Joanie, I must say that I have learned a lot about food photography by watching your videos. Heartfelt thanks to you for sharing such excellent ideas with us.
You are an amazing teacher, thank you so much for your videos ! The way you teach is flawless, it is so rare to find teacher like you that has such a deep understanding and foundation for every thing you teach
Joanie, i´ve had lots of problem on doing airy photographies, since i am a big fan of the dark ones, but your video helped me a lot! tks so much! love your work!! wish you the best!
You can also check for specific clipping by holding alt while clicking on a slider like exposure, highlights, shadows or blacks. I also like to check the sharpening. I use the masking feature. You can do the same thing. Hold alt while adjusting the masking slider to see what is being masked.
Love your videos and FB group. I have started to look forward to Thursday for new videos. I'm still new but can I suggest maybe doing a video on "histograms" because I'm not sure exactly what I should be looking for. Thanks so much! Love your work.
Super helpful Joanie!! And coincidentally I've been breaking my head lately trying to figure out how to get that beautiful "light and airy" look in lightroom so I was super happy when I saw you uploaded this video!!! Keep 'em coming pleaseeee. Editing in lightroom is the thing that I am struggling the most with. Thanks again.
Hey great videos!! You should do a pizza episode.. all tip and tricks and how to make it look great (especially with chesse) ... there is no good videos in RUclips about it.. Burgers too 😃
hey, your videos are really grt and amazingly informative. one suggestion though... it will be nice if you could also give us a setup image(BTS kind of thing) for the shots you are working on. it will really help the newbies like me to understand the lighting as well..
Hey, I'm a huge fan of your pages, both RUclips and Instagram. You truly are an inspiration. :) Is there anyway to edit this kind of picture in Snapseed as well?
Great video as usual. Thank you. Two things though.... Your starting image seemed to be about 1/2 stop too dark; wouldn't it be better to adjust your camera to expose to the right (of the histogram) and reduce the need for that much post production later? Also, I suggest enabling the camera profile first and then start the correction process. That way, you don't get any surprise. Keep on making your videos; I was a school photographer for 10 years and I love a great smile. :-)
I think Joanie purposely did that to make sure she maintained information in the highlights for more options in post later on. Easier to recover shadows than it is highlights :D
the crop killed me :)). the whole time I kept looking at the left hand side and the weirdly cropped chopsticks, one seems to be in the frame, one slightly cut off. also, the right side of the bottom stick just touching the edge of the table... otherwise, lovely video and useful stuff!
Hi, Long time listener..first time caller, This seems to be a contentious question. When you lifted the black point of the tone curve, you referred to it as crushing. Many photographers argue this point. The common belief is, lift the black point is fading the blacks. Pushing the black to the right along the tone curve so many of the deeper shadows will now appear as black (increasing overall black in the image) is referred to as crushing. The names kinda follow suit. Lifting is adding more white to the blacks making them grey-hence fading. Pushing the curve to the right compacts the horizontal size of the curve making shadows extremely dark..hence crushing. What's your stance on this? What is fading? what is crushing?
Hi Joanie! Thank you so much for this brilliant tutorial. I´ll try to get the bright and airy look on my pictures but when it comes to editing I reconized a blue - grey shade on my pictures. When I bring up the Temperature I lose the look. Is it a good idea to bring down the luminance and saturation in blue? Thanks and love from Germany! :-)
I don't understand how you know what part of the Tone Curve manages the specific tone you want to change. BTW, I am super new to photography and Lightroom but I absolutely love your videos and the way you explain things.
I don’t know if it qualifies as crushing the blacks if you’re bringing the values up. Crushing the blacks, as I understand it, is setting the black point lower not higher.
