to be honest after listening to it more and more, i love the album it think it is a phenomenal response, and a parody of Sargent Pepper which is so like them lol. its music that sounds out of this world, and yet notes of familiarity persist on for example 2000 man and the lantern. Its the definitive beginning point of the rolling stones defining their sound from 1968 onward, its jam based, percussion heavy and unmistakably groovy, staple traits found on exile and beggars banquet, it all really starts here, and that's kind of how i appreciate it, but i also find that its a good record, the songs are interesting, they don't really lose momentum for me, and its my favorite psychedelic record, and to be honest, is kind of a staple record for people getting into psychedelia
A little background. This album was recorded over a span of months. The recording process was broken up by Keith and Mick's arrest and subsequent court case and jail time. Their manager and producer, Andrew Loog Oldham basically went MIA, which in turn led to his dismissal/abandonment. On top of that, Brian Jones was also arrested for drug possession and was also spending some time under psychiatric care. The only members who had their shit together was Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman but without the main songwriters, sessions were not so productive. On Wyman's "In Another Land" the reason for the tremolo vocals was more to do with his lack of comfortableness singing but we do get Steve Marriott and Ronnie Lane from the Small Faces on backing vocals and acoustic guitars. The person snoring is in fact Wyman and NOT Charlie Watts. In a nutshell its amazing that the Stones managed to record an album at all with all the distractions and lack of continuity in the sessions but with tracks like "Citadel", "2000 Man", "2000 Light Years From Home" and "She's A Rainbow" it makes for a good album from 1967, just not a good Stones album.
Love your take on SMR, I'm 72 going on 45 yo. Was in high school when Sgt Pepper hit the streets. The 60s "were" a magical time. You bought an album, you embraced the cover because it was worth looking at, and you fell in love with the twists and turns of sound, each new album delivered. CS & N - Sweet Judy Blue Eyes, the long version, was a piece of art, a real head turner, just to mention something other than the Beatles or Stones. As for your take on SMR and Sgt Pepper... you are 100 % correct. I love what you wrote, I loved your delivery. Laid out like a true NY lawyer. Fantastic job. I did like both albums and bought both the first day of release. My original copy of SMR has the original 3D PICTURE. Sgt P music delivered audio. You could wrap your arms around. SMR, was more contrived due to a lack of ideas and song writing. Js
Fantastic analysis! I think you covered all of the strengths and weaknesses. It's a worthy entry in the psychedelic genre. Simply because the Stones are more associated with their hard blues rock sound that was defined on their next four albums, Their Satanic Majesties Request gets lost in the shuffle, unfortunately. It's no Sgt. Pepper, but it's on the same level as early Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa. My feeling is that if the long jam session that ended side 1 was replaced with "We Love You" and possibly "Dandelion", the album would seem much more focused. I too think the psychedelic masterpiece "2000 Light Years From Home" should have ended the album. "On With The Show" would make more sense closing side 1 because it gives off the feeling that there's more to come. This album is far from perfect, but it's a major cult favorite of mine and in retrospect, was the only logical step following Between The Buttons's haziness. It needed to be made because it eventually influenced them to get back to their classic raw roots for Beggars Banquet. All and all, a neat little detour in their catalogue.
@@petervanderleest2983yes I agree with u Pepper is crap and it is very very overrated the Beatles are the most overrated band ever stones are way way better 2000 light years from home the lantern she’s a rainbow
ABSOLUTELY!!! Edit "Sing This Alltogether (See What happens)" jam and use the slowed down trippy finale, and add those 2 singles and this album really comes together. IF you want to substitute Gomper (or edit out the 'trippy percussive jam' after the vocal lines) for Child Of The Moon, then WOW!!!!
@@jnagarya519 As they say, opinions are like A**holes, everyone has one, some stink more than others. People are just saying that the album song selection could have been put together better. It was not, because after delays the Stones wanted to get back to their Rock and Roll and Blues roots. The Stones were never trying to be peace and love/flower power the songs on that album, for the most part, contained dark overtones. As a representation of that era, She's A Rainbow" is a Classic song, and has renewed life today.
