What's the problem with Fender Guitars Made Overseas?
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The problem is that it's specs read like an Affinity Squier and it is easily inferior to other Asian made guitars that cost $150 to $250 less.
there's really no problem with any guitar no matter where it came from. it's just the price doesn't match it.
@@neilfordan Gretsch sells 900$ made in China and it's mostly fine. PRS has 1000$ SE series made in Indinesia
Anyone that buys either of those examples you just named needs their brain examined.
Exactly this. I’m fine with overseas guitars but to put subpar specs & price it at $600 when an Indonesian made Squier classic vibe can be had for $430 with better specs is a bad move imo.
The problem is not the overseas aspect. It is very bluntly telling customers: We know you are stupid enough to pay 150-200 bucks more for a decal. And, once the dust settles, this is exactly what is going to happen.
If fender wants to devalue their brand, no need to defender them. 😂
I see what you did there, and I laughed.
I still think that this Standard series is Fender tariff-proofing the low end of their lineup. Mexican Player IIs may very well be going for in excess of $1,000USD by this time next year.
this
I just said this during philip mcknights video on the strat…great minds think alike
Not sure it's that simple if components come from both sides of the border.
Thank you!! This is exactly what I’ve been saying and I feel like I’ve been getting dismissed.
People will pay a higher price for the higher end MIM. Vinteras, signature models yada yada. Those guitars can probably stay profitable.
Player stuff? Absolutely not. No way is anybody paying an inflated price for one of those and fender knows it and needs something queued up and ready if shit goes sideways.
This is the real reason why the standard series exists.
Lord I was born a Ramblin man.
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@@lazvt8469 And when it's time for leavin' I hope you'll understand....That I was born a ramblin' man
@ And when it’s time for leaving, I hope you’ll understand.
MIM Fender's aren't made overseas, and they're arguably of lesser quality than MIJ Fender's.
The problem has nothing to do with guitars made in places other than The United States. The problem is in the American people's perception that if it's not made in the US, it's not as good. Every country has the ability to make virtually anything to an exacting standard, and to the highest quality.
Unfortunately, they're brainwashed into believing that they are better than everyone else, so everything they make is also better (I'm not knocking the American people, but if you are told that you are better than the rest of the world throughout your childhood, you can start to believe it).
As Mike Myers’s used to say, “If it’s not Scottish, it’s crrrap!”
(SNL)
"The problem is in the American people's perception that if it's not made in the US, it's not as good" - pokes *Cybertruck with a stick.*
@@TiberiusWallace
I'm sorry, but I don't see your point.
The internet is full of videos of Americans saying this very thing. Do you consider my repeating this fact "poking them with a stick"?
@ No. My point is that Cybertruck is american made so I was pointing out not everything american made is quality.
If you literally poked a cybertruck with a stick bits would fall off and you might break the suspension arm.
@@TiberiusWallace
Hahahaha. That's quite funny. ✌️
As a Scotsman, ALL Fenders are made overseas.
I could draw comparisons by pointing out low pay, poor workers rights etc but that doesn't apply to Mexico and Indonesia.
Hi everyone! Buy whatever makes you happy!
yep...and mod what doesn't.....or sell.
Seems people are happy to complain about stuff online that they probably weren’t going to buy anyway. It would be cheaper for them to just shut up though! 😂
Btw, I saw an Indian Laurel wood fretboard on a beige body tele, brass hardware and a brown pickguard and it looked exquisite.
A lot of the custom and artisan guitar builders have worked out that fretboard wood is just an aesthetic choice and you can use those colours and grains to make them gorgeous.
Remember - Rosewood and Ebony are only used in guitars because they were popular furniture inlay woods the previous century. No other reason.
I just dont see the added value in this over a Squier Contemporary with split tuners, roasted neck, Alnico pickups, 22 frets, sculpted heel, and the real benefit: wicked painted headstock.
Also over pretty much any other Squier
I'm gonna try them in person and make my own mind.