Yup, totally right Benjamin. It seems to be more of a common mistake amongst photographers for some reason. I come from a video background and crushing the blacks is always taking the dark areas darker, to a point where you lose details in the darkest areas as they're pitch black. It's the opposite of "blowing out the whites." Glad someone pointed it out, bugged me in one of the other videos, so it pinged in my ears again in this video! Technically speaking, the blacks were lifted at that point in this tutorial :)
photofocus.com/2017/09/26/the-term-crushed-blacks-has-got-people-confused/ color-artist.blogspot.com/2015/12/crushing-blacks-resolve-log-menu.html www.rocketstock.com/blog/crush-the-blacks-in-color-grading/ forums.creativecow.net/docs/forums/post.php?forumid=8&postid=936265&univpostid=936265&pview=t erickimphotography.com/blog/2017/06/07/crush-the-blacks/ Of course, there are photography articles that suggest that crushing the blacks is lifting them, but I come from a video background, and in video colour grading, it's always been making dark areas darker
Hey :) thank you so much for all your videos. I've become so much better through your videos. I was wondering, however, is there only "light and airy" and "dark and moody" in food fotography? What about these bakery and cake photographs for example, or kind of farmhouse style, or candy style ? :)
Joanie, why don't you using brush to select and match temperature of shadow side of cloth(it's warmer) with all light part of image? Maybe it'll make photo more expensive looking, am I right? Just want to know your opinion ^_^
Omg do you know how to do it in davinci resolve or Premiere pro? Like videos from lavendaire for example 😍 that would be so awesome, I haven't seen any videos yet
This is so helpful Joanie - thank you! I’ve been editing as if all my pics were dark photography format. I’ve noticed that I seem to get into trouble with the colors yellow and brown - especially when using an oak colored backdrop. I can’t seem to bring up the yellow color, for example in a flower, without bringing out the yellow in the wood, which I don’t want to do. It seems like yellow may be tricky to photograph. And with Browns, when I change orange and yellow colors, of course this affects my entire photo too! I suppose I need to shoot better quality pics so I don’t need to edit - oh how nice would that be? Thank you for making this video for us Joanie!!! 😊🤗
Thanks for the great videos, I've learned a lot. I might be on crack here but I think "crushing the blacks" refers to exactly the opposite of what you're doing, at least in film color grading. If I'm off base here I apologize in advance. Anyway great detailed tutorials.
Hi there, question on LR, at your TEMP you see the Kelvin value, I only get a + or - value? Is that a setting? Thanks for the great stuff! I don't shoot food, but board gaming content, but love the info you are sharing!
I photograph cakes mostly. I love the idea of color correcting and playing with the luminance etc of the image, but how do you do that and still keep the image "Real"? By that I mean, if someone is looking at the cake in real life and then on my screen, wouldn't it look different? What if the client posts a picture of the cake and it's not color corrected or edited, and people think... oh that person edits all their photos they aren't real? Should I focus on just editing the backgrounds and not so much the actual cake itself? I hope that makes sense.
I definitely think editing of the subject is a good thing and can make something look more real to life...but, some of that is a matter of taste and experience. Try it out, experiment and find what feels like an honest representation of the cakes...perhaps amplified, but wouldn't cause someone to be disappointed if they actually ordered the cake. I think it's all about balance and doing what feels right to you.
Thanks for the video. It helps a lot, but there are still a few things I don't get - e.g what's the purpose of having shadows +17 in the upper part and shadows -15 under the tone curve? Don't they just cancel one another out? Or are they 2 completely different things? Also, I cannot just move one end of the tone curve up along the axis like you do in 4:20. When I try to do that, the end of the curve doesn't move, but instead the curve distorts.
Yep! You're right, they're not the same. The Highlights and Shadows sliders in the Basic panel build a mask to limit the effect of the slider to part of the tonal range. This means that brightening the shadows has the greatest effect on the darkest shadows, tapering off to a minimal effect on the highlights and vice versa. The tone curve, on the other hand, doesn’t build a mask. There’s always a trade-off. If you increase the shadows to see more detail, you also brighten the highlights. If you then pull the the highlights back down, you flatten the contrast in the midtones. This doesn’t mean it’s a bad tool to use, but it’s different. And for the tone curve issue at 4:20, not sure why it won't let you do that :( Perhaps post an inquiry to the Facebook group and see if there's experience with issues with it there? facebook.com/groups/thebiteshot
Aaah, OK, I'm stupid. I need to first click on that little square that says "click to edit point curve" when you hover over it. You are actually doing it in your video as well but I hadn't noticed it before.
Not to be dramatic but this video just changed my life 😅
So glad, Emily!!! I'm known to be dramatic on occasion myself
Yes!!! 😭💗👌
:p
Mine too!
It just changed mine too!
Joanie, I must say that I have learned a lot about food photography by watching your videos. Heartfelt thanks to you for sharing such excellent ideas with us.
you bring exposure to our raw lives. Bless you.
You are an amazing teacher, thank you so much for your videos ! The way you teach is flawless, it is so rare to find teacher like you that has such a deep understanding and foundation for every thing you teach
You are a superb teacher. Having fun translating your Lightroom manipulations to Capture one. If you do write a book it is a guaranteed sale!
OMG you are BRILLIANT!!! I've never thought to change the background to white before!!! THANK YOU!!!
would love to see a same picture doing a dark and moody edit and see difference. thanks for your endless amazing information x
OMG!!! Blown away by that "LR white background" tip!!!
Woot woot!
@@TheBiteShot Seriously though... so simple but life changing! Thanks you!
Seriously the BEST Lightroom editing video for this style. Thanks sooooo much!
I can't stop watching your videos...so much great stuff! Thank you for posting such great content.
Ahhh I love your editing (and composition) videos please do more of these! I always have trouble with editing 😂😭
Joanie, i´ve had lots of problem on doing airy photographies, since i am a big fan of the dark ones, but your video helped me a lot! tks so much! love your work!! wish you the best!
You can also check for specific clipping by holding alt while clicking on a slider like exposure, highlights, shadows or blacks.
I also like to check the sharpening. I use the masking feature. You can do the same thing. Hold alt while adjusting the masking slider to see what is being masked.
wow, good stuff, thx man)
💯💯💯💯💯 THANK YOU Joanie!
Why are you apologizing for doing your job YOUR way? FANTASTIC video. You're teaching the way it's to be done
Im trying to learn photography and your videos are great! My little boy also likes your music 😊 he dances to it everytime I watch your videos
As always, you saved me. Thank you, Joanie
Love your videos and FB group. I have started to look forward to Thursday for new videos. I'm still new but can I suggest maybe doing a video on "histograms" because I'm not sure exactly what I should be looking for.
Thanks so much! Love your work.
thank you so much for all the videos you make!!! i am improving because of you!!!!
Super helpful Joanie!! And coincidentally I've been breaking my head lately trying to figure out how to get that beautiful "light and airy" look in lightroom so I was super happy when I saw you uploaded this video!!! Keep 'em coming pleaseeee. Editing in lightroom is the thing that I am struggling the most with. Thanks again.
This is definitely a teaching tool in how to use light room. Peace, Flood!
Mind blown! I've been using lightroom for a while, but obviously not well. Thanks!
Your photos look great even without editing 😍😱
10 years I've been using LR and I never thought to change the background color. Savvy
Your videos are life changing, love them
Tea in hand, ready to watch! Thanks for the video :)
Thank you Professor 😎🤓
Excellent tutorial. :)
It would be great if you posted the original raw file for download so we could play along at home with the actual image you're using.
Hey great videos!! You should do a pizza episode.. all tip and tricks and how to make it look great (especially with chesse) ... there is no good videos in RUclips about it.. Burgers too 😃
Was waiting for this for a long time!
Great video, with awesome information and insights. Love it. Thanks, Joanie!
I just adore your intro music.
and the video is LIT obviously. I jump here and there on lightroom also :D
I LOVE you videos! Thank you for adding value to my life.
i really suck at food photography!
but everything here looks so amazing
maybe i should try again using your tips
This is an amazing tutorial. Thank you very much!
This was an amazing helpful video! Great quality and informative content. Cant wait for more 😁Im happy I subscribed !!
More editing videos like this one please. For example how to edit ice cream, cakes etc.
Not much to say except 'yer a wee smasher' (Scotland Speak) learned a lot great channel
Jim
I’ve got roots in Edinburgh, so I’ll take it! 🙌
Great video! Your so knowledgeable about your craft and I admire that! Please consider selling some presets soon!
Very helpful! Thanks Joanie!
many thankss!
Great video yet again...!!!!
hey, your videos are really grt and amazingly informative. one suggestion though... it will be nice if you could also give us a setup image(BTS kind of thing) for the shots you are working on. it will really help the newbies like me to understand the lighting as well..
Thanks!!! you are so talented!!!
Hey, I'm a huge fan of your pages, both RUclips and Instagram. You truly are an inspiration. :)
Is there anyway to edit this kind of picture in Snapseed as well?
Super helpful! Thank you so much ❤️
Great video as usual. Thank you. Two things though.... Your starting image seemed to be about 1/2 stop too dark; wouldn't it be better to adjust your camera to expose to the right (of the histogram) and reduce the need for that much post production later? Also, I suggest enabling the camera profile first and then start the correction process. That way, you don't get any surprise. Keep on making your videos; I was a school photographer for 10 years and I love a great smile. :-)
I think Joanie purposely did that to make sure she maintained information in the highlights for more options in post later on. Easier to recover shadows than it is highlights :D
the crop killed me :)). the whole time I kept looking at the left hand side and the weirdly cropped chopsticks, one seems to be in the frame, one slightly cut off. also, the right side of the bottom stick just touching the edge of the table... otherwise, lovely video and useful stuff!
That got me too
Hi, Long time listener..first time caller,
This seems to be a contentious question.
When you lifted the black point of the tone curve, you referred to it as crushing. Many photographers argue this point. The common belief is, lift the black point is fading the blacks. Pushing the black to the right along the tone curve so many of the deeper shadows will now appear as black (increasing overall black in the image) is referred to as crushing. The names kinda follow suit. Lifting is adding more white to the blacks making them grey-hence fading. Pushing the curve to the right compacts the horizontal size of the curve making shadows extremely dark..hence crushing.
What's your stance on this? What is fading? what is crushing?
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Hi Joanie! Thank you so much for this brilliant tutorial. I´ll try to get the bright and airy look on my pictures but when it comes to editing I reconized a blue - grey shade on my pictures. When I bring up the Temperature I lose the look. Is it a good idea to bring down the luminance and saturation in blue? Thanks and love from Germany! :-)
This is so helpful thank you!
One question... Why do you adjust the tone curve manually and then use the sliders? Is this different to just using the point curve?
I don't understand how you know what part of the Tone Curve manages the specific tone you want to change. BTW, I am super new to photography and Lightroom but I absolutely love your videos and the way you explain things.
I'll definitely do an in-depth tone curve video at some point.
Great video, thank you.
thx a lot
nice video as always 😍😍😍😍
What is the lighting setup for your initial photography shot? Thanks
I must have a newer version of Light Room. I don't have that menu at the top.
I don’t know if it qualifies as crushing the blacks if you’re bringing the values up. Crushing the blacks, as I understand it, is setting the black point lower not higher.
ah, gotcha...folks who I have learned from always termed it as crushing the blacks, but you could totally be right. I'll have to check on terminology.
Yup, totally right Benjamin. It seems to be more of a common mistake amongst photographers for some reason. I come from a video background and crushing the blacks is always taking the dark areas darker, to a point where you lose details in the darkest areas as they're pitch black. It's the opposite of "blowing out the whites."
Glad someone pointed it out, bugged me in one of the other videos, so it pinged in my ears again in this video! Technically speaking, the blacks were lifted at that point in this tutorial :)
The point is lower means darker and higher means lighter)
whatever for blacks or whites
so crushing the blacks means that blacks going higher(lighter)
photofocus.com/2017/09/26/the-term-crushed-blacks-has-got-people-confused/
color-artist.blogspot.com/2015/12/crushing-blacks-resolve-log-menu.html
www.rocketstock.com/blog/crush-the-blacks-in-color-grading/
forums.creativecow.net/docs/forums/post.php?forumid=8&postid=936265&univpostid=936265&pview=t
erickimphotography.com/blog/2017/06/07/crush-the-blacks/
Of course, there are photography articles that suggest that crushing the blacks is lifting them, but I come from a video background, and in video colour grading, it's always been making dark areas darker
Hey :) thank you so much for all your videos. I've become so much better through your videos.
I was wondering, however, is there only "light and airy" and "dark and moody" in food fotography? What about these bakery and cake photographs for example, or kind of farmhouse style, or candy style ? :)
Joanie, why don't you using brush to select and match temperature of shadow side of cloth(it's warmer) with all light part of image? Maybe it'll make photo more expensive looking, am I right? Just want to know your opinion ^_^
Omg do you know how to do it in davinci resolve or Premiere pro? Like videos from lavendaire for example 😍 that would be so awesome, I haven't seen any videos yet
But I don't have the "otto" option?? Only kidding, great video! Sooo helpful!
This is so helpful Joanie - thank you! I’ve been editing as if all my pics were dark photography format. I’ve noticed that I seem to get into trouble with the colors yellow and brown - especially when using an oak colored backdrop. I can’t seem to bring up the yellow color, for example in a flower, without bringing out the yellow in the wood, which I don’t want to do. It seems like yellow may be tricky to photograph. And with Browns, when I change orange and yellow colors, of course this affects my entire photo too! I suppose I need to shoot better quality pics so I don’t need to edit - oh how nice would that be? Thank you for making this video for us Joanie!!! 😊🤗
Amazing
I can't access to the list of tools you use
Thanks for the great videos, I've learned a lot. I might be on crack here but I think "crushing the blacks" refers to exactly the opposite of what you're doing, at least in film color grading. If I'm off base here I apologize in advance. Anyway great detailed tutorials.
You are correct. The person who I learned from taught me the wrong terminology. The proper term is “lifting or fading” the blacks.
What about the "texture" settings, does we need it?
why does the lightroom on my macbook look completely different? I don't have a previous and reset button..
I don't have the light bar in my mobile Lightroom!
Anyone using the new Lightroom CC and knows where to find "Lights" and "Darks"?! Would be forever grateful 🙏
Hi Nicole. That functionality is only available in the desktop Lightroom Classic CC version.
This has been so ridiculously helpful! I’ve watched it a few times and have even taken notes. Thank you!!!
Hi am new to light room
Light room does not have all the lens profiles for Nikon Lenses.
Hi i find it hard to get the histogram
you are just simply awesome! *subscribe
Love this video. Are you considering to make video on histogram ?
what camera did you use to make this video? I am planning to buy video cam for my video making? thanks.
I use the Canon 5D Mark IV - all my gear is listed at joaniesimon.com/tools-i-use
Hello! Can you please make a video with this same edits but for LIGHTROOM MOBILE?
Hi there, question on LR, at your TEMP you see the Kelvin value, I only get a + or - value? Is that a setting? Thanks for the great stuff! I don't shoot food, but board gaming content, but love the info you are sharing!
Hi! Are you shooting RAW? I believe JPG you won’t see the Kelvin values
@@TheBiteShot ah that might be it, these photos are in jpeg indeed! Thx for clearing that up :)
I photograph cakes mostly. I love the idea of color correcting and playing with the luminance etc of the image, but how do you do that and still keep the image "Real"? By that I mean, if someone is looking at the cake in real life and then on my screen, wouldn't it look different? What if the client posts a picture of the cake and it's not color corrected or edited, and people think... oh that person edits all their photos they aren't real? Should I focus on just editing the backgrounds and not so much the actual cake itself? I hope that makes sense.
I definitely think editing of the subject is a good thing and can make something look more real to life...but, some of that is a matter of taste and experience. Try it out, experiment and find what feels like an honest representation of the cakes...perhaps amplified, but wouldn't cause someone to be disappointed if they actually ordered the cake. I think it's all about balance and doing what feels right to you.
Thanks for the video. It helps a lot, but there are still a few things I don't get - e.g what's the purpose of having shadows +17 in the upper part and shadows -15 under the tone curve? Don't they just cancel one another out? Or are they 2 completely different things?
Also, I cannot just move one end of the tone curve up along the axis like you do in 4:20. When I try to do that, the end of the curve doesn't move, but instead the curve distorts.
Yep! You're right, they're not the same. The Highlights and Shadows sliders in the Basic panel build a mask to limit the effect of the slider to part of the tonal range. This means that brightening the shadows has the greatest effect on the darkest shadows, tapering off to a minimal effect on the highlights and vice versa.
The tone curve, on the other hand, doesn’t build a mask. There’s always a trade-off. If you increase the shadows to see more detail, you also brighten the highlights. If you then pull the the highlights back down, you flatten the contrast in the midtones. This doesn’t mean it’s a bad tool to use, but it’s different.
And for the tone curve issue at 4:20, not sure why it won't let you do that :( Perhaps post an inquiry to the Facebook group and see if there's experience with issues with it there? facebook.com/groups/thebiteshot
Thanks.
Aaah, OK, I'm stupid. I need to first click on that little square that says "click to edit point curve" when you hover over it. You are actually doing it in your video as well but I hadn't noticed it before.
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One of the best tools I've found in Lr is the TAT (target adjustment tool). I noticed that you didn't use it? Are you familiar with its power?
Do you offer presets?
Hi! I don't currently.
You are an actual goddess 🙏🏼🙏🏼
"tomato stills"
Tô te seguindo, quero um presset seu .
Why do you have to be ridiculous in every beginning of each video?