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I understand that it's a USB iron, but it would be nice to have seen what power it can actually deliver and how it performs with the same tips in comparison to other irons or stations.
Hello, as for the actual power of S60 in use, the following videos are mentioned. ruclips.net/video/qx-6Tf4NJao/видео.html ruclips.net/user/shortslxr_D6omnj4
Which one of the USB-C irons do you prefer? You've tried a few of them now & would be good to get a recommendation. I use genuine JBC iron for home use, just looking for a mobile solution
Difficult to say since I don't think any of them are perfect. I'd like to see the Miniware take JBC cartridges, since the cartridge selection is quite poor.
@@davadoffit's a different fab process for microcontrollers compared to MEMS devices so that would be unusual (they would need a multi-die package with internal bond wires).
I bought Fnirsi HS-01, it came with 65W GaN charger and the iron can utilize that power 20Vx2.25A. It should handle 96W with connected PD DC charger with included USB-C->DC jack adapter. I would like to see your review on this, I did not disassemble it.
I bought an HS-01 as well and it is working well so far. On my power meter, it will pull the full 60W. The Hakko FX-951 style tips are very long however so this S60 looks like a nice option. I wish this S60 review covered whether it can pull the full 5A at 12V and how it does with a capable PD supply.
@@vtjballeng Hello, there are some ways you can see about 12V output 60W power. ruclips.net/video/qx-6Tf4NJao/видео.html ruclips.net/user/shortslxr_D6omnj4 The current S60 firmware supports a maximum voltage of 12V. The test firmware is now up to 21V and will be released soon after the test stabilizes. Meaning that most use PD20V power supply, current has 3A and above, S60 power can reach 60W.
@@SequreTech thanks, that's good to know. Fwiw, we did buy an S60 but did not like the tip options. We use chisel & bevel tips most of the time and there were no chisel & bevel tip options. We bought some from another store but would prefer to have purchased these tips with the S60 from you instead to have them matching.
Hi just ordered the one you have can you recommend a 60w charger and how many Amps I need think I will need a adapter when mine comes I see yours is two pin. 😊
5:16. The smallest, innermost tip contacts are pretty rough and at least one bar isn't touching at all. The larger contacts look fine. The need to offer a user menu option for the menu timeout itself as these brands are *ridiculous* at timing things out faster than any sane person would want. This is one of the nicer USB irons out there, but whoever configured a 3-second timeout in the menus should be hung ;).
It’s funny, I used to really want my iron to be USB-C powered. Then I tried one, and I’m wondering why they would spend the money on the components doing it. You are locked to a power socket, need a big thick inflexible cable, and a lot of the power supplies get all wonky with the sudden power spike demands that these irons make. Much rather just use a barrel connector in the end. I know I can make my own with a USB-C connector and some wire connected to an XT60, but…
@@harky.zykrah JBC C245 is a really high load (2.3R). Too much for USB unless you can limit the power in firmware. Assuming 100% (or low frequency) duty cycle, you’d have to use 12v maximum for the 5A limit (~60W). I’m not sure a USB C245 iron can ever perform the same as a desktop station (unlike C210 & C115). A mobile C245 iron should have a silicone lead with an XT60 on the end of it. Even then, it might not cope trying to deliver a sustained 130W to the tip (with 0.007R RDSon, I calculate 395mW MOSFET power dissipation).
pretty good really... perhaps an open question if a 100w version could give a little better performance with these c210. if they have any future plans like that. the t115 nano is also something i am curious about. anyhow good product
Hello, the SEQURE S60 is coming with a new firmware version that supports the PD 20V Max output of 60W, meaning that PD 100W can output the maximum power of the S60. If you are interested in C115, you can check out SEQURE S20, which is compatible with C115 tips
@@SequreTech what does that mean? Do i need pd100w to get 60w output or does the Iron outputs more than 60w with a capable Power source? Do you provide a Discount for me or maybe an Upgrade with 65W charger shipped? I would love to review this Iron for our company...
@@medienmond Hello, at present, the new firmware test is going in a good direction. At the same time, we are going through a stage of aging test before releasing the new firmware to ensure stability. The maximum power of the S60 is 60W. The new firmware supports PD 20V power supply. If the power source output is not less than 60W, the S60 can provide 60W power to the S60. Most sources can meet PD 20V voltage range current below 3A. Please look forward to the introduction of the new firmware and the introduction of 65W PD source.
The C210 cartridges aren't really designed to be used at high power. I think you'd struggle to get 100W or even 60W into any joint with the geometries available, even if the heater was capable.
I just received this today and noticed that it's unable to "work" with any of the USB-C PD power supplies I own. The iron will power up, but as soon as work mode is enabled, it will shutdown and power cycle. It's only working with USB-A so far.
