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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2019
- The SOLVED case of millionaires Mac and Muff Graham, found deceased on Palmyra Atoll Island. Unravel the mystery alongside the FBI's greatest law enforcers and forensic scientists.
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Season 1 Episode 5: Two couples found themselves on the same desert island, but only one couple made it out alive. Buck Walker and Stephanie Sterns arrived back in Hawaii on the 'Sea Wind', which belonged to the missing couple, San Diego millionaires Mac and Muff Graham.
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I wouldn't have been bragging about the food stash in front of a couple of townies who couldn't gather coconuts. The inevitable happened.
If a woman tells you she's getting bad vibes from a man and is afraid, but you think you'll be fine because you have a gun, shut up and trust her instincts. Even if you're a woman too and you feel everything is fine, you should take her concerns seriously.
Obviously the people who do the killing are still the ones at fault though, I'm not blaming the victims.
Privacy lover: In your first sentence you say" trust her instinct".I think it should be "trust her intuition".
I agree. Anytime I’ve ever felt something was off, it was. My ex husband had that same intuition. When he felt something was wrong, it was. Soon as I feel something is wrong, I leave wherever I am. I immediately write it down or tell someone else that something was wrong. If folk’s would only listen to the concerns of others, these folks would still be alive. Everyone including the wife knew something was wrong and the husband thought he was a tough guy. His ignorance costed them their life. Not victim blaming either. How many red flags need to be seen before listening to it? What a shame. I hope they find his body. It’s sad the fbi still has Muffs body as no one ever claimed it. 🙏🏽🕊️🕊️
Thank you to the witnesses who showed up from around the world that made a big difference to the case and serving justice!
I don't care if it was 1972, Mac's stubbornness was stupid, of course. Staying past the time when everybody else had left, late in the season, and not listening to Muff's and Kurt's concerns, was dismissive and it was the first step that led to his and Muff's deaths.
They certainly make out Mac to be a bit of a niave fool
@@patricksobb5762 it seems literally everyone else had a bad feeling, even the friend on the radio in HI
He thought he could take him on 🙄🔫
unfortunate sobriquet that, Muff.
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I would have left that island so fast, especially when these bums didn't have basic supplies....
Yeah! Fucker takes half a pack of cigarettes, when asked for 1!
when they showed up with their boat, the other mariners should have called the coast guard and scuttled the weed boat
indeed. the handwriting was on the fucking wall. what did the old people think was going to happen??? DUUUUHHHHH!!!
Where is the Logic, and reason? Yes tell tale sign of a total scumbag
@@phyllisdevries5734 How do they know this though? They can't... don't forget this is TV dummy.
Note to self - when you see a man shooting at fish with a pistol, stay clear.
ackmin. o
A couple planning to live off the resources of an island never brought fishing gear for some reason.
Hey now. I've done it! I don't advise it unless the fish is less than 12 inches below the surface or the bullet won't penetrate with many guns. We use to get some large catfish that way when the water released from the damn stopped flowing and the river below nearly dried up and had a few deep pockets with the fish stuck in them.
@@nunyabuisness7552 - when I lived in eastern Montana, I used to go to some pretty wild parties. One night at a friends house, two locals were arguing over the fact that one foot of water could stop a .357 bullet? With alcohol being involved, the argument got pretty heated. One of the guys went into the bathroom and shot a hole right thru the center of the toilet. Porcelain exploded all over and he proudly stated that he was correct in his theory that 12" wouldn't stop it... wild times out in that part of the country lol.
lol !!!perfect !!!!
Shocking!! Sad that the husband didn't heed his wife's instincts. She was afraid and wanted to leave. It reminds me of another appalling story. The owners of the "Well Deserved", who were trying to sell their boat and were duped by fake 'buyers' who'd plotted to kill the couple and steal the boat. In that case, the couple was tied to the anchor and thrown overboard, alive! That story shocked me to the core. It's hard to comprehend how evil some monsters are!
yes! i watched that show a couple of years ago & it left such a creepy feeling with me. there was another horrific 'at sea' crime that affected me, 1989, a mother, joan rogers, & her 2 teenage daughters were on a vaca in fl. the dad stayed home to manage the farm in ohio. they asked a stranger for directions while traveling in tampa fl, struck up a friendly convo & he invites them all for a cruise on his boat. NO NO NO, thank you but no, im screaming at the screen! who does that?! going on a complete stranger mans boat with your 2 daughters???!!! talk about a NAIVE mother! he rapes them, then throws them all overboard tied to concrete blocks ALIVE to drown. the bodies surface, hes convicted because they find his # in their car on a scrap of paper. he was also convicted of a rape of another woman same scenerio, a boat ride. he approached her & her girlfriend, the friend refused but the one went. he wanted sex, she refused, he raped her. she was lucky enough, he didnt kill her. both women id him when he was caught for the murder. he was put to death in 1994. hes been convicted after death thru dna of another woman s murder & is suspected of many more as far back as the 1960s. there is so much evil among us. use your head, beware of 'nice' strangers. refuse invitations that can put you at risk. tmi??? well, 3 months in lockdown here, so i could talk an hour about why cheeze doodles are shaped like that! lol.
@@aanon5716 It's horrific what happens to some unsuspecting people. I totally agree. NEVER, EVER go with strangers. And most especially out on a boat where there is no way to escape. Lockdown is over in New Zealand thank God.
@@aanon5716 Trust NO one!
@@justme33126 happy 4 u. we r still restricted...except for the protesters & rioters.
I remember the story about the "Well Deserved" which was very ending for that lovely couple.
If you've spent months mooching off me on a deserted island and you roll up talking about I have a cake I'm gonna be suspect as hell!
@Джейсон Хичкок thanks for the English lesson, but I meant suspect! Suspect or sus is slang for being suspicious!
