Two Wins in Last Ten Leave Kings Vulnerable
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Hey all and I wanted to talk about the Kings today.
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I remember how THG put the Leafs in 1st of the Power Rankings back in 1968, and they've never recovered.
Be strong, King fans
Same with the Habs in 94, never forgive him.
power rankings curse strikes again
Love when the curse hits a rival team and not my team 😂
Ain't that the truth?!?! Every damn time... Arrrgggg!
Do you think he made this video precisely to get these comments?
Yup...Habs fan here, they get put on the top line of the power ranking...and now they've fallen off
If putting them first is a curse then why not have them 32nd just to see if it does the opposite
Shannon hit the nail on the head - Organizational change in philosophy is desperately needed in LA. The depressing part is that change seems super unrealistic unless the team face plants and collapses entirely. This management group / coaching staff truly believes defense is the answer to everything and the way to win championships. The Kings love players like Moore, Danault, Foegele, Lewis, Anderson, Gavrikov, and Edmundson - defensively responsible players with limited offensive upside - "safe" players who are low risk but also low reward. It's part of why they choose to scratch their best offensive defenseman in Clarke as soon as Doughty is back. In the Kings eyes - Clarke is 'too risky'. It's also why a player like Fiala is struggling. And why PLD struggled so much last year. They force this "defense first" structure on players and seriously handcuff the team's offensive potential in the process. The frustrating part is the team itself is actually fairly solid. On one hand, maybe they could fix things with a decent trade or two. But on the other hand, even if they brought in some outside help to boost the team offensively - Who that really make a difference if they're still playing the same "defense first" Kings hockey?? Or would you just end up frustrating / handcuffing the players you acquire?? Very weird spot for the Kings right now.
Literally EVERY SINGLE JANUARY, the Kings forget how to play competent hockey and proceed to free-fall and collapse.
At least it’s not actually as bad as last year’s 3-13 dumpster fire that got TMac fired. And most of our remaining games are at home. I think they’ll get it together again after the four nations break, but it’s definitely a weird curse with this team that they just completely forget how to score goals for a painful stretch somewhere between December and January
@@luckyjosh7 it used to be December was our shit the bed month
It’s all your fault THG
Again
Told my wife this yesterday. #1 on THG power rankings then a complete nosedive. It’s a curse!!
haha
Haha right ✅️
Could it be that he made this video precisely to get these comments? 😂😉
Kings Defense first is admirable but it has no doubt capped many of their players upside. When there’s slumps, it’s REALLY noticeable. Moore and Danault have been egregious to watch. Benching Turc and playing Lewis in a must score situation is also puzzling.
Of all the things that anger me, it’s the fact that “vets” like Lewis can perennially be horrible, but turc and Clarke and the young guys, who are consistently better, will get benched for the smallest mistake.
@@hughjainisis1683 100%... It's so concerning because I'm SURE the younger players have caught on to this as well. Hiller basically KILLED Clarke's confidence with some of the comments he made to the media earlier in the season. The level of accountability is completely different for young players than it is for vets and that's terrible from a culture perspective.
@@DrBeerGames yup spot on Clarke was point per game when the Kings were rolling, and you have to allow a guy like that to grow into a better D man. Yes there’s gonna be some mistakes, but his upside will compensate rather than forcing him into the role of a shutdown first dman, which is not what he was drafted for. Case in point Durzi. Some defensive lapses, but very dynamic offensively and on the power play. Sold him for a second and before he was injured was a first pairing defenseman on Arizona. Kings front office needs to be cleaned out.
Kings are my team. With the current team composition, they have little chance to make it out of the second round and haven't even been able to get out of the first. The front office should have been cleaned out a while ago.
Calgary and Vancouver are right behind them as well. If Los Angeles doesn't turn this around soon. They may very well fall out of the playoffs.
I think the Blake era has been a massive failure to haunt this team for who knows how many years
good ole boys club. after blake will be bergevin, after hiller will be dj smith. good times ahead -_-
@@jauncyriley9870 That's the most depressing part. Even if they fire Blake this management group will just replace him with Bergevin and we'll be even more screwed.
Haven't been the same since the wildfires.
Let's not blame the fires. This is an annual problem.
Has literally nothing to do with the fires.. these guys live in Manhattan Beach.
