Naked and Famous is a Canadian company, manufacturing all their denim in Canada and their jeans are a fantastic value proposition. I bought a pair a couple of months ago and I'm addicted.
@@disabledtim7242 Naked and Famous are available at Blueowl, Tate&Yoko, and their own NYC shop online among other places. There's also Bravestar and Railcar Fine Goods right in California.
I wouldn’t be able to get past the honeycombing on the back of the calf. Filson has just become one of those companies. They have only a handful of products which are priced appropriately
@@CarlMurawski items I’d consider worth purchasing would be either a mackinaw cruiser jacket or a tin cloth backpack. Jeans and Shirts are definitely overpriced for what you are getting.
Buy their stuff on eBay. It's half price or better, and it is the older line, which is higher quality than the current line. Stains and moth holes are a good thing. They mean discounts.
Another great video...As a subscriber and LONG time Filson customer (30 plus years) - who owns a horse farm - I too am confused about Filson's Customer - or at least who they are targeting. I still love their Tin Cloth and Mackinaw Wool items and we own a TON of it, along with their luggage and briefcases. Those item rarely disappoint. I laughed when you used the Range Rover Reference. We have owned a LOT of vehicles over the years but we have settled on Lexus and Toyota usually. We love the Land Cruisers and to me LC are similar to the OLD Filson. The Land Cruiser is a 90K dollar vehicle that does not try to impress with looks...it JUST PERFORMS. We've actually had Range Rovers (it has been 25 - 30 years ago) and they are comfortable and look great...everyone knows you are driving an expensive vehicle. However we've found that there is no comparison to the Land Cruiser and a Range Rover...one (LC) is unassuming, tough and dependable and a great value (even though the price is high) and the other (RR) is flashy, good out of the gate but not as tough as it looks. That to me is the difference in Filson today and Filson of yesterday (with a FEW exceptions).
Carl, I’m really liking this format of “Let me show you something. Now allow me to show you great practical, quality per price point options.” WRT The Filson Rail Splitter Jeans, I’d say they are for the the Neiman Marcus crowd. Interpret that however you see fit.
I'm a big guy and outfitters like Filson are a crapshoot for any sizes beyond the mainstream. I''ve been willing invest in heritage or heirloom clothing and gear and the brands that make styles that fit me will continue to get my money and I won't look back. I appreciate the honest reviews you provide, as they help reinforce or sometimes correct our own conclusions.
Same, I stick with Duluth. They seem to be one of the only hardwearing clothing companies that can fit me. Even though I'm a big fan of Filson's aesthetic!
I am a fan of Filson and was looking at these up until you pointed out that the honeycombs (that i didnt even notice were there) will be on my calves.. thanks for doing the review! Plus one on recommending Tellason stock, fantastic jean for the price.
I’ve had nice selvedge denim and I liked it but you can’t beat a good pair of wranglers. I spent 150 on 5 pair of wrangler slim boot retro’s 10 years ago and only one has gotten to beat up to wear and it was my own fault plasma cutting. But the rest look awesome. By the darkest blues and just wear them to pieces. Maybe up north you need thicker denim but not here in Texas.
I purchased Origin’s Factory Jeans in November based on your review and have been extremely impressed. I hope they expand their denim line. Question, any chance of getting a Left Field NYC Vidalia Mills review? 🤞🏻
Rocking the Dearborn denim. Was choosing between those and these, and for the price and this review. I'm glad I went with the Dearborns. 😎 another good review.
Went to the filson store, and I was absolutely shocked when I took a look at their jeans, not at the price, that’s just expected but wow they felt soooo cheap. I mean they were paper thin they didn’t even feel like jeans.
I just bought a pair of Kimes raw Dillon jeans for $99.00. and these were the most expensive pair of jeans I have ever bought! They are good, but for 55 bucks, my George Strait Wranglers are hard to beat!! Thanks for a great video Carl! BTW, my Nick's Bison's are wearing absolutely outstanding!! They are my favorite boots right now! Beating the heck out of my brand new Truman's!
I saw them in the Boston Filson store when they first released, almost bought the selvedge ones but couldn't justify it having just bought some Tellasons
@@jimshen0308 I was lucky enough to find a store in Dallas that had tellason so I was able to try on a pair and get my size. It is very frustrating that they don't have measurements on their site
They have free returns and a fit guide that’s on their site. Email Tony or Pete the owners. Best in the biz. I’ve been a customer for ten years. Buy a pair and find your size you will not go back. Actually the first Filson Jeans from like 2010 were made by Tellason in black and blue.
