Head Dampening Update (28:55): After test flying with the softer dual o-ring head dampening arrangement, I decided to try using the hard inner dampeners with the softer outer o-ring dampeners as per the manual. No cyclic nodding or bobbing detectable at low head speeds, so it seems to work fine mixing the hardness.
Thank you for the hundreds of videos over the last decade. On this video ….. what a nice idea to give a review of each step. Your engineering setup and attention to detail is fantastic. I thought I was going mad spending the time to set everything up just right with shims, lube and lock-tight. But that’s what it takes to do it right.
The kbar units work great , mikado are getting very upset and trying to get retailers here in the Uk to report people for using them lol! Great video and want to get one ! I got the x360 combo and it is so so much fun . I have also ordered k bars for my kds models . Thanks for posting
Thanks again for the manual finished the build. Now I'm having problems downloading the drivers for the mini Kbar system. How did you solve that problem. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Please consider doing a review of the ALZRC X360 (not X380 they are two different helicopters). Bare airframe is around $90 and uses a lot of plastic with CF frame sides to keep the price down. Head has plastic grips with an aluminum hub.
Hey john, thanks for the cool build/review Video. How is it about spare parts with this Helicopter? Do parts from original SAB-Goblin fit? espacially the tail boom could be hard to replace somehow,
Sorry, no idea on how well SAB parts might or might not fit it; I've only purchased a few parts for it over the past two years, and they were all ALZRC parts. I had no problem ordering the parts from Banggood (where I purchased the heli from), and I've also seen ALZRC parts on ebay. No idea what other hobby shops might also carry ALZRC since I've never looked.
Some parts from SAB fit fine, some don't. I can tell you that the SAB canopies fit, not sure about tail boom. It looks the same to me but I haven't tried it. I have tried tail parts and the pitch arms are different ball size so you have to replace balls. I wound up just replacing the whole tail assembly with a Goblin 500 tail. It fits the ALZRC shaft fine. I'd like to try to find a list (or start my own) of compatible items. I have both a G500 and this. As time allows, I'll try various parts and post a list somewhere.
Hello, just finish the assembly of mine. When going through the FBL unit setup, if I put a BLS servo for the tail (760µs, 333Mhz) like you did, it doesn't work with my alzrc bls2036t. I mean, the servo is not responding correctly, I must put the cursor to the max and the servo doesn't repond smoothly and correctly. One the other hand, when I put "s9254, etc." for tail servo in vbar software (1520µs, 333Mhz), it works correctly. Don't you think it weird ?
You mentioned having to secure the flange bearings in the main gear hub with retainer, but not the one-way bearing...? The flange bearings on my D380 hub resisted removal without tools so I didn't try harder to pull them, but it seems ensuring the one-way is properly retained would be most critical as that's how torque is transmitted from the gear to the bearing. I guess if I can hold the head and torque the gear with moderate force by hand without slippage, it's good to go...? Likewise, I'm wondering whether I should try to pull bearings from the swash to add retainer or just settle for thread-locking the screws. ALZRC's own build video does not show securing any bearings with retainer, but the manual does. Great videos - thanks for sharing. I originally learned FFF on CP helis with help from your RCHelicopterFun site 8 years ago!
One way bearings are press press fit in to the gear hubs - lots of force - so no need to remove it and refit it with retaining compound unless you have a press and want to make more work. You'll know if the auto-bearing ever start slipping as the heli will begin to "scream" in flight under high disc loading. I don't have any working experience with the D380 so no idea on the swashplate.
Hey John. I started flying helo's in the late 70's-early80's then stopped flying for about 20 years. I just watched your video on the Hobby Wing ESC with the programing device. I'm just curious about your linear throttle setting. I mostly use Castle ESC and their govenor mode works well, but in the past on my Schluter helo's and XCELL 60 and PRO helo's I did not use any govenor at all. Is that what you are doing. Hope this makes sense?
