching into deep outlet boxes. Sme for thing in moters. As to the "old" look. I pass as you know. The funniest to me is people that think they are reenctors. Do you think a soldier wants to be handed old gear? If it was new in those days they wanted it to be new. I think it was the bluejean industry taking up a trend, then people to lazy or cheap to refinnish items so they make excuses. Instead of admitting they don't have the money for $10-$20k paint job they come up with a reason. When I was young you used 3 options, primer, black or white paint as they were the cheapest by the gallon. You flat out said you couldn't or didn't want to spend the money for paint. It was honest up front like job titles.
The ripped blue jeans drive me nuts! 😂😂😂
John I am with you on the fake aging of signs...
I like the new looking signage, just as I enjoy fresh, not stale, cookies.
Hi John,
I think disassembling the calipers would be best to keep the string out of the vinegar. At least on mine, it is very easy.
Nice plier restoration..And its a german one..Great.
I've got one set of long nose that look like your 'before' but work nice. You'rs are SHARP! I was taking a nap one afternoon and thought my Sweetie was shaking the bed. Nobody there. My Sweetie was in the back working the p.c. and looked at the dog and it fell over. Good old Carolina tremor. Happy wek, Shaky John and God Bless!
The Will pliers are absolutely elegant. Very nice work ScoutCrafter.
I Don't need applied aging. I have a lot of old possessions that show their age. I can't afford the pristine, new looking stuff.
All the best.
Me too! Including myself! 😂👍
Nice job on those pliers. I have a set similar to those that were my Dad's. I may have to give them the same kind of love.
Those needle nose pliers are super nice,but as the signs go I have a couple of old ones and some nice ones but mostly old hubcaps😅. Great episode and see you next time
4:20 WILL have to hit it with a wire brush first… Never heard of Will here in Germany, but yeah, they’ve been around since 1844, one of a gazillion toolmakers in Germany, all good quality. Still need me a pair of long nose ones.
I'm with you I like m e it looking new . I like watching movies from the 50s and 60s just to watch the background Gas Stations or supermarkets. Maybe it's because we were in the military and had to take old beatup items and make them shine for inspections ?
Hi John, still get a chuckle with your Patina Boys pic. Great tips for plier restoration. The bluing does look great.
Best Regards,
John
As usual, an outstanding, meticulous restoration. I am with you on the artificial aging stuff (insert another word)!
I'd rather by a brand new sign of an old product! it can age and rust during my watch.
Great job on the long nose pliers ScoutCrafter. I feel the same way about patina and rust. It’s just like the rat rods. Maybe all together they are interesting, but park a rat rod near a car or truck where someone has worked really hard to have a beautiful finish and they look out of place and junky. Don’t get me wrong, I like rat rods but I like a nice shiny finish too.🔨🔧🔨🔧
Yes! A real Rat rod is interesting but the fake rat rods aren’t! 😂👍
That bluing really makes the handle embellishment pop and the contrast with the polished end looks great!
Hey Scout, I've got a question. Could you make a video, on how you do the bluing on the handles of a pair of pliers? I'm really interested in seeing how this is done! I mean, come on!? You make them look, like you just bought them off the shelf of a store! It's a store I go to in a dream induced, tool shopping, type of dream. The store, would obviously carry tools from.... well, you know, forever....... lol I'm jk. But I'd love to see how you make the handles look, so uniform during the bluing process, uniform and perfect! Anyhow, thanks for another awesome tool video! Take care, until next time!
Needle nose pliers are one of my favorite hobby tools. They aren't designed for heavy duty work. Your pair turned out beautifully. Looks like it was a good quality tool in the first place. I don't like patina on tools or furniture etc. and I don't like the fake weathering on petroliana signs either. I'm a little baffled at people, especially young women, who buy brand new but pre- torn and worn clothes off the rack. What's wrong with wearing nice crisp new clothes?
I wish I could see the appeal but I've heard too many stories of people shooting at those oil cans because of how much they hate them. my daddy always taught me stay away from those oil cans.
Great job on the needle nose pliers. I’m with you on the weathered/rusted look. Definitely not one of the patina boys. I’d rather the vintage stuff look new.
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Pliers are on point, Mr. John! I'll take an orginal with rust (which is about all I can afford with sign prices these days) only re-pops I have are ine given to me by family... Clipart was on point today as well! 🤠👍
Long nose pilers perfect for light to med spring install and removal... 👍😎🤠💣
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I’m with you! Nothing aggravates me more than when I find a really cool looking reproduction tin sign, and it has that fake patina/rust effect. It makes absolutely no sense. I feel like maybe if they deform the edges of the sign or take out a chunk or two to really imitate “wear” or emboss some of the logos and make it more multi dimensional instead of just a crisp clean cut sign with fake rust surrounding it maybe I could get on board 😂 end rant
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I saw the new “old” signs yesterday at elephants trunk flea market. It’s just silly. Great pliers. Love the patina boys!! In between Scoutcrafter episodes I’ve been watching old BBC antiques road trip series. They talk about “patinazation”.
Andrew! How was The Trunk yesterday? It was cold right? I almost went! 😃👍
It was a bit chilly but it was good to get up there and see what the vendors had. A few more tool guys I noticed.
Mighty fine job Sir.
I’m with you John, I don’t get the appeal of reproduction signs, furniture, ect. being INTENTIONALLY aged, weathered, scratched or beaten up & abused.
Pliers look great…🖖
It took me a couple years to stop grabbing those long thin super sharp lengths of swarf that come from cutting metal on a lathe. Especially when i moved onto the horizontal borer really cutting long swarf. Anyway a good set of needle nose pliers was in my hand every time i had a good cut going. Stopped it wrapping around me or cutting my hands.
