Self Healing Lichtenberg Patterns Mimic Life (High Voltage Fractals)
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I tried that experiment using cannabis oil and instead of forming branches they just formed a circle and chilled for a while.
Hahahaha that's golden. Pinning this for time being.
Yessssa
Lol that was a good one
@@PlasmaChannel Pinning it for the time being? This comment deserves the "Dooood" badge of honor!
Wait. You mean to tell me Reefer Madness lied to me?
if you use a slow setting resin as the mediating liquid, you can freeze the final structure in a resin block and keep it as art!
Maybe try a UV cure resin so the viscosity is time-independent
@@kyleboyer Exactly. Great alike think minds.
UV curing is a good idea. I was thinking of a heat cure resin, but UV cure is probably better. You’d need to check it’s electrical conductivity first though, I’ve heard that silicone is conductive before it’s cured.
@@kyleboyer I came here to say just that!
Damn, just make the same comment.
UV resin will let you choose when to cure the resin, so you can freeze it after the particles had time to link.
Was my first Idea as a possible solution too.
A distant second is hot glue on on hotplate or something...
Funny how so many of us are having this thought.
So glad he didn’t pull an action lab and just rip off the idea. He actually gave credit to the original study.
I hate action lab lmao
Yeah I have noticed that too. And there are a number of factual and logical errors in the Action lab’s videos, and his audience goes on believing it and I can’t seem to convince them otherwise of completely wrong logic.
@@noahsmith2555 do you have an example? i found those videos a bit rushed to like he didn't take the time needed to explore what is possible..
Saaaame hes cool and whatever but his entire channel exists because he created a hydraulic press channel knockoff and he jumps on every trend weeks after it was popular and never adds much
And expanded upon it. Not just copy and paste the idea.
for epoxy resin (or any other more viscous fluids) try putting the setup on a high frequency vibrating surface. That can reduce the effective viscosity to whatever level, depending on the intensive of the vibrations. A DIY ultrasonic plate with one of those 40KHz piezos might be a fun project. A rigid plate with a speaker under it might also work.
If this ends up working, it might be interesting to try this with a few pigmented epoxy mixes, and see the colours dragged along with the balls.
Also, cool stuff 👏🏼👌🏼
Damn, you intelligent. I didn’t get what you said, but it sounds cool.
But.. wouldn't the vibration help better mix the two ingredients, of the epoxy, and fasten the solidification? (I have no experience with epoxy)..
Wouldn't it be better to use only one part of the formula and just add the second part at the end and.. wait for the mixing to occur.. or use vibration at the end to mix them?..
Perhaps you mean 24-hour epoxy resin?
@@MyChrisable I was thinking of either epoxy with a longer curing time, or perhaps UV curing resin (like the ones used in resin 3d printers).
@@netroy ooooh! Yes, that makes more sense! Thank you.
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And in today’s News : “Man dies by passing high voltage electricity though his tiny balls .” Lol. Cool vid. I wanna see a follow up with larger spheres .
Bruh, that's amazing. I think UV curing resins would work great for this casting
Just as I predicted from your post on Instagram, good work jay, you're my inspiration love and respect from India
Thank you. I really appreciate that. Greetings from USA.
Funny thing as soon as I saw it I had the same idea of yours: to try to do it with epoxy resin instead; the reason it does not work seems to be that the epoxy is actually conductive (I mean much more so than the oil, because of the free radicals reactions probably) but I've got you covered: Alkyd resins, basically highly unsaturated oil e.g. linseed oil plus a metallic complex that works as a hardener.
Another method would be using melted paraffin instead of Castor oil (of course you would have to do the experiment with a heated bed but it should be easy to pull out this trick...).
yeah conductivity was my guess as well. I'd say try it with paraffin and just heat it with hot air. It might also just stay liquid long enough without re-heating. Not sure how clear paraffin can get even if you use pure clear stuff though.
@@Basement-Science There are some candles that are transparent, search for something like "Gel candle", I believe it is actually a mixture of an oil and a polymer, it would look amazing. Another thing that I thought of was to use spheres made out of low melting point alloy and as the electric current passes through them if they melt just at the right rate you could and up with a root like threads :-)
Ah! Yes, that was exactly the issue. The resin was conductive, and it just shorted out my power source. I'll look into Alkyd resins, if they are not conductive, that's amazing. I'll try this, then give you credit for the idea.