I've tried them the necks are definitely Fender but the body is a Squier affinity Strat body and do you know how i know this? I took it apart and inside it is badged Squier by Fender no joke and has the same routing for humbuckers if you want to change them , so what id advise is buy an Affiinity strat and change the trem and tuners and there you go its now a Fender lol Also the body being Poplar is not good at all as its a very soft wood that children's toys are made from here in the UK and the wood dings easy , you want either Mahogany or Alder for a Guitar body not Poplar , also dont buy the so called Rosewood neck version as its a fake Rosewood from India called Laurel wood , It seems in 2025 everything is getting worse and these big corporations expect us to be treated like a Dog and smile as the saying goes.
@@chrisayres5050Affinity Strat body is too thin, so it’s not the same.
@019bc3 not true of new Affinity series trust me it's the same weight and full size 👍
@chrisayres5050 The Fender states on their website that Affinity series have slim and lightweight bodies. Also I'm a frequent visitor of guitar stores to know that Affinities have thin bodies. There were a few limited FSR models which featured a full thickness bodies, but those are exceptions.
@@019bc3 Thats weird as ive got a Standard US Strat from the 00s and a cheap Chinese made Affinity Strat and the bodies look the same? the wood obviously aint but yeah very odd maybe i got lucky ?
I remember the "simple old days" when Fender "Standard" meant "made in Mexico" and than you had "The American Standard"! (like a "Professional Series" guitar today but half the price!) They obviously had the more expensive American Deluxe/Vintage Series etc. but that was mostly all you got! Both "Standard" guitars were made "awesome" and reasonably priced"! What happened to those days? More proof world is going to "shit". lol.
Good to see you are not traumatised having 'just got back from 'Nam'. You could so easily have started hearing Fortunate Son mixed in with the sound of a UH-1D Huey whilst seeing flashbacks of F4s doing napalm runs on treelines and all that kind of stuff.
I have a Korean Fender Tele that's phenomenal. one of my favorite guitars.
I think my 1994 MIJ strat has ceramic pickups too.
My Affinity Jag feels good. Paint looks good. Frets were good. Have my Affinity tele for 10 years. It would have been long gone if it was crappy.
Bet many are parroting without even touching the guitar. That’s how it goes.
Most of the negative comments come from people who haven't even touched one.
The majority of people assume things based on the specs sheet. But the specs say nothing about the quality of the neck, how much time was spent on QC, the quality of the frets, hardware, etc, etc.
I wonder how often Landon mistakes his son for the pizza guy.
Hopefully not so much that he has his pants removed waiting.
Honest Guy. Your right, no guitar can make you you play better with out practice. You can take a cheap guitar and sound great as long as you practise.
@@darrylfry1078 idk I remember going from my bought new in 96 epiphone LP special ii to a Gibson LP studio few years later and my god did my playing wake up, everything was easier, made me able to fly when I wanted too, I felt the instrument resonate so much more that it made me hold notes longer and my playing became more melodic easily and instantly, before either of those I was struggling on a mij Squire with a plywood body and a warped neck that desperately needed a shim, firework was nice but rest was a pos :) a proficient player doesn't have to have a great guitar but hell it definitely helps, a great player can play on anything yes ..but why would a great player settle for just anything half decent, we don't become great players by settling on mediocre riffs from a tab we found that's decent enough right
I think what Fender is doing is further differentiating their lines, trying to find a way for beginners to get good guitars (at a reasonable price) and move up as they get better/older. China, Indonesia (although some of their FSR models are really good looking!), Korea, Mexico, Japan and USA in ascending order. It is kinda like the General Motors model where you started with a Chevrolet or Pontiac, then moved up into a Buick, followed by a Oldsmobile. Then when you “made” it, you got a Cadillac. It’ll be interesting to see if this strategy works for Fender. BTW, I adore Fender guitars!
The real reason that they did this was because the Squier guitars are so popular especially the Vintage Vibe series that Fender figures that they can save money and offer the same basic idea but with a Fender logo and a few slightly upgraded parts. This is only done to capitalize on the brand name. This is a move to cheaper labour but with the same basic appeal to those who can't afford a $2,500.00 Fender made in USA. Sadly the quality will still be Squier - not Fender. The reason that people are so offended is the idea of paying the same for a lesser quality guitar as what you can get a MADE IN MEXICO guitar for which has better quality materials and hardware. They're basically paying for a Squire guitar with Squire quality but with a few Fender parts and Fender headstock logo. It just doesn't equate financially for most people.