Hi Chuck, Correct - no governor. I always want linear throttle response in the ESC so I have 1:1 speed control on every fresh build. This is to simplify both initial setup and testing of the heli at various RPMS by simply and quickly modifying my flat line throttle curves. After all, electric motors are by their very nature self governing. Nothing like an ICE engine that bogs down under rotor loading and/or over-speeds when unloaded. An electric motor on the other hand just draws more or less current under load and unload and maintains a very static speed (presuming a healthy battery and strong motor). A flat line throttle curve will therefor produce almost as consistent a head speed as running governor on an electric other than the slight RPM sag as the voltage sags during the fight or when really mismanaging cyclic and collective energy. As I'm not a hard 3D'er, I rarely run into those envelopes. I actually run flat line throttle curves without governor on most of my electrics even after initial flight testing, other than scale ones. With scale I do find governor does help a little bit to ensure the head speeds never match the natural resonance frequency/s of the fuselage as the voltage decays during a flight. No question if you have a specific head speed in mind that you know you want to run at, it's certainly easier and quicker to just dial that number into the ESC governor setup over experimenting with various flat line throttle curves and then looking at the post flight data log or optical taching the rotor. In short, use what works best for your specific machine and situation.
Hi John, After watching several of your videos. I got myself two ALZRC 505 & X380 helicopters. Also got RadioLink 10ii. But the helicopter didn’t come with Kbar, it comes with TGZ580 and I have hard time getting the helicopter to function properly. Look on RUclips and there is no instructions on how to program the controller. Is there a tutorial or link for me to set up this helicopter. I’m old school and can set up helicopter for the one with fly bare. This will be my first FBL system and I’m having trouble setting it up.
Sorry, never heard of that FBL system. If they don't have a website with downloadable instructions and setup wizard, I can't offer any advice other than getting a well established and supported FBL system and then stick with it moving forward. That is why most of us get used to one or two systems and stick with them because learning a new FBL system is a lot of work, sucks a lot of time and usually takes many flights before we fully trust the system. I'm a Bavarian Demon 3X and Ikon fan-boy myself, but we all have our own preferences. 🙂
Totally depends on which of FrSky's protocol you are running and what type and connectivity option you intend to use with whatever flybarless system you will be running with it (ie s-bus or normal PWM cable loom connectivity).
The lockdown has been the opportunity to go back to rc hobby, I stopped for 25 years and now we have too many products on the market, not easy. I bought the jumper 18 pro multi protocol, maybe the choice is about more capabilities than the specific protocol ? Btw, I just started to read your ebook about setup & tips, maybe it will be clearer after that :)
Nice build! I just build the ALZRC 380! Haven’t flown it yet though . Can someone tell me if it is possible to switch from head and hold to rate mode n the mini KBar, I am using the RadioMaster opentx and I tried everything I can think of and the gyro is always in head and hold mode
Very different helicopters by size and price so it's not an apples to apples comparison. Comparing it with an SAB Goblin 500 Sport (since that's what it clones) would be more apples to apples. Regardless, I have no first hand building or flying experience with a Raptor e700 V2, so I'm not the person to ask on how it compares to an ALZRC 505.
If that's the size and type of heli you are looking for (belt drive Goblin clone), then yes, for the price, ALZRC makes a decent 500 size electric heli IMO. I give more thoughts about it during the first test video: ruclips.net/video/gfHs9ovoGkk/видео.html
Newbie question,John. When u use the receiver satellites, don’t need to install the main receiver?Just connect the satellites to K-bar and thats it? If yes, RXA/RXB/RXC connection goes to where? I am planning to use the JR RD921 satellite receiver only.
When using DSM2/X satellites (pulse position modulation method) with any FBL system that supports them, you don't also need a full function RX (pulse width modulation method), just the Satellite or Satellite x2. I cover this in much more detail on my FBL page under the connectivity heading: www.rchelicopterfun.com/flybarless.html My page on RX antenna placement may also be helpful: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-antenna.html By the way, the JR RD921 is a full function 9 channel RX, not a satellite RX.
