I feel so engaged when watching these videos, and then I saw a commercial and I felt soooo compelled to pay for the product. Uh. Good Great excellent et cetera (Come on algorithm, get activated!)
At some point I want to try making some copper oxide solar cells. The efficiency is terrible at single digit percents but I think they might make up for it by being cheap and easy to make.
This was a great video, starts saying how you won't explain how solar cells works and spend the next 30min talking about it in-depth, great work, great research.
Looks like we're probably going to be importing many tons of premade cells for power in the meantime while bootstrapping isru methods since we'll want to have lots of power as soon as possible i bet
Did you just say "beg your wife's boyfriend"? 😂😂😂😂 Edit: it's been a while since I was here last. evidently what he said was a meme, I apologize for the error. I am not well versed in memes as I am not always online.
I loved the 9:17 thing, you sounded so sincere I looked it up on wikipedia and was 15 minutes deep into researching, wondering tf going on. then I played the video to be hit by 10:22 bruhhh
Awesome breakdown of lunar solar power! 🚀 Love how you make complex science both insightful and fun. I understand that we are still dealing with the basics like structure and energy. But I am also excited about food production. Can’t wait for the next videos!
Hi Ian! I'm studying to become a mechanical engineer and you've really inspired me on this topic of lunar colonization (THE STARS ARE OUR BIRTHRIGHT RAAAAAA). Anyway, I want to help in some capacity develop solutions to these problems. How? What other topics can I study on the moon that might help? What other problems of lunar colonization will you want to cover in the future? Also, If you want open-source help on these complex problems, putting passionate people together in a discord server might help. Thanks for reading!
One problem is that around the moon just above the surface orbit a myriad of tiny but very sharp dust shards that will sand to opacity any reflective or transluscent surface, making both photovoltaic and even solar thermal power difficult. You could build shield walls around arrays to deflect that dust. Mineral-poor lunar dust will come in handy for concrete production to give earthly coastal-eco systems a break and avert potential any shortage.
Great channel that sells mini nuclear generators! Interesting how much $ has gone into solar cells. We have had nuclear power for a long time. Wish we had used it to power the world in my lifetime!
Dang bro. This was so much more than I assumed it would be. Badass production! Great storytelling. and yes, hilarious. "Before LED's windows were invented." And, you know, my wife's boyfriend is that kind of generous. I mean he takes care of her for me. So...
I love all of your videos so much, you really make me hopeful for the future. I really mean that. You deserve way more subscribers. Videos like these should be mandatory viewing for colleges.
How did you generate such insaely good visuals here? This looks like a custom cad rendering or maybe a scene you built in unity/unreal. Either way its clear you're skilled. Cudos, you've rightly earned a subscriber in me.
Also, I really want to hear more about lunar glass manufacturing! If it turns out to be a lot easier and materials-efficient to make glass than the actual PV cells (and why not, if it's a simpler product requiring no imports?), then it might make sense to make smaller cells with glass lenses to focus the light. This would have the added benefit of increasing the temperature, if 130-150-deg. annealing of the PV cell is actually needed, and the cell would self-anneal. It would also increase the thickness of cosmic ray shielding that would damage cells in the first place. And, depending on the geometry of the glass, it might somewhat negate the issue with light angle of incidence, as each row (I'm presuming one would make these glass+PV modules in strips, rather than squares with a bubble of glass on top) would be aligned north-south and would focus the light onto the cell regardless of the time of day, thus needing no motor to track the sun. I hope I'm right, but I'm no expert on this, so maybe I'm way off base.
It's really nice to be able to retreat into technical and practical considerations like this, considering what we're dealing with on a policy level nationally these days. And you're right about that essentially unfounded pessimism and even nihilism we've endured these last 5 decades. Here's hoping we can get away from that by homesteading Luna and all its LaGrange Points!
I suspect that the best way to provide power for a lunar base, at least initially, would be a large satellite fleet beaming power down, probably via laser or microwaves. Allows for near perfect orientation to maximize the input energy and no real worries about potential use as a weapon. After that it’d make sense to begin cell production locally on the moon. Great video, appreciate all the effort you put into researching it!
