Thank you so much. I used this video settings on my PID and pulled an expresso instead of coffee!!!! Your detail to the programming of the Auber PID is so valuable.
I'm a customer of SCG and Auber. I hope my level of "dual citizenship" entitles me to comment regarding the symbols that show up on the Auber display during programming. Instead of su, that's sv for Set Value. The symbols for Pre-infusion, dwell (Auber term for wait after Pre-infusion and brew)), and brew times are: tP, td and tb. The Rancilio brew switch needs to be OFF when pumping water through the steam/hot water wand, so if you leave the brew switch on all the time, water will flow from the brewhead when trying to pump hot water only through the wand. I love the Auber PID, Rancilio Silvia and SCG -- great combo of products and service.
I have had my machine with PID for about 2 years now and love it. (sidetone) I purchased the bottomless portafilter which was a huge improvement for pulling shots. Recently, my machine started to act up with temperature control. I took it to the local authorized service location, but due to the installation of the PID, he could not work on it. I don't want to lose my PID as I know this is a huge benefit of the machine. Does the install of the PID void the warranty?
How may one control the *brew* temperature (i.e. the machine's temp when extracting a shot)? The Sv setting as mentioned here pertains to a general notion of "temperature"...
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@Keaton Luis thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
What temp for steaming milk? 290 was the default setting. after i push the extra water out before steaming the milk, it goes down to 270s . . . .should i wait for it to hit 290 again?
No, you can begin steaming right away as soon as you flush that small amount of water from the steam arm and do not need to wait to get the temp to 290. Most folks steam anywhere from 270 to 300 degrees. - Teri
Dang how many videos have you guys produced? This is very interesting stuff. Is it hard to installed a PID on a Rancilio? I just got one. It seems you guys were shooting videos back and forth around the mid 2000's. Do you have newer ones?
I'm very new to making espresso and I am using the PID version from you guys. My shots turn out very watery with half the cup full. What am I doing wrong? I didn't change any settings on the PID.
Hey SCG I love and really appreciate all your videos. I'm planning on getting the rancilio Silvia with the PID from you guys in the future. Just two quick questions about it. Does the PID play into steaming milk at all with special functions or do you simply turn on the steam switch and watch the PID to hit the right temperature to start steaming? Also, just out of curiosity, what are the functions on the PID that Gail said not to mess with?
Hello Jeremy White, The PID does show the temperature climb when you press on the steam button, so you don’t need to worry about pressing any buttons on the PID too in order to get it to go to steam temperature. Also, just of note, you will still need to refill the boiler after you steam, whether you have the PID or not, so that you don’t burn out the boiler. As far as the other functions, this PID has the ability to be used for other things besides controlling temperature for a coffee machine, so if you should get into other functions, if, say you didn’t go to the right programming, you could change something that we would not be able to figure out or talk you through correcting. If you are getting into the programming of the timing of the brew cycle, just be sure that you are only adjusting the settings in “0001,” as we do not have any other guidelines for any other settings that the PID might have control over. Hope this helps! - Miranda
Can you alter the temperature through the shot, so that it starts with the highest temperature and cools down - but in a controlled manner - towards the end of the shot?
Hi SCG, with the pre infusion function on the PID, how does it stop the solenoid valve from activating when it pauses the extraction? Is it any different from just turning the brew switch on, off, then back on again? Cheers Jake
Hi Jacob Madden It's exactly the same as turning the brew button on, then off, then on again. The Silvia doesn't truly have a way to lighten the pressure, the pump is either on, or it's off. With other machines, like Rockets, the pre-infusion is just the release of some of the already existing pressure from the hot water, so it's not actually engaging the pump. :)
Can the PID temperature shown be programmed with an offset to show the estimated water temperature instead on the boiler temp?... Would make a great video... Hint... Hint...
Don't Work on Mine! I went crazy trying to set the tp (pre-infusion) time on my Auber PID (self-installed on Silvia). Guess what - not a programmable option on mine (KIT-RSRTDn ). To set tp you need the KIT-RSPb kit with pre-infusion options. Why didn't somebody tell me that!
hi, i am thinking of getting the PID for my Silvia mainly for the temperature stability. i'm not interested in the pre-infusion and the timing features for the pull and i want to be able to keep using the Silvia's brew button instead of pressing the PID's button for brewing. is it possible to set up the Auber PID this way? thanks!
