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Aaron Rodgers is overvalued, How important is the Clark-Reese rivalry for the WNBA? | THE HERD
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Mark Schlereth said on his podcast that Aaron Rodgers would be “sitting at the kids table” of all-time NFL great QBs. Colin Cowherd discusses Rodgers’ value in the NFL over his career, and how important the Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark rivalry is for the WNBA.
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Aaron Rodgers is overvalued, How important is the Clark-Reese rivalry for the WNBA? | THE HERD
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Didnt think you would mention how his defense would allow an average OF OVER 30 POINTS in those playoff loses
What about TB and SF. All of them aren’t on him. But he doesn’t show up when you need him tho.
@@tsflnationReally? Against Tampa a elite D he had 350 yds, 3 TDS, and a passer rating off the charts. Aaron Jones fumble in the open field for basically a scoop and score Td was a absolute killer and Kevin King still the worst graded CB grade in a Playoff game to this day. King was the reason Rodgers didn't get the ball with a chance to win the game.
@@ian1753 these people clearly have no idea what theyre talking about and they dont know football at all
womp womp
@@jring383 Lazy response. If you’re gonna respond then make a point instead of “you don’t know football”
Colin makes playing QB in the NFL sound like an individual sport.
Agreed 💯
Any honest SB winning QB would admit that Championships are an organizational accomplishment with a bit of luck.
He talked about 13 years of A-Rod play
@@melroze it’s also silly to use Brady and mahomes as the measuring stick.
Rodgers is overrated, just accept it lmao bro only made 1 superbowl 😂
Last night, in the last 30 seconds of the game, Reese called for the ball underneath and flopped for free throws so she could get to 10 points. That was after bricking two layups to get two of her own rebounds. This is why we don't care about her double-double streak. She is literally one of the most egregious stat padders we've ever seen.
She is terrible. Her WNBA career will be short-lived.
Can you repeat that? I couldn’t hear you properly with all those tears running down your face
She also had an open layup in half court offense where nobody guarded her at all not a single defender in 10 ft of her. That should never happen even at the high school level.
FACTS
Great job focusing on one game. Everybody overlooks when she has good shooting games and still gets double digit rebounds because it kills this weak argument. Every player has bad games. Get over it
Did you just say Aaron Rodgers doesn't have the mobility of Big Ben hahaha
Big Ben, in his prime, was just as effective as Josh Allen.
Prime Big Ben was more mobile then u think he was
@@Elmaestrojjj10you guys trying to sit here and say prime Ben was as or more mobile than rodgers is literally fkn insane. Go watch Aaron rodgers highlights. Jesus Christ the disrespect is dumb asf, pair of clowns right here🤡☝️
Big Ben was punishing and a complete beast in his prime.
Yes I totally agree he knocked people off of him but his Mobility was like wearing concrete shoes
It is funny how the Sky coach benched Cardoso, who is the #2 pick. Once Reese got her double-double, the coach sub her for Cardoso.
Not a Rodgers fan, but this take is kind of embarrassing. At least for once it’s mostly football related, but it still radiates with Colin’s weird personal vendetta against Rodgers.
Why did everyone expect more winning from Rodgers? Because of how great he is on the football field. If he won his Super Bowl now instead of early on, it’d be a completely different narrative.
Coaching has been average to good, defense has usually been bad, and special teams (except for Mason Crosby) has been an embarrassment.
The comparisons to Harden, Melo, and McGrady are so odd. It’s like Colin forgot that Rodgers won a Super Bowl.
More hate for Aaron, shocker…. He should get royalties for as much as you need him on your show. He is a great and all of his teammates have only loved him, facts. Defense has been trash in GB for years, starting tackles always hurt, head coach got fired cause he couldn’t coach and about to get fired again. Matt was a brand new coach and he never got a first flroins weapon, he’s a great, pump the brakes home slice.
Rodgers is very talented and has been an amazing QB. Colin is not disagreeing with that. His points are actually very valid.