If you can make linear extruded glass/crystal lenses and prisms you can make 60% efficient PV heliostats (single axis, trough) by with 15 junctions placed in parallel thin lines, spectrum splitting parallel multi junction photovoltaics However you need to go towards silicon or germanium plus InGaN in varying alloy compositions to tune the bandgap for each spectrum of light hitting it
Towards the ends , realised We could use the machine from your giant excavator video and "print" the solar planels from where it stripped regolith from?kinda like it goes forward stripping and another thing or itself prints the panels !
Would be cool if you made a google doc or github repo for all this research so others can contribute and have it all centralized. Would also be able to have sources linked and all that fun stuff too.
12:35 good to remember that this rise in Chinese support for a domestic green industry was built with industrial espionage and trade warfare as integral pieces. Sinovel is an excellent example.
I was just thinking about this problem - inspired by your vids. It’d be so impressive to see someone demo an active rover/robot on simulated lunar regolith here on earth churning out functioning cells. Had me wondering about such an apparatus operating in our major deserts on Earth, too. On another topic - and, I’m only a fan, not an owner or affiliated with either - have you considered partnering with Brilliant or Khan Academy? Like O’Neill, your inspirational / practical material makes for great exercises for motivating & educating future STEM professionals. Kudos, yet again!
6:03 Sounds good but you don't need to see through it. You just have to have the photons pass through. Even a thin sheet of copper. I am talking nanometers can allow some light to pass through. 6:52 We may have to consider adding a mesh to the outside cover. this would be made of conductive metal. This would allow the outside cases to be polarized so they can repel dust. Which will accumulate over time. It can be set to a pulse which last about the same time you can snap your fingers. That way, the panels will be clean and it won't be a constant drain on power. 7:34 Monocrystalline would be best as it has the most stable structure. 8:11 Amazing! Did you know that was how candles were made. Only they used animal fat of course.
Luna would act basically like northern Canada. No wants to be there. Natural resources are the export. Oh and very expensive groceries. Edit: Buttt it will have mASSive mASS drivers.
I would love to know how you'd establish a lunar hydrocarbon industry, smelting metals with carbonate fluxes and Fischer-Tropsch comes to mind. Plastics would be very useful in solar cell production and you could maybe kick start the whole thing with a couple barrels(plastic barrels) of petcoke and water🛢🛢+🛢🛢. Gasified together maybe by introducing them to a smelt at a 50/50 ratio by weight ( the petcoke and water), milled fine enough it could be sprayed into the furnace like a heavy oil to make a syngas which can be used to make hydrocarbons or infinitely cycled through smelts to reduce and catalysts to reform which could also be a source of oxygen, breaking CO2 and H2O to CO, H and O2. I love this channel, my mind is ablaze with ideas. Or maybe its the weed mixed with the new meds...🤔
Geothermal lunar energy. Boring machine a few tunnels… 1 down and deep (geothermal), then a second horizontal as a habitat. Use the excavated materials as resources (iron, silicon, aluminum, etc), and the dregs as shielding.
Good video but I do want to correct the comments on prevalence of tracking PV solar here on earth. Speaking as someone who works as an engineer in the Utility-scale solar world, it is not accurate to say that tracking is only seen on older designs (at least not for single-axis tracking). The site owners are businesses seeking to make money and you get ~30% more energy generation using single axis tracking. Great strides have been made to reduce the cost of the extra infrastructure so much so that almost all MW to GW solar sites built now are single axis tracking. For lunar situations and other space-based aplications it may make less sense in a situation where you may lack the right infrastructure to do tracking or the design comlexity is not worth it compared to an “accordion” style layout with fixed tilt.