I believe they have a lesser featured version that they sell on their site that will enable you to operate it like you'd like. Check out the options they carry; they have many more than we offer. - Kat
Not sure if anyone reading this might know but... I bought a used one of these up here in Canada, is it possible to tell if it is displaying in Fahrenheit or Celsius , or if anyone knows how to change it? Not so tech savy so when reading the manual I could not understand at all.
Hi what u think about breville espresso machine the Oracle (Pre-Order) i just want ask about pump it is same espresso machine havey duty in cafe shop? Fast frothing milk I want buy it but i want u help and advise ,, thank u
I don't have any feedback on it yet; I only have had the opportunity to play with the prototype last April. We haven't had a production demo so can't speak to its final functionality, however, it is a home-class machine and the model that I tested doesn't have anywhere near the steaming power of a commercial machine -- the boilers are just too small. It worked great, though! :) - Kat
After installing my Auber Pre-infusion PID (bought at SCW) it operated fine for two weeks, then when turned on today, it goes straight to steam temp, not stopping at brew temp. Checked all wiring to the drawiings and all look good. Ideas to resolve this? I've not programmed the PID, unless pressed something accidentally. Thanks.
I have a question. Well a statement/question. The PID as much as i can see addresses the extraction time and boiler temp. Extraction and preinfusion,i can do manually. The boiler temp control seems to be the main benefit....the actual reason i am interested in the PID for the silvia is actually fine tuning the boiler pressure for frothing milk...i find this to be the weakest point of this machine. There is either over pressure or under pressure, not to mention sloppy boiler element kick in times during frothing.... I imagine an actual pressure gauge connected,read and regulated by the pid would be the solution if it doesnt already exist!!!
The amount of time (and therefore the amount of milk) you can steam with the Silvia is limited. Therefore, I begin steaming as soon as the (not) ready light goes out. When it comes back on, the steam isn't hot enough., but within the ready state it works. Throttle the pressure with the steam knob at first when the pressure is highest.
At 1:00 you show how you can scroll over and input “1”, but you don’t explain why. Is the 1 simply to enter programming mode? Please remember to explain your steps in addition to just doing them. btw, letting that machine heat up with no water in it, goodbye heating elements.
Don't add a PID to your espresso machine. I've owned the same Rancilio Silvia for the past 15 + years. I just had the 3rd Auber PID controller go sideways. The problem is that adding a PID complicates the wiring, you are adding another temperature sensor + a solid state relay. You now have more things that can/will go wrong. I have had one of more of these components go out over the years. I just removed all of it and put my machine back to a stock configuration. Now I'm enjoying wonderful espresso without all the hassle and fiddling needed just to attempt to have a bit more control over the temperature. In the end, you will not notice the taste difference at all. As a matter of fact, when I removed the entire Auber PID system I would say my shots are the best they have ever been. Just run the machine without the portafilter under the head for a few seconds before your shot. This will bring the temperature up and clean out the brew head. Voila! Save your money!
mark can I restore my Silvia with a qualified tech or can I send it to you? seriously. Is it then like a regular Silvia again? The one they have on here is unnecessarily busy.
So HAPPY Gails helpful videos are still here ♥️
SV - Set Value, TP - Time Pre-Infusion, TD - Time Delay, TB - Time Brew
Thank you so much. I used this video settings on my PID and pulled an expresso instead of coffee!!!! Your detail to the programming of the Auber PID is so valuable.
not much detail when you wont do a shot
I'm a customer of SCG and Auber. I hope my level of "dual citizenship" entitles me to comment regarding the symbols that show up on the Auber display during programming. Instead of su, that's sv for Set Value. The symbols for Pre-infusion, dwell (Auber term for wait after Pre-infusion and brew)), and brew times are: tP, td and tb. The Rancilio brew switch needs to be OFF when pumping water through the steam/hot water wand, so if you leave the brew switch on all the time, water will flow from the brewhead when trying to pump hot water only through the wand. I love the Auber PID, Rancilio Silvia and SCG -- great combo of products and service.
Thank you! Great detail for folks :) - Kat
do you know how to change the steam temperature? thanks!
thanks their video is not that detailed nor thorough
@@jidoc4877you'll wanna change the AH1 and AL1, that is the start and stop heater temp for the steaming
Have no pid, but still getting amazing espresso with my Rancilio Silvia ;)
Just ordered mine yesterday with a Rocky can't wait!!!!!!
how is it holding up?