Always a big fan of your reviews! A little suggestion however. I have to crank my display's brightness all the way up with a couple of your recent videos. I want to see that B-roll in all of its glory, hard when I have to squint 😉
I tried on a pair of the railsplitter selvedge recently. Looked and felt great. But the '33 fixed inseam was the dealbreaker: might be too short post firstwash.
I have had the high end jeans but recently looking at well made decent weight at a decent price, but build quality must be there. Look at Kitanica jeans. I will say build quality is very good and materials are about middle of the road. Still enjoying my Jean Shop heavy Selvedge rockers.
I cannot believe that you mentioned Origin denim. I know them because of BJJ gi and their gi are tier 1. I was on the fence on their denim jeans though.
@@CarlMurawski I just came back from a Filson store and tried on the selvedged denim jeans. At 14 oz, they're thick and stiff as hell. I have bought some good denim jeans but these were not worth $255 IMO.
I work in filson and it works. And I’m not the Range Rover class I’m to poor to buy cheap and if you’re the boss or a one man show the class of the work wear will pay for it’s self.
I don't know if this has been asked, but have you reviewed Round House Jeans? They stated they are made in the USA with US cotton. Plus they are about 50 bucks a pair.
Good review. These jeans make no sense. I own some filson bags. They're great, but I would stay away from their jeans. Fake honeycombs are just stupid. Jeans are clearly not their forte. I agree, go with Brave Star or Telleson. They source better fabrics and understand the heritage much better. Thanks.
I think your jeans were pre-worn, maybe returned. Mine had none of this and were actually pretty stiff and new feeling. Mine were also $145 in the store, so maybe they dropped the price.
@@CarlMurawski Conversely, these premium jeans should be offered in inseams of 32" for those who want the jean length to fit properly without have to cut and reseam the end of the pant leg. One size does not fit all.
@@CarlMurawski yeah I understand, I have Occidental leather bags and as good as they are I’m always trying to better them. thanks for answering I know you get a lot of questions, thanks for taking your time. Big fan by the way
Real "First World Problems" here. $165 -$205 for a pair of jeans? No way. I have a hard time with $50. Jeans are not dress clothes, they are work and casual clothing. I did buy a pair of Nick's "Carl Murawski Specials", but boots are different ;-) Still waiting on the Nick's...
I think the bigger problem here is that there is no pair of Filson jeans that come even close to 150 bucks these days, they frikkin START at like 200 hey. So yeah, definitely for the passionate Filson fan rather than the highest quality denim chaser.
Haha you're same as me. I have their twill duffle bag on my cart but haven't gotten around to pulling the trigger. I just can't justify the 395 price tag.
I love the look and durability of the heritage clothing but I don't feel the need to fit into a box. My Tin cloth cruiser looks great with an Under Armour running hoody underneath. F'em
Filson was a company I bought from 20 years ago before the Fossil Hucksters bought it and made it for tech hipsters who pay premium prices for “imported” goods. Tellason made the original Filson Jeans in 2009ish or 2010. Those were from Cone USA Denim (rip). Get some Tellason Ankara in your waist size-free hems. Never look back.
Sadly you’re correct. Brentwood associates and Bedrock Manufacturing Co have made a bloody mess of Filson. I appreciate the fact that they keep the core products unchanged and made in the US, but $135 for an imported short is insane.
@@CarlMurawski I love your channel Carl and your intelligence. I have a mackinaw from 1999 and a packer coat from the 70s. I’ll leave it at that. The obvious capitalization off branding over quality is atrocious. Ll bean sells the same imported shirts half off. Wish Bean made shirts here still. Honestly my entire wardrobe now is Tellason. Two guys who treat customers right and have always done it the right way. Thanks again Carl .
Not for me I buy for quality and USA made, if I can get better cheaper there is no point. I have 2 pairs of origin on order just waiting on them it's been about 5 weeks so far.
Awesome video! I ordered a custom pair of Northern Trading Co boots 5 months ago and can’t even get a response from the company. I know they are real or you wouldn’t have done a video but this is very frustrating to spend $400 on something and can’t even get an update.
Damn. I’ve heard a lot of shady stuff about them lately and it’s really bothering me. They were amazing to me, but they also knew I was making a video. I’ve heard a lot about delays and bad customer service which makes me really uneasy. They did a terrific job, but I’m really concerned about the feedback I’m hearing. Maybe I can reach out on your behalf?