Excellent video. Even besides creating them, the biggest problem I see is the regolith itself. My solar panels attract dust like you wouldn't believe. If I couldn't wash them off every few days they would be almost worthless. The regolith on the moon as far as I understand it is extremely abrasive and sharp in its own way. It seems like it would be a great material to use for just about everything up there, but if there isn't a way to keep the panels cleaned off then it is a moot point. The moon may not have an atmosphere like Earth does but dust still moves. You move around to clean something off, you create more dust. As the regolith is so abrasive, rubbing it off could do damaged in the long run. Water will be a very precious commodity up there. A small blast of air or gas would probably help, but would have its own issues to go along with it.
@letsburn00 LOL I did the standard EarlyLifeCheck™️ looking for ✡️ connections. He looks clean. Is there something I'm missing?? I actually love his channel.
@@ajm2872 His wife made comments about how it wasn't fair that they only taught the holocaust from one perspective (i.e that Nazis and murder is bad). She's a politician and has some pretty incomprehensibly awful things. His patreon effectively funds their household.
Have you considered contacting Geoffrey Landis? Your videos are very well researched, and as a researcher myself, we always enjoy seeing our research being presented well and iterated upon. (Speaking of, if you ever need a physicist with a lot of reactor/nuclear/particle physics knowledge, I can contact you somewhere else)
You wouldn't need a motor and a sensor for every panel, as long as their weighted correctly and you have belts you can do approx 100 in a line before belt efficiency gets you IIRC. I Did the math in undergrad I'll see if I can pull it up again on my computer
You’re gonna be so happy when the zero point technology in a few months. It gets rid of the whole issue of moving materials quickly or expensively not to mention generating basically infinite free energy.
I would like to thank you for the effort you go to make these videos. I'm a guy who also thinks about this stuff and want to run numbers. I would like to point out that MIT managed to make thin film solar panels with about 20grams/m^2 and about 10% efficiency. If you can deploy them at than thickness a starship V3 will be able to carry about 7500000m^2 on the moon, producing about 975MWe during daylight (i assume we need to reserve about 50 tons of the payload for CH4 to be combined with ISRU O2 to power the return trip home). However it would actually be better i think to deploy them as solar power satellites, especially if we're talking about some base on the poles because the NRHO is the closest thing you can have to lunar stationary orbit. We could then allocate 50 tons of payload to a deployable transmition system. We would get to keep 585MWe as a stable power source for the 6 out of 7 days that they spend having a direct line of sight. You deploy 7 of them in NRHO and you get about 3.5GWe on the ground 24/7. There is a lot you could do with that. If you plan to manufacture them on the surface, i think the best is to deploy them in the equator in a thin line going all around the moon. You thicken that line as you expand production. I would also like to point out again that your faith that space expansion can happen within the profit motive framework does seem implausible. Don't let the success of SpaceX fool. There is not a bourgeoning space economy growing. If you take spacex out the picture,our progress is insignificant
Smart and funny my favorite type of content. Subbed my friend. Maybe post more links so we can go down some of these rabbit holes ourselves or you know you could just keep making more videos detailing more rabbit holes. Lol o7
Question: How long would one have before cleaning the panels of the dust caused by charged particles? Compressed air to clean them off? Compressed waste o2? Electrostatic repulsion?
I don't believe it's mentioned in the video but 1 sq km of solar panels on the moon with 10% efficiency at average inclination would produce about 90 MW of electricity. So if you need 5 tons of material per sq km imported from earth and a launcher can bring 100 tons of material to the moon, that's a 2 GW powerplant per launch.
@AnthroFuturism is there potential to use and manufacture superconductors for energy transmission on the moon? As the lunar night, might be cold enough to allow for known super conductive capable materials. and then of course shade the transmission lines during the day so they maintain there superconductivity.
As you're nailing down the processes I'm really curious about the practicalities of the actual moon factories themselves, like how you'd gather, haul, produce and place all this stuff. Factories to process tons of material are pretty big and heavy themselves. Do we need a Factorio play and send parts to build a starter factory to build the factory to build the actual things we want?
Is there any reason titanium oxide alone is not sufficient for the top electrode? Even if it is less efficient for some reason, not needing to import anything might make up for that.