Cheers!
This is great! This can totally be translated to the fascia that continues to remodel itself based on all sorts of EMFs and electrical inputs. Can totally visualize how this connective tissue living matrix is our body's electrical wiring/communication system. It's already been determined that electrical messages sent along this system are way faster than the nervous system but now I can image how our fascia "rewires" itself to be in the most conductive pattern. Thanks!!
He’s the type of guy to- *oh no wait this is actually good content*
Hi Jay! Besides the scientific content your videos contain the best shots, beautiful arrangements that give an artistic touch the whole. This is why i love your videos so much! Best regards!
This is so nice to see. It really looks alive!
I think that in the long tray setup it will make one long line (with some small branches).
Thank you for showing this!
Hey Kian! You were pretty darn close. Crazy how alive it looks.
I would like to see the long branch experiment done with ball bearings starting from both the cathode and the anode. I expect you would see the beads extending from both ends , just like how a Lichtenberg pattern forms on wood, with the ball bearings meeting up somewhere in the middle to form the path of least resistance. This may also extend the maximum branch length you can achieve.
Haha I knew that you will replicate this strange yet amazing experiment... Best regards from Philippines👋👍
I wonder if this is how our nerves find each other again after being severed?
This is how self repair tech works. It takes very little more for the parts to search out specific construcrion materials. This tech has been weaponised, and is nearly unstoppable, even to the creators of such tech
Absolutely amazing. And fantastically delivered as always 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you, Mike
I was beginning to doubt you'd have enough balls but you came through. Way to go!
Wow! That’s incredible and fascinating. Look at how the different viscosity of the oils slow down the result. A great replication of the original experiment. Thanks Jay for demonstrating this. Epic! 😀
Thanks roger!
Brilliant work Jay ☺️, amazing videos as always! Keep up the awesome work.
Thanks a ton!
Love from India🇮🇳🇮🇳
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This is awesome, makes me really wonder what would happen if you coupled this, with Cymatics, the intricate patterns and fractals it could produce would be interesting to see..
You do such a decent work in the field of HV phenomenon I'm amazed
Thank
Hi Jay, nice video and you always made my day with your videos. Btw can you add an interrupter circuit on your flame discharge tesla coil it would be really awsome.
Thanks for your time and effort.
Thank you for watching!
ideas popping into mind faster than process them amazing
Imagine this being a betting game, in which you bet on a marble that you think is going to touch the other end first. Or like multiple colours and bet whats the colour that of the marble that touches first as well. Lol
The payout on that gamble game would be insane. Like 1000X
Someone’s been watching too much Kakegurui lately
This was my first time seeing something like this and as a metal refiner and electroplater, I really enjoyed this 🤝 ⚡🎛⚡🎛⚡
Hi Jason, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video. What was the most interesting part for you?
Full credit to you Jay, of all the videos covering this subject that I have seen so far, yours wins the prize, hands down 👍👍👍
Thank you Grandad! I didn't know that you'd seen the other videos. I loved shooting this video. I, very seriously, lost my mind when I first turned on the power source.
@@PlasmaChannel Only since the Electroboom video, hadn't heard of it before that. I saw his first, then checked out to see what he was talking about, and like I say, yours wins for presentation and explanation, for me 😆 (Maybe I am biased).
For the epoxy, if you keep it heated so its less viscous and use slow curing epoxy/less hardener you could probably get that to work pretty well
Use automotive clear coat with different % variations of reducer for thickness and of coarse you will need hardener to activate it so it solidifies.
2:47 as soon as the bearing hit the wall, it looks like the center of the bearings pile pulsates like a heart twice! please lok at it it's beautiful
This what you show here, seems really much like that principle I described about oak and linden trees and their response towards high voltage and magnetic fields.
this was a principle came to my attention after reading a book about how trees respond to magnetic influences by a biologist who had also specialized in druidism. back then I also worked with trees regularly, and high voltage as well. so that caused me to test the response of not only magnetic fields on trees, but also of the high voltage effects on trees. more recently I started looking towards the effects of magnetic fields on static electricity, and that showed that they seem quite much linked, this as well in the growth of trees so in simple terms: there tends to be either a stronger, or a weaker ionic energy on places where the earth's magnetic field lines are stronger or weaker, this depends on the polarity..