I have been wearing selvedge denim for over 25 years and own about 75 pairs. Worked in the denim/garment industry for over 20 years (No I do not own any Filsons). However, I have been at the stores in Portland and Seattle and personally inspected their jeans and quickly came to the conclusion that there are nothing special. No all selvedge are made the same. It all starts with a quality organic cotton and natural organic indigo. Those two pair with great patternmaking and precision stitching and your are for a treat! I do enjoy my Filson hats!
I purchased a pair of Filson double layer duck work pants. Paid $180. They are good pants but not any better than Carhartt or Duluth. I wouldn’t purchase again.
Sorta on topic... I've wanted Filson Tin Pants for a while now, but have held off because you're not supposed to wash them. The wobbly bits have a habit of sweating up a storm during periods of exertion. This, coupled with the occasional expulsion of vapors, or God forbid a shart... have led me to the conclusion that they're not for me. Are they intended to be worn until they take on a life of their own?
Don't have them myself but know people who do, you can't wash them but they will give themselves a spray down with the power washer when they're cleaning the house
What's your end goal for them? Really they're a wet winter work pant, made for long john weather and snow, not really a fashion piece. They make tin cloth chaps, and I've been seriously considering getting a pair for upland bird hunting.
I used to wear the double tin pants working as a logger, I had a bottle of colloidal silver I spritzed the crotch with once a week and would spray them with the hose occasionally, they are great for specific types of work or hunting but not for "casual" wear.
@@Saw_Squatch Cutting & hauling standing dead timber in inclement weather. Processing said timber into firewood. I was a U.S.F.S. sawyer for years. I've gotten by for a long time using heavy duck pants (Nomex in the Forest Service) with Patagonia longs under & North Face Gore-Tex over. I don't rock much in the way of fashion! Ha! The Tin Pants intrigue me. The ideas posted here have inspired me to give them a try. I appreciate your response. Thanks!
Dearborn and Roundhouse are reputable companies that have 100 percent USA jeans at reasonable prices. They vary from around forty to eighty bucks depending on what style you choose. I can see myself paying forty for work jeans made in the USA. Filson has good stuff but 165 for denim woven in Viet Nam is a no go. I'd rather find a small producer from my local area or buy Japanese jeans if I'm going above fifty bucks looking to make a fashion statement. Heck 10 to 15 dollar Costco Jeans are all I need for something to play in the mud.
Coming from someone who owns several products from them, it's a bit funky when trying to navigate the company. On one hand, they offer tough as nails products like the Mackinaw Cruiser or the Tin Cloth products. Made in the US charging a premium price...with imported materials with little way of finding out where it's from. Stuff that people could take pride in owning and using. In the very same vein, they have the lines that takes full advantage of the name offering a mediocre product, made overseas. Clearly made to dupe people unaware of the lines reputation or their only concern is for the name.
Yeah, it’s too bad. This tends to happen with brands that have positive name recognition. Think of North Face. Hopefully they’ll always keep those cornerstone products which have historically been great.
Ahh overpriced, best part of these is the Zipper which should’ve been Buttons and the Pocket Bags. Good review as always, I certainly won’t buy these I think for the price a Pair Of Jcrew Selvedge is a Better option at this price point
I do agree that Filson is confuse about this jeans as they are putting it in a category. Seems like Filson is experimenting with denim and their inexperienced is showing. Let's not overthink it. FIlson is an outdoor / traveler brand. If the products they make can be used for work, that is good. Whoever the designer and technical designer for this jeans needs to be check and train. Why make a 33" and 34" inseam. That is absolutely stupid. Filson should have make it 34" inseam for small size and 36" or 28" for larger sizes. Also, for the whiskers, that is on the designer fault beacause they tell the factory where to put the whiskers and distress. Selvedge jeans is overrated as putting of the self edge is to make sure the yarns do not unravel on the sides. Alsip, it is not a mark of high quality jeans. It just so happens that looms and machines have shorter width for making selvedge jeans. The mark of high quality denim are the dyes and the cotton.
Carl, end the madness and try "Levi's Men's 550 Relaxed Fit Jeans" in "Black Waterless" on Amazon. They are 40 bucks. I was a denim head for years, Iron Heart, LVC, all the great Japanese brands, and these are the best I have worn in terms of comfort, durability, and bang for buck.
Never had a Filson. Never will. Just another overseas company trying to milk every cent out of their customers and product. Try brave star. Us made in Cali. Half the price.
I’m considering becoming Filson-free. I have a waxed jacket and a mackinaw wool hat and honestly I’m not really impressed at this point. A bunch of their crap is not great and they’re becoming another company that MEANT something but that doesn’t MEAN anything.