Thank you, this video helped me figure out the settings on my sous vide controller!
I have had my machine with PID for about 2 years now and love it. (sidetone) I purchased the bottomless portafilter which was a huge improvement for pulling shots.
Recently, my machine started to act up with temperature control. I took it to the local authorized service location, but due to the installation of the PID, he could not work on it. I don't want to lose my PID as I know this is a huge benefit of the machine. Does the install of the PID void the warranty?
This is so informative. Thanks.
I was very excited for a second and then remembered I don't have all that on my gaggia. 😂
but I got what I came for the temp settings!
How do you change celsius to fahrenheit?
I was wondering this too!
How may one control the *brew* temperature (i.e. the machine's temp when extracting a shot)? The Sv setting as mentioned here pertains to a general notion of "temperature"...
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I stupidly forgot the password. I love any help you can give me
@Quinn Will Instablaster =)
@Keaton Luis thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
@Keaton Luis It did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I am so happy!
Thanks so much you saved my ass!
@Quinn Will glad I could help xD
What temp for steaming milk? 290 was the default setting. after i push the extra water out before steaming the milk, it goes down to 270s . . . .should i wait for it to hit 290 again?
No, you can begin steaming right away as soon as you flush that small amount of water from the steam arm and do not need to wait to get the temp to 290. Most folks steam anywhere from 270 to 300 degrees. - Teri
Dang how many videos have you guys produced? This is very interesting stuff. Is it hard to installed a PID on a Rancilio? I just got one. It seems you guys were shooting videos back and forth around the mid 2000's. Do you have newer ones?
I'm very new to making espresso and I am using the PID version from you guys. My shots turn out very watery with half the cup full. What am I doing wrong? I didn't change any settings on the PID.
Hey SCG I love and really appreciate all your videos. I'm planning on getting the rancilio Silvia with the PID from you guys in the future. Just two quick questions about it. Does the PID play into steaming milk at all with special functions or do you simply turn on the steam switch and watch the PID to hit the right temperature to start steaming? Also, just out of curiosity, what are the functions on the PID that Gail said not to mess with?
Hello Jeremy White, The PID does show the temperature climb when you press on the steam button, so you don’t need to worry about pressing any buttons on the PID too in order to get it to go to steam temperature. Also, just of note, you will still need to refill the boiler after you steam, whether you have the PID or not, so that you don’t burn out the boiler. As far as the other functions, this PID has the ability to be used for other things besides controlling temperature for a coffee machine, so if you should get into other functions, if, say you didn’t go to the right programming, you could change something that we would not be able to figure out or talk you through correcting. If you are getting into the programming of the timing of the brew cycle, just be sure that you are only adjusting the settings in “0001,” as we do not have any other guidelines for any other settings that the PID might have control over. Hope this helps! - Miranda
Can you alter the temperature through the shot, so that it starts with the highest temperature and cools down - but in a controlled manner - towards the end of the shot?
Why at the end of my shot the temperature reading has dropped significantly and would that mean the temperature dropped during my shot?
Was mine installed wrong? When i switch on the Brew button, it still activates the brew instead of the PID controller.
Hi SCG, with the pre infusion function on the PID, how does it stop the solenoid valve from activating when it pauses the extraction? Is it any different from just turning the brew switch on, off, then back on again?
Cheers
Jake
Hi Jacob Madden It's exactly the same as turning the brew button on, then off, then on again. The Silvia doesn't truly have a way to lighten the pressure, the pump is either on, or it's off. With other machines, like Rockets, the pre-infusion is just the release of some of the already existing pressure from the hot water, so it's not actually engaging the pump. :)
Seattle Coffee Gear No problem. Thanks for the reply
THANK YOU!
Can the PID temperature shown be programmed with an offset to show the estimated water temperature instead on the boiler temp?... Would make a great video... Hint... Hint...
Hello. What do you think, how expensive is the shipping of a Miss Silvia with a Auber PID to Germany. Thank you for the effort in advance.
I know I'm in trouble when the first thing someone says is "it's really not that hard at all"
how is this 10 years ago?!
Wild to think about isn't it!?