Great Experimentation 👍
To balance charge and being positively charged to start with, the B/Bs will be collecting electrons from the cathode, through the oil. As they do so each B/B will then become a little magnet and so allow the chains to form, to fully connect the circuit.
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By gravity surface tension and attenuation in emf the pioneer individual balls stop short to the finish line. To let this continue without cranking up the emf, consider a vibration table with vertical displacement.
WOW amazing love this
I think this is similar in principle to mitosis spindle fibers. Some variations to try would be to 1) alternate positive and negative poles in some frequency; 2) use a moving connection on one end or both ends; 3) see how magnetic fields interact; 4) try doing this in a tube or shape with volume like a sphere.
4:37 - Wow, those look like crawling worms!!
Nice video!
Right? Thank you
Good Channel, very interesting. Good luck Jason, keep up the good work. The UK thinks you're great.
Thanks 👍
It's similar to electrophoresis where we add a high voltage to separate proteins and nucleic acids but using oil instead of agarose/polyacrylamide.
This one was giving me goose bumps...wow!...
Always intrigued!
I used to play with flyback transformers, until someone told me that it creates too much dangerous ozone.
This is the same patterns we see in outer space and in our brains and hearts.
A mazing.
You could try UV activated resin to capture the ball bearings in their final position, that's if the resin is non conductive of course ;)
I think it's great that you had the BALLS to do this experiment.
This channel is not just fire, it’s plasma! 🔥
Fabulous as always thank you Jay.
Jay you must mix silicon and bismuth powder insert the mix into a straw and charge.
If patents are correct it will make magic.
Claims of superconductivity at ambient room temperature are made.
Interesting! Never heard of that. I'll take a gander at this.
@@PlasmaChannel take a look;
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This looks similar to veins forming in the human body as the fetus forms in the womb. Just like your description of the roots of plants.
Nature is an amazing thing and as you pointed out, the patterns are artistic.
Glad you appreciate it Steve
Very interesting.
It kinda reminds me os the self healing/ repairing metal. That was supposedly found with wreckage of a crash that we where told never happened.
I was literally thinking about casting in epoxy for most of the video, and right at the end there, you got to it. The only thing I could suggest there would be to use a thinner epoxy with a longer open/ working time. The stuff they use for counter tops and floors would probably work better than standard epoxy resin.
Are there temperature or light activated epoxies? If so, that would give "infinite" open time. I know you can keep it at ca. 5 deg. Celsius to delay curing, but the viscosity is likely to be high in that case.
an interesting thing to try would be to use ferrofluids of different sorts. Also, perhaps you could embed conductive powder in part one of a resin, and nothing in the other, then wherever it grows towards, it would harden.
They simply try to form a connection with the least resistance. You make it sound so mysterious.
makes me wonder if cells or neurons grow in the same method, searching for a connection
I'm a massage therapist specializing in myofascial unwinding and this reminds me of what happens in the bodies that I work on unwinding where the body heals itself and self corrects.
Well done. You do experiments way more professional than the others. I really enjoyed it.
And about resin, maybe UV resin works. 😎
I really appreciate that, thank you.
Thanks I made a plasma flame generator by seeing your video ,it was so amazing that I love it, I built mine by some mathematical formulas ,I want to ask that can I change 100 pF 2kv wima capacitor with a ceramic capacitor and what what is the minimum current and voltage I put to the circuit at which it produce very small arc or flame because I want to test my circuit at the lowest voltage and current and amazing video as usual, love your videos.
Brilliant!
You might try warming up the epoxy, (i.e. microwaving works nicely, but reduce the hardener slightly so you have enough working time).
Good luck.
Thanks, I actually tried that! Turns out, epoxy is mildly conductive when fluid. My Van De Graaff was getting shorted out when running through liquid epoxy. Thats why it failed for me.