Me and Jeans. Head to thrift store, find a pair of 501’s or 505’s that are nicely broken in with honeycombs and creases, pay my $9.50 and let sucker hipsters fork over $100’s for selvedge denim.
My biggest gripe with filson, is the fact that they are slowly becoming an outsourcing company. They idolize themselves for being American. But everything they’ve released in the past year is made in Bangladesh or Sri Lanka, other than a pair of 250$+ knitted mittens ?!? But seriously, they are still asking American made prices for products made in Bangladesh by child slaves. Bangladesh is rated the absolute worst country in the world in terms of clothing producers. Items are so cheap there that even China outsources to Bangladesh to open sweatshops and slave labor.
@@charlesbronson240 My grandfather has been dead for over 50 years and no jeans made today are worth what you think nor of the quality you think. They are work wear, not a uniform for hipster dufuses.
@@charlesbarry7479 i can see where you are coming from, but if you put my bravestar jeans next to my wrangler work jeans, anyone could see the difference in quality. Also, hipsters have nothing to do with it, i buy nice jeans because I appreciate the quality and the fact that they’re made in the USA 100%
Filson makes clothing now for millennial trash that likes to pretend they’re doing work 😂 Even circa 2000, Filson was making hardcore stuff. Now they have about 6 products they haven’t ruined. Give them a minute and they’ll get to them too.
@@Rangerglx Awesome. I am old, have been loyal to Filson forever, and am happy to have those items, every fall and winter. That said, I loved Brooks Bros until they started (and continued) to suck. Hope Filson isn't headed down that road.
Naked and Famous is a Canadian company, manufacturing all their denim in Canada and their jeans are a fantastic value proposition. I bought a pair a couple of months ago and I'm addicted.
N&F are awesome, I own a few pairs. I’d suggest anyone buy N&F over Filson any day.
Thank you Sir, I'm taking you up on the advice. Denimio (Dot Com) ?
Naked and Famous is awesome! I’m going to do a video tour of their factory soon!
@@disabledtim7242 Naked and Famous are available at Blueowl, Tate&Yoko, and their own NYC shop online among other places. There's also Bravestar and Railcar Fine Goods right in California.
@@CarlMurawski Would really appreciate it. They deserve a shout out in my opinion.
I wouldn’t be able to get past the honeycombing on the back of the calf. Filson has just become one of those companies. They have only a handful of products which are priced appropriately
Agreed. It seems like they use their shirts and other products to bankroll the products they make well like the mackinaw wool and luggage.
@@CarlMurawski items I’d consider worth purchasing would be either a mackinaw cruiser jacket or a tin cloth backpack. Jeans and Shirts are definitely overpriced for what you are getting.
Buy their stuff on eBay. It's half price or better, and it is the older line, which is higher quality than the current line. Stains and moth holes are a good thing. They mean discounts.
There's a reason for that, those are all made in Asia.
Another great video...As a subscriber and LONG time Filson customer (30 plus years) - who owns a horse farm - I too am confused about Filson's Customer - or at least who they are targeting. I still love their Tin Cloth and Mackinaw Wool items and we own a TON of it, along with their luggage and briefcases. Those item rarely disappoint. I laughed when you used the Range Rover Reference. We have owned a LOT of vehicles over the years but we have settled on Lexus and Toyota usually. We love the Land Cruisers and to me LC are similar to the OLD Filson.
The Land Cruiser is a 90K dollar vehicle that does not try to impress with looks...it JUST PERFORMS. We've actually had Range Rovers (it has been 25 - 30 years ago) and they are comfortable and look great...everyone knows you are driving an expensive vehicle. However we've found that there is no comparison to the Land Cruiser and a Range Rover...one (LC) is unassuming, tough and dependable and a great value (even though the price is high) and the other (RR) is flashy, good out of the gate but not as tough as it looks. That to me is the difference in Filson today and Filson of yesterday (with a FEW exceptions).
Well said!
Carl, I’m really liking this format of “Let me show you something. Now allow me to show you great practical, quality per price point options.” WRT The Filson Rail Splitter Jeans, I’d say they are for the the Neiman Marcus crowd. Interpret that however you see fit.
I'm a big guy and outfitters like Filson are a crapshoot for any sizes beyond the mainstream. I''ve been willing invest in heritage or heirloom clothing and gear and the brands that make styles that fit me will continue to get my money and I won't look back. I appreciate the honest reviews you provide, as they help reinforce or sometimes correct our own conclusions.