Well Maryann made coconut cream pies for Gilligan.Just sayin :)
@Alan Baird 😂😂😂
@@CrystalSmith-uk6hdlol ur caught buddy just take it like a man. Yeah suspect does mean that but u didn't write it right. "I'm gonna be suspect don't make sense buddy. If ur gonna use the word "suspect" it should've been something like "i suspect them to have bad intentions" not "I'm gonna be suspect too". Dumbass
Grabbing half a pack of ciggs on 1st meeting?
it's funny how she comes up with a "perfectly innocent" story, just after running like hell to avoid capture by authorities.
Tell you it cane of funny
I bet Brian Laundrie will have one too
I wonder where she was running ? 😆😆
@@rkrmtest Maybe she was petrified after seeing a man she thought she knew murder two people savagely whilst alone on the then deserted island apart from her and the mad pyschotic murdering lunatic. It is not unheard of for a woman to feel a little afraid at such. Nor for some men. So seeing two burly big male stragers clearly looking towards her and heading in her direction she concluded to just 'high tail' it out of there. Her primary thoughts at the time were to get as far from her villenous partner or ex-partner as fast and as far as she could. It was likly the very first time she was not surrounded by sea or ocean near him. So seizing the moment she was watching at that time for her oppunity for escape. Then a sudden problem of two unanounced stangers occured and she paniced. Ran to get away from her maliciouse ex-husband or husband who'd recently murdered two people and taken their yacht. Did he also have a loaded pistol gun. So she may have wanted to be as far away from him just in case he started using it. Some wives may agree it does not look too good to be standing near or with in 100 yards of a mad husband whilst he is shooting people in full sihjt of witnesses. So where she was running to was away. Fleeing from danger. Or fleeing from the problem or potencial problem No plan about destination as destination is any place but there. In the heat of the moment situation we often may make not premediated planned actions. So the action was just to get away. IDK. I wasn't there. So just saying.
@@MikeGreenwood51 hmm, let us say she is one of those optimistic people in the world, who think of getting away from danger, even when it is inevitable!
Even though I respect Vincent Bugliosi's work, there was no way that Stephanie Stearns should have been acquitted. You're on island where two people eventually end up dead, and **you** end up with *their* yacht, and they're nowhere to be found until the remains of one of the missing owners turns up in a metal box??!!
And by some stretch of the imagination, it was asserted by defense that Ms. Stearns was *not* an integral part of the death & disappearance of these two people??!! Come on now--she was either an accomplice before the fact, or an accomplice after the fact, but she was *definitely* more than just an unwitting participant who was under the sway of Buck Walker. **No one is that oblivious!!!**
i agree. i CANT believe she was acquitted.
she was definitely, if not actively involved in the actual torture & murder of them, knowingly went along with whatever he wanted, reaped all the rewards sailed away on someones boat, wore muffs clothes, ate their food drank their liquor, etc... & she stayed with him after the murders. she never came forward after the murders to report anything either. tom bucy wrote a book 'final argument' showing what a shit show the trial was. stearns was caught in so many lies. i think old bugliosi got suckered by a conniving she wolf. lol. some updates=murderer buck walker got paroled after only serving 22 yrs( thats an insult to the dead)& died 3 yrs later in 2010,age 72 still claiming his innocence to his friends among his trailer park neighbors, if you can believe people befriended him?! stearns would be in her 70s also, hope shes suffering wherever she is. macs body was never found & muffs bones remain w/the fbi. i guess no one claimed her for burial, which is too sad.
We have the luxury of watching this as a dramatised episode so we get convinced she was guilty. The court case doesn't play out like that. It's evidence and not perceptions that are taking into account. Plus defence lawyers are a different breed and tell convincing lies is what they do. She like sucked him off good too because that's what females do.
Yes but she could have just gone along with it
still doesn't mean that she should have been acquitted
It's called a pussy-pass.
She had an incredibly good defense lawyer. His book is a great read without a doubt. However, when all is said and done, how probable is it that Buck Walker was able to overpower, kill, dismember two grown adults, pack their remains into two large aluminium containers, get them into an inflatable boat and dump them in a lagoon, all on a tiny atoll without Stephanie knowing? Utterly unbelievable.
Also unbelievable his type of "impatient" personality traits (shooting fish and chainsawing down palmtrees) was somehow able to sail through about 1,000 miles of Pacific ocean unsupported in a small sailboat. This case baffles me.
Articulate post, Ruby. Years ago I read Vince's book and stay fascinated even now. Gone back and forth with Stephanie's guilt. Finally came to the same conclusion as yours. Logical questions need logical answers. Just like the ones you pose. And not one answer Stephanie gave was logical. Still feel bad that those good, honest, hard-working people met the fate they did.
Right, exactly! She had to take part in the murders! There's NO way that people would just leave their own yacht and just run away pfft. What a crock of 💩 that is 🙄
Bugliosi's argument that the presumed location of the murders was at precisely the point in the lagoon where Stephanie's view would have been obscured was very compelling. Bugliosi was certainly arrogant, but his closing argument was just magnificent, and to me, convincing.
@@twown There is absolutely no doubt that Bugliosi was a masterful defense laywer and as you say, his closing argument was compelling. Conversely, the prosecution team was not in the same league and in many respects I think that they handed the result to Bugliosi. Notwithstanding Bugliosi's skill, I still struggle to believe Stephanie's innocence - it is simply beyond comprehension that she was unaware of Buck's actions. The physical act of overpowering, killing, dismembering two grown adults on a quiet island, literally a couple of hundred yards from Stephanie without her knowledge is for me, impossible to believe. That's before you consider her behaviour after they left the island and leading to her eventual capture. Often the simplest answer is the right one. It is a facinating story whichever way you look at it!
So sad the old man was way too trusting. I know people who just can’t accept that another person would do something awful to them.