I'm not a physics guy but you really deserved the subscribe for such amazing Videos , greetings from Egypt
Thank you very much for the kind words. I’m happy to have you in the Plasma Fam! Greetings from USA.
Awsome I thought I had been subscribed this whole time. I am for sure subscribed now!
Glad to have you on board!
This is kinda what happens in the thunderstrike process. A stream like charge branches out exactly like observed here towards ground and once reached the lighting flash / sudden energy transfer occurs
Years ago, i spent many days on my porch staring at the trees in my front yard, and came to the very scientific conclusion(sarcasm) that the branches, similar to the little metal balls, branch out and grow into the troughs of an electromagnetic field. Also interestingly, i remember something about pointed tips being the best way for electrical current to pass mediums. Every plant, branch, leaf, tree terminates with pointed tips. Even more interestingly, their tree bark is similar to our skin, in that it is an insulator(electrically), while inside the tree, the carbon ect is conductive. I imagine its grounded in the earth, and through induction(idk if that's the right word) it is internalizing electromagnetic radiation from the shuman cavity(highly charged/ ionized layer of our atmosphere).
I searched for research on this, and never really found anything detailed on this. But your video, seems to be showing the same principle.
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please try it using some powdered magnet in oil
Cool stuff . Will be interesting to experiment with.
Hey 55Ramius! Yeah, give it a try. Very cheap - the ball bearings I think were 4-6 dollars on Amazon.
@plasma channel - for freezing this fractals you could try using molten wax as fluid and then freezing it or using hotglue bath and keeping it hot till the path closes and then freezing it...just some thoughts
Might work
Moin,
What happens if you change the polarity (change the electrodes) shortly before the cycle is closed? Would the change be so immediately, that no movement is visible, or would you see a short repelling motion before the charged ball bearings align again?
Keep up the amazing content.
The movement is like something that belongs in a sci fi horror movie.
high quality video as always!
and you didn't forget the acrylic glass :^)
is it possible that they assemble themselves vertical?
Acrylic to the moon and back my man. As per assembling vertically.....hm..i'll experiment. If I shoot a video on it, you'll get a shoutout.
This is fascinating to me. I remember the Stanford video saying that there was a correlation between this phenomena and tree-branching? There really should be some deep underlying links between the biology and fundamental forces. I also wonder how some of the other systems of providing high-voltage DC would work for this.
It's my suspicion that current is the limiting factor to make this work. Likely with a higher current power source, it could be made larger.
Try using extra slow hardener for the epoxy next time. Also, you can thin it out with some solvent if needed.
Incredible!!
Amazing! But can you do that with light and crystal salts now? Crystal salts that grows such as silver crystals or copper sulfate?
can you try using someting deeper and have the negative in the bottom using high viscous oil and really fine powder metal and also mixed metals. i read somewhere that silver makes simlar traces but in the ground.
cheers!
This needs to be done in Acrylic resin.
[edit:] HA!!! I typed that literally with less than 15-30 seconds thinking the video was over then you immediately stated you tried as though I got an instant answer to my question. Cool
UV Resin can maybe help with the secure of the branches. It takes longer to harden out without UV light.
That was very interesting. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching
Great Job Jay! At 6:41, do you think that the oil dielectric is just insulating charge (basic insulator) or does the dielectric provide in other ways that would take too much time to explain...and maybe creep outside the accepted "charge carrier" electricity theory?
I'm a bit late to this one again (gotta get better at that!)
As others have suggested, possibly try a slow cure or UV cure resin to delay the time to cure to allow the chains to form. And as it seems that the conductivity seems to be an issue at the high voltages, if you used a different power source or experimented with voltage and current levels to see how each affects the speed of reaction in a test case in one of the oils, maybe you could dial in the best combination to lower the voltage or current, so they move in the epoxy, but not so low that the reaction doesn't occur?
Also, as others have suggested, a slight vibration plate could help. (I would say a random orbit sander or reciprocating saw without the blade, make good cheap ones (people use with resins and silicones to get air bubbles out) but they might be too aggressive for this use case.
All that being said, this video was awesome!!!
Hey justin! Thanks man, yeah im going to experiment with UV resin. I really hope it works. Not sure about vibrating it though.