I had a Modern Player Jazzmaster, and it was legit one of the greatest guitars I've ever owned. Played like a dream, but it did have the same issue as you mentioned - the switch. It would often not activate the neck pickup, but it was easily replaced. God I miss that guitar...
So why did you get rid of it?
@unfortunately i lost it in a fire
@@melpomenean :(
Mr.Landon SIR, can you make a video with a breakdown on beginner lessons and the progress through it all and whats involved. Is it boring? What is a successful students mindset in order to push through to the end? When can one actually fool around playing guitar? I really love the Squier Classic Vibe.
ya I'm planning something like this
“Who is this guy? The pizza delivery guy? Ah naaaaa it’s my son” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
We need to see some videos of people doing blindfolded comparisons between Mexican and Indonesian. I predict they won't really be able to tell the difference.
My go to Precision is an Indonesian Squier, the 2022 40th anniversary series. I am fascinated by how good it is, comparing it to everything else - only about half of the American Pros have better necks, I’m all for it. Every piece of wood is unique.
My 40th anniversary Squier Tele vintage is one of the best necks I’ve ever played.
I have a 40th Anniversary black and gold Precision Bass with a blocked and bound neck. It's one of the nicest, comfortable necks I've ever played -- next to my USA made Fender bass.
The Starcaster and Corona reissues I checked out a few years ago were made in China.
They had Fender on their headstocks.
(Yes Landon mentions some info on the Starcaster)
This was before the Squier version of the Starcaster.
The Fender's built in Korea have always been outstanding guitars!!
Thats where they should make them or Japan not China or Indonesia , saying that Chinese made Squier classic vibes are very good i like the Gloss neck as it feels more premium and is what the Japanese Fenders use
Got a Korean Charvel yesterday. Bought it used. The wiring could be better but is fine. Other than that it’s a really great guitar. Had a classic vibe too. Was not the best Tele i had, but i liked it more than my mexican Fender. The wiring was bad though. Pickups were good, pots, switch and wires were really bad. But thats an easy fix.
I got an older MX Tele with the ceramic pickups. It didn't sound anywhere near as good as the Player series Alnico V Tele I had but I liked the body and neck better so I swapped alnico 5 pickups into it. It sounds as good as it looks now. It's an absolutely lovely guitar.
I gota WILD opinion, if you like them…buy them! And if ya don’t….i checked, and apparently you don’t HAVE to buy one. Interesting
That’s a really wild opinion. I thought if you don’t like something you have to constantly whine about it on the Internet.
@@019bc3
Yes, that exactly why the internet was invented. It is also what you’re supposed to do if love something, but you can’t afford it.
@@charlesbolton8471 I can afford it. I just don't want it.
It was nice to see you at NAMM and hope the "NAMM House" thing worked out. These guitars have been on the design board for several years and I'm sure the actual production guitars will be better than the first ones that you see. There's a huge learning process in all production facilities. The bodies are what we would call cottonwood in the US, not poplar. Two different woods. The neck wood is the same Canadian maple as everyone uses.
Where I live, US, Canadian and Mexican guitars are made overseas too
I have a Fender limited custom telecaster fmt hh. Made in Indonesia. Absolutely love the guitar. Mahogany body/neck, neck through construction, etc. if this guitar was made in the states, i couldn't afford it. It's a keeper.
Me too.
phillip mcknight goes into really quality depth on this topic in one of his latest videos and answers many of your questions, Landon.
I've had some guitars with ceramic pickups that have sounded really good, both clean and driven. Some people are bugged by this release, I'm not. I'll judge one when it's in my hands, and decide if it's worth the money then.
I don't understand people who constantly complain about things when they have the free will to choose whether to do something or not to buy something. Love ya stuff, Landon. That's why I choose to watch you, mate.
I suspect the majority of people who constantly complain about specs don’t even play or record music. I guess it’s their hobby to read guitar specs and complain about them on the Internet all the time.