"Old Man?" He was only 43 years old when he was murdered.
They grew up like over protected kittens.
@@doorguru168888Nope, 53
@@brandiator-ioyou’re correct. I own a signed hardcover copy of Vincent Bugliosi book ‘And the Sea Will Tell’ and have read it more than once or twice. I seem to remember them being in their 50s. Book is far better than a short crime drama. Highly recommend.
Yes.. naivety often gets people killed or injured.
That foot pursuit scene took me out 😂🤣
Yeah! 😂😂
Reminded of old Steven Segal movies. Bad guys are running, he seems to walk and all of a sudden he appears in front of them...lol
Yes girl. It reminded me of Jason off Friday the 13th. She was sprinting. His ass barely moved and still caught her ass....lol
EXACTLY 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
"And The Sea Will Tell" is the book about this story. It's a really great read!
There's also a movie about it on RUclips with Richard Crenna.
GREAT JOB BY THE FBI. BUCK N STEPHANIE WENT ON A TRIP WITHOUT ENOUGH PROVISIONS FOR THEMSELVES. THE HAVE A NOAT NOT FIT FOR THE TRIP. THANK GOD THEY WERE FOUND GUILTY OF MURDER.
It was, I still have that book. Those poor ppl who were murdered. And that girl was not innocent. She played stupid like a fox.And got away with it.How could she not have known something happened to them.??? She was a white collar worker, she wasn't stupid.
Agree. I just read the book. And yes she played dumb. What a lying murderer! I posted above more thoughts.
at least murderer buck walker served 22 yrs before being paroled, (should have died in prison) but his diabolical girlfriend got away with murder & thats the conclusion i came away with after reading all i could about the case. that being said, on another note, i am a firm believer in human intuition & i know in listening to my own, it has saved me from some dangerous situations. when the grahams witnessed the bizarre & off putting behavior of that vagrant couple, they should have been on their guard & wasted no time in leaving the island. maybe because i grew up in the city, have traveled & have street wise parents who always clued us in on hinky behavior & how to steer clear of dubious situations, im always looking with both eyes wide open. there are many wonderful beautiful people but there are just as many that are not.
good word, that; hinky
a anon Diabolical is a a good word for her. What an airhead lying witch! I also read the book and there’s no doubt she’s guilty. Even Vince’s wife obviously thought so
Far to many people see the world logically. Its nice to come across another intuitive.
Stephanie knew what happened because she did not stick to one story plain and simple
Guess where lawyers go after they die.
Alexander Kim If they consume enough children’s blood they never die.
He couldn't have moved those metal boxes without her.
she participated from the planning to the murder itself to disposing of the bodies
@@alexanderkim1337 to a place of all the suffering and injustice that they promote and cause
the Grahams should have got the hell out of dodge
😅Right!
My father used to say dont ignore the warning
But they weren't in Dodge. They were on an island. Did you even watch this?
@@jessickalush3305 yup
Their pride wouldn't allow them to leave...They also spend too much money too let it go ...That's just like Some stranger telling you to Get out of your home...
Is it just me or is that loud background music too loud and annoying?
Yes I agree
Yes...it is terrible to hear
Didn't bother me too much. Other productions are much worse.
Not bad to me
Try the Real Stories channel for an example how much worse it can get
Walker was released on parole in September 2007 at the age of 69, after serving 22 years of a life sentence, and died of a stroke on April 26, 2010 at the age of 72. And by the way.. a lot of comments incorrectly describing the Grahams as an "Old Couple" .. Mac was 43 and Muff was 40 when they were murdered.
They are depicted as much older (by older actors?) in this video!
Does anyone know that guy wrote a book? Apparently some kind of OJ in reverse.... ("How I 'didn't' do it...)
Well that's prolly because this doc is making them look old asf 🤣
Awesome. Finally someone posts a factual comment on the case presented.
Thanks
I hate when the female accomplices get a lighter sentence. Why? They did it together. Who's to say it wasn't her behind it all along pushing her boyfriend to 'be a man' or whatever. Who's to say she didn't pull the trigger after boarding the yacht? She brought the cake over on the boat after all. She tried to run and hide, behind a plant, lol. Then lied to the cops. Equality my ass.
i agree. sometimes the guilty get an influential atty & a dumb jury. ie. O.J. & casey anthony in recent memory.
Equality for women has never meant be prosecuted for every crime David. Unless we know every detail, we can't say for sure, but we certainly know that bad men are bad to women, & there's every chance he forced her into actions. Where would she have turned for help on the island? Your inherent sexism is showing because this angers you so much.
we also have to remember that law often gives the 1st person to talk, less time.
I know it's b*******
If you research this case beyond this video, you'll find this wasn't a gender issue as much as it was a money issue. The female had wealthy parents who bought her a good lawyer. The male had a public defender. Had the male been the wealthy one, he would have gotten away with a slap on the wrist and a diagnosis of "affluenza." Money talks regardless of race, religion, gender, age, blah blah blah...
He placed too much faith in his gun, and obviously had lived a good life without coming across the really down-and-out-of-luck.
The SF coroner completed the FBI's analysis. The dead were 43 and 40, much younger than the show led me to believe.
She gave conflicting and implausible stories about how they acquired the boat and the FBI couldn't get a conviction. Goes to show how difficult it is to convict someone of a crime.
Stephanie is guilty!
she will have to face the consequences when she meets them on the other side...
Ater reading the book, i have the same feeling. She might have been a psychopath..
@@seawynd99 That's right. Mac and Muff will be waiting at the pearly gates with a chainsaw and acetylene torch.
No matter how tough you are, you cannot be tougher than a bullet. I hate people who act as if toughness or a sense of it is all you need to survive.