Probably the easiest would be to meld the entire area. The moon gets double the solar power from the sun and no air to cool stuff, so you just need a big magnifying glass to meld the ground.
Saw this (the video title), and it got me curious about what effect the reduced gravity would have on the process for growing silicon ingots for IC (and solar cells) production. I don't know, but it is certainly something NASA should investigate. Amorphous solar panels are well known to not last as long. Certainly, the vacuum would make storing heat energy easier (as in a thermos). The population problem seems to be solved once industrialization happens.
Imagine a tower hotel looking out over the edge of a lunar crater, with a low gravity alien theme park & rides inside and what a swimming pool would feel like ? Eagle one style lunar hoppers to take people on excursions after making a high leap to encircle the moon & industrial facilities might make sightseeing tours more interesting. And a large spaceport and factory with ships preparing to fly to Mars and beyond with a statue of mr. Zubrin pointing the way 🙂 Hail dr. Landis. Might taking advantage of the large difference between sun and shadow on the moon make for a better solution, turn heat straight to electricity via rotation ( shape memory alloy ? ) or a TEG ?
One option you didn't discuss are perovskite solar cells, which are the hot new thing here on earth. One thing that keeps them from being deployed on a large scale is their sensitivity to moisture. Not a huge issue on the Moon last I checked. However, the required materials might be hard to come by compared to silicon. Temperature extremes also degrade them but there is ongoing research that's promising for perovskites in space. Though like I said, maybe not on the Moon.
Ngl other than gallium arsenide, or silicon n type and p type cells, there are new technologies that can allow the cell to absorb more light over different spectrums. This can obsolete the other method entirely.
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I feel so engaged when watching these videos, and then I saw a commercial and I felt soooo compelled to pay for the product. Uh. Good Great excellent et cetera
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Algorithm is actively edging to plateau
At some point I want to try making some copper oxide solar cells. The efficiency is terrible at single digit percents but I think they might make up for it by being cheap and easy to make.
@@theCodyReeder the fact you can use a GELATIN electrolyte with those is the craziest thing
I'd be super interested in seeing that
This was a great video, starts saying how you won't explain how solar cells works and spend the next 30min talking about it in-depth, great work, great research.
Love the $4 gas bit, it really had me going in the first half, not gonna lie
Man, I love this channel
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Edit: Love "entropic war machines."
Wait, I thought it was Anthropic War Machines, as in giant gundam robots.
Looks like we're probably going to be importing many tons of premade cells for power in the meantime while bootstrapping isru methods since we'll want to have lots of power as soon as possible i bet
yay moon guy
Came for the space videos, stayed for the philosofical reflexion
Did you just say "beg your wife's boyfriend"? 😂😂😂😂
Edit: it's been a while since I was here last. evidently what he said was a meme, I apologize for the error. I am not well versed in memes as I am not always online.
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Stop these cuckolding jokes. This is not normal. It is a sick fetish.
That part was sad
@@Firetiger93His wife isnt
His scripts and visuals are becoming more and more sophisticated! And fun.
This channel is criminally underrated
that mass effect sound track goes perfect with this
Every video you post makes me love the moon even more.
this channel is my happy place
This channel is so cool, it reminds me of a similarly themed book(except it's about mars) I believe it was called smth like "The new world on Mars"
Favorite channel out right now. Its not even close.
You're the Mark Twain of futurism youtube videos. Well done
I finished bingewatching all your videos today. I love you.
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I loved the 9:17 thing, you sounded so sincere I looked it up on wikipedia and was 15 minutes deep into researching, wondering tf going on. then I played the video to be hit by 10:22 bruhhh
commenting just for the algorithm, this channel needs way more views
O RUclips algorithm, may you see fit to bless this channel, that its gifts may be bestowed to the many that find them pleasing.
Awesome breakdown of lunar solar power! 🚀 Love how you make complex science both insightful and fun. I understand that we are still dealing with the basics like structure and energy. But I am also excited about food production. Can’t wait for the next videos!
Thanks!
@@hallahgray3190 thank you!