I'm a logo snob. I want Fender on my headstock, not Squier.
How about a Squier with a Fender headstock logo? 😝
I respect your snobbery for being proud and loud , not lile those posers commenting about tonewood crap
I want mine to be made in America. Period. And I gotta play it in person to decide if it was made well that day. QC has really gone down at some of these companies in the past few years.
Same...except... I have a black and gold 40th Anniversary Squier Precision Bass. It is so good that if I were to put a Fender logo on the headstock and let other experienced players try it out for a while, they wouldn't know it was a Squier.
But, yeah, my #1 is an '04 Translucent Sunset Orange, Made in U.S.A. Jazz Bass with the S-1 Switching System. It came from the factory with "B" width Precision Bass neck (and logo).
Nothing wrong with indonesian fenders. But the thing is this standard series is so diluted it doesn't make much sense. Alder bodies, alnico pickups and cool colours should be the... Standard.
It's not the location, it's what components it has and what you're paying for it. A Classic Vibe has nicer specs for less money, so I wager getting a Classic Vibe and then paying for a professional setup on it is a better use of your money
Classic Vibe and even Paranormal instruments are worth their price. A good value, all of them,
@YippeeSkippie426 I'm convinced the Paranormal line only exists because the Squier builders want to have a bit of fun and I'm all for it
Guy I know in Iowa assembled and did setup a customized stratocaster for me.
Best guitar I had.
By the way I'm an intermediate player, not a professional so don't take my opinion seriously, I have 4 guitars and 248 pew pews. 😅
PS. The word you were looking for is kerfuffle. 😆
I like your ramble videos! Do more of them! The next time we're in the same area we gotta do a ramble video about Radiohead.
That sounds like fun, I'm in!
American made fenders are the best because they have the highest level hardware and are made from the best wood. The people putting them together aren’t really the part that makes it so expensive. Anyone who’s played in American knows it’s the top of the line. They could make these in China if they wanted, using the same wood and hardware, but since the fender was, you know, kind of invented in the United States, that’s where they make them. USA USA.
Actually you're wrong. It IS the price of overhead and the employees that you're paying the most for. Wood and hardware are only a small part of the cost. You can get wood for next to nothing in bulk which is what Fender does. The hardware is mostly made in China or Japan now. Believe it or not but most of this is no longer made in USA or in Germany. The neckplates are stamped out here in USA but only because it's the main part of the guitar which bolts to it. The bridges are made in Taiwan now as the machine heads are now made in China. Even the USA Series guitars use cheap Chinese made Oak-Grigsby switches which are garbage! The only parts that are still made in USA are the vintage FENDER FENDER, FENDER PAT.PEND, Ultra bridges, Telecaster bridges, the Fender American Standard Series bridges and Telecaster control plates and jack plates. All other parts are now made in Taiwan as are their capacitors and jacks.
I've been playing USA made Fenders for quite some time. And for a while, professionally. When you have one of these as your #1 (and you maintain it, of course), you never ever have to think about what kind of mood it's going to be in today. There were other times I played only once a week and, being a bad boy, wouldn't practice all week. Next gig I'd pull out that USA Fender and it would still be in tune.
There are alot of cheap guitar out there. Just keep practicing. Practice does not make you perfect. Practice makes you better. Indonesia guitars are very nice
Don't really get why people are upset about, fender has always been open to license their models and logo, up until the early 90's we had a Fender southern Cross model in Brazil which was a local company that licensed fender's models and logo and made the guitars with local Woods. If you don't want an indonisian fender then just don't buy one
I don’t know, people whine so much as if they’re forced to buy the Standard Series guitars 😂
Landon has the best sense of humor in the youtube guitar world 🤣
If its good for the player, its good for the player, I have a Fender branded Indonesian Mahogany Acoustic (I know the Acoustic snobs will shit on it for being a Fender Acoustic) and its a good guitar, stays in tune, well intonated, no fret sprout, easy to play and sounds good with that deep rich mahogany sound, it only cost me 300 bucks new about a decade ago (so it fit my budget at the time) and has held up well and I play it daily. I personally don't care where it was made or even if it has the Fender name on it, I also have a Squier Tele from China that plays great but I did have to do a little set up work on it when I got it, other than that its a good player. In the end, they are tools and if they fit the job, who cares about the opinion of brand snobs
I wish I had that Jim adkins signature it’s so cool and I absolutely love Jimmy eat world
I had one in cherry. The set Gibson scale neck threw me off a little bit, and the p90s were pretty harsh. But man it oozed cool. Upgrade the pickups and it could be your favorite guitar.