@@Rchelicopterfun You said you were not using governor of the Kbar? Do you usually fly with ESC governor? Mine came with the Hobbywing V4 (ALZRC X360), not sure if I should set ESC governor? Yours seems to have a nice soft start.
I like your videos mate, they are thorough with heaps of information. The heli itself is very tempting considering the price. The only thing that's holding me back to buy this heli is that the ALZRC is new and I'm not sure about spare parts supply in future. As you know lots of these small companies came in the market and left the market less than a year or two leaving you with a heli with no spare parts. What's your thoughts on this one? Cheers.
I first heard of ALZRC back in 2014 so they are not "new" and the 505 specifically, was introduced 4 years ago so not less than a "year or two" but I suspect that was a hyperbolic statement. However, what you described is not limited to ALZRC; it's a systemic problem no mater what brand. Strike that, it's a systemic problem with our endless growth profit driven & massively wasteful society. In the world of RC helicopters, it's actually these smaller boutique brands lately that keep their models around longer (and thus parts support for them) because they don't have massive R&D budgets to keep pumping out new models every few months. No matter what brand and model you get, it's a crap shoot if there will parts for it outside of 3 to 5 years these days. IMO, Bergen, Minatare Aircraft, and Vario would be the best best if you want long term parts support (at least here in North America).
Too small (unless you wan't really short flight times). They recommend 4500mAh as ideal, with a 4000 to 5000 mAh range listed. My 5000 are just a whisker too big, that's why I fly with the 4000's I had. Get about 7 minutes gentle, 5 minutes sport.
I just tried it using the 505 manual download button on ALZRC's download page (from the link I have in the description box), and you're right; the download times out & is not working. Maybe they are doing site maintenance right now? Must be some other sources for the 505 PDF with a little google searching, but if you can't find one, or ALZRC's download on their site is still not working in a day or two, contact me through my website: www.rchelicopterfun.com/contact.html and I'll attach a PDF of the 505 manual I have.
@chris vann - the tail servo works fine at 333Hz. You're confusing the refresh rate (333Hz), with the centering pulse length position 760us (microseconds). www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-servos.html
Sir you are a genius my wish in the future is to buy a zlrc 360x helicopter and mount it myself how many hours to work on his request I find his stakes magnificent to mount but I am very very scared (in any case thank you for your video
Hi john, I am new to rc heli's but have been practicing with the blade 70s and xk k110 for the last 3 months. sim aswwell. I am on a bit of a budget (I know that doesnt usually go hand in hand with this hobby) but thats how it is haha. I have been reading and researching and have been drawn towards the tarot 450 pro v2 kit. I have built rc car kits and i am mechanically minded so i feel although it may be a challenge, i am up for it. You mention somthing in your unboxing video about no dfc. The tarot comes in tw versions, i was wondering what your advice would be on whether to get the dfc or just the pro v2 kit? Kind regards Mark
I'm personally not a fan of DFC heads, but on smaller helicopters (450 and under) their short comings are not as problematic; and on micro sizes (250 and under) they make lots of design and functionality sense due to small head block sizes. I cover potential DFC issues on my website on the DFC page: www.rchelicopterfun.com/DFC.html As for which Tarot 450 to get, I would choose the one that's the best price. As I mentioned, 450's are right around the size where the issues of DFC become less of a problem so I don't think you would be disappointed with either version. With all that said, I still fly an 800E with a DFC head and have never had any issues, but I keep a close eye on the DFC arms and head dampeners as I don't fully trust the system. I'm also not a hard 3D pilot. If I were, I would have gotten rid of DFC head on that machine as soon as Align offered a conventional washout head.
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Head Dampening Update (28:55): After test flying with the softer dual o-ring head dampening arrangement, I decided to try using the hard inner dampeners with the softer outer o-ring dampeners as per the manual. No cyclic nodding or bobbing detectable at low head speeds, so it seems to work fine mixing the hardness.
what radio are you using?