Hi Ian! I'm studying to become a mechanical engineer and you've really inspired me on this topic of lunar colonization (THE STARS ARE OUR BIRTHRIGHT RAAAAAA). Anyway, I want to help in some capacity develop solutions to these problems. How? What other topics can I study on the moon that might help? What other problems of lunar colonization will you want to cover in the future?
Also, If you want open-source help on these complex problems, putting passionate people together in a discord server might help. Thanks for reading!
One problem is that around the moon just above the surface orbit a myriad of tiny but very sharp dust shards that will sand to opacity any reflective or transluscent surface, making both photovoltaic and even solar thermal power difficult. You could build shield walls around arrays to deflect that dust. Mineral-poor lunar dust will come in handy for concrete production to give earthly coastal-eco systems a break and avert potential any shortage.
How do things orbit just above the surface on something as lumpy as the moon?
@@imaginary_friend7300constant micro meteorites hitting the moon??? idk man
@@imaginary_friend7300 Maybe there's an electrostatic effect from solar storms like in For All Mankind
Best channel on RUclips
Great channel that sells mini nuclear generators! Interesting how much $ has gone into solar cells.
We have had nuclear power for a long time. Wish we had used it to power the world in my lifetime!
I absolutely love how willing you are to import, but importing sensibly
Dang bro. This was so much more than I assumed it would be. Badass production! Great storytelling. and yes, hilarious. "Before LED's windows were invented."
And, you know, my wife's boyfriend is that kind of generous. I mean he takes care of her for me. So...
I love all of your videos so much, you really make me hopeful for the future. I really mean that. You deserve way more subscribers. Videos like these should be mandatory viewing for colleges.
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You're videos are genuinely so amazing. Keep it up!
Man great presentation. Immediately subbed
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How did you generate such insaely good visuals here? This looks like a custom cad rendering or maybe a scene you built in unity/unreal. Either way its clear you're skilled. Cudos, you've rightly earned a subscriber in me.
I'm so glad I found your channel dude, your videos are always gold
Can't wait for the next video
Цей плейліст кращй за будь-яку наукову фантастику. Дуже дякую автору за приділені час та сили!
Great video! That "solar paving machine" at the end was sick AF! Love it!
Also, I really want to hear more about lunar glass manufacturing! If it turns out to be a lot easier and materials-efficient to make glass than the actual PV cells (and why not, if it's a simpler product requiring no imports?), then it might make sense to make smaller cells with glass lenses to focus the light. This would have the added benefit of increasing the temperature, if 130-150-deg. annealing of the PV cell is actually needed, and the cell would self-anneal. It would also increase the thickness of cosmic ray shielding that would damage cells in the first place. And, depending on the geometry of the glass, it might somewhat negate the issue with light angle of incidence, as each row (I'm presuming one would make these glass+PV modules in strips, rather than squares with a bubble of glass on top) would be aligned north-south and would focus the light onto the cell regardless of the time of day, thus needing no motor to track the sun. I hope I'm right, but I'm no expert on this, so maybe I'm way off base.
Ayeee it's that time of the month! I love the never stream of comedy mixed with legitimately interesting and solid educational material
The algorithm’s hapiness doesn’t matter to me, we need your videos to be widespread across the internet!
Fantastic work 👏🏼
It's really nice to be able to retreat into technical and practical considerations like this, considering what we're dealing with on a policy level nationally these days.
And you're right about that essentially unfounded pessimism and even nihilism we've endured these last 5 decades. Here's hoping we can get away from that by homesteading Luna and all its LaGrange Points!
Theres actually a third way electromagnetic tethering off the charged solar wind.
bird poop on the moon is an underappreciated environmental disaster. and the spacegulls wont stop stealing my astronaut ice cream.
My evening is saved. Awesome video.
7:23 Imagine if Patron Saint Scientist Dr. Landis saw this video.
🎉exciting whenever i get a notification about you
I used to play Aurora 4x listening to Stellardrone, which you used in this video. Great soundtrack choice!