He is a nut job and selfish. He just missed mandatory mini camp for the Jets. He is old and done.
He's a playoff choke artist outside of the one fluke SB run
No excuses. Dude couldn't win when it mattered most. Choke artist and awful personality. He's everything Brady is not.
@@bojangles11111 nah saying he isn’t an all time great is Ludacris
Rodgers is so overrated that literally every one of the videos you post to RUclips has his name in it lol. He owns yall
Aaron Bigcockers
He’s so overrated that his engagement seems to outperform any WNBA topic they have 😂
Arron blows
Yeah, Rodgers is a social media influencer now lmaoo.
And that’s a Fact………
Aaron Rodgers is the only person that can tear his Achilles and people will hold that year against him
These people are clowns bro
Fact
CC vs AR is incomparable to Magic vs Bird. I don't understand why media is making that comparison.
they just want to make the WNBA popular so they are doing anything they can to control the narrative to whatever they want for clicks and chatter
its a rivalry narrative nothing more
Colin I'm a big fan and a lot of it is because I appreciate your absolute insane takes like this one. Might not make any sense to anyone with half a brain but I find it super entertaining. Funny take on one of the best ever being overrated
hey, bring up the subject of offensive headcoaches being better than defensive ones, have only seen u say that 129 times
Mobility of Big Ben LMAOOOOO
What’s funny?? You’re clearly judging Big Ben from his last few years, which is shallow-brain stuff. Big Ben was an escape artist in his prime. He was definitely mobile. You need to go watch film
Ben in his prime wasnt mobile vertically but he was def mobile
@@buddysteele7624 Big Ben in his prime should’ve been in jail
@@buddysteele7624all of that is true and guess what? Big Ben was never a more mobile qb than prime Aaron Rodgers
@@lwshamilton44these people are clowns😂it’s embarrassing
There were years where the only reason Green Bay was even in the playoffs was because of Rodgers.
I have yet met someone in real life who talks about the wnba
Because it’s a bunch of men who are afraid to talk about woman’s sports irl. But the numbers don’t lie
"He had good coaches."
Lol Mike McCarthy.
Can’t wait for the season to start and see Colin’s reactions when the JETS win on the weekend
So, they win.
Guess what...they still have 16 more games to play.
@@EnterpriseNCC-1701the first half of the season is very winnable for them. Not to mention the division is currently a mess. They stole 3 wins against great teams last year with Wilson at QB. If you don’t think they are at least making the wild card, you’re not being objective
The Jets play Niners first. Good luck and go Niners!
@@zclan4130well on paper I can agree with that. However injuries are part of the game and while they upgraded the line in front of Rodgers are they going to be available. I have similar concerns about Miami’s line with Armstead and Wynn.
@@jacjr6193 injuries are always a factor but it’s not as predictable as we make it seem during the offseason. Sometimes it takes 1 injury to change the dynamic of any team, not just the jets
The first nasty hit Aaron takes on the jets could very well be a career ender. Wish he just retired, I don’t wanna see him go out like that
Since 2000, Rodgers has the worst Def/spec team EPA of any QB in the postseason with at least postseason 12 starts. (-16.8) Defense gave up an avg of 31 points per loss. Colin wants people to believe that hes the reason they lost in the playoffs.
Meanwhile Brady has 6 playoff games where he didnt throw for a single TD, and his teams still won 5 of them so he still gets the credit.
I’m a fever fan and I love them both and I’m pumped to see them go nuclear on the league in the all star game. They both got snubbed by Olympic committee
Colin your visceral behavior towards Rodgers AND Purdy is so obvious. Try harder to not show bias.
What would Colin do without a weekly news run on Aaron Rodgers? Always so negative but you clearly love the amount of engagement he brings to your show since you’re obsessed with talking about him. To say you “don’t care” about his vaccine status when that’s when all of media’s feelings shifted about him is laughable.
Aaron's overvalued??? Caleb Williams hasn't played an NFL down and you're already crowning him.