Yeah and it got his wife killed too
FACTS ! He had 2 choices to survive. Leave or bait Buck to the other side of the island, put a bullet in his head and feed him to the sharks. His downfall was he didn't know he was dealing with a psychopath. Leave or ambush first.
Or by having a gun your “TOUGHER”
The Grahams should have left those two on the atoll, and called for help on their behalf if they were concerned about their wellbeing.
What I find extremely weird with this case, is that a stoner-murderer who couldn't gather enough energy or have enough patience to find a viable non-violent method to get some coconuts down, somehow managed to sail almost through a thousand miles nearly unsupported in the Pacific?! This isn't an easy task.
I thought that was pretty impressive also...I wouldnt be able to do it.
The pos DIDN'T do that. He laid on his sorry azz, crying like a lil B about seasickness. SHE DID IT !
Maybe he was a better sailer than coconut gatherer. After all he managed to get there in a boat that was less than ideal,
The movie indicates that Stephanie did the navigation and most of the sailing.
I remember, what a waste of a beautiful tree. No respect. These red-necks like to wreck everything.
When he snatched all of those cigarettes I was like oh hell no. I would've been buried that day because I would have went OFF
Yeah everybody talking about the sigarettes, yet there is no way they can even know that xD. It's TV honey..
@@mmaniaq8372 he told his friend via radio
@@mmaniaq8372 There were others on that Island at some point that lived and are able to tell...
@@anthonyjones634 they can say whatever they want. Nobody knows for sure
@@mmaniaq8372 right, you could've been on that Island and no one would know for sure..
Watching those two actors attempt to row that boat was hilarious
Just watched this on The FBI Files. Awful what happened to the nice older couple. Horrible couple of scumbags that pair. How she only got a short sentence initially is a joke. Rest in peace Mr and Mrs Graham.
This is the FBI Files.
She had Bugliosi as an attorney and I am sure the family paid heavily for him... he got her off. That's why they call it capital punishment. If you have the capital, you avoid the punishment.
@@ackmino I’ve read Bugliosi’s book. If you accept that Buck was guilty, you have to also accept that Jennifer/Stephanie was guilty too. It is untenable to believe that he could have committed the murder without her knowledge on such a small island and covered his tracks. The court transcript also shows that her memory about those facts that support her innocence seemed very clear. She was very vague about those that don’t.
The book is great
@@ackmino Well said. She does deserve life though.
the real buck looks like a villain from a cartoon
Yep 😅
Worse! That dude is one shady lookin' hombre...no way I would've stayed on that island alone with that guy lurking around. Using a pistol to fish & a chainsaw to retrieve coconuts maybe a red flag or 2 going on there...
Yep the actor was too nice looking.
He’s odious
@@michaelscott1658 ok
Where in the sam hill did she come up with a cake?
lol. Good question
She had traded for the flour and had made bread and cakes for others from time to time. This video leaves out a whole lot, and many innacuracies. Check out the Vincent Bugliosi book. There's a lot more to it all than is given here. No way to squeeze it into an hour long episode I'm sure.
Romulus Remus hey thanks for that suggeston
It was a sand cake.
@@romulusremus7537 It’s one of my favorite books of all time - at least for the true crime genre -- it still resonates with me. Romanticizing living on ‘a deserted island’ as a kid, i was enlightened to read the full descriptions of reality: bug bites, the heat, shark infestation, challenges of growing food, no communication, reality of the oceans & sailing, etc - even the best survivalist would have to be highly skilled & educated on that environment.
Then I loved the legal wrangling even though I believe The woman (Jennifer I think is her real Name) knew exactly what has happened and likely helped.
What a story. Bugliosi may have been egotistical, but he was a hell of a writer.
There were so many red flags...
Even their friends tried to warn them and they didn't take heed. Once I saw him cutting down the coconut tree and got pissed when not to do so I would be done.
bobfryfish 😂 really the understatement but best comment on the entire thread. You are the reason I love the comment section
Slowest FBI agent I've ever seen 80 year old man is right on his tail wow i'm surprised they even caught either of them
Updates: Buck Walker was paroled from federal prison in 2007. He died in 2010 after suffering a stroke.
Thanks, I was just about to look it up. What happened to his wife?
If you are a bad person, you don't live long on this earth!! Only their maker has to deal with their souls!!!!
@@rosedumassi4429 That is not necessarily true. Some evil people live to be a ripe old age. Maybe God is giving them more time to repent of their wickedness, who knows?
@@WindDancer435 oh! Lala Shelala you are right at that point . Anyway I know several of those wrong doing guys whose lives are caught short. Thanks.
No great loss there.
If Stephanie was unaware of the Graham’s murder,how did she think the boat was procured? How the heck was she proven innocent??
You don't have to prove innocence. The burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove guilt.
I just finished reading Bugliosi’s book. I knew about this case for years and just got around to reading it. It’s a great book - an engrossing mystery. Bugliosi was a good attorney but I believe Stephanie was guilty! It’s infuriating she got off! I’m glad others think so as well.
Vince’s summation was delivered perfectly and from the outset given the information, it could lead someone to believe she was innocent. However there are several things that can be picked apart:
- Just because the bodies - at least Muff’s - were thrown in the Lagoon vs the open ocean doesn’t mean Buck was trying to hide them from Steph. Given Muff’s body was dismembered, placed in a trunk and wire was placed around it means Buck and possibly Steph went to great lengths to conceal the body! It was a miracle the trunk washed up and the remains spilled out and that someone even found them! Im sure Buck and Steph weren’t expecting that.
- Steph’s diary entry about eating the Grahams food was so callous! And she wrote it only days after being supposedly “ frantic” over M&M being missing. Vince stated what were they supposed to do, let the food rot? Well maybe not but Steph also didn’t need to write that entry how they were getting fatter and fatter and eating all the foods they hadn’t had in a while and then mentioning the foods along how they’re dogs were eating. That’s motive in my mind. Vince tried convincing the jury that Buck and Steph were fine eating the food off the land and they’d be going to Fanning to get more food, but if that were the case why did Steph make a big deal about them eating the food on Sea Wind and getting fatter and fatter? Obviously it did bother them they had no food. That’s motive, not only on Buck’s part, but hers as well!