Correlation =/= causation
Sarcasm
The offense needs some kind of infusion. They have flashy forwards and then not so much. Personally don’t think Danault has the offense to center second line. Used to playing in top six but I think he is a solid third line center.
It's almost as if we hibernate around this time of year...
And their last goal wasn't even by them. It was an own goal by Seider.
This is so typical for the Kings. Look good for a bit then completely fall off, then towards playoff time they pick it up a bit
This happened last year.
January has been cursed for them it feels like
Yeah and it's always the wise guys who pick tbem to go deep
Let's please not do 8 straight L's
absolutely no surprises when they win their next 4 games handily
Thanks for the video! Good info, details, and insights! They need a couple of fresh young scorers to spark the offense.
Yeah, thanks THG for jinxing us.
They gotta get a true top end superstar forward. Go Kings!!!
Oilers the only one in that division that isn’t epically collapsing. Make sure you put them at the top of the power rankings to restore balance.
Calgary and Vancouver are going to force LA out of the playoffs what are you talking about.
@ kings were on top, they collapsed. Knights were on top, they collapsed. Calgary and Vancouver were never at the top and thus incapable of a collapse(yet) and I guarantee that the canucks aren’t going to make the playoffs so I have no idea what you’re referring to there.
Shannon I blame you
As a Kings game I’m not worried in the slightest. This seems to happen every year they’ll be back to around .600 soon. Very depressing watch though
Being a King's fan is still better then being a Sabre's Fan
In 2012, the Buffalo Sabres extended the parking lot of the formerly named HSBC arena. In a controversial and sketchy deal, they managed to acquire a piece of property adjacent to the existing lot to build the new extension. That land was purchased from the Iroquois First Nation and was sacred to them, and we violated it by building a parking lot over top of it. What we are experiencing is a classic "indian burial ground curse" situation. According to local sports media, Terry Pegula has been seen with a Raven-feathered dream catcher hanging from the rear view mirror of his Dodge Caravan as a way to try and appease the Raven spirit and lift the curse.
We were cursed by THG, we’ve had 3 goals overturned in the last 4 games.
8:56 that wording though 💀🔥
I don’t want to discredit how poorly the offense is performing, but one thing to keep in mind is that 8/10 of those games are away games. The Kings had (up until now) an above average road record, but I’m not surprised it has caught up to them. They have only 19 home games and 30 road games (for comparison we’ll play tomorrow at Carolina who will have their 27th home game).
So while I wish the offense would show up and we got through this stretch a more reasonable 5-5-1 or something, I’m not going to worry about making the playoffs just yet. There are a lot of home games left for the Kings. GKG
While the Kings aren't my team, I kinda feel for them. A lot of those guys have been dealing with the fires same as everyone else in LA. Their losing streak basically started when the Flames game was moved from LA for obvious reasons and delayed. They're understandably probably a bit distracted by everything.
No…
Vo... 🔵=🔥
LA is doing whatever they can do in order to be able to finish 7th or 8th... That way we can all enjoy the 4th consecutive instalment of LA vs Edm in yhe first round.
All in all the month of January has been terrible for all things LA
Thanks for video but it could’ve been all explained in 10sec:
“ I put them number 1 , and cursed them “
Just like last season
We are a team that is ok with being ok. Every time we have a chance to be better we make a trade to make us ok again.
This team kills all offensive talent players have because we only want defense games, we keep trying to make players into a new kopi/drew when it’s just not possible. Like how many guys have we shipped out that go on and light it up in other places, and what do we get? Nothing or bad returns. Faber, durzi, Gabe and even PLD are just three of a long list.
How many teams joke by saying “man we love Blake” because of a lob sided trade.
The fact we were worried we might trade Clarke is insane, same with benching him. We are a country boy club and it’s a problem.
Our goalies have been playing fantastic which makes it even more frustrating to watch us let them down, like big save Dave had probably his best game of his career last game and we didn’t score.
I’d like to be excited for the future because we have QB, Clarke, Greentree, and our trio of good goalie prospects with Portillo, Hammer, and George. Add in guys like Turcotte, akil, Spence, Sammy and older guys like Kempe, Phill etc and we SHOULD be a good team. But I don’t trust this org to make the right decisions and develop our young guys right.
3 disallowed goals in 4 games, 2 of the overturns where horrendous decisions.