This is why I don’t listen to Colleen. You’re saying he’s like Marino as much as I love Marino and one of the all-time grades he never got a Super Bowl Aaron did so. You can’t put those two together slick
You just brought back the memories from when I unsubscribed from your channel…..
Packers used like 90% of their draft capital on defensive players and got absolutely obliterated by the better offenses every year. Packers relied too much on 2nd-class weapons just like they did with Favre. It works in the regular season with a strong QB, but then you struggle to win matchups consistently against the best defenses when you're always using 2nd/3rd/4th round receivers, middle round RB/TE's, and a hodge podge of drafted and undrafted players at OL. If the defense can't be a top unit despite being high picks at every position then what's the point.
Aaron Rodgers
1-0 in the super bowl
1-0 against myocarditis
The defense always wins championships you are so wrong with this it is hilliarious. Patriots elite defense chiefs elite defense steelers elite defense se the common thing here packers had a terrible defense and if you don't realize it you don't know football
@@We90909 preach!
Calling Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese a rivalry is crazy.
2-2 against each other, both setting records; they've had history in college where they each bested each other, why is it crazy?
@@OllieTube215Caitlyn winning the endorsement deal game easily. Angel is mad she ain’t getting Caitlyn money
@@edfa3706 what does endorsement deals have to do with literally anything I addressed? The conversation is about a rivalry, not who's making more money. Jordan had a signature shoe, but couldn't get past Bird. Because Larry wasn't as marketable Jordan was, is he less of an athlete? Of course not. Stick to the topic
@@OllieTube215 Magic and Bird's "rivalry" saved the NBA just like these ladies "rivalry" is saving the WNBA. Thing is that Caitlin addressed the "rivalry" between her and Angel. She said in so many words that she has no beef with Angel (Angel said the same thing btw) and the only ones who are calling it a rivalry is the media.
@@jmcgee39 I love both athletes & as much as Caitlyn wants it to not be a rivalry; it's a rivalry. She can't really dictate the narrative, all she can do is keep her head down & play
If only rodgers told his defense to not allow 30+ ppg. A true Qb would tell his defense to force turnovers and play lockdown defense💯💯
@@Kidkinsey you have to use withering sarcasm to make them look stupid.
"Carmelo gets lumped in with a Kobe Bryant" some extendo arm reaching to drive that last point home lol
Comparing Reese to either Magic or Bird is absolute insanity but I get what you are trying to say.
& caitlin isn’t 😂
Aaron Rogers must have given him the COLD🥶 shoulder yesterday at ⛳ course..😆or Rogers told him to get bent.
I disagree with this whole premise though. Superbowls are team accomplishments. MVP's and 1st team all pros are a much better barometer for individual contributions and skill (and Aaron looks pretty good in that light). That's why I still view Manning as the GOAT because he has 5 MVP's and was simply the most dominant QB game in and game out in his prime. Brady had better teams but Manning was a better QB, it was really obvious when you watched them play.
Perfect feed for Aaron’s revenge come back 😂
Bird did go to a bad team. The Celtics only won a lil over 20 games the season before bird.
Damn colin tell u how you really feel haha
If Colin was actually fair, he’d mention how many points the defenses gave up in most of those Packers playoff losses. Also, I think we see how Mike McCarthy is as a playoff coach. But sure, Aaron should have held the opposing offense to under 30 points.
He couldn't keep his own defense off the field by blowing drive after drive.
@@brianogrady3185 they don't know football
crazy how many people glaze rodgers for no reason. he has no intangibles, he's a terrible team guy, he has no definitive playoff moments. you make excuses for him literally all day even though we have SO MANY EXAMPLES of ACTUAL ELITE QBs winning the game despite overall team struggles or adversity. he's just not that guy. if he needs your excuses, he's not that guy.