@@annbond8317 FrSky Horus X12S.
Thank you for the hundreds of videos over the last decade. On this video ….. what a nice idea to give a review of each step. Your engineering setup and attention to detail is fantastic. I thought I was going mad spending the time to set everything up just right with shims, lube and lock-tight. But that’s what it takes to do it right.
Glad it was helpful 🙂
It definitely has style, One of the best looking models for the price.
I love building helis as well, flying coming second. Great video! I just did my first unboxing of the Goblin 380 Buddy..
The kbar units work great , mikado are getting very upset and trying to get retailers here in the Uk to report people for using them lol! Great video and want to get one ! I got the x360 combo and it is so so much fun . I have also ordered k bars for my kds models . Thanks for posting
nice video, looking forward to her first flight.
looks like a cracking heli for the money i can't wait to get one.
Great Video, helped me a lot. A part where you show the wiring of the esc, flybarless unit and motor would be cool, for those newbees. ;)
Thanks John, great vid and nice heli
Thanks again for the manual finished the build. Now I'm having problems downloading the drivers for the mini Kbar system. How did you solve that problem. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Please consider doing a review of the ALZRC X360 (not X380 they are two different helicopters). Bare airframe is around $90 and uses a lot of plastic with CF frame sides to keep the price down. Head has plastic grips with an aluminum hub.
0:20 building a heli is a lot of fun especially when it flies like a bird on the first test flight!
Hey john, thanks for the cool build/review Video. How is it about spare parts with this Helicopter? Do parts from original SAB-Goblin fit? espacially the tail boom could be hard to replace somehow,
Sorry, no idea on how well SAB parts might or might not fit it; I've only purchased a few parts for it over the past two years, and they were all ALZRC parts. I had no problem ordering the parts from Banggood (where I purchased the heli from), and I've also seen ALZRC parts on ebay. No idea what other hobby shops might also carry ALZRC since I've never looked.
Some parts from SAB fit fine, some don't. I can tell you that the SAB canopies fit, not sure about tail boom. It looks the same to me but I haven't tried it. I have tried tail parts and the pitch arms are different ball size so you have to replace balls. I wound up just replacing the whole tail assembly with a Goblin 500 tail. It fits the ALZRC shaft fine. I'd like to try to find a list (or start my own) of compatible items. I have both a G500 and this. As time allows, I'll try various parts and post a list somewhere.
Hello, just finish the assembly of mine. When going through the FBL unit setup, if I put a BLS servo for the tail (760µs, 333Mhz) like you did, it doesn't work with my alzrc bls2036t. I mean, the servo is not responding correctly, I must put the cursor to the max and the servo doesn't repond smoothly and correctly. One the other hand, when I put "s9254, etc." for tail servo in vbar software (1520µs, 333Mhz), it works correctly. Don't you think it weird ?
Thank you very much 😊🎉
Very concise and helpful John. Will be a huge help when I hopefully get mine!
You mentioned having to secure the flange bearings in the main gear hub with retainer, but not the one-way bearing...? The flange bearings on my D380 hub resisted removal without tools so I didn't try harder to pull them, but it seems ensuring the one-way is properly retained would be most critical as that's how torque is transmitted from the gear to the bearing. I guess if I can hold the head and torque the gear with moderate force by hand without slippage, it's good to go...? Likewise, I'm wondering whether I should try to pull bearings from the swash to add retainer or just settle for thread-locking the screws. ALZRC's own build video does not show securing any bearings with retainer, but the manual does. Great videos - thanks for sharing. I originally learned FFF on CP helis with help from your RCHelicopterFun site 8 years ago!
One way bearings are press press fit in to the gear hubs - lots of force - so no need to remove it and refit it with retaining compound unless you have a press and want to make more work. You'll know if the auto-bearing ever start slipping as the heli will begin to "scream" in flight under high disc loading. I don't have any working experience with the D380 so no idea on the swashplate.