Hey TJR very good analysis and did you know that John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin did the string Arrangement and conducted it.?Also members from the small Faces Steve Marriott and Ronnie Lane are on it as well.Nicky Hopkins is of coarse on it.And the legendary producer,engineer Eddie Kramer is on it too.
Hi TJR, the album always struck me as a bit of a rush job to get some product out for the Christmas market. With the court case earlier that year they may not have had the time to write better songs. there was a real possibility of Jagger and Richards doing jail time until the Times printed the famous breaking a butterfly upon a wheel story that changed public opinion in England. The Who even recorded two Stones tracks as a gesture of support . the promo video for we love you parodies this with Oscar Wilde references dandy clothes judicial wigs and clanking cell doors closing.regarding the track on with the show I'm not so sure it was a tribute to McCartney more likely i would say a nod to British music hall. A lot of UK bands such as the small faces did novelty numbers like this at the time. The Stones themselves did a similar number called something happened to me yesterday on their previous album between the buttons. Always enjoy your videos TJR thanks
Excellent review. Interesting points. I have to wonder what the record would sound like had Andrew Loog Oldham stayed on board & called the shots. Or better still, Jimmy Miller had been recruited for this one rather than the album that followed it. I wish they had included the single We Love You, I think it would have made TSMR that much stronger. The mono sounds better to my ears.
I enjoyed your review. I was a teen when this came out and I clearly remember my reaction when I first heard it. I was a big Beatles fan and I thought "oh good.. the Stones are going in a similar direction to the Beatles, only darker." I wasn't really concerned about them "copying" the Beatles, as some said at the time. TSMR made me a bigger Stones fan than I had been before. Yes, there are some weak tracks - but Citadel, 2000 Man, She's a Rainbow, and especially 2000 Light Years from Home make this an enjoyable album for me even 50 years later. In retrospect, not my favorite Stones album, but still fun to listen to occasionally.
Great review and your proposed restructuring of the album is really good. The whole album is not cohesive like Sgt. Pepper's. It's okay though because the high points are really great. Both the Beatles and the Stones only went though about a 12 to 18-month phase where they were "happy shiny people." Then they got bored of the whole thing and moved on. However, what a magical time to be a rich twenty-something rock star with the flower girls and the acid-dropping parties and the bold modern colours and the "sense of the future" that is and was 1967. It was a magical time and if you listen between the lines you can feel it. At the time a lot a people really thought that there would be flying cars and moon bases by the year 2000. Growing up as a kid in the sixties, it felt like the year 2000 was infinitely far away. If you want to get a sense of the futurism and the optimism of 1967, just look up "Expo67."
Another great video. I’ve read that Brian Jones hated this album as a further step away from their blues and R & B roots. Might explain why he was so absent and checked out during the Beggars Banquet album sessions. Also this album was recorded during a very turbulent time for the band amidst all the legal troubles of 1967. Makes me appreciate it a bit more.
It's so unfortunate that "We Love You" with its b-side "Dandelion" were reserved for release as a single. Can you imagine the longer jams being replaced by these two excellent tracks? It would have greatly improved the album. I love the record as it is, but the jams do slog it down some.
@manny4552 I don't know why YT won't allow me to directly reply to your post, but while Child of the Moon is a great song, it wasn't written until AFTER the release of Satanic so it couldn't have made the album.
I agree TJR, I do love the charm of this album. The music seems to be all over the place psychedelic, but I still dig MOST of it😆 It has a looseness that exudes 1967-8 pop era. Also I believe they were listening to alot of Zappa/Mothers at this time. Whaddya think? Good review, man.
Note: "She's A Rainbow" does not differ from the single version. Some CD versions were not properly track indexed. The slow droning sounds after Sing This All Together (See What Happens) was a small separate band that closed side 1 of the original vinyl. The "hawking" dialog after that was a small separate band that opened side 2 of the vinyl versions. Neither of these small tracks had titles or were listed on the cover or labels. The only option on CD would be to place this material in the negative space between the tracks, You would only hear them if you played the album straight through. Tom Petty did this on his Full Moon Fever CD (a spoken track that started with "Hello CD listeners", inserted between what was side 1 and 2 of the original vinyl)..