@@PlasmaChannel I just rewatched the video. Another idea I had for experiments with resin, if you figure out a voltage/current setting that works with resin, if going slow, you could do like you did in the beginning and move the ground closer to the positive (you did this with your finger in the video) to make the bearings move a bit faster/more. You could even do this by just moving the wire fence closer to the other side and as it grows move back to the far end
Thought this might help if you find that the only way to make resin not become too conductive is to lower the voltage/current so far the effect doesn't work very well. Might be a way to get around that.
To preserve, perhaps try an appropriate UV activated Resin? Flashing it after completion of the experiment. The voltage may or may not cause the resin too activate though heating. We know that dental uv resins can stay in liquid state at body temperature. I suspect however the resin would impede current flow driving the metal beads to alter their polarity and form the chains. Good video, tickles the brain.
I love you high voltage videos.
as always awesome video! with the resin did it just not spread at all? or did the resin just set too quickly?
Thank you! The epoxy was actually a bit conductive when liquid. Which was surprising. So, the balls didn't move an inch.
@@PlasmaChannel it would be interesting to see if you could find an epoxy that isn’t conductive. I think the ball bearing traces would look pretty cool in resin. But I guess you thought the same hence why you tried it.
Maybe some circuit board potting resin. I’m not sure if they make that in clear tho.
1:00 "This Stanford experiment is cool enough that it has actually inspired several people to do their own spins on it"
_Oh no_
Looks Interesting!
I've read that plants will follow electric fields, greens oppose the direction and roots follow it. Can't help but wonder if they follow the same mechanism which also helps them head toward water (different relative permittivity and conductivity). Thanks for sharing
@6:10 ish actually the mineral oil is being pushed, creating flows ... super cool.
hm wonder where i saw this
Definitely not electroboom lol
Very cool tho that you go into a deeper explnation of things thats what i like about you keep it up!
These appear to make structures very similar to the chasms, valleys, hills, "hollers", and mountain ranges on both Earth and other planets. Very interesting.
Well its about time! I was worried about you for a moment! Good to see you are still posting awesome videos.
Respectfully,
Jay#1
Dear Jay#2, I am touched that you would care so deeply for me (Jay #1).
I post videos once every 3 weeks or so (on occasion every 2 weeks, sometimes once a month). Make sure you've got your notifications turned on! :P
4:33 It's hard to say, I'm just now learning about this... I think it'll make it, eventually haha.
Great video Jay! Would anything at all happen if you were to apply Alternating Current to it?
Nice guess. I dont think AC will work, but, one viewer claimed it works with AC
Very interesting seems to be a common thing in nature root growth ocean waves etc depending on viscosity of liquid. Just a thought.
Nice work👍 Jay keep going....
Very clean 👌
Thank you!
Your creations are pretty nice. Btw can you add a transistor and audio input device with it to your previously made Tesla coil to make it a musical Tesla coil? That will be an awesome creation.
I don't know how resistant waxes are but the high voltage would create a lot of heat right- I've been doing a lot of research into waxes with high temp melting point and when you asked if we had any ideas on how to create a "frozen picture" : Camphor Oil and carnauba a wax and camphore oil combo might work and just harden to a solid when done.
I wonder if you had multiple routes to ground with varying resistance if you could sort of recreate the tokyo subway map thing they did with slime molds to show how clever they are about gathering resources efficiently.
Hey man, what are your views on eels and other electric organisms? Are humans going to evolve to be able to sense electronic fields and if so could we speed up this ability sooner
Well, everything I wanted you to try, you already did. Different oils, resin plus acrylic.
Was actually thinking when are you going to feature this experiment.
You can also try molten transparent wax as the medium to hold the final pattern. But the viscosity of molten wax may not be suitable for this experiment.
Hey Tarun! So, I could try the wax...but it needs to really be transparent. It was a total letdown not having the Epoxy work, because it's so crystal clear.
It would be interesting to see what pattern out there when there limited balls to complete a direct link end to end bridging the total separation of electrodes.
Will we see evenly spaced solitude individuals distribution or short section of ball links by the positive electrode ?
Try epoxy infusion resin: low viscosity used for vacuum molding composites.