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks, John. Seems all good. Just wanted a second opinion. Appreciate the input.
"Oh yeah that was the right switch"
I'm dead🤣
Looks like a SAB 570 clone. I might try one.. thanks for sharing
Clone 500
Hey John. I started flying helo's in the late 70's-early80's then stopped flying for about 20 years. I just watched your video on the Hobby Wing ESC with the programing device. I'm just curious about your linear throttle setting. I mostly use Castle ESC and their govenor mode works well, but in the past on my Schluter helo's and XCELL 60 and PRO helo's I did not use any govenor at all. Is that what you are doing. Hope this makes sense?
Hi Chuck, Correct - no governor. I always want linear throttle response in the ESC so I have 1:1 speed control on every fresh build. This is to simplify both initial setup and testing of the heli at various RPMS by simply and quickly modifying my flat line throttle curves.
After all, electric motors are by their very nature self governing. Nothing like an ICE engine that bogs down under rotor loading and/or over-speeds when unloaded. An electric motor on the other hand just draws more or less current under load and unload and maintains a very static speed (presuming a healthy battery and strong motor).
A flat line throttle curve will therefor produce almost as consistent a head speed as running governor on an electric other than the slight RPM sag as the voltage sags during the fight or when really mismanaging cyclic and collective energy. As I'm not a hard 3D'er, I rarely run into those envelopes.
I actually run flat line throttle curves without governor on most of my electrics even after initial flight testing, other than scale ones. With scale I do find governor does help a little bit to ensure the head speeds never match the natural resonance frequency/s of the fuselage as the voltage decays during a flight.
No question if you have a specific head speed in mind that you know you want to run at, it's certainly easier and quicker to just dial that number into the ESC governor setup over experimenting with various flat line throttle curves and then looking at the post flight data log or optical taching the rotor. In short, use what works best for your specific machine and situation.
@@Rchelicopterfun thanks for the reply John. I think I will go back to old school on one of my electrics just to experiment
Hi John,
After watching several of your videos. I got myself two ALZRC 505 & X380 helicopters. Also got RadioLink 10ii. But the helicopter didn’t come with Kbar, it comes with TGZ580 and I have hard time getting the helicopter to function properly. Look on RUclips and there is no instructions on how to program the controller. Is there a tutorial or link for me to set up this helicopter.
I’m old school and can set up helicopter for the one with fly bare. This will be my first FBL system and I’m having trouble setting it up.
Sorry, never heard of that FBL system. If they don't have a website with downloadable instructions and setup wizard, I can't offer any advice other than getting a well established and supported FBL system and then stick with it moving forward. That is why most of us get used to one or two systems and stick with them because learning a new FBL system is a lot of work, sucks a lot of time and usually takes many flights before we fully trust the system. I'm a Bavarian Demon 3X and Ikon fan-boy myself, but we all have our own preferences. 🙂
As always very nice video and talk :)
I am planning to build a 380 size and I wonder what kind of receiver we have to choose in the frsky collection ?
Totally depends on which of FrSky's protocol you are running and what type and connectivity option you intend to use with whatever flybarless system you will be running with it (ie s-bus or normal PWM cable loom connectivity).
The lockdown has been the opportunity to go back to rc hobby, I stopped for 25 years and now we have too many products on the market, not easy. I bought the jumper 18 pro multi protocol, maybe the choice is about more capabilities than the specific protocol ?
Btw, I just started to read your ebook about setup & tips, maybe it will be clearer after that :)
Hey John I noticed that you have used medium sized cyclic servos on this heli. Do you see any problem with using full size standard servos?
Yes, a big problem - standard swash servos won't fit; it's just a 500 size machine after all. It does however use a standard size tail servo.