Sounds like Aaron Rodger’s snubbed him at that event he mentioned. 😂
The disrespect of Aaron Rodgers is just asinine
Ok he hasn’t got the rings of Brady (7) or Manning or Elway (2), look at the individual awards and also how gifted this guy was
Aaron is the Marino of our generation and Marino was one of kind
People will still talk about Aaron Rodgers in 50 years
Talk about deez nuts
You get judged by titles. Not to mention he had many stacked teams in Green Bay and couldn't do squat.
@@HTHAMMACK1what stacked teams lmao? Defense was garbage.
@@HTHAMMACK1 "Stacked teams"
What teams were those? And he did more than "squat". He won a Super Bowl and went to the NFC Championship and went to the NFC Championship game five times. There is a pretty good case he is third greatest QB ever behind Brady and Manning.
@@HTHAMMACK1 The 2010 Packers was considered a stack team but they were close to missing the playoffs if Rodgers didn't come back from injury.
This man really said... Josh Allen is better than Aaron Rodgers
SMH !!!
BRUH Josh Allen is a clone of Dak Prescott
What? Bruh your silly af Josh Allen is wayyyy better than Dak.
Colin is right, Rodgers is the KD of football. A great player & all-time talent that should’ve had a greater career.
So KD is a four-time League MVP??
@@GODISGREAT_12 it’s not the perfect exact comparison but if you look at what their careers should’ve been it is disappointing they didn’t win more especially in the playoffs.
@@thetruth-gy2lc these are two different sports. KD can play defense in basketball. Aaron Rodgers CANNOT PLAY DEFENSE.
You said Team Sport… His defense gives up 33 pts in the playoff games he loses !!!
Excuses for AR CHOKING in the comments
“Now he’s like wildly crazy polarizing. I got no problem with that, I don’t care”
Colin’s nonstop anti-Rodgers videos would beg to differ.
And you're talking about his prime when Football was a big priority for him. Now it's at most fourth or fifth (behind hosting Jeopardy, running for vice president, or going to Egypt on vacation).
Here is the thing about Colin.... The moment Rodgers throws 3 TDs in a game he'll be the first one on Aaron Rodgers nuts.
That is the best analysis I've heard thus far on Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark. Thank you.
You know you can make an argument that the packers franchise historically choke in the playoffs? How long did it take for the packers to win again post Lombardi? So it’s all on Aaron? Ok 🤷♂️
How valuable is it?? It’s got you dropping a whole segment on it. That should tell you enough considering you never cover the WNBA Colin. 💯
If only more ppl thought like Colin.. I don’t care about your politics , your talented
Stop propelling this madness man. Angel Reese should not even be in the ROTY conversation. People talking her up cuz she 'puts up some numbers.' Come on man.
Aaron Rodger’s is Collin’s new Westbrook
Colin makes so much money that he just laughs and shrugs when called out on his bad takes.
Naw but the Bears were good during Rodgers prime… they had an elite defense all through Rodger’s prime. The year the Packers won the SuperBowl, the NFC title game was in Chicago.. lol Not to mention, the Bears went to the SuperBowl a few years before that. The North wasn’t that bad.
Although Magic and Bird is the best comparison. There’s another in a way; Andrew Luck and RGIII. RGIII won the Heisman and Rookie of the year but Luck went number 1 along with the better numbers.
RGIII has the fan base out of college but we knew Luck was the better QB.
Standard Rogers bashing, same as usual……
Colin, on one hand, I hear exactly what you're saying. On the Other, If you match up Clark's Stats with Reese's, Then Clark wins hands down,
And You must admit, Reese's Rebounds are Mostly on Her own Massive Missed Shots, Not on Rebounding her opponents missed Shots.
Colin: "Football is a team game"
Also Colin: "Rogers lost okayoff games on his own"
@@ShayneJellyman he doesn't make any sense 😂😂😂
If Aaron isn’t an all time great neither are John elway or Dan Marino 🤷
Colin calling anybody overvalued is hilarious 😂
Bro just compared angel reese and Clark to bird and magic 😂😂😂😂😂 comedy
The main difference with Magic and Bird is that they were both close on caliber of player. With Clark and Reese that’s not the case and it’s not close. Nobody likes the gaslighting.