I played a $649 Player II and a $2100 American ultra at GC the other day. The Player II felt and played much better.
The problem is the price for what you're actually getting. You're essentially paying a premium for a headstock logo.
I think another possibility is they are going to possibly suspend Mexican production, if Trump puts a 25% tariff on Mexican stuff. Imagine the Mexican ones at a $1000 price point (because of the tariff added on). Not such a good value at that point. Plus - I feel that Indonesian workmanship is superior. My 2 cents.
the problem is that it's worse specs and build than some squiers at a much higher price just because it says fender in the headstock.
@@hollyc5417 PRS SE eats the standards lunch. Can’t figure out why anyone would buy this rebadged squire over a SS for the same money unless you just Have to have a badge
I have two Indonesian built guitars and honestly they play,sound and feel just fine one is a shecter the other is a gretsch and I would buy them again if I had to. So I think fender will do fine because there's a niche for it.
0:18 There was a Squier made in India -- not sure this counts in your list.
Oh, and I momentarily forgot my Squier H.M. I from Korea! 👍
I wonder if we’re at the beginning of people not being brand loyal anymore
Brands don’t really mean much anymore; doesn’t tell you who actually made a thing, where it was made, and doesn’t correlate to quality anymore, for the most part. In fact, products seem to be an afterthought and companies are focusing on marketing their brand.
What will a world without branding and brand loyalty look like?
just get a squier
Same factory?
Idk I have an American professional, Player 2 tele and a couple Squiers honestly I think I will likely get one they probably going to be good once production ramps up. Poplar is a great tone wood you can find on much more expensive guitars
Poplar is FIREWOOD!! This is what garbage guitars are made from. It's soft, it dents easily, is inconsistent in its colouration, and in its density. This is quite possibly the worst wood you could use for a musical instrument other than white pine or basswood! I can't see how anyone would want to use it other than it's cheap.
It means Fender are going to stop making blue Teles.
(We're inventing rumours on the spot, I felt left out).
When the dust settles, either they're decent value for the spec/quality and they'll be broadly accepted eventually. Or they're poor value for the spec/quality (which is where I'm tentatively leaning relative to CV, but I can revise my opinion later based on evidence and experience).
People aren’t just complaining they see a cash grab for name brand and don’t jive with it. It all starts with complaints and eventually the money will speak. Either people buy them and prove the complainers wrong or they dont buy them and tell Fender this is the wrong direction. Only time will tell.
Also people are forgetting there are things happening out of Fender’s hands, 25% tariffs to Mexico.
I'm just a little confused as to why FMIC would launch a new line that is so remarkably similar to what they already have in the Squier Classic Vibe series. Aside from a few differences, the specs, even the colors are almost the same. I don't think anyone is really doubting their quality, the CV series are awesome and have been for a long time. Is it worth it to buy the same guitar for $170 more to have Fender on the headstock? I have a feeling the Classic Vibe series may get the axe at some point with this new line launching.
I don't think they will give it the axe. I think promoting Indonesia to full fledged Fender builders will leave them open to move most if not all Squier production to China.
The Indonesian factories make whatever they are asked to make. Much of their output is of exeptional quality I think Fender are making a big mistake with these new Standards quality wise at that price point. The competition from other brands is Ferocious!
Ramble on buddy! You’re one of my top 3 YT ramblers. My grandfather had a Rambler it was a car google it. I was going to watch a sad plane crash you tube but I saw this pop up and glad I watched it. Made me smile. Why are people so negative? If you don’t like it don’t buy it. What do I know, I don’t even have a fender I have a partscaster. Somehow I think if I had a custom shop I wouldn’t sound any better….custom shop not going to make me practice more…look who is rambling now lol…
They should be made in Canada, the 51st state!