Nice build! I just build the ALZRC 380! Haven’t flown it yet though . Can someone tell me if it is possible to switch from head and hold to rate mode n the mini KBar, I am using the RadioMaster opentx and I tried everything I can think of and the gyro is always in head and hold mode
Building helis is like Therapy
perfect vid as always... I've a question, what you think will be better heli, this devil 505 fast or raptor e700 v2? thank you
Very different helicopters by size and price so it's not an apples to apples comparison. Comparing it with an SAB Goblin 500 Sport (since that's what it clones) would be more apples to apples. Regardless, I have no first hand building or flying experience with a Raptor e700 V2, so I'm not the person to ask on how it compares to an ALZRC 505.
John Salt ok then, at overall you think it’s a worth and good quality this 505? Thanks
If that's the size and type of heli you are looking for (belt drive Goblin clone), then yes, for the price, ALZRC makes a decent 500 size electric heli IMO. I give more thoughts about it during the first test video: ruclips.net/video/gfHs9ovoGkk/видео.html
John Salt thank you, I’ll watch it now
@@Rchelicopterfun ok great vid... you think the Scorpion HK-4015-1070KV will work well for this 505? thanks
Parts for my heli are not longer being sold. What can I do to replace them, the auxiliary axis is wore out, its a 500 size class?
Newbie question,John. When u use the receiver satellites, don’t need to install the main receiver?Just connect the satellites to K-bar and thats it? If yes, RXA/RXB/RXC connection goes to where? I am planning to use the JR RD921 satellite receiver only.
When using DSM2/X satellites (pulse position modulation method) with any FBL system that supports them, you don't also need a full function RX (pulse width modulation method), just the Satellite or Satellite x2. I cover this in much more detail on my FBL page under the connectivity heading: www.rchelicopterfun.com/flybarless.html
My page on RX antenna placement may also be helpful: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-antenna.html
By the way, the JR RD921 is a full function 9 channel RX, not a satellite RX.
Got it.Thanks John!
hi, can you answer? Which esc and motor do you use?
H1 vs Kbar? Which one do you like better, and easibility of setup? Watched the H1 video on your 505 and GPS mode seems rather bad for what it's worth.
Ikon or Bavarian Demon. The H1 is good for one thing and one thing only - zero skill flying.
@@Rchelicopterfun You said you were not using governor of the Kbar? Do you usually fly with ESC governor? Mine came with the Hobbywing V4 (ALZRC X360), not sure if I should set ESC governor? Yours seems to have a nice soft start.
how do you mount full size servos??..do you have any adapter for it in a box?..
You can't. Only the tail servo is a full size servo.
34:51 You obviously know how to handle the ladies. :)
I like your videos mate, they are thorough with heaps of information. The heli itself is very tempting considering the price. The only thing that's holding me back to buy this heli is that the ALZRC is new and I'm not sure about spare parts supply in future. As you know lots of these small companies came in the market and left the market less than a year or two leaving you with a heli with no spare parts. What's your thoughts on this one? Cheers.
I first heard of ALZRC back in 2014 so they are not "new" and the 505 specifically, was introduced 4 years ago so not less than a "year or two" but I suspect that was a hyperbolic statement. However, what you described is not limited to ALZRC; it's a systemic problem no mater what brand. Strike that, it's a systemic problem with our endless growth profit driven & massively wasteful society. In the world of RC helicopters, it's actually these smaller boutique brands lately that keep their models around longer (and thus parts support for them) because they don't have massive R&D budgets to keep pumping out new models every few months. No matter what brand and model you get, it's a crap shoot if there will parts for it outside of 3 to 5 years these days. IMO, Bergen, Minatare Aircraft, and Vario would be the best best if you want long term parts support (at least here in North America).
@@Rchelicopterfun Good point and thanks for the reply. I’ve learned a lot from your website and channel. Cheers👍🏽
What Is your version for vstabi. 5.3?
I wonder how those ALZRC servos are I just ordered 4 for my 500L that I am building.
working great still - wouldn't be surprised if they are made by KST.