What 2
cope
@@Kuchprod the TB and Florida, the one against vs the blue jackets was a clear off sides. Last night even the TB announcers thought it was a goal after watching multiple replays, the one against panthers they claimed goalie interference on T Lewis, but he was tripped by a panthers, not only disallowed goals but no penalty for the trip against panthers
Idk that this will be fixed anytime soon. For the last 15+ years, the Kings have drafted, developed, and made trades based around a defense first system. The coaches and GMs have come and gone and it’s the same throughout. This is the organization’s DNA.
Literally exact flashback from last year
Just know YOU did this to them but as an Oilers fan I love it can you please do the same to Vegas?
And they have now gone 8 periods without scoring a goal.
9 periods, 1 goal.
Do a video on the Jets
try neutral zone forecheck and puck possession?
Every year , the King's capture all the wise guys
Imagine if they cough up, then the Nucks probably make the playoffs. I would love the drama.
I’m just here to rave about that Marco Kasper goal in the thumbnail. What effort!
Me, a canes fan: “that’s a tough streak. They’re gonna be fired up to break it, wonder who they’re playing next?”
*checks schedule*
“Oh no.”
Meh, I wouldn’t worry. We haven’t even hit bottom yet.
wow i didnt realize the drop off
Shannon, Kopitar is going to live forever, don't say those words! Don't say those words!
jk in all seriousness, January is historically bad for the Kings, not sure why. I can't help but feel like some of this might have stemmed from the fire, and the back of the mind issues it might cause, but who knows.
they do this every year!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY STAN STEAMER SMYL turned 67 today!
So, they weren't produce on offensive end, "let's bench Clarke!" and then proceed to score 0 for two games that Clarke was benched.
Rob Blake should have been gone last summer, no surprise that this team has failed to achieve anything with him in charge.
My Kings! What happened? 😢😥😭😭😭 You make several good points, however. (Superb jersey!)👍👍
Was at the Kraken loss - there was just zero offensive attack or imagination.
I think personally Kings were overperforming for a while this year to what I thought they were going to be. I thought they were a wildcard team at best and maybe that is what we are seeing here.
As a kings fan I gotta think their offense is going to average out. They absolutely need to trade for a scorer though. It’s been an emotional few weeks in LA and they have been constantly on the road against very good teams. They also have the best home record in the league and play a ton of home games coming up.
Hey, give them credit for consistency - they lost 3-0 in each of their last two games.
I genuinely like everyone on my kings. They’re a good team & I’m proud to be a kings fan. That said, QB needs to knock it off with the polite hockey player thing and just take over. He’s better when he’s mad. Kev’s working on it, but it’s just not happening. Same with Moore. We need some star power but I don’t think it’s gonna happen anytime soon.
I think this is a skill issue on the players same general team as years past and it doesn’t change much each year
I hope their problems last just one more game!😂 Go Canes!!
This is 2 years in a row Shannon!! 😡😭
82 game schedule dark days are inevitable? Players' teams' injuries how many gummies do you think a coach or Gm has to eat to keep stress levels down? Just common days for me some days i could 💩 blood
Tell me how many teams you jinxed for past seasons
offsides, offsides, offsides
Blake should never have been brought back as a player, much less as a GM. (Yes, I was one of those booing him as a member of the Avalanche and as a Shark back in the day.)
Goddamn it Shannon 🤬 You've done it again
Good thing we’re benching our highest scoring defenseman!
Idk if the fires would have anything to do with it. Perhaps players’ family members who are affected by it? Regardless, I think they will turn it around. However a date with Edmonton in the first round seems more and more likely… again 😅
You did this
The PP coach needs to be jettisoned. A team that wants to play shutdown Defense HAS TO be able to punish teams that take penalties. Instead they use the PP to take a rest from aggressive defense it seems.
Seems like yesterday THG was saying great things about LAK, even putting them #1 on the Power Rankings. Been all downhill since.
8 periods without scoring a goal.
Great... now they're gonna start winning again.
Yup.
Lightning fans feel this pain
The Kings just can't create enough offensively.
If there's one thing I've learned from video games, everything is a skill issue
you did this to us shannon. why? XD GKG!
They were doing great, both Trevor Moore and Lewis came back, they switched things up and all of a sudden junk?! Time to go with youth, Helenius, Akil, Andre Lee, maybe Fagemo,, it’s time! And thank you for mentioning Doughty,I’m glad he’s back but he won’t turn us around, tired of everyone thinking he’s gonna solve all our problems.