I didn't notice this with this iron, but I had similar with one of the other JBC USB irons. Some USB power supplies are not very tolerant of high peak currents. I had no issue with the Anker 65W and 90W ones.
@@sdgelectronics Out of 7 USB-C PD sources I tried, only 1 worked with this iron at 9V. 2 out of 4 Quick Charge 3.0 sources worked at 12V (including the one provided out of the box). I wonder if something can be done about this in firmware to enhance compatibility.
Really tiny bits, but what do you expect from a 12v solder iron. And this one of many Miniware clone, i would stay with Miniware, they have great customer service, and replace your solder iron, even after the warranty is over/gone
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Thanks for the review. Bought one. I have a Unisolder 5.2 station and lots of JBC tips so its really a good addition for mobile soldering jobs.
How do these two compare? The TS100 was a big disappointment for me. Hoping the Sequre will be nicer because of the genuine JBC tips
Nicely put together video there Steve. And a pretty capable little iron there too 👍
Cheers
John
I understand that it's a USB iron, but it would be nice to have seen what power it can actually deliver and how it performs with the same tips in comparison to other irons or stations.
Hello, as for the actual power of S60 in use, the following videos are mentioned.
ruclips.net/video/qx-6Tf4NJao/видео.html
ruclips.net/user/shortslxr_D6omnj4
Spoilt for choice now ! and nice to see the power supply with it, great review....cheers.
Which one of the USB-C irons do you prefer? You've tried a few of them now & would be good to get a recommendation. I use genuine JBC iron for home use, just looking for a mobile solution
Difficult to say since I don't think any of them are perfect. I'd like to see the Miniware take JBC cartridges, since the cartridge selection is quite poor.
There's also the S99 now for C245 tips. Will you test this? Also the famous coin test? 🙏
Will that soldering iron work with a 3s lipo battery as full charge would be 12.6v or if a 2s was used would 8.4v give sufficient power output?
That white thing you thought was a fuse is actually a vibration / movement sensor. Presumably it powers off if it isn't triggered for a set period.
I thought the accelerometer was built into the microcontroller…
@@davadoffit's a different fab process for microcontrollers compared to MEMS devices so that would be unusual (they would need a multi-die package with internal bond wires).
Please review sequre s99 using c245 tip.
Thanks for the review! Also very interested in your thoughts on the S99 from Sequre that works with C245 cartridges as others mentioned.
I bought Fnirsi HS-01, it came with 65W GaN charger and the iron can utilize that power 20Vx2.25A. It should handle 96W with connected PD DC charger with included USB-C->DC jack adapter.
I would like to see your review on this, I did not disassemble it.
I bought an HS-01 as well and it is working well so far. On my power meter, it will pull the full 60W.
The Hakko FX-951 style tips are very long however so this S60 looks like a nice option. I wish this S60 review covered whether it can pull the full 5A at 12V and how it does with a capable PD supply.
@@vtjballeng Hello, there are some ways you can see about 12V output 60W power.
ruclips.net/video/qx-6Tf4NJao/видео.html
ruclips.net/user/shortslxr_D6omnj4
The current S60 firmware supports a maximum voltage of 12V. The test firmware is now up to 21V and will be released soon after the test stabilizes. Meaning that most use PD20V power supply, current has 3A and above, S60 power can reach 60W.
I'll add it to the list! I've got a pile of review items.
@@SequreTech thanks, that's good to know. Fwiw, we did buy an S60 but did not like the tip options. We use chisel & bevel tips most of the time and there were no chisel & bevel tip options. We bought some from another store but would prefer to have purchased these tips with the S60 from you instead to have them matching.
@@vtjballeng Thank you for your feedback. The future will continue to increase the type of different iron head choice.
The 20 watt version has the smaller 115 JBC tips I believe.
Yes, SEQURE S20 is the 20W version, compatible with C115 tips
I would have thought using the same style JBC tip as the S60 would / should have been ?
Thanks again
Thanks you ! Why you think the 20w is not good? The tip C115 ?
I love my mini iron , I think it's a TS100 🤔 anyway its pretty handy to have kicking around..
How is the hand feel ? I like my TS80P, this one looks a bit chunky by comparison
It's not quite as ergonomic as the TS80P, but it's not uncomfortable to use.
I saw some review that the S20 is much capable than s60. So I wish you compare them side by side.
Hi just ordered the one you have can you recommend a 60w charger and how many Amps I need think I will need a adapter when mine comes I see yours is two pin. 😊
There is another one you should review. It uses C115 style JBC cartridges.