Thank you sir!!!
Same, I stick with Duluth. They seem to be one of the only hardwearing clothing companies that can fit me. Even though I'm a big fan of Filson's aesthetic!
I am a fan of Filson and was looking at these up until you pointed out that the honeycombs (that i didnt even notice were there) will be on my calves.. thanks for doing the review! Plus one on recommending Tellason stock, fantastic jean for the price.
I’ve had nice selvedge denim and I liked it but you can’t beat a good pair of wranglers. I spent 150 on 5 pair of wrangler slim boot retro’s 10 years ago and only one has gotten to beat up to wear and it was my own fault plasma cutting. But the rest look awesome. By the darkest blues and just wear them to pieces. Maybe up north you need thicker denim but not here in Texas.
I purchased Origin’s Factory Jeans in November based on your review and have been extremely impressed. I hope they expand their denim line. Question, any chance of getting a Left Field NYC Vidalia Mills review? 🤞🏻
Good to hear, I got a pair on route
Absolutely! In fact I spoke with the guy from Visalia Mills last week.
@Tony I'm thinking of ordering a pair, why are you disappointed?
Rocking the Dearborn denim. Was choosing between those and these, and for the price and this review. I'm glad I went with the Dearborns. 😎 another good review.
These look like $30 Target jeans with Filson premium upcharge.
Couldn't agree more. Filson's forté is Mackinaw wool, Tin Cloth, and waxed fabrics. Some Filson items frankly suck.
Went to the filson store, and I was absolutely shocked when I took a look at their jeans, not at the price, that’s just expected but wow they felt soooo cheap. I mean they were paper thin they didn’t even feel like jeans.
I have some Filson wool coats and shirts, I work in them all the time and they hold up in rough environments
If you want another affordable option for jeans that are made in America look at Texas Jeans. They're around $30.
I'm a Left Field NYC guy for jeans. Price point is a little high but worth it. Bravestar Selvedge is good as well.
I just bought a pair of Kimes raw Dillon jeans for $99.00. and these were the most expensive pair of jeans I have ever bought! They are good, but for 55 bucks, my George Strait Wranglers are hard to beat!! Thanks for a great video Carl! BTW, my Nick's Bison's are wearing absolutely outstanding!! They are my favorite boots right now! Beating the heck out of my brand new Truman's!
Awesome!!! I’m so glad. Those are a true joy to wear, and I’m happy
To hear they’re gone to a good home!
I saw them in the Boston Filson store when they first released, almost bought the selvedge ones but couldn't justify it having just bought some Tellasons
the only thing that stops me from buying from Tellason is that they still have not include size chart/shrink chart on the website.
@@jimshen0308 I was lucky enough to find a store in Dallas that had tellason so I was able to try on a pair and get my size. It is very frustrating that they don't have measurements on their site
They have free returns and a fit guide that’s on their site. Email Tony or Pete the owners. Best in the biz. I’ve been a customer for ten years. Buy a pair and find your size you will not go back. Actually the first Filson Jeans from like 2010 were made by Tellason in black and blue.
I think you nailed the target Filson consumer. Some that are less tactful might call us posers, but like you said it's my money! Great video as usual.
Absolutely! And I have plenty of Filson stuff that I love, but sometimes they just miss the mark a little.
@@CarlMurawski Don't you dare say nay of my Chelan Snack Table. It's made of kiln dried wood! Definitely worth my hard earned money....
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Always a big fan of your reviews! A little suggestion however. I have to crank my display's brightness all the way up with a couple of your recent videos. I want to see that B-roll in all of its glory, hard when I have to squint 😉
Much appreciated! It’s hard to gauge how the end video will look on my computer screen.
How did the waist fit/measure with these? True to size? Are you going to try the selvedge now that they're in stock
I tried on a pair of the railsplitter selvedge recently. Looked and felt great. But the '33 fixed inseam was the dealbreaker: might be too short post firstwash.
I have had the high end jeans but recently looking at well made decent weight at a decent price, but build quality must be there. Look at Kitanica jeans. I will say build quality is very good and materials are about middle of the road. Still enjoying my Jean Shop heavy Selvedge rockers.
I cannot believe that you mentioned Origin denim. I know them because of BJJ gi and their gi are tier 1. I was on the fence on their denim jeans though.
Their denim is absolutely fantastic! You definitely should check it out.
@@CarlMurawski I just came back from a Filson store and tried on the selvedged denim jeans. At 14 oz, they're thick and stiff as hell. I have bought some good denim jeans but these were not worth $255 IMO.