4:32 basically what the Caps did last season, losing and not entertaining. I'm surprised LA is able to do that for all these years. I can't stand it for even a season and didn't watch most of last season because it is with certainty that regardless of the outcome, it will be boring hockey and who wants that?
if they had went 5-5 id say theyre fine but 2-8 thats brutal
Remember when you made us first and remarked how Kings fans would rue the day? Yeah.
2-7-1 since Shannon ranked them 1st
The curse lives on
I wonder if the Kings have the sack to say let's grab a 2C (Granlund?) at the deadline and let Byfield and Danault slot in at 3 and 4 which suits the reality of where they are as players NOW, not the hope we had for where they'd be. Lombardi and Sutter had the sack to do that in 2014 with Mike Richards. They took no pleasure in it, but they did it, and they reaped the benefits. If the Kings honestly expect to be a Cup contender this season, and they should because Blake's contract is up, they need to put all of the denial and the kid gloves for veterans aside. This team needs a shot in the arm, and they need a shot of meritocracy.
It’s genuinely hard to watch them, not only because of this antiquated defense above all else mentality, but because deployment is horrible. The fact Trevor Lewis never gets benched while Clarke and turcotte get punished for the smallest mistake is ridiculous. Entire front office has to go.
As an AVS fan, I feel bad about this. NO Really! 😀
I don't believe the Kings have any concerns when it comes to making the playoffs. They are an amazing home team, and by some bizarre scheduling disaster they've only played 19 home games, compared to 31 road games!! Both Calgary and Vancouver lack the consistency this season to BOTH push LA out. Not to mention, Drew Doughty's return, which isn't a small thing. Sure he's been rusty but he'll shake it off. LAs only problem is the first round matchup they have, they're going to be in tough once again for the 4th straight year regardless of whether it's Edmonton or Vegas they are facing.
They're two points ahead of Vancouver, one point ahead of Calgary. There should definitely be concerns over the playoffs.
@@TheHockeyGuy Yes, if the Canucks and Flames continue to improve then LA could find themselves one wild card spot short of making it. I just think with 22 of their last 33 games at home (with one of the best home records in the league), they'll be able to secure one of those two spots. As you mentioned in a previous video a very cold team could potentially come out of the two week break in a much better state of mind as well. I'm curious whether Rob Blake will make some big moves in the 5/6 weeks left before the deadline (I'm not sure of the Kings cap situation).
@@TheHockeyGuy100 percent
We are close to the cap if not at it. There was a reason why I am so unhappy with paying 4 mil to a bottom pair d man
Not even bringing how many games they've played on the road versus at home is rather puzzling. This has to be brough up for context, especially given their home record this season. Not only has their schedule been imbalanced this way, they've had two 7-game roadtrips as well while some teams may have a single 6-game road trip as their longest road trip all season. I'm sure fatigued is a part of this lack of production.
As a diehard Kings this is hard to watch. I love Blakey, but i agree with others that he has made some questionable moves. We need to make a move for a second line goal scoring/ playmaking center. Danault just isnt creating what we need.
Scored 3 goals Moe gifted them one
What are you talking about? Montreal isn't falling back. They've crashed to earth.
how to ruin a teams season. Be ranked #1 on THG's power ranking. And poop.
They are the most tedious team in the league, rely almost solely on stopping the other team playing (their goals for 3rd from bottom in the NHL) - I for one will be happy not to watch them in the playoffs
This is pretty much the story for most teams this year. Hot streaks followed by cold streaks. Thats why we have no clear contenders for the wild card spots.
What did you do to us
It's your fault, Shannon. Ever since you talked about how good the Kings were they've been playing like 💩
Guys kings doin this on purpose. They want a crossover to central to avoid McD and Leon lol
Ironically doing this could land them the Oilers again
as a canes fan the kings are winning tommorrow because same thing last year they came to town had lost 8 in a row and turned it around after they came to raleigh.
womp womp
I was hoping you wouldn’t make this video lol… but they’re fine
And we all know who's fault this is. Who didn't see this coming?
Some teams like oilers are good enough to beat the kings shape with brute skill. but kraken, penguins and redwings aren't that amazing. Something isn't working. The defensive shape isn't supposed to let five goals in. Do they forget about their shape when they are losing? Or is the defense starting to show cracks?
😂😂😂😂👀
It’s your fault for making them number one