I am a diehard vikings fan, the amount of times i’ve seen aaron play well in a playoff game but his defense gives up 30+ points and quite a few games where it was 40+ points is ridiculous. That 49ers game playoff game in 2021 he absolutely choked and that’s where the choking notion came from. But I can honestly say that almost every packer playoff loss I’ve seen from 2011-2021 was absolutely not on him and he got incredibly unlucky with special teams and defense selling the game for him
Bird / Magic was mystical because it was Boston / Lakers. However, people forget that Reese / Clark also brings in a new tradition, Chicago and Indiana both have basketball history and royalty. When we think Chicago we think b-ball. When we think Indiana we think b-ball. Not NFL, not MLB. David Stern and Adam Silver has to be salivating.
There is NO reality where I'm picking Reese to start a team over CC
Wait, you said Taylor Swift is a good songwriter? Bahaha...😂
As a Lifelong Detroit Lions fan I have to admit that QB Aaron Rodgers ruined a many Sunday dinner for me. The last few years there has been an obvious "fall off" mostly due to injury. ALL that said I do not believe that he deserves the disrespect that Colin is coughing up. However one may feel about Rodgers personal/off season issues I don't think it's fair to say he belongs at the kiddie table. That's just wrong. I don't know what Aaron Rodgers did to Colin Cowherd but ALL objectivity is gone.
If you played him in the playoffs yall would’ve won😂😂
People that care…., “I don’t care about any of this off the field stuff..”😂😂
Colin is on his 17th booster.
He literally did an entire segment to trash Aaron Rogers..then said I’m not criticizing
This was LAUGHABLE 😂😂😂he contradicted himself so much here!
Just here to say that I have been a fan of Colin’s since his radio ( only) days at ESPN- but his obsession with Arron Rogers is lowering himself to the Skip Bayless level of sports. Duh, Rogers isn’t as successful as Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes- who is? Colin, you sure you want to take Skip’s role?
Leaving Eli manning out of that superbowl graphic is tragic
The Rodger’s slander is ridiculous. He won a Super Bowl. He had a middling defense most of his career. He is an all time great end of story
How can you overvalue a 1st ballot HOF?
I know Jmac punching the air listening to Collin rip apart Aaron and thr Jets
So basically he admitted its about race😂😂
Man said no one’s anti Rodgers or anti Jets 😂
Defense wins championship, packers never had great defenses, except the year they won the superbowl
Ding ding ding
Why would it be a snubb to Clark if Reese wins?
There was a respect between Magic and Bird. Reese is too concerned about look at me..
Never expected to hear the words “Kanye made Taylor”
Hard to believe people are still sleeping on CC. That's OK.
The Melo hate is crazy. For some reason he can’t keep his name out his mouth
Am I missing something something? What brand does Aaron have?
Colin finally admits Big Ben is better than Rodgers!!! My day is made! And facts!
"I dont care" proceeds to talk about it every segment
Colin is right again ✅
No, Magic won that when he beat Bird in a championship setting for the 3rd time.
To say angel reese is a better overall player than Caitlin Clark? Like do you watch them both play?
Marino had stability, seriously? Marino used to be the all-time leader in 4th qtr comebacks because the Dolphins defenses couldn't stop anybody.
Colin definitely cares about the stuff he's saying he doesn't care about
Magic and Bird were equal in ability and skill… that is not the same scenario here… people are through the manufactured rivalry
Colin comes back from vacation with the same old man rant.
This is what you think about on your long walks on the beach? 😬
Another day another Rodgers and Clark segment
Colin… buddy… the swifties are about to come for your head 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
Aaron Rodgers disrespect has to stop, he’s one of the greatest ever. He might not be anymore, idc if he went 0-16 every season he is one of the greatest ever,