@@Rchelicopterfun thank you! I like your work.
What battery u use?
4s 4000mha Will be good for this Ely?
Nice vid man! 👍
It needs 6S (22.2V nominal).
@@Rchelicopterfun 6s 2600 Will be good?
Thanks 4 reply ;)
Too small (unless you wan't really short flight times). They recommend 4500mAh as ideal, with a 4000 to 5000 mAh range listed. My 5000 are just a whisker too big, that's why I fly with the 4000's I had. Get about 7 minutes gentle, 5 minutes sport.
@@Rchelicopterfun thanks
Thank you so much
You're welcome
I bought a 505 but I'm having problems downloading the instruction manual. Is there anything special I need to do to get the manual
I just tried it using the 505 manual download button on ALZRC's download page (from the link I have in the description box), and you're right; the download times out & is not working. Maybe they are doing site maintenance right now? Must be some other sources for the 505 PDF with a little google searching, but if you can't find one, or ALZRC's download on their site is still not working in a day or two, contact me through my website: www.rchelicopterfun.com/contact.html
and I'll attach a PDF of the 505 manual I have.
@@Rchelicopterfun thank john For the information I really appreciate it 👍
Can you program auto leveling with this flybarlees system ?
Nope, it's a pure 3 gyro system - no artificial accelerometer help.
Have you noticed the tail servo doesn't work on 333hz as stated only 760
@chris vann - the tail servo works fine at 333Hz. You're confusing the refresh rate (333Hz), with the centering pulse length position 760us (microseconds). www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-servos.html
Does the K-Bar have the rescue feature?
nope
Sir you are a genius my wish in the future is to buy a zlrc 360x helicopter and mount it myself how many hours to work on his request I find his stakes magnificent to mount but I am very very scared (in any case thank you for your video
What servo's did you use????
The ALZRC servos (rebranded KST) that came with the kit. Link to the kit is in the description if you want specs on the servos.
Hi john, I am new to rc heli's but have been practicing with the blade 70s and xk k110 for the last 3 months. sim aswwell. I am on a bit of a budget (I know that doesnt usually go hand in hand with this hobby) but thats how it is haha. I have been reading and researching and have been drawn towards the tarot 450 pro v2 kit. I have built rc car kits and i am mechanically minded so i feel although it may be a challenge, i am up for it. You mention somthing in your unboxing video about no dfc. The tarot comes in tw versions, i was wondering what your advice would be on whether to get the dfc or just the pro v2 kit?
Kind regards
Mark
or is the x360 good?
I'm personally not a fan of DFC heads, but on smaller helicopters (450 and under) their short comings are not as problematic; and on micro sizes (250 and under) they make lots of design and functionality sense due to small head block sizes. I cover potential DFC issues on my website on the DFC page: www.rchelicopterfun.com/DFC.html
As for which Tarot 450 to get, I would choose the one that's the best price. As I mentioned, 450's are right around the size where the issues of DFC become less of a problem so I don't think you would be disappointed with either version. With all that said, I still fly an 800E with a DFC head and have never had any issues, but I keep a close eye on the DFC arms and head dampeners as I don't fully trust the system. I'm also not a hard 3D pilot. If I were, I would have gotten rid of DFC head on that machine as soon as Align offered a conventional washout head.
@@Rchelicopterfun Do you have a video of the 505 wiring ? I mean satellite/ESC/servos/gyro wiring .
I dint find it.
the best
Any flight videos ? Maiden ? :)
I link to it in the description.
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks, and thanks for making this useful videos! Smooth flier, can't wait to finish building my own :D
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I got $225 saved up, took me 3 years mowing lawns, I'm willing to buy this if you throw in free shipping please.
LOL...he doesn't even sell it
Can you send me that rc sorry for asking but i wont that rc helicopter
Do you think he will give it for free, this isn't your uncle's house. Nothing in this world is free.