I work in filson and it works. And I’m not the Range Rover class I’m to poor to buy cheap and if you’re the boss or a one man show the class of the work wear will pay for it’s self.
I don't know if this has been asked, but have you reviewed Round House Jeans? They stated they are made in the USA with US cotton. Plus they are about 50 bucks a pair.
I actually got a pair for the overalls comparison I’m doing soon!
@@CarlMurawski Looking forward to the review! Thank you for the update. Keep up the great work!
Listening to your guess on clientele for these pants my mind went to the Seinfeld episode where Kramer was pondering if he was a "Hipster Doofus" 😊
Hahahaha I’ll never forget that! What an amazing show, even though it was 20 years ago!
Good review. These jeans make no sense. I own some filson bags. They're great, but I would stay away from their jeans. Fake honeycombs are just stupid. Jeans are clearly not their forte. I agree, go with Brave Star or Telleson. They source better fabrics and understand the heritage much better. Thanks.
I think your jeans were pre-worn, maybe returned. Mine had none of this and were actually pretty stiff and new feeling. Mine were also $145 in the store, so maybe they dropped the price.
Any premium jean misses the mark if they do not offer 36" inseam. I don't begin to waste my time even considering such work wear.
Absolutely agreed. Thank you for sharing your thoughts Robert, I hope you’ve been well!
@@CarlMurawski Conversely, these premium jeans should be offered in inseams of 32" for those who want the jean length to fit properly without have to cut and reseam the end of the pant leg. One size does not fit all.
I want to try the Origin jeans, but my size is around 42 in the waist and they only go up to 40....
Nice review, thanks.
Hey man do a review on the tool belt setup you have/had. Love your channel by the way
Thanks man!!! I was never really satisfied with the toolbelt I had. It just never seemed quite right, you know?
@@CarlMurawski yeah I understand, I have Occidental leather bags and as good as they are I’m always trying to better them. thanks for answering I know you get a lot of questions, thanks for taking your time. Big fan by the way
Real "First World Problems" here. $165 -$205 for a pair of jeans? No way. I have a hard time with $50. Jeans are not dress clothes, they are work and casual clothing. I did buy a pair of Nick's "Carl Murawski Specials", but boots are different ;-) Still waiting on the Nick's...
I think the bigger problem here is that there is no pair of Filson jeans that come even close to 150 bucks these days, they frikkin START at like 200 hey. So yeah, definitely for the passionate Filson fan rather than the highest quality denim chaser.
Haha you're same as me. I have their twill duffle bag on my cart but haven't gotten around to pulling the trigger. I just can't justify the 395 price tag.
Totally! I kept chickening out!
I love the look and durability of the heritage clothing but I don't feel the need to fit into a box. My Tin cloth cruiser looks great with an Under Armour running hoody underneath.
F'em
Imogene + Willie makes good jeans, and some other clothing.
Filson was a company I bought from 20 years ago before the Fossil Hucksters bought it and made it for tech hipsters who pay premium prices for “imported” goods. Tellason made the original Filson Jeans in 2009ish or 2010. Those were from Cone USA Denim (rip). Get some Tellason Ankara in your waist size-free hems. Never look back.
Sadly you’re correct. Brentwood associates and Bedrock Manufacturing Co have made a bloody mess of Filson. I appreciate the fact that they keep the core products unchanged and made in the US, but $135 for an imported short is insane.
@@CarlMurawski I love your channel Carl and your intelligence. I have a mackinaw from 1999 and a packer coat from the 70s. I’ll leave it at that. The obvious capitalization off branding over quality is atrocious. Ll bean sells the same imported shirts half off. Wish Bean made shirts here still. Honestly my entire wardrobe now is Tellason. Two guys who treat customers right and have always done it the right way. Thanks again Carl .
I’m an LL Bean guy. Best value in my opinion. You said it perfectly when you said these jeans are for Filson fans.
Yes, absolutely! LL Bean flannels are some of my favorite. We also have their flannel sheets for the kids and they love them.
Not for me I buy for quality and USA made, if I can get better cheaper there is no point. I have 2 pairs of origin on order just waiting on them it's been about 5 weeks so far.
Awesome video! I ordered a custom pair of Northern Trading Co boots 5 months ago and can’t even get a response from the company. I know they are real or you wouldn’t have done a video but this is very frustrating to spend $400 on something and can’t even get an update.
Damn. I’ve heard a lot of shady stuff about them lately and it’s really bothering me. They were amazing to me, but they also knew I was making a video. I’ve heard a lot about delays and bad customer service which makes me really uneasy.