I suspect that the best way to provide power for a lunar base, at least initially, would be a large satellite fleet beaming power down, probably via laser or microwaves. Allows for near perfect orientation to maximize the input energy and no real worries about potential use as a weapon. After that it’d make sense to begin cell production locally on the moon.
Great video, appreciate all the effort you put into researching it!
If you can make linear extruded glass/crystal lenses and prisms you can make 60% efficient PV heliostats (single axis, trough) by with 15 junctions placed in parallel thin lines, spectrum splitting parallel multi junction photovoltaics
However you need to go towards silicon or germanium plus InGaN in varying alloy compositions to tune the bandgap for each spectrum of light hitting it
loved your book, but the visuals in these videos just gives it that much more❤
Towards the ends , realised
We could use the machine from your giant excavator video and "print" the solar planels from where it stripped regolith from?kinda like it goes forward stripping and another thing or itself prints the panels !
Would be cool if you made a google doc or github repo for all this research so others can contribute and have it all centralized. Would also be able to have sources linked and all that fun stuff too.
Great one, looking forward for the other parts of lunar energy cocktail as well!
amazing video, I would suggest to leave the panel in orbit a transmit the energy to moon surface.
12:35 good to remember that this rise in Chinese support for a domestic green industry was built with industrial espionage and trade warfare as integral pieces. Sinovel is an excellent example.
Great video and big thanks to my wife's boyfriend for letting me watch and to my wife's son for telling me about this channel
I was just thinking about this problem - inspired by your vids. It’d be so impressive to see someone demo an active rover/robot on simulated lunar regolith here on earth churning out functioning cells. Had me wondering about such an apparatus operating in our major deserts on Earth, too.
On another topic - and, I’m only a fan, not an owner or affiliated with either - have you considered partnering with Brilliant or Khan Academy? Like O’Neill, your inspirational / practical material makes for great exercises for motivating & educating future STEM professionals. Kudos, yet again!
Lets go more moon development!!!
6:03 Sounds good but you don't need to see through it. You just have to have the photons pass through. Even a thin sheet of copper. I am talking nanometers can allow some light to pass through.
6:52 We may have to consider adding a mesh to the outside cover. this would be made of conductive metal. This would allow the outside cases to be polarized so they can repel dust. Which will accumulate over time. It can be set to a pulse which last about the same time you can snap your fingers. That way, the panels will be clean and it won't be a constant drain on power.
7:34 Monocrystalline would be best as it has the most stable structure.
8:11 Amazing! Did you know that was how candles were made. Only they used animal fat of course.
Luna would act basically like northern Canada. No wants to be there. Natural resources are the export. Oh and very expensive groceries.
Edit: Buttt it will have mASSive mASS drivers.
You forgot the adventure tourism market.
Canada, but with low gravity!
Hmm right there're definitely massive waves of tourists in Northern Canada
I have been patient you waiting for your to upload keep up man
Excellent and Well researched.
I would love to know how you'd establish a lunar hydrocarbon industry, smelting metals with carbonate fluxes and Fischer-Tropsch comes to mind. Plastics would be very useful in solar cell production and you could maybe kick start the whole thing with a couple barrels(plastic barrels) of petcoke and water🛢🛢+🛢🛢. Gasified together maybe by introducing them to a smelt at a 50/50 ratio by weight ( the petcoke and water), milled fine enough it could be sprayed into the furnace like a heavy oil to make a syngas which can be used to make hydrocarbons or infinitely cycled through smelts to reduce and catalysts to reform which could also be a source of oxygen, breaking CO2 and H2O to CO, H and O2. I love this channel, my mind is ablaze with ideas. Or maybe its the weed mixed with the new meds...🤔
Geothermal lunar energy.
Boring machine a few tunnels… 1 down and deep (geothermal), then a second horizontal as a habitat. Use the excavated materials as resources (iron, silicon, aluminum, etc), and the dregs as shielding.
