@@RobertJ-vo4bk good for you?? I dont know what- ok "CLASSIC" hope youre happier lol (im guessing that's still off for you? semi-genuine question idk what you have in mind)
I like the theory that as she went on, the doors would have been harder for her to pass up. Implying she cared more about what her bikini waxer thought of her than her childhood friend. But also that the last two doors were likely her "Team Cockroach" friends and her sister.
Tahani really shouldn't be faulted. The test by the judge was a terrible one anyway. She shouldn't NOT care about how others see her as that's a very normal response for a human; something an unempathetic Judge wouldn't understand. If she could enter each room, hear what they thought of her and still come to an acceptance of it, that would have been a better test. She didn't need to resist hearing other's opinions of her; she needed to be able to accept herself DESPITE all that is said about her.
i mean, it wasn't that she couldn't want to know what others thought about her, it was that she had to put that desire aside for the greater good. and the idea that "let me just see what they're saying and then i'll totally be chill and accepting about it" is such a trap, particularly when it comes to people you know you shouldn't be listening to (in this case, her parents). it's less like asking your friend how they would describe you or how you come off, and more like reading strangers' instagram comments at 3am
People on Earth are going to judge you regardless if you are a good person or not, so I have to agree with you. Never hearing anything negative about yourself and ignoring those people doesn't prepair you to have thick skin, for high confidence or be able to keep your own when someone does say something negative. It just makes it easier for you to get your feelings hurt and deep down be wondering what people think of you which is her entire problem. Her parents are major narcissists so it's no wonder why she spent her life living for approval, it's not because she actually IS full of herself it's just how she was raised. People sometimes are a victum of their circumstances whether they are aware of it or not, unfortuantely it took her afterlife to figure that out. But the rest they come up with for the rest of the people on Earth does HELP those to either move past it and become better people or stay the same. Id argue she did improve a lot but no one is perfect either, in actual heaven you aren't subjected to be perfect but to admit to your own faults and surrender that to a higher power. Tahini test is the one I disagree with the most. If people have to be perfect to get into heaven then no one would be in it. They miss the entire point of the afterllife.
There is caring what people think about you and there is being obsessed with it. Her whole love she was obsessed with how others saw her. Every decision she made was based on her parents, her sisters and her “friends”. Moving past that dependency would be healthy.
The problem isn't that she did it. She knew failing the test risks the eternal afterlives of all her friends. The choice was between something she wanted (information and closure), and doing something to help other people. She failed.
Both of these are tests about impulse control which is really cruel and unusual but it makes sense that the judge, at this point in the show, would think they are valid
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 Nonsense. Imagine having every person's soul connected to a recording device that transmits the soul's experience to a heavenly library. Now imagine being able to download and experience that as if you're in the matrix. All the knowledge of being a living thing on earth, without stepping foot there.
Tahani failed the test, but NOT badly. She was actually doing a really good job until it came to her parents. And while she did still fail, that failure marked some personal growth as she was able to confront the people who hurt her, people who should have loved her unconditionally, and tell them off and actually verbalize all her pain. So yes, she still failed. But she actually did great on the test. And her failure brought her resolution to some of her issues.
I truly don’t understand how Tahani’s parent’s true feelings for her were of disappointment. She’s beautiful, intelligent and a world-renowned philanthropist. Her biggest flaw is her competitive relationship with her sister which is exactly what they wanted! I truly don’t know how in the end they don’t value her at all!
Abusers' reasoning is never based in logic - or any rationality for that matter. The only slightest idea I have for a parent to actively resent their child is so that they don't have to deal with their own self-hatred. You don't feel like you need to ever blame yourself, if you push every single little problem onto your kid. It's a phenomenon called "scapegoating", a horrible reality that too many people are going through right now...
Tahani's test is so wild when you really think about it. The goal is to get through the red door without opening any others. Presumably the closer Tahani gets to the red door, the more tempting the names on the plaques become. When Tahani stops at her parents' door, she looks down the hallway and from her perspective we see the red door and two other doors