-Vince tried saying Curt was lying about the cake truce on the 28th and tried discrediting him and Bernie, but Curt sounded the alarm that something was wrong, he asked his friend Martin to fly over Palmyra to see if M&M were there and then both of these two men kept pushing the authorities to look into it. These men had nothing to do with the murders but look at their actions compared to Steph’s when she and Buck returned to HI. They both had the boat repainted and Steph even said she wanted part of it in Lavender so she considered the boat hers too - it wasn’t just Buck’s boat as Vince tried telling the jurors. Steph also made no attempt to contact the HI authorities because she knew they’d take the boat away she said. Then when confronted with the Coast Guard she also tried getting away! She only started talking after she was caught. You see the big difference in the way she acted after they returned to HI vs the way Curt and Bernie acted. And Steph was the one on Palmyra when M&M disappeared.
- Steph said they found $400 on the Sea Wind then mentioned where they found it - some was found inside a book and the rest in Mac’s wallet which was under the floor board, I believe. That money wasn’t out in the open - those two losers obviously SEARCHED the Sea Wind for that money!! And why did they need to do that when the boat was filled with food? That could be another motive. Steph also said “we” found the money so she searched as well. Vince tried putting everything onto Buck but Steph was in on a lot of it.
There’s more including all her lies!
I wish Enoki would have brought up the above information picking it apart and I also wish Enoki had put that guy George Gordon on the witness list in the beginning.
Unfortunately Steph is still alive and lives in a nice on HI. What a disgusting woman and a double murderer!
That guy missed a chance to name his boat Muff Diver
please try to consider the families...your comment is pathetic!
How could have Buck hid the murders from Stephanie? It's an island with only the 4 on it. Stephanie was seen on the stolen vessel and she was running from the cops......so she knew she was guilty of something and I highly doubt Buck could keep 2 murders from her on that island.
Read the book. It was an atoll with many small islands. Also, the voice of dissertation takes a lot of liberties with the story, which simply aren't true, but *gasp* why rely on reality? Read the book.
I just read the book and she’s guilty! What a lying disgusting space cadet! Shame on this jurors
@@georgialee6755 No, you didn't.
Why would she try to hide behind a plant if she was so innocent?!
He brought the chainsaw along to cut down those huge marijuana trees he was growing. Ah...I doubt it.
that moment when buck received more years for stealing a boat, than other people get for raping a child. I'm glad that they managed to charge them for murder in the end
It should have been obvious that being rich was not an advantage in that scenario. Very sad.
Whoever ends up in possession of a murdered couple's yacht is automatically guilty in my book. Especially if they neglect to file a missing persons report with authorities when they undoubtedly KNOW that the couple is missing.
Boat was painted etc. But I do so love karma an those people floating up it's amazing they found them but so sad .
"I'm tougher than he is". Make sure to put that on mac's tombstone would ya.
Testosterone poisoning claims another victim (and his spouse)
@@healgoth not testosterone but ego. A real man, no matter how tough, would attempt to avoid the confrontation because they know even the best and toughest can get "got".
Mack grams stubbornness to leave the island when his friend told him to leave got him killed!
Muff told him to as well. And so did two other guys who stopped on the island and for a few days
What a disgusting example of how women get away with it!
Meanwhile men are sent to prison all the time for life terms, as accomplices, simply for being in a getaway car or for concealing evidence
Only because she was rich..
How was he able to get out after just 22 years? His rap sheet was extensive.
it's far worse than you know.
DETAILS NOT IN THE VIDEO ,..."NOT FOR YOUNG READERS.
The criminal couple had a dog with them that had attacked the other boaters before being alone with mac and Muff.,.. this is important, you'll see why." they actually missed this in the investigation.
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The skull was found with animal scratches and insect damage,.. there is not a single animal on the atoll... the bite marks were from the dog.
the film they reference there in the video recovered from her camera leaves out the disgusting part,.. on that roll of film the couple had taken pictures of them both having sex with that dog.
This too is important....
Buck had claimed while in prison a version of the story that was a lie ,. but he did it because he was ignorant of how DNA evidence worked.
he claimed he had an affair with muff... and was discovered and that the husband had accidentally shot her as she was on top of buck.
and that Mac had tried then to kill buck but the gun jammed,..now the important party he made that particular evidence because he feared his DNA from his sperm might be discovered.
the couple did poison the Grahams with rat poison buck had found while exploring the island.
But this did not kill them ,.. they had offered a cake as a truce offering,. of course, poisoned.
It did however incapacitate them.
They dragged the Grams onto the beach off the zodiac that they claimed had turned over.
They tied them hand and foot and tortured both sexually using the dog... where the bite marks on the skull came from.
It is unclear if the dog actually killed them but at the very least it had mangled them both badly.
At some point, Buck shot muff in the head to ensure she was dead.
they took the two metal containers from the "boat" and placed the bodies into them ,.. dragged them into the water not wanting to leave evidence at the site of the burning.
they burned them both to disguise the bodies if found.
Then buck tied a rope to both containers then to the back of the zodiac,. and tried to tow the metal cases that had been wrapped in wire to keep them close, his plan was to take them out of the lagoon but by this time it was late at night and he missed the point in the reef he could exit the lagoon from .
as a result, he ran the zodiac over the reef and the first container snagged and the tow rope broke.
depositing both containers to float in the lagoon,..which then sank there .... this too is important,.. neither bodies could ever on their own float out of that shark-infested lagoon.