Good video but I do want to correct the comments on prevalence of tracking PV solar here on earth. Speaking as someone who works as an engineer in the Utility-scale solar world, it is not accurate to say that tracking is only seen on older designs (at least not for single-axis tracking). The site owners are businesses seeking to make money and you get ~30% more energy generation using single axis tracking. Great strides have been made to reduce the cost of the extra infrastructure so much so that almost all MW to GW solar sites built now are single axis tracking. For lunar situations and other space-based aplications it may make less sense in a situation where you may lack the right infrastructure to do tracking or the design comlexity is not worth it compared to an “accordion” style layout with fixed tilt.
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Excellent video. Even besides creating them, the biggest problem I see is the regolith itself. My solar panels attract dust like you wouldn't believe. If I couldn't wash them off every few days they would be almost worthless. The regolith on the moon as far as I understand it is extremely abrasive and sharp in its own way. It seems like it would be a great material to use for just about everything up there, but if there isn't a way to keep the panels cleaned off then it is a moot point. The moon may not have an atmosphere like Earth does but dust still moves. You move around to clean something off, you create more dust. As the regolith is so abrasive, rubbing it off could do damaged in the long run. Water will be a very precious commodity up there. A small blast of air or gas would probably help, but would have its own issues to go along with it.
But there is no air to billow it.
31:00 Isaac Aurthur music! Excellent choice 😁
But without the ...other stuff that makes you uncomfortable giving him money.
@letsburn00 LOL I did the standard EarlyLifeCheck™️ looking for ✡️ connections. He looks clean.
Is there something I'm missing?? I actually love his channel.
@letsburn00 What stuff?
@@ajm2872 His wife made comments about how it wasn't fair that they only taught the holocaust from one perspective (i.e that Nazis and murder is bad). She's a politician and has some pretty incomprehensibly awful things. His patreon effectively funds their household.
@@letsburn00 I love him more now.
Have you considered contacting Geoffrey Landis? Your videos are very well researched, and as a researcher myself, we always enjoy seeing our research being presented well and iterated upon.
(Speaking of, if you ever need a physicist with a lot of reactor/nuclear/particle physics knowledge, I can contact you somewhere else)
@@matteodelgallo1983 yes I've talked to him :)
You wouldn't need a motor and a sensor for every panel, as long as their weighted correctly and you have belts you can do approx 100 in a line before belt efficiency gets you IIRC. I Did the math in undergrad I'll see if I can pull it up again on my computer
You’re gonna be so happy when the zero point technology in a few months. It gets rid of the whole issue of moving materials quickly or expensively not to mention generating basically infinite free energy.
Wdym in a few months lol
@@dirtypure2023 There is one born every minutes.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom A zero point energy is born every few minutes?
I would like to thank you for the effort you go to make these videos. I'm a guy who also thinks about this stuff and want to run numbers.
I would like to point out that MIT managed to make thin film solar panels with about 20grams/m^2 and about 10% efficiency. If you can deploy them at than thickness a starship V3 will be able to carry about 7500000m^2 on the moon, producing about 975MWe during daylight (i assume we need to reserve about 50 tons of the payload for CH4 to be combined with ISRU O2 to power the return trip home). However it would actually be better i think to deploy them as solar power satellites, especially if we're talking about some base on the poles because the NRHO is the closest thing you can have to lunar stationary orbit. We could then allocate 50 tons of payload to a deployable transmition system. We would get to keep 585MWe as a stable power source for the 6 out of 7 days that they spend having a direct line of sight. You deploy 7 of them in NRHO and you get about 3.5GWe on the ground 24/7. There is a lot you could do with that. If you plan to manufacture them on the surface, i think the best is to deploy them in the equator in a thin line going all around the moon. You thicken that line as you expand production.
I would also like to point out again that your faith that space expansion can happen within the profit motive framework does seem implausible. Don't let the success of SpaceX fool. There is not a bourgeoning space economy growing. If you take spacex out the picture,our progress is insignificant
Mandatory "smash that like button" to push genuinely good content alert.