I agree with you when you said how people just saw it as a "rip off" of Sgt Pepper. I actually think there is a lot to be admired in this album, it being largely over looked as psychedelic nonsense. That being said in my opinion 2000 Man and She's a Rainbow are masterpieces.
Psychedelic genre would only be showcased in Sgt. Pepper with songs: Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, Within You Without You,, and the reprise Sgt.Pepper. Loves Forever Changes, and TSMR by the Stones.
Kudos to you for a very thorough and insightful review. I totally agree with you about the album but of course, i have some dissenting points: Can't say why I like IN ANOTHER LAND. Maybe it is the first Bill Wyman song I know of and I love the chorus which is all Mick Jagger. I have to disagree with you because I do like the "underwater" effect of the verse. I am a big fan of THE LANTERN, which is sadly overlooked among many Stones fans. ON WITH THE SHOW is very much out of place on this album and I tend to forget that it's even on the album, especially after 2000 Light Years. And like you, GOMPER and STSA (SEE WHAT HAPPENS) are a waste of vinyl. Have to admit though that STSASWH is a forerunner to Revolution 9. BUt my biggest disappointment? I wanted a Stones version of A DAY IN THE LIFE, but nothing comes close.
Ignorant people say that the Rolling Stones copied the Beatles. Did they want to copy their success? Yes. Of course. Who didn't? The Beatles were in stereo almost from the get go and their records were nothing if not precise. Martin demanded perfection. Clapton once said he admired their robot like precision. He found it intimidating. On the other hand the Stones records were in mono until relatively late in their career. They played very loose; giving a sense of risk, danger or a sense that they were out of control. But this great Band could ALSO keep it absolutely tight, as witnessed by MY two favorite Stones albums: "Aftermath" and "Buttons". This clock like precision, coming from the Stones makes me feel like the energy is building until I can't stand it anymore and I will explode! The stereo image is magnificent and the instrumentation is diverse and spot on! These two albums are pure Stones, and they FAR outdo ANY album the Beatles ever produced, except for MAYBE "Abbey Road". If you missed them, you haven't heard the Rolling Stones at their best; musically and philosophically. But DO NOT settle for the American version of either album. The English Versions have more cuts and different tracks and are the way the Stones wanted you to hear them. Add "Ride On Baby" and "Sittin' On A Fence" from "Flowers" and you have captured what I like to call the Baroque period of the Stones. Oh. I almost forgot! The mono singles version of "Mothers little Helper" from "Flowers" has MUCH more punch than the stereo album version because the bass somehow got lost in the mix. Also, "Out Of Time" from the same album is shorter by two minutes, but the mix is way better by comparison; sounding close and personal, instead of distant and far away. Nothing is perfect. Enjoy and Happy listening!
You had me ....until you proclaimed 'Between the Buttons' as a masterpiece. Born in the 50's I've listened to that album MANY times. I even listened to it after reading your post Mr Beam. I LOVE The Stones. But Between The Buttons is the most unsatisfying Stones release of all. All Beatles albums are better than that turkey. Aftermath - YES! Between The Buttons - NO WAY JOSE.
@@vdggmouse9512 Even jagger said when asked about Between the Buttons he said its not very good, i like some of the tracks on this album, the photo i think was taken on parliament Hill near Hampstead London.
Good concept on having the album have a different order, On With The Show finishing side one and 2000 Light Years From Home at the end with the reprise of Sing This All Together closing the album. It would have been better!
Billy er,I mean McCartney was hangin' around the Stone's Satanic sessions but I was never into his show tune music bullshit & Lennon wasn't either.Fot that matter Pepper was no rockn'roll record as it was all Faul's creation for joining that band.Like the Stones who should"ve included "Dandelion " & "We Love You" on Satanic Majesties Pepper should've had George's "It's All Too Much",Lennon's "Strawberry Fields" & even McFaul's "Penny Lane".That's my 2 cents.Btw Brian Jones played that wicked sounding mellotron on "2000 Light Years From Home".R.I.P..brother.