The lowest possible place is 12 feet from the bottom and it is a sharp sheer underwater cliff face the sunken containers could never be swept up and over while submerged.
On the way back Buck had penned this long-winded excuse for having the boat to the graham family...in the hope he could legitimize having it
Saying he had intended to bring the boat back to them and was towing it to Hawaii.
But claimed his own craft had sunk and he had to fail the "stolen" boat back .
He went on to say it was because he was towing his own craft behind the "stolen" one that his sunk and felt he should keep the "stolen" oat,..andsaid something about salvage laws and hoped they would understand and give him their blessing,..
The letter was never delivered but was found on the stolen oat.
wait for it ,.. can you figure out where Mac still is?
page down for the answer,..
Mac's metal container was never found in the lagoon for good reason ,.. the atoll was formed by volcanic activity as most are ,.. in that lagoon, there are many underwater lava tubes.
the only place that Mac's body and the metal container could be is in one of those tunnel-like tubes,.. after shifting around the bottom of the lagoon as Muff's container had ,.. Mac's by chance slid into the open mouth of one of those tubes, with no current of water pushing out of them it just got pushed further and further into it till it wedged tight...and there is where one could find Mac today ,.. If one were a brave cave diver not afraid of a very large shark population.
Cave diving is a very very specific skill,.. the tubes have never been explored by cave divers ... but they would still find the box there ,.. it could've proven to be Mac by his school ring that has never been located,.. since there is no exit current anything that went in stayed in and ids most likely in the box or beside it.
the odd thing about the box ,.. the part of it being on the boat is a lie they told for reasons I don't know ,.. uck had actually taken the metal containers from these concrete storage sheds the military had left on the beaches on the west side o the island,.."don't ask me why they claim the boat publicly but that's where buck got them "said so himself" and exact matches were found in those sheds with two missing that buck used,..either way the boxes where aluminum and would still be there intact after all these years
p.s. how do I know all this you may ask,.. in 2011 I helped the only man to interview Buck ,.. he wrote a book with bucks bs story ,.. and had access to all of the case file info as well as the only person Busk talked to ,.." he wanted to find Mac ,.. so I found him for the writer using the evidence, someday I hope Mac is recovered,.. his family deserves to bury him.
@@infinitejest441 he was white, that’s why….
@@projecttruthrbg1697 and she was just "a wittle white girl" That B knew what he was and LIKED IT. Birds of a feather..........
Came here from Stephanie Soo’s podcast, poor Muff she had gut feeling something bad would happen, but her husband didn’t listen to her. Also it’s said her remains were being displayed in classes??? I hope she had the proper burial she deserved! RIP
If only the friend had acted on his guts earlier when they missed their annual call, just maybe more evidence would have been obtained. -Sigh- Rest in peace :(
The friend Curt did a lot! I give him and Bernie a lot of credit! Nothing else he would have done was going to matter
youtube commenters with hindsight are the smartest and most wise lifeform known to exist
According to this in 1985 no one knew how to use their legs or stride to run. That has to be the worst foot pursuit of a cop chasing a suspect I’ve ever seen on a TV show. 😳 Superb Acting
Omg I said the same thing
Police in 1985 = DONUTS!
I kept wondering why the elderly man was in front?
Lol totally agree lol.
this show is very low budget, I bet they told everyone to run in exaggerated slow motion with the aim of speeding up the film... which obviously didn't happen, so we see the raw footage.
What is it with these videos that the actual peoples voices can be heard ok but the narrator's voice volume decreases?
I think it's something to do with software compressing the audio, it seems to happen a lot and it's annoying as hell!
@747Fan. Conspiracy?
@Ejuice Vaper I guess I just have really good hearing, because I keep seeing people complain about the audio on these, yet it has not once entered my mind as something wrong. I can hear everything perfectly fine just like any other documentary 🤷
From one look we knew he is a monster with no brain. Should have escaped from island after the coconut incident.
They were warned by several people including her dear mother (so sad). He was hard headed "I'm tougher" famous last words? He paid for his stubborness with 2 lives
Always trust your instincts. Always!
@@jackremington3397 Always! Your instincts are always right.
When he snatched all of those cigarettes I was like oh hell no. I would've been buried that day because I would have went OFF
have you guys seen the movie with Richard Crenna and rachel ward very good I think its called "And the sea will tell" gripping
yes, james brolin played mac & deidra hall-muff. it was based on vincent bugliosi's (helter skelter author, charles manson prosecutor) book, "& the sea will tell". bugliosi was then in private practice, defended sterns & got her acquitted. i believe her to be guilty in participating in the murders from all ive read about the case.
Thank you. Will find it
I'll look it up. I like Richard Crenna.
It's now been posted on RUclips. The uncut version with Muff's head being cut off with the chainsaw is in Russian. The cut version is in English.
Brian That’s the bane of the book too
That has got to be the most automatic looking .22 revolver I've ever seen a man fish with.
1:08 A small, uninhabited island, almost a thousand miles from nowhere. What?
Stupid to cut down the coconut tree 🌳 just to get a coconut on an island with limited food resources
🌴🐢🐟🐚🐙🐚🐟🐢🐊🦎
Must've missed that story about the *goose that laid the golden eggs*
🦀🦞🦐🦑🦐🦞🦀🦞🦐🦑
@Douggie F. From what I remember the Goose was quite miserable due to the fact every egg she carried was about 100x her own body weight. This also caused some serious, long lasting health issues. If I remember correctly the Goose ended up taking her own life. Obviously she couldn't swim what with the ridiculously heavy load she had to carry & one day she just stepped off the side of a 50 foot high cliff & basically dropped like a "stone" into the sea. Golden stone that is.
People overlook the fact of how much she wanted a family too but obviously that couldn't happen as she only laid golden eggs.