America's hat
From the spec sheet and reviews so far I don't see why you would buy it over a CV. What is disappointing is it costing $150-200 more without proper pickup construction (magnetic polls instead of bar magnets) and without having hardware that looks correct (no chrome plated saddles.)
I really don't like laurel fretboards and wish they would use poa fero but that is another thing.
The bar magnet pickups are what Leo wanted after fender so maybe they have uses. But having everything made properly to at least look the old way seemed to be the selling point.
The fender group stuff from Indonesia (Jackson, charvel, evh) are all better out of the box fret wise than the MiM versions so I was expecting great things.
Pau Ferro looked horrendous in most cases on MIM Players. I would prefer any other wood to pau ferro to be honest.
@ they could have used Amaranth (brown purple heart) like the Jacksons and charvel use in the lower price points. There are many good options that don't look like laurel or pau Ferro. Both of those don't look anything like rosewood without some serious dyes.
@ By the way, I noticed a few Jackson's new guitars even at $800 price point now use laurel and poplar as well. I guess Fender decided to use cheaper woods in all other subbrands as well.
I don't think it would be a "Bad" guitar. Indo and China have been making great guitars (and some bad ones) for years, and with CNC machining it should be okay fit-wise. I think the only gripe I would have is that price point for what seems like something between an Affinity and Classic Vibe, but more expensive than the Classic Vibe just for the Fender branding.
With the Classic Vibe being in the Low - Mid $400's, it would have been nice to see this more down around $300 - 350 (considering it seems nicer than an Affinity but not quite as good as the Classic Vibe)...
I'd like to try one. I think you'd potentially see people modding them.
I bought a standard strat from SW. Besides a much needed setup, it's great. I like it as much as my mexican strat and tele. I actually like the neck better on the standard than on my mexican models.
Theres no problem as long as the quality is there. Its only a problem for American snobery really, same with MIM. Any other country dont really care as much because all guitars are foreign made, USA made included.
I don’t understand the issue with Fender ADDING new options. It’s not like they are taking away beloved options to make room for the new Standard
Aliexpress can sell a Malmsteen Strat copy for $175-200 dollars .... US is $2500 plus crazy tax .... manufacturing cost I was told in US is about $300 !!!! Huge Profits
Does that Clock have Blue in it's face and a picture of Space or are those just Cool Blue lights reflecting off of it 🤷♂ ???
There are no problems, Schecter already makes indo strats, and are magnificent instruments.
Fender Standard ($860CAD) seems like a Squier upscale model (a tier not currently in Squier's lineup) that Fender didn't think could sell for the current asking price if branded Squier. I think Squier deserved to have an upscale model. Afterall, PRS does it with multiple SE price tiers, also made in Indonesia. This might canabilize Squier sales as it pushes the expectation of value down for Squiers: "I can buy a low priced Fender why should I look at Squiers?"
The central point here, is that the Classic Vibe series have vintage type finishes, vintage style tuners, and the telecasters have vintage style bridges. The standard series is, by contrast, a modern guitar with modern components. If that were the sole reason for its existence, that would be enough.
Well think of it this way: the Classic Vibe Series is made with vintage specifications but with modern polyester finishes and cheaper plated hardware. The electronics are similar to what is already being used on the USA and Mexico made guitars. But there is only a slight difference between Squier and the new Fender Standard Series guitars with hardware and woods which isn't enough to justify paying a few hundred dollars for what is essentially a Squier guitar with a Fender headstock decal on it.
They probably play and sound fine. The issue is that you will get the same experience with a new Affinity for less money and Fender are trying to mug people off with a change of logo. Outrageous. This is Mike's away from the old Mim Standard.
I'll tell you what I think - you *never* have to use the phrase "going forward" or "moving forward." It's hackneyed and redundant.
I would tell you all of these things in person :-)
As for these new "Fenders," eh, I'd still buy the Classic Vibe 50s Tele. Better still, a Squier Limited-Edition Classic Vibe '60s Telecaster Thinline in Sonic Blue.