They did a terrific job, but I’m really concerned about the feedback I’m hearing. Maybe I can reach out on your behalf?
@@CarlMurawski if you’re able to get in touch with them that would be amazing as I’ve had next to no luck, regardless still love your content.
Yeah my jeans came in a black back lol and cost $200
Ruggedly handsome should be your channel's name, great video Carl
That’s one thing I hate when people wear pre-faded jeans, the fades don’t line up with the person wearing them, honey Combes on the calf or ankle 🙄
I have been wearing selvedge denim for over 25 years and own about 75 pairs. Worked in the denim/garment industry for over 20 years (No I do not own any Filsons). However, I have been at the stores in Portland and Seattle and personally inspected their jeans and quickly came to the conclusion that there are nothing special. No all selvedge are made the same. It all starts with a quality organic cotton and natural organic indigo. Those two pair with great patternmaking and precision stitching and your are for a treat! I do enjoy my Filson hats!
I purchased a pair of Filson double layer duck work pants. Paid $180. They are good pants but not any better than Carhartt or Duluth. I wouldn’t purchase again.
Excellent assessment, thank you!
Sorta on topic...
I've wanted Filson Tin Pants for a while now, but have held off because you're not supposed to wash them.
The wobbly bits have a habit of sweating up a storm during periods of exertion. This, coupled with the occasional expulsion of vapors, or God forbid a shart... have led me to the conclusion that they're not for me.
Are they intended to be worn until they take on a life of their own?
Don't have them myself but know people who do, you can't wash them but they will give themselves a spray down with the power washer when they're cleaning the house
What's your end goal for them? Really they're a wet winter work pant, made for long john weather and snow, not really a fashion piece. They make tin cloth chaps, and I've been seriously considering getting a pair for upland bird hunting.
I used to wear the double tin pants working as a logger, I had a bottle of colloidal silver I spritzed the crotch with once a week and would spray them with the hose occasionally, they are great for specific types of work or hunting but not for "casual" wear.
Just powerwash them as needed
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Cutting & hauling standing dead timber in inclement weather. Processing said timber into firewood.
I was a U.S.F.S. sawyer for years.
I've gotten by for a long time using heavy duck pants (Nomex in the Forest Service) with Patagonia longs under & North Face Gore-Tex over.
I don't rock much in the way of fashion! Ha!
The Tin Pants intrigue me. The ideas posted here have inspired me to give them a try.
I appreciate your response.
Thanks!
Sounds like someone is upset they missed out on the selvedge.
I am!!!
Dearborn and Roundhouse are reputable companies that have 100 percent USA jeans at reasonable prices. They vary from around forty to eighty bucks depending on what style you choose. I can see myself paying forty for work jeans made in the USA. Filson has good stuff but 165 for denim woven in Viet Nam is a no go. I'd rather find a small producer from my local area or buy Japanese jeans if I'm going above fifty bucks looking to make a fashion statement. Heck 10 to 15 dollar Costco Jeans are all I need for something to play in the mud.
Thank you for the additional recommendations!
Coming from someone who owns several products from them, it's a bit funky when trying to navigate the company.
On one hand, they offer tough as nails products like the Mackinaw Cruiser or the Tin Cloth products. Made in the US charging a premium price...with imported materials with little way of finding out where it's from. Stuff that people could take pride in owning and using.
In the very same vein, they have the lines that takes full advantage of the name offering a mediocre product, made overseas. Clearly made to dupe people unaware of the lines reputation or their only concern is for the name.
Yeah, it’s too bad. This tends to happen with brands that have positive name recognition. Think of North Face. Hopefully they’ll always keep those cornerstone products which have historically been great.
Ahh overpriced, best part of these is the Zipper which should’ve been Buttons and the Pocket Bags. Good review as always, I certainly won’t buy these I think for the price a Pair Of Jcrew Selvedge is a Better option at this price point
I do agree that Filson is confuse about this jeans as they are putting it in a category. Seems like Filson is experimenting with denim and their inexperienced is showing. Let's not overthink it. FIlson is an outdoor / traveler brand. If the products they make can be used for work, that is good.
Whoever the designer and technical designer for this jeans needs to be check and train. Why make a 33" and 34" inseam. That is absolutely stupid. Filson should have make it 34" inseam for small size and 36" or 28" for larger sizes. Also, for the whiskers, that is on the designer fault beacause they tell the factory where to put the whiskers and distress.