I know we've only just met but hypothetical question here..If you lost your Dog could I then call you Dougless? Or Dougless Dougiee the Doughnut? You pick.
@@petej8556 Hehehe I like you're story. And your cheeky sense of humour.
Well, once I used to hang out with the fringe dwellers, they used to call me Drugless. My Czechoslovakian professor would call me Dough. Some called me Dug, the guy with a shovel in his head. When I got a post hole drill for my tractor I truly was Dugless.
So there's a few options that fit.
BR14N he was a true numbnuts
You are right
you are telling me he swam away from the coast guard at the marina?!? every one needs to get fired WTF?
5:12 - This would’ve been the end for me lol
So many red flags but Mr Macho chose instead to stay. He just wanted to win the pissing contest.
Ok, then why didn't they report the other couple missing. Why did they re-paint the boat and why did they run if they didn't have anything to do with the missing couple. Clearly these maniacs had something to do with the disappearance of the elderly couple.
They were not elderly. Mac was 43 and Muff was 40.
"You've got to know when to walk away, know when to RUN!" [The Gambler]
Get off my danmed boat!
Yep. That BS, "I can take care of myself" gets men into fights and into graves, b/c one bad ass with a gun will challenge another bad ass with a gun. In the end, the husband trusted himself too much and underestimated what a desperate person is often capable of. He didn't get poverty and motivation. Got his wife murdered.
Love Mr. Kenny Rogers and you are totally right! 😊😊🧡🧡
@@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 he saw the gun as the solution while sitting on the real solution (take the luxury boat and supplies and LEAVE)
Poor MUFF, she was deep in the BUSH with poor people.
And look at what the poor people have done to her
ONLY N INSANE 50 YEAR OLD MAN WOULD HAVE STAYED THERE WITH HIS WIFE UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS
No need to shout Captain CapsLock.
Nai Nadirehs but he's the sheriff of you tube!!
@@xino_z With a filthy rusty sheriff's badge!
Nai Nadirehs it's dirty work! Lol
Lieutenant Keyboard
This proves that no good deed goes unpunished.
If there's poison around you, you should leave!
he got out of jail, how can they free a monster like that
I'll never forget when I was 20 years old, a bum asked me if I could spare some change in downtown San Francisco. I handed him a $1 bill, and he looked me right in the eyes and said "you cheap c#$%." I owe him a debt of gratitude for teaching me a valulable lesson.
@@nadiaalgeri3006 He died of a stroke but he should have NEVER been freed
lol, I help people every day and I never ended up dead. I am also not as dumb as these victims were.
Cat Muff wasn’t dumb - she wanted to leave.
Anybody else notice at 9:30 that's not a 22. Caliber revolver?
we did,....ray catches fishes with his 22 cal. revolver , but the video shows a semi-auto ....XD........
Muff reminds me of Mrs Howl from Gililgans Island
Does Mrs. Howell Howl?
Except for the horrible ending, this whole story reminds me of Gilligan's Island.
Yea. She does☺also mr graham of Mr Howe.
Howl & Howe?
If someone asks for a cigarette, don't hand them the pack. Take one out and hand it to them.
Well he didn't have street knowledge Or Common Sense.
Threw out the entire episode he was the one who stress survival skills...He also like to see Buck and Stephanie beg and fail..
Never show a desert island bum your pantry
Buck looks exactly like every villain in cartoons
The movie about this is good.
' ..And the Sea will tell'.
It should be released on blu ray. It's very difficult to find a hard copy of it.
This case really changed things for cruisers and the way they have to keep tabs with government officials. It’s a pretty daunting process. When, in reality, the Grahams really did not use proper judgement in staying on an island with such sketchy characters...
Muff wanted to leave - she didn’t want to go in the first place. She was terrified of Buck and Muff broke down crying one night and told Bernie’s wife she was terrified she wouldn’t leave the island alive. She kept asking Mac to leave but he wouldn’t. Muff couldn’t stand Buck and Stephanie. Poor Muff! She was so scared.
Why, oh why didn't Mac and Muff just leave? Muff knew that it was a bad situation.
A lot of people are saying that they should have left them there immediately but I can see why they didn’t. The guy loved that island and those two could have ruined it if left unchecked in months. Having a gun made the guy feel safe. It’s too bad, they seemed like fine people.
they should have notified authorities (US fish & wildlife) & let them know what was happening...as they sailed away to another (there are thousands) tropical isle.
It wasn't HIS island goofball, I could understand protecting your house and YOUR property but acting like he has to police some area miles from his home is not only arrogant and foolhardy but in this case cost him and his wife their lives. FOH
Can you turn up the music a little louder, I can still hear the dialogue !
Wait a second , did he just take a bunch of cigarettes out my pack ? Damn son we got a problem.
Walker was released on parole September 2007 at the age of 69, after serving 22 years of a life sentence, and died of a stroke on April 26, 2010 at the age of 72.
thank God! still,Stephanie totally skated,got a sweet job in Orange County,a lot ofr money from Bugliosi and married a rich guy...she made major royalties off the book to pay her attorney..at least Buck died in a trailer out in the woods alone,I heard....he also had cancer..
@@seawynd99 Fuck them both, she got off way too damn easy
@@homelesshannah50 k
How do you know Stephanie married a rich guy? I hope not!! Lying B itch!
the girl got away with murder lol
My name is Roy but I have buck tattooed on my arm.. Genius .
Why would anyone have a tattoo of their name wtf
@@ijhsa7452 short term memory I am guessing.
It was great to see calvin shisedo. Readinf the book. Thanks for showing it.
Rich people traveling around the world are magnets for crazed individuals. This has happened many times. One couple was chained together and literally thrown overboard. I think of them often. Their families have to live with that nightmare for the rest of their lives.
The Hawks...out of Huntington Beach...