G&l have rhis approach sorted well. If these are anywhere near as food as my Comanche teibute then it can only be a food thing.
Not all overseas Fenders are "Squire's with Fender decals on them." I've got a Japanese Tele and a Japanese Strat that are both out-phucking-standing. I've also got a Squire that's amazing as well. So... whatever.
Buy a Player series Strat for less, or Save your money for a Player II
my suspicion about why fender doing this decal thing is still directed to this one :
PRS Silver Sky SE
I'm going to be real with you, the only reason you would buy a PRS silver sky is because you're a John Mayer fanboy.
@Beegstation i could be. in fact it's been the best selling guitar for two years, and I suspect if fender thinks it shouldve belongd to them. I mean they lost mayer and then his fans too, and that worries fender. that's what i thought.
Landon Baily can make any guitar sound great.
I’ve got no gripe about where they are made, more so interested in what is going to happen to Fender Mexico.
It’s going to continue to move upmarket like it has been doing since its inception.
These are just bad guitars for 600. That’s all it really is.
People are tired of greedy corporations and their tireless pursuit of new rip offs. You can't blame people, its constant. Fender can charge whatever they want. For me, a Jet guitar is a better value at $200. Great roasted neck and nice bass wood bodies.
I played one of the standard telecasters the other day and really liked it. Neck was great, Matt saddles I thought looked great and the build was good. Definitely felt a step up from classic vibe. Sadly it's weak point was the pickups - thought they were muddier than my affinity Tele. I am about to buy a player ii due to this- just a bit nicer to play whole package. And would probably spend the difference between the player ii and standard replacing switch, pickups and tuners on the standard. Love the shade of the butterscotch on the standard though- much nicer than classic vibe orange or mustard yellow in most fender production models.
There has been another “Standard series” , namely a “ Squier Standard series” ..
I do still own one of these , the “ Squier Standard Black and Chrome Stratocaster” made in Indonesia.
This Squier Standard feels a lot like the “New” Fender Standard version, are they the same possibly?
But isnt the necks on the standard diff from the Squiers ? People are saying this..more like a real fender profile ?
You can buy a used MIM strat for less. Classic vibes are nice, often heavy. Necks while glossy are thin and narrow…. However, most MIM are multi piece, that’s why most are opaque finishes. These new ones are basically the same as MIM of old.
country of origin isnt the problem corporate greed is 599 usa for guitar thats specked like a much cheaper brands there are better choices out there in the price range such as sire or fesley for 100 less Brand logo's are not as important to most buy what you like after all its your choice
I'm far from an expert but Philip McKnight did not think they were worth the $.
Gibson put the Gibson headstock on Epiphones in order to charge more for them. Fender can’t do that, so they put the Fender name on Squiers.
Nothings wrong with the country, it’s cheaper woods and materials reducing quality and in some countries it’s the same price as the player series.
I've got a few Indonesia made guitars; all of them good. All countries are capable of making good and bad guitars, always best to buy 'the guitar' and not 'the brand'.
LB missed that Fender also made Guitars in Korea for a while
And they were made in India for a short minute in the nineteen nineties.
$800 for a Squire Affinity,... that's just one reason.
Harley Benton ST62 for $150 kills it!
It’s a squire pro at most cheapening their brand. No reason to put Fender on it except to charge more for margins.
Those new Fender Standard are basically Squier Affinity rebranded.
I wouldn't pay that money for a cheap overpriced guitar. Even my Squier CV looks much better than those "fenders".
An old MIM Standard with a good set of pick-ups as upgrade would cost less and is a superior instrument.
Old MIM Standard? What about the MIM Standards made in the 90’s?
Fender marketing strategy.
The Indonesia made Standards are not as good as the Mexican made guitars which had alder and rosewood for most of the years.
I stick to Mex and USA.
It wouldn't be a problem if it were $150 cheaper.
Acoustasonic Standard will come out in April for $599
I honestly don't care where the instrument is made (assembled). My beef with the Standard is the value for money (but I don't care about the brand on the headstock either). I'm concerned Fender might make Squiers worse just to justify differentiating from the Fender Affinity... oops... Standard.
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