QIANLI MEGA-IDEA Nano 20W USB Soldering Iron
Hello, if interested in C115, SEQURE S20 is compatible with soldering irons that support C115 tips
after firmware update it says it should accept 20volts! did anyone manage to get it to work without rebooting after heating for a few seconds??
5:16. The smallest, innermost tip contacts are pretty rough and at least one bar isn't touching at all. The larger contacts look fine.
The need to offer a user menu option for the menu timeout itself as these brands are *ridiculous* at timing things out faster than any sane person would want. This is one of the nicer USB irons out there, but whoever configured a 3-second timeout in the menus should be hung ;).
It’s funny, I used to really want my iron to be USB-C powered. Then I tried one, and I’m wondering why they would spend the money on the components doing it. You are locked to a power socket, need a big thick inflexible cable, and a lot of the power supplies get all wonky with the sudden power spike demands that these irons make. Much rather just use a barrel connector in the end. I know I can make my own with a USB-C connector and some wire connected to an XT60, but…
Need one of these that take c245 tips, have all the tips at my desk already but need something when away on jobs
Hello, man. Please wait, C245-compatible tip irons will be released soon
@@SequreTech Great! I will buy one on day one!
The Sequre S99 is out! if you've got one already could you let me know your thoughts? cheers
@@harky.zykrah JBC C245 is a really high load (2.3R). Too much for USB unless you can limit the power in firmware. Assuming 100% (or low frequency) duty cycle, you’d have to use 12v maximum for the 5A limit (~60W).
I’m not sure a USB C245 iron can ever perform the same as a desktop station (unlike C210 & C115).
A mobile C245 iron should have a silicone lead with an XT60 on the end of it. Even then, it might not cope trying to deliver a sustained 130W to the tip (with 0.007R RDSon, I calculate 395mW MOSFET power dissipation).
pretty good really... perhaps an open question if a 100w version could give a little better performance with these c210. if they have any future plans like that. the t115 nano is also something i am curious about. anyhow good product
Hello, the SEQURE S60 is coming with a new firmware version that supports the PD 20V Max output of 60W, meaning that PD 100W can output the maximum power of the S60. If you are interested in C115, you can check out SEQURE S20, which is compatible with C115 tips
@@SequreTech what does that mean? Do i need pd100w to get 60w output or does the Iron outputs more than 60w with a capable Power source? Do you provide a Discount for me or maybe an Upgrade with 65W charger shipped? I would love to review this Iron for our company...
@@medienmond Hello, at present, the new firmware test is going in a good direction. At the same time, we are going through a stage of aging test before releasing the new firmware to ensure stability. The maximum power of the S60 is 60W. The new firmware supports PD 20V power supply. If the power source output is not less than 60W, the S60 can provide 60W power to the S60. Most sources can meet PD 20V voltage range current below 3A. Please look forward to the introduction of the new firmware and the introduction of 65W PD source.
The C210 cartridges aren't really designed to be used at high power. I think you'd struggle to get 100W or even 60W into any joint with the geometries available, even if the heater was capable.
@@SequreTech Do you have a discount code to get this gadget cheaper or with additional accessoires for the same price??
Does anyone know the part number of those iron tip spring contacts or something similar?
They might be custom parts.
Does it deliver the 60W?
Hello, yes,there are some ways you can see about 12V output 60W power.
ruclips.net/video/qx-6Tf4NJao/видео.html
ruclips.net/user/shortslxr_D6omnj4
It's capable, but it doesn't because of the resistance of the cartridges.
@@sdgelectronicsso would you rather recommend a station like the aixun instead to take the C210 tips?
I just received this today and noticed that it's unable to "work" with any of the USB-C PD power supplies I own. The iron will power up, but as soon as work mode is enabled, it will shutdown and power cycle.
It's only working with USB-A so far.
I didn't notice this with this iron, but I had similar with one of the other JBC USB irons. Some USB power supplies are not very tolerant of high peak currents. I had no issue with the Anker 65W and 90W ones.
@@sdgelectronics Interesting, is this a natural result of the JBC cartridge resistance (and maybe why other mini irons use higher resistance heaters)?
@@sykskysyk most likely yes. They're only 2 or 3 ohms, so if the power supply is very quick with it's overcurrent protection then it may shut down
@@sdgelectronics Out of 7 USB-C PD sources I tried, only 1 worked with this iron at 9V. 2 out of 4 Quick Charge 3.0 sources worked at 12V (including the one provided out of the box). I wonder if something can be done about this in firmware to enhance compatibility.
Actually, I just realized this is what the power limit setting is for. Very handy!
Do coin test with that
Really tiny bits, but what do you expect from a 12v solder iron.
And this one of many Miniware clone, i would stay with Miniware, they have great customer service, and replace
your solder iron, even after the warranty is over/gone
pinecil seems better