Don't Work on Mine! I went crazy trying to set the tp (pre-infusion) time on my Auber PID (self-installed on Silvia). Guess what - not a programmable option on mine (KIT-RSRTDn ). To set tp you need the KIT-RSPb kit with pre-infusion options. Why didn't somebody tell me that!
hi, i am thinking of getting the PID for my Silvia mainly for the temperature stability. i'm not interested in the pre-infusion and the timing features for the pull and i want to be able to keep using the Silvia's brew button instead of pressing the PID's button for brewing. is it possible to set up the Auber PID this way? thanks!
I believe they have a lesser featured version that they sell on their site that will enable you to operate it like you'd like. Check out the options they carry; they have many more than we offer. - Kat
Not sure if anyone reading this might know but... I bought a used one of these up here in Canada, is it possible to tell if it is displaying in Fahrenheit or Celsius , or if anyone knows how to change it? Not so tech savy so when reading the manual I could not understand at all.
You can't change it. You buy it in either f or c. It'll be pretty obvious which it is when it heats up.
You failed to mention people's PIDs may be in celsius, so they want to program around 104 celsius, not 220
Cold you put a pid on a via vnsea
Hey Kat, did you and Gail Kool & The Gang - Get Down On It with that Auber PID, lol...
We celebrated a good time, yes ;) - Kat
Hi what u think about breville espresso machine the Oracle (Pre-Order) i just want ask about pump it is same espresso machine havey duty in cafe shop? Fast frothing milk
I want buy it but i want u help and advise ,, thank u
I don't have any feedback on it yet; I only have had the opportunity to play with the prototype last April. We haven't had a production demo so can't speak to its final functionality, however, it is a home-class machine and the model that I tested doesn't have anywhere near the steaming power of a commercial machine -- the boilers are just too small. It worked great, though! :) - Kat
how do you change the brew time
mark c did you even watch the video? It clearly shows you at 2:30
After installing my Auber Pre-infusion PID (bought at SCW) it operated fine for two weeks, then when turned on today, it goes straight to steam temp, not stopping at brew temp. Checked all wiring to the drawiings and all look good. Ideas to resolve this? I've not programmed the PID, unless pressed something accidentally. Thanks.
When I set the brew time to 25 seconds I only get 1 oz. Does anyone know why?
No expert, but I think your grind will determine how much coffee you get in a given amount of time.
@@vicwahbyphotography4866 grinder slightly courser.
I have a question. Well a statement/question.
The PID as much as i can see addresses the extraction time and boiler temp. Extraction and preinfusion,i can do manually. The boiler temp control seems to be the main benefit....the actual reason i am interested in the PID for the silvia is actually fine tuning the boiler pressure for frothing milk...i find this to be the weakest point of this machine. There is either over pressure or under pressure, not to mention sloppy boiler element kick in times during frothing....
I imagine an actual pressure gauge connected,read and regulated by the pid would be the solution if it doesnt already exist!!!
The amount of time (and therefore the amount of milk) you can steam with the Silvia is limited. Therefore, I begin steaming as soon as the (not) ready light goes out. When it comes back on, the steam isn't hot enough., but within the ready state it works. Throttle the pressure with the steam knob at first when the pressure is highest.
At 1:00 you show how you can scroll over and input “1”, but you don’t explain why. Is the 1 simply to enter programming mode? Please remember to explain your steps in addition to just doing them. btw, letting that machine heat up with no water in it, goodbye heating elements.
0001 is just the code needed to enter programming mode
Don't add a PID to your espresso machine. I've owned the same Rancilio Silvia for the past 15 + years. I just had the 3rd Auber PID controller go sideways. The problem is that adding a PID complicates the wiring, you are adding another temperature sensor + a solid state relay. You now have more things that can/will go wrong. I have had one of more of these components go out over the years. I just removed all of it and put my machine back to a stock configuration. Now I'm enjoying wonderful espresso without all the hassle and fiddling needed just to attempt to have a bit more control over the temperature. In the end, you will not notice the taste difference at all. As a matter of fact, when I removed the entire Auber PID system I would say my shots are the best they have ever been.
Just run the machine without the portafilter under the head for a few seconds before your shot. This will bring the temperature up and clean out the brew head. Voila!
Save your money!
mark can I restore my Silvia with a qualified tech or can I send it to you? seriously. Is it then like a regular Silvia again? The one they have on here is unnecessarily busy.
But you can leave it as a temperature indicator, an expensive one that is though
The PID works great! Don't get one if you are OK with mediocre espresso.
How would you do a Flush with a PID?
Use the water button with the steam valve closed