Pamela Meeks: Perhaps in the Grahams {victims} previous life they may have done the same evil action to a man a man and woman living on a boat.So they reincarnate inorder to pay back kharma.I believe that whatever you do to someone will eventually be done to you either in this life or when you reincarnate to this planet or a similar planet.
@@londonbuddha so anything that happens to you, you deserve somehow?
Please.
@@londonbuddhaAre you nuts or something. Borrowed from Hinduism. And I am Indian. Still don't believe in past life.
Should've pulled anchor and split quick
When roy asked for one cigarette and starting taking more. The dude should of just clocked him. And tell everybody to join in on it cause he the selfies one 💯💯
*selfish one
They Got a kick out of Stephanie and buck starving..
They Probably spend all day Laughing Gossiping and demeaning Stephanie and buck.
This is what some Neighbors do.... Neighbors will hate you...
the husband wanted to play brave with someone who fears nothing, i wanted him to least not to be stupidly brave to put his wife at danger and would have left right away not hanging around for 3 months
Mac Graham was a jerk. Would have voted for Trump, had he lived.
What's that old saying?..."Beware of Greeks bearing gifts." I would say it this way, "Beware of enemies bearing gifts."
bearing
@@rogermccowen685 Oops...
the adult version of kids, don't take candy from strangers..
Stephannie, you got away. For now...
She is dead, isn't she?
Divine Justice will deal with her in the hereafter, opheliamyall2554!
Thanks
"I can take care of myself"- famous last words.Pride goes before a fall and he took his wife with him.
Stupid guy. His actions have deprived the world of lovely Muff.
@born in a barn your odd sounds like the typa shi you pride yo self off of thats cowardice
@@dvontewright3430 Knowing the difference between caution and cowardice can impact your life.True strength lies in knowing your limits and not assuming you know others but go get 'em tiger 😉 As for me, I'd like to be here for a long time.
@@borninabarn2232 Exactly!! I can't stand people who don't know when to pick their battles. Everything in life is not a fucking dick swinging contest
Yeah, I heard so many stories like this, both on the internet and real life.
Poor old man think that one mere pistol can take care of evil-minded people... He should've listened to his sweet wife. Most men do have strength and bravery, but their little wives often got instinct. Listening to your weak and afraid wives won't mean that you're a coward, that means that you're smart and have a good control of your ego...
Just by looking at his photo in the thumbnail, I can already guess that the man is dangerous. And I'm not even the "instinctive" type of woman...
Why she smiling on her mug shot and Buck look creepy I have one thing to say Don't eat the cake Annie Mae
The husband let his ego take control and he thought he was tougher than he was. He should have listened to his poor wife and scrammed. There's no dishonor in that. At east he'd be alive.
I hate the fact that buck can always escape jail. What kind of jail and guards they have there? 🙄 if he didnt escape in the first place he can't murder anybody.! Maybe you need to investigate the prison there.
it happens more than you know. Prisoners also clean the guards' areas in many jails, so are able to steal stuff from that area.
The creep asks Mac for a cigarette and takes half a pack already. Red flag.
Good detective work but it was that empty Capri Sun that really broke the case open....
When Roy arrived at the island, he learned he was a terrible planner. lol
I remember this case from a long time ago
I'm only 12 mins in but I can see that the older couple with the nice boat at this point should have decided to leave.
Yes the wife wanted to but her husband was stubborn
The book "And the Sea Will Tell" gives a good account of this murder and trial. There was also a movie about it somewhat later as I recall.
Yeah, but you'll be disgusted after you read it and realized how she got away from being sent to jail..
@@adrianaboga8361 Actually, I read the book first and then watched the movie sometime later. And you're right, the movie was pretty tame compared to what was in the book.
It starred Richard Crenna, James Brolin and Rachel Ward, Ellis from Die Hard played Buck. It was on CBS, I can't find it on RUclips though
@@homelesshannah50 ruclips.net/video/4MJZbfrdPGk/видео.html
@@homelesshannah50 It's now on RUclips. Someone posted it. And The Sea Will Tell. Pity the uncut version is in Russian.
The woman picking up the skull!?!? I was like why??? Hell naw. I'll call the cops but I ain't picking it up, brushing it off, staring at it. Is that normal or am I wrong?
In this situation she had to as high tide was due in soon and everything was going to wash away for good. And the authorities weren’t exactly going to show up quickly given they were on an uninhabited island in the middle of nowhere . Good thing she picked it all up!
This is a really good episode! Thanks guys!
If anyone is interested, this story made for one of the absolute best true crime books I ever read by Bruce Henderson and Vincent Bugliosi titled, "And the sea will tell".
Read it a couple of times in the last 25yrs, and listening to it right now in audio book. When I read it back then and listening to it now, I still think there was no way she didn't know what went down w/ their deaths...
22:44 That geezer was on the chase. Wouldn't mess with him
And the sea will tell. This is the made for tv movie name. Good movie. Saw it years ago.
very biased,Bugliosi got Stephanie off for her fake testimony
@@seawynd99 Only because she repeatedly got him off.
Stephan Kemble, narrator, has to be a casting manager's stroke of genius for this show...
Why get the coconut milk when you can kill the cow tree?
Nahaha
😂 Nice!
Why didn't Roy and Steph just leave the island? When they had no food and it wasn't working, why not call it a day, what was the point of staying there and starving?
Because their boat was a piece of garbage and most likely wouldn’t have made it back to HI and they had hardly no money. They took the lazy and evil way out.
@@georgialee6755 If they had asked nicely and admitted they needed help, someone might have offered them a lift back to the mainland and even offer them some of their food and supplies. When they knew they were running out, they could have left before things got too bad.
There boat was a wreck Roy and Stephanie weren’t going anywhere
@@yard2974 THEIR boat, and when they realised it was going down the pan, they could have hitched a lift back with someone else BEFORE it got too bad.