Selvedge jeans is overrated as putting of the self edge is to make sure the yarns do not unravel on the sides. Alsip, it is not a mark of high quality jeans. It just so happens that looms and machines have shorter width for making selvedge jeans. The mark of high quality denim are the dyes and the cotton.
Another great video
Thank you my friend!
The pocket bags alone are worth it IMO 😁 seriously though, all work pants should have heavier pocket bags
I agree totally
Good review
Carl, end the madness and try "Levi's Men's 550 Relaxed Fit Jeans" in "Black Waterless" on Amazon. They are 40 bucks. I was a denim head for years, Iron Heart, LVC, all the great Japanese brands, and these are the best I have worn in terms of comfort, durability, and bang for buck.
I certainly will try them! Sounds awesome
Yep, my preference is the 501, $39.00 they last about a year before I blow out the crotch ( I have no idea how this happens)
@@Rangerglx Big balls can create pressure points. I have been there.
@@RobertLinthicum Well......I didn't want to say anything;)
What kind of jacket are you wearing I like it.? Lol totally out of topic
Thanks man! That's an old Carhartt J97 Detroit Jacket.
Review the hara jeans please
If they suck, it would be better wearing them without underweear.
Never had a Filson. Never will. Just another overseas company trying to milk every cent out of their customers and product. Try brave star. Us made in Cali. Half the price.
Sir, thank you. You are 1000% correct. 🍻
I’m considering becoming Filson-free. I have a waxed jacket and a mackinaw wool hat and honestly I’m not really impressed at this point.
A bunch of their crap is not great and they’re becoming another company that MEANT something but that doesn’t MEAN anything.
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American Eagle flex jeans are like $35 I’ll keep em 😂
Levi’s work fine for me.
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Me and Jeans. Head to thrift store, find a pair of 501’s or 505’s that are nicely broken in with honeycombs and creases, pay my $9.50 and let sucker hipsters fork over $100’s for selvedge denim.
Origin for the win!
Filson overpricing as always. People, just buy Bravestar or Orgin jeans.
But my Levi fit so gooood lol
And they’re an awesome Jean!
My biggest gripe with filson, is the fact that they are slowly becoming an outsourcing company. They idolize themselves for being American. But everything they’ve released in the past year is made in Bangladesh or Sri Lanka, other than a pair of 250$+ knitted mittens ?!? But seriously, they are still asking American made prices for products made in Bangladesh by child slaves. Bangladesh is rated the absolute worst country in the world in terms of clothing producers. Items are so cheap there that even China outsources to Bangladesh to open sweatshops and slave labor.
You are out of your mind if you pay over 35 or 40 dollars for any pair of jeans.
Man, I hear that!
You’re missing out on quality then my man, not these of course but i mean the denim that’s made the same when your grandfather was wearing them.
@@charlesbronson240 My grandfather has been dead for over 50 years and no jeans made today are worth what you think nor of the quality you think. They are work wear, not a uniform for hipster dufuses.
@@charlesbarry7479 i can see where you are coming from, but if you put my bravestar jeans next to my wrangler work jeans, anyone could see the difference in quality. Also, hipsters have nothing to do with it, i buy nice jeans because I appreciate the quality and the fact that they’re made in the USA 100%
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Filson is good for other garment. Not jeans.
Don't waste your money on Filson. The quality is low and the price is high.
They have driven the Filson name into the ground.
Should get a refund if you aren’t going to be wearing them😆
Damn. Good point!!!
Denim made in Viet Nam must be finest kind. Right there I can't buy them.
Just buy Levi’s and save $175
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Man I don't wanna say it but those jeans are straight up hipster crap
Their market is for those suv driving, manscaped beard wearing, wannabes here in Squamish BC
First, I'm a requester!
Filson makes clothing now for millennial trash that likes to pretend they’re doing work 😂
Even circa 2000, Filson was making hardcore stuff. Now they have about 6 products they haven’t ruined. Give them a minute and they’ll get to them too.
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Filson, one of the most overrated overpriced brand’s on the market.
Some stuff is great, some is meh....their wool stuff is bomb!
Definitely true!
For these jeans, I would absolutely agree. For Mackinaw wool items, Tin Cloth, waxed cotton stuff, and many of their bags, the upcharge is worthwhile.
@@RobertLinthicum I have a bird hunter coat that is 25 years old, its impervious to wear.
@@Rangerglx Awesome. I am old, have been loyal to Filson forever, and am happy to have those items, every fall and winter. That said, I loved Brooks Bros until they started (and continued) to suck. Hope Filson isn't headed down that road.