My day just got so much better 🚀
Smart and funny my favorite type of content. Subbed my friend. Maybe post more links so we can go down some of these rabbit holes ourselves or you know you could just keep making more videos detailing more rabbit holes. Lol o7
You really got me with the horoscope part
Well screw my horoscope I'm gonna go learn about the physics of solar cells after this video
This guy made the playbook, we need to find him a team!
Question:
How long would one have before cleaning the panels of the dust caused by charged particles?
Compressed air to clean them off? Compressed waste o2? Electrostatic repulsion?
I don't believe it's mentioned in the video but 1 sq km of solar panels on the moon with 10% efficiency at average inclination would produce about 90 MW of electricity. So if you need 5 tons of material per sq km imported from earth and a launcher can bring 100 tons of material to the moon, that's a 2 GW powerplant per launch.
@AnthroFuturism is there potential to use and manufacture superconductors for energy transmission on the moon?
As the lunar night, might be cold enough to allow for known super conductive capable materials. and then of course shade the transmission lines during the day so they maintain there superconductivity.
As you're nailing down the processes I'm really curious about the practicalities of the actual moon factories themselves, like how you'd gather, haul, produce and place all this stuff.
Factories to process tons of material are pretty big and heavy themselves. Do we need a Factorio play and send parts to build a starter factory to build the factory to build the actual things we want?
Hah! You made an error! @7:05 : there are no birds on the Moon! Therefore your whole reasoning is on loose guano! Unsubscribed. :p
@@Rxke lmao got me!
Is there any reason titanium oxide alone is not sufficient for the top electrode?
Even if it is less efficient for some reason, not needing to import anything might make up for that.
i believe landing pads will be essential on the moon to avoid the formation of endless abrasive clouds of moondust getting kicked up
Likely, but those clouds of moon dust only last seconds, it's more how far they travel.
Probably the easiest would be to meld the entire area. The moon gets double the solar power from the sun and no air to cool stuff, so you just need a big magnifying glass to meld the ground.
You need a transparent conductor? Try tranparent aluminum. Yes the star trek stuff. Thunderf00t made some from a soda can a few years ago.
@@sethapex9670 corundum
@@Anthrofuturismnot conductive.
Thuderf00t is also a person of inflated ego that cannot stand that he is not Elon Musk
For theAlgorithm!
At this point, you might as well go for a third in this series. All the other options and a wrap-up comparison.
Saw this (the video title), and it got me curious about what effect the reduced gravity would have on the process for growing silicon ingots for IC (and solar cells) production. I don't know, but it is certainly something NASA should investigate. Amorphous solar panels are well known to not last as long. Certainly, the vacuum would make storing heat energy easier (as in a thermos). The population problem seems to be solved once industrialization happens.
Imagine a tower hotel looking out over the edge of a lunar crater, with a low gravity alien theme park & rides inside and what a swimming pool would feel like ?
Eagle one style lunar hoppers to take people on excursions after making a high leap to encircle the moon & industrial facilities might make sightseeing tours more interesting.
And a large spaceport and factory with ships preparing to fly to Mars and beyond with a statue of mr. Zubrin pointing the way 🙂
Hail dr. Landis.
Might taking advantage of the large difference between sun and shadow on the moon make for a better solution, turn heat straight to electricity via rotation ( shape memory alloy ? ) or a TEG ?
One option you didn't discuss are perovskite solar cells, which are the hot new thing here on earth. One thing that keeps them from being deployed on a large scale is their sensitivity to moisture. Not a huge issue on the Moon last I checked. However, the required materials might be hard to come by compared to silicon.
Temperature extremes also degrade them but there is ongoing research that's promising for perovskites in space. Though like I said, maybe not on the Moon.
Danke!
@@TheCatull thank you!
What about new solar technologies, like perovskite?
Are you thinking of a similar series based on mars in the future?
downloading this one before watching cuz i alr know its a banger
lets go binge watch stuff i haven't heard about you until i find that goldmine
Ngl other than gallium arsenide, or silicon n type and p type cells, there are new technologies that can allow the cell to absorb more light over different spectrums. This can obsolete the other method entirely.
Another epic video!!!