So true! 😃👍
Amazing video! You made my day!!! Thanks for all your hard work!
they're still in business, i have pair of angled pliers from them, it's orbis will, not sure if they're separate entity, i think orbis bought will and then knipex bought orbis
Scoutcrafter have you ever restored a draw knife? See them at garage sales needing everything from a litlle TLC to full blown heart transplant!
I don't get it either! It's kinda like those people who do 20 layers of clear coat over rust on a car and call it a survivor! Anyway, there are all k8nds of tastes!
Another great video. I have quite a few will tools from the 1980s. They must have been after the North American market ( I live in Canada). Those pliers came out very nice. That is how I open my glue bottles. I don't have earthquake insurance, so I may have to reconsider.
Strongly disagree John with Worse way to get woken up is by a smoke detector, id say the worst way to get woken up is by your cell mate "Tiny"
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Great video. Thank you. What kind of maniac does not love the Dake?
I find rust detestable in all its forms and enjoy its removal, be it on tools, signs, cars, etc… :)
Take the barrel spring off by opening them all the way up and taping it out, and use steel wool it, Eck usmc
John, thanks for the info. You may have saved me from destroying some spring calipers!
I wondered about the ad visibility of disassembling the tool, as Alex describes. Have you ever done it? I would be concerned about reassembly, and he doesn't say how.
Pliers look great, by the way!
"Hydrogen embrittlement" of steel can be resolved. Heat the steel up to 325 degrees in an oven for a few hours. Might be a bit too much rather than mechanical rust removal.🙂
Nice job on the light bulb and pliers. Did you get that photo of the eclipse through the welding helmet? If so, it came out very good. Thanks for passing it on.
Great video today. I'm still looking for my first pair of ling nose pliers.
Nothing beats an old ceramic sign (the rust are only signs of time). Personaly, I am a collector and only colect original stuff, no reproductions. I prefer not to have them.
Porcelain signs are the most desirable. They were so durable too.
I thought of you when I saw the quake online the Statue of Liberty 🗽 was rocking and rolling New York is going to hell that’s for sure such a shame maybe it will turn around when 47 comes back god bless take care 🇳🇿🇺🇸🗽🦅🪖47/FJB🤬
If you clean the glue tip after each use you won’t need the pliers 😜
The tip always gets stuck…. It’s the glue under the tip that sticks.
@@ScoutCrafter After struggling with it a few times I now take the tip off when I’m done and clean it, no more sticking.
OK good video again, maybe I am just a goof, but can you explain what meaning of "Dropped Forged" mensa, I have always seen it, and rather than go to Google, I rather like to here from a veteran "person" of some explanations.
Dropped forging is a process where a piece of steel is heated up to just the right temperature and placed in a machine that has two dies one on top and one on the bottom, the hot steel is placed between the dies and the machine drops (with force) the top die onto the bottom die squishing the steel blank into a desired shape. This is a very good way of forming the tool and adds tremendous strength and toughness. It’s an expensive process due to the making of the dies and experience machinery but Dropped forging is really desirable. 😃👍
Thanks, I was wondering the same thing!
Interesting history of those pliers and the company, the influence to several Knipex pliers I’ve seen recently show through for sure. Fake rusty signs, and a weathered appearance, sometimes referred to as “the grunge look” do nothing for me. The have to make it look new first, so just leave it alone. Who lays out good money to buy a pair of jeans that look like two Honey Badgers ripped them to pieces, at the same time believing they look stylish? Love the two finishes on the pliers, just a beautiful contrast.
Beautiful restoration what brand of bluing do you use.
I like new and shiney
It looks brand new.
No matter what chemical you use on rusty metal.have ever noticed the smell of what ever you cleaned and the porosity of the metal almost an etchy feal
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Hi John, what did you think of the eclipse? Hope you got to view it with your telescope and a filter.
Hi Steve! Just a welding helmet. 😃👍
Funny how different people view things. I prefer the signage to look like it did when it was new. Or somebody buys a motorbike, rips off the muffler and then changes to some loud pipes. Then attempt to sell it, saying "Super-Duper GlassPack thingamee deluxe pipes" that really bark. When I say "That is not a selling point, it will cost me to change it back to standard". Then can't understand what you are saying. Or people who buy beaten up jeans or guitars that look like they are ready to fall apart?
How about blue jeans ripped up. People pay big bucks
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Hi John, great restoration. What type of blueing did you use? Hot or cold? Thank you.🙏🏻
I use Brownells oxoblue cold bluing 😃👍
"What we got going on here" I laughed outload bigtime! John what brand of bluing do you use? We all had a pair of these pliers in our tackle boxes to remove hooks. its the goofball people on cable who buy and sell rusty stuff who are to blame. They cant find good stuff anymore so they promote old and weathered crap as cool.
Yes! I use Brownells Oxpho bluing (cold bluing)
@@ScoutCrafter Thank you,sir
I can see how a reproduction would seem “less fake” when it’s in perfect condition - but people like the distressed look, so if it’s a reproduction anyway, why not fake the weathering as well. As for originals, any condition is valuable: if you find new old stock in perfect condition, you take it to a collector and make a killing. If it’s beaten to hell and totally faded, you sell it to someone who wants to bring some character into their home and make a killing as well. Either version is worth far more to the respective buyer than the other.
I’m not into it, but if I was, I would solve it differently: can’t afford or can’t find originals, don’t want reproductions? Hang large photographs instead, or take the graphics, have them printed on good paper and frame them.
I like the old worn look .can't help it. I like the new look to.they are like people,it makes for contrast and variety. If they were all the same it would be kinda boreing.
Sorry John but I like my signs looking old 🥃 👍 😊
I just think that false patina is pointless and ...Well, fake.
Nope, don’t like the fake patina at all. I like them to be original , but the best condition they can be in.
I'm not a fan of 'fake' aging.