@@Driecnkyea your right pepper is overrated i mean it’s way overrated the Beatles are the most overrated band band ever and the Beatles are #1 it should be The Rolling Stones the song satisfaction was a big number 1 hit in 1965 it knocked the Beatles off the charts in 1965 it was a big # 1 hit all over the world sorry Beatle fans no song beats satisfaction
1) I had the original album with the holograph but it got ruined. I did buy the CD version but the holograph picture was 2D. I had to pay $50 for a Japanese import of the CD with the holograph picture because I like the hidden pictures of The Beatles on it. The 2D copy only shows 2 of The Beatles. 2)Thank goodness for Google! I checked it out and found out that Gomper is a British term for an imbecile.
'Between The Buttons' was better imo' but to me The Rolling Stones work better when doing straight rock as their next 5 albums would prove, where they had their own run of classic albums & finally out of The Beatles shadow, but John Lennon was right until 1968 whatever The Beatles did, the Stones did months later, The early albums, Rubber Soul>Aftermath Revolver>Between The Buttons & so on, they really come into their own with 'Beggar's Banquet;) thank you TJR another great video
I agree with most of your comments. The jam session on Sing all together didnt work and should have been shortened or scraped. Maybe replaced by Dandelion. The talking on Shes a Rainbow was a nothing burger not sure why you even mention it. Your criticism on 2000 man was not warranted and I commend them for using the odd time signatures. It worked for me. What all reviewers of the album miss is that in 1967 this album was condemned by the religous right for allegedly being Satantic. Record stores were being forced not to sell the album . I think this reaction scared the Stones as what happened is they pulled away from the album and did not support it and throughout the years panned it.
Interesting video- there have been a number of social media videos On this topic and it’s time to set story straight These are not opinions folks these are the facts *their satanic majesties request is in no way a a copy or even an attempt at following Sgt Peppers lonely hearts club band any who thinks Differently has no idea what their talking about. * Brian Jones was 100% behind putting together “their satanic majesties request’” he was the genius behind its creation, and furthermore he wanted to take the stones further into this musical direction. But y have to keep that mick Jagger and kieth Richards are and where and will always be talentless fuck ups. After Brian Jones left the stones The Rolling Stones ceased to exist. * Finally their satanic majesties request is the best album the stones ever did-it is a flawless masterpiece anyone who thinks differently has no idea what talking about! Back in 1967 when LP was released nobody went around with labels like psychedelic they just appreciated the music.
for the first time,the stones lost their pop sense and became followers instead of leaders yoko level bad! is this one i can't believe how visible lennon's face is in this picture about where wyman's left knee is
A fantastic album that proved the Stones could make one of the greatest psychedelic albums and then return to their basics with BB.
to be honest after listening to it more and more, i love the album it think it is a phenomenal response, and a parody of Sargent Pepper which is so like them lol. its music that sounds out of this world, and yet notes of familiarity persist on for example 2000 man and the lantern. Its the definitive beginning point of the rolling stones defining their sound from 1968 onward, its jam based, percussion heavy and unmistakably groovy, staple traits found on exile and beggars banquet, it all really starts here, and that's kind of how i appreciate it, but i also find that its a good record, the songs are interesting, they don't really lose momentum for me, and its my favorite psychedelic record, and to be honest, is kind of a staple record for people getting into psychedelia
A little background. This album was recorded over a span of months. The recording process was broken up by Keith and Mick's arrest and subsequent court case and jail time. Their manager and producer, Andrew Loog Oldham basically went MIA, which in turn led to his dismissal/abandonment. On top of that, Brian Jones was also arrested for drug possession and was also spending some time under psychiatric care.
The only members who had their shit together was Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman but without the main songwriters, sessions were not so productive. On Wyman's "In Another Land" the reason for the tremolo vocals was more to do with his lack of comfortableness singing but we do get Steve Marriott and Ronnie Lane from the Small Faces on backing vocals and acoustic guitars. The person snoring is in fact Wyman and NOT Charlie Watts.
In a nutshell its amazing that the Stones managed to record an album at all with all the distractions and lack of continuity in the sessions but with tracks like "Citadel", "2000 Man", "2000 Light Years From Home" and "She's A Rainbow" it makes for a good album from 1967, just not a good Stones album.
Thanks for the info...I had always read that it was Charlie Watts...but who knows?
True - it's amazing they produced the album at all.
Love your take on SMR, I'm 72 going on 45 yo. Was in high school when Sgt Pepper hit the streets. The 60s "were" a magical time. You bought an album, you embraced the cover because it was worth looking at, and you fell in love with the twists and turns of sound, each new album delivered.
CS & N - Sweet Judy Blue Eyes, the long version, was a piece of art, a real head turner, just to mention something other than the Beatles or Stones.
As for your take on SMR and Sgt Pepper... you are 100 % correct. I love what you wrote, I loved your delivery. Laid out like a true NY lawyer. Fantastic job.
I did like both albums and bought both the first day of release. My original copy of SMR has the original 3D PICTURE. Sgt P music delivered audio. You could wrap your arms around. SMR, was more contrived due to a lack of ideas and song writing. Js
Fantastic analysis! I think you covered all of the strengths and weaknesses. It's a worthy entry in the psychedelic genre. Simply because the Stones are more associated with their hard blues rock sound that was defined on their next four albums, Their Satanic Majesties Request gets lost in the shuffle, unfortunately. It's no Sgt. Pepper, but it's on the same level as early Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa. My feeling is that if the long jam session that ended side 1 was replaced with "We Love You" and possibly "Dandelion", the album would seem much more focused. I too think the psychedelic masterpiece "2000 Light Years From Home" should have ended the album. "On With The Show" would make more sense closing side 1 because it gives off the feeling that there's more to come. This album is far from perfect, but it's a major cult favorite of mine and in retrospect, was the only logical step following Between The Buttons's haziness. It needed to be made because it eventually influenced them to get back to their classic raw roots for Beggars Banquet. All and all, a neat little detour in their catalogue.
It's a great album. She's A Rainbow,2000 Light Years From Home are 2 of their most unique and best ensemble performances.
Pepper is crap, highly overrated! 2000 Light Years however is better than all Pink Floyd ever made...
@@petervanderleest2983yes I agree with u Pepper is crap and it is very very overrated the Beatles are the most overrated band ever stones are way way better 2000 light years from home the lantern she’s a rainbow
Slog Through? If you had been there? This is the Rolling Stones letting their fans into the studio to watch them create! I for one think it's GREAT!
" WE LOVE YOU AND DANDELION SHOULD IT BE INCLUDING IN THE ALBUM ,ORIGINALLY ."
yeah-notice their inclusion would've brought the song total up to 12-the usual (for America anyway)
ABSOLUTELY!!! Edit "Sing This Alltogether (See What happens)" jam and use the slowed down trippy finale, and add those 2 singles and this album really comes together. IF you want to substitute Gomper (or edit out the 'trippy percussive jam' after the vocal lines) for Child Of The Moon, then WOW!!!!
@@jnagarya519 As they say, opinions are like A**holes, everyone has one, some stink more than others. People are just saying that the album song selection could have been put together better. It was not, because after delays the Stones wanted to get back to their Rock and Roll and Blues roots. The Stones were never trying to be peace and love/flower power the songs on that album, for the most part, contained dark overtones. As a representation of that era, She's A Rainbow" is a Classic song, and has renewed life today.
No...they were fine as a separate earlier single..it was a nice hold over until the album came out.
It is interesting that We Love You was the hit side in the U.K. and Dandelion was the hit side in the U.S.
Hey TJR very good analysis and did you know that John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin did the string Arrangement and conducted it.?Also members from the small Faces Steve Marriott and Ronnie Lane are on it as well.Nicky Hopkins is of coarse on it.And the legendary producer,engineer Eddie Kramer is on it too.
To Me this is a FAR Better and superior album then Sgt Peppers It is a BRILLIANT Masterpiece!!!
It's a good album.
What influenced She's A Rainbow was Arthur Lee and Love's She Comes in colors.
Hi TJR, the album always struck me as a bit of a rush job to get some product out for the Christmas market. With the court case earlier that year they may not have had the time to write better songs. there was a real possibility of Jagger and Richards doing jail time until the Times printed the famous breaking a butterfly upon a wheel story that changed public opinion in England. The Who even recorded two Stones tracks as a gesture of support . the promo video for we love you parodies this with Oscar Wilde references dandy clothes judicial wigs and clanking cell doors closing.regarding the track on with the show I'm not so sure it was a tribute to McCartney more likely i would say a nod to British music hall. A lot of UK bands such as the small faces did novelty numbers like this at the time. The Stones themselves did a similar number called something happened to me yesterday on their previous album between the buttons. Always enjoy your videos TJR thanks
It's a brilliant album; a psychedelic masterpiece. 10/10
Its the Stones Toytown era 😊 i have always loved it, period. Quirky, dark and weird, just like the Stones themselves
Excellent review. Interesting points. I have to wonder what the record would sound like had Andrew Loog Oldham stayed on board & called the shots. Or better still, Jimmy Miller had been recruited for this one rather than the album that followed it. I wish they had included the single We Love You, I think it would have made TSMR that much stronger. The mono sounds better to my ears.
I enjoyed your review. I was a teen when this came out and I clearly remember my reaction when I first heard it. I was a big Beatles fan and I thought "oh good.. the Stones are going in a similar direction to the Beatles, only darker." I wasn't really concerned about them "copying" the Beatles, as some said at the time. TSMR made me a bigger Stones fan than I had been before. Yes, there are some weak tracks - but Citadel, 2000 Man, She's a Rainbow, and especially 2000 Light Years from Home make this an enjoyable album for me even 50 years later. In retrospect, not my favorite Stones album, but still fun to listen to occasionally.
Great review and your proposed restructuring of the album is really good. The whole album is not cohesive like Sgt. Pepper's. It's okay though because the high points are really great. Both the Beatles and the Stones only went though about a 12 to 18-month phase where they were "happy shiny people." Then they got bored of the whole thing and moved on. However, what a magical time to be a rich twenty-something rock star with the flower girls and the acid-dropping parties and the bold modern colours and the "sense of the future" that is and was 1967. It was a magical time and if you listen between the lines you can feel it. At the time a lot a people really thought that there would be flying cars and moon bases by the year 2000. Growing up as a kid in the sixties, it felt like the year 2000 was infinitely far away. If you want to get a sense of the futurism and the optimism of 1967, just look up "Expo67."
I will certainly check that out...Thanks for the comment
Another great video. I’ve read that Brian Jones hated this album as a further step away from their blues and R & B roots. Might explain why he was so absent and checked out during the Beggars Banquet album sessions. Also this album was recorded during a very turbulent time for the band amidst all the legal troubles of 1967. Makes me appreciate it a bit more.
This album was a showcase for Brian's talent of playing a multitude of instruments. : sitar, mellotron, brass, and strings.
It's so unfortunate that "We Love You" with its b-side "Dandelion" were reserved for release as a single. Can you imagine the longer jams being replaced by these two excellent tracks? It would have greatly improved the album. I love the record as it is, but the jams do slog it down some.
Child of the moon would behave been great on this LP to
@manny4552 I don't know why YT won't allow me to directly reply to your post, but while Child of the Moon is a great song, it wasn't written until AFTER the release of Satanic so it couldn't have made the album.
@@crichards1986 I could not recall when it was released thanks.. it certainly belongs on that ld say..
I agree TJR, I do love the charm of this album. The music seems to be all over the place psychedelic, but I still dig MOST of it😆
It has a looseness that exudes 1967-8 pop era. Also I believe they were listening to alot of Zappa/Mothers at this time. Whaddya think? Good review, man.
Thanks!
Note: "She's A Rainbow" does not differ from the single version. Some CD versions were not properly track indexed. The slow droning sounds after Sing This All Together (See What Happens) was a small separate band that closed side 1 of the original vinyl. The "hawking" dialog after that was a small separate band that opened side 2 of the vinyl versions. Neither of these small tracks had titles or were listed on the cover or labels. The only option on CD would be to place this material in the negative space between the tracks, You would only hear them if you played the album straight through. Tom Petty did this on his Full Moon Fever CD (a spoken track that started with "Hello CD listeners", inserted between what was side 1 and 2 of the original vinyl)..
I love this album
And if you do that is GREAT. I am starting to appreciate it more myself, even if there are a few tracks that I skip over.
Me too
I agree with you when you said how people just saw it as a "rip off" of Sgt Pepper. I actually think there is a lot to be admired in this album, it being largely over looked as psychedelic nonsense. That being said in my opinion 2000 Man and She's a Rainbow are masterpieces.
I find myself liking it more as time goes on.
Psychedelic genre would only be showcased in Sgt. Pepper with songs: Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, Within You Without You,, and the reprise Sgt.Pepper. Loves Forever Changes, and TSMR by the Stones.
I mean the album cover is obviously Pepper inspired, but the actual songs aren't derivative of Pepper at all.
I agree.
Having not heard this album in many years, is it possible that "On With The Show" was the Stones answer to the Beatle's "Sgt. Pepper reprise" ?
Kudos to you for a very thorough and insightful review. I totally agree with you about the album but of course, i have some dissenting points:
Can't say why I like IN ANOTHER LAND. Maybe it is the first Bill Wyman song I know of and I love the chorus which is all Mick Jagger. I have to disagree with you because I do like the "underwater" effect of the verse. I am a big fan of THE LANTERN, which is sadly overlooked among many Stones fans. ON WITH THE SHOW is very much out of place on this album and I tend to forget that it's even on the album, especially after 2000 Light Years. And like you, GOMPER and STSA (SEE WHAT HAPPENS) are a waste of vinyl. Have to admit though that STSASWH is a forerunner to Revolution 9.
BUt my biggest disappointment? I wanted a Stones version of A DAY IN THE LIFE, but nothing comes close.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.
Ignorant people say that the Rolling Stones copied the Beatles. Did they want to copy their success? Yes. Of course. Who didn't? The Beatles were in stereo almost from the get go and their records were nothing if not precise. Martin demanded perfection. Clapton once said he admired their robot like precision. He found it intimidating. On the other hand the Stones records were in mono until relatively late in their career. They played very loose; giving a sense of risk, danger or a sense that they were out of control. But this great Band could ALSO keep it absolutely tight, as witnessed by MY two favorite Stones albums: "Aftermath" and "Buttons". This clock like precision, coming from the Stones makes me feel like the energy is building until I can't stand it anymore and I will explode! The stereo image is magnificent and the instrumentation is diverse and spot on! These two albums are pure Stones, and they FAR outdo ANY album the Beatles ever produced, except for MAYBE "Abbey Road". If you missed them, you haven't heard the Rolling Stones at their best; musically and philosophically. But DO NOT settle for the American version of either album. The English Versions have more cuts and different tracks and are the way the Stones wanted you to hear them. Add "Ride On Baby" and "Sittin' On A Fence" from "Flowers" and you have captured what I like to call the Baroque period of the Stones. Oh. I almost forgot! The mono singles version of "Mothers little Helper" from "Flowers" has MUCH more punch than the stereo album version because the bass somehow got lost in the mix. Also, "Out Of Time" from the same album is shorter by two minutes, but the mix is way better by comparison; sounding close and personal, instead of distant and far away. Nothing is perfect. Enjoy and Happy listening!
You had me ....until you proclaimed 'Between the Buttons' as a masterpiece. Born in the 50's I've listened to that album MANY times. I even listened to it after reading your post Mr Beam. I LOVE The Stones. But Between The Buttons is the most unsatisfying Stones release of all. All Beatles albums are better than that turkey. Aftermath - YES! Between The Buttons - NO WAY JOSE.
@@vdggmouse9512 Even jagger said when asked about Between the Buttons he said its not very good, i like some of the tracks on this album, the photo i think was taken on parliament Hill near Hampstead London.
@@vdggmouse9512 agree
That was a pretty sweet reworking of the album you had there. It really works well.
Thanks
Good concept on having the album have a different order, On With The Show finishing side one and 2000 Light Years From Home at the end with the reprise of Sing This All Together closing the album. It would have been better!
This is a great lp and not a rip off of anything
Billy er,I mean McCartney was hangin' around the Stone's Satanic sessions but I was never into his show tune music bullshit & Lennon wasn't either.Fot that matter Pepper was no rockn'roll record as it was all Faul's creation for joining that band.Like the Stones who should"ve included "Dandelion " & "We Love You" on Satanic Majesties Pepper should've had George's "It's All Too Much",Lennon's "Strawberry Fields" & even McFaul's "Penny Lane".That's my 2 cents.Btw Brian Jones played that wicked sounding mellotron on "2000 Light Years From Home".R.I.P..brother.
Pepper overated
@@Driecnk agree
@@Driecnkyea your right pepper is overrated i mean it’s way overrated the Beatles are the most overrated band band ever and the Beatles are #1 it should be The Rolling Stones the song satisfaction was a big number 1 hit in 1965 it knocked the Beatles off the charts in 1965 it was a big # 1 hit all over the world sorry Beatle fans no song beats satisfaction
1) I had the original album with the holograph but it got ruined. I did buy the CD version but the holograph picture was 2D. I had to pay $50 for a Japanese import of the CD with the holograph picture because I like the hidden pictures of The Beatles on it. The 2D copy only shows 2 of The Beatles. 2)Thank goodness for Google! I checked it out and found out that Gomper is a British term for an imbecile.
'Between The Buttons' was better imo' but to me The Rolling Stones work better when doing straight rock as their next 5 albums would prove, where they had their own run of classic albums & finally out of The Beatles shadow, but John Lennon was right until 1968 whatever The Beatles did, the Stones did months later, The early albums, Rubber Soul>Aftermath Revolver>Between The Buttons & so on, they really come into their own with 'Beggar's Banquet;) thank you TJR another great video
I agree.2000 light years from home should have been at (or nearly at) the end of the album.
I agree with most of your comments. The jam session on Sing all together didnt work and should have been shortened or scraped. Maybe replaced by Dandelion. The talking on Shes a Rainbow was a nothing burger not sure why you even mention it.
Your criticism on 2000 man was not warranted and I commend them for using the odd time signatures. It worked for me. What all reviewers of the album miss is that in 1967 this album was condemned by the religous right for allegedly being Satantic. Record stores were being forced not to sell the album . I think this reaction scared the Stones as what happened is they pulled away from the album and did not support it and throughout the years panned it.
This is a great album to get stoned too
Interesting video- there have been a number of social media videos
On this topic and it’s time to set story straight
These are not opinions folks these are the facts
*their satanic majesties request is in no way a a copy or even an attempt
at following Sgt Peppers lonely hearts club band any who thinks
Differently has no idea what their talking about.
* Brian Jones was 100% behind putting together “their satanic majesties request’” he was the genius behind its creation, and furthermore he wanted to take the stones further into this musical direction. But y have to keep that mick Jagger and kieth Richards are and where and will always be talentless fuck ups. After Brian Jones left the stones The Rolling Stones ceased to exist.
* Finally their satanic majesties request is the best album the stones ever did-it is a flawless masterpiece anyone who thinks differently has no idea what talking about!
Back in 1967 when LP was released nobody went around with labels like psychedelic they just appreciated the music.
In 1967 everybody was doing psychedelia, even the squarest ones like the Beach Boys
Loves Forever Changes, The Jefferson Airplanes-After Bathing at Baxters and Surrealistic Pillow were of the psychedelic genre
we wish you a merry christmas on a theramin?
for the first time,the stones lost their pop sense and became followers instead of leaders yoko level bad! is this one i can't believe how visible lennon's face is in this picture about where wyman's left knee is
Ugh.........but enjoyed your analysis, TJR.
Thanks. :)
I consider this album to be a masterpiece! Don't listen to it unless you're stoned!!!!🤣👽
Yes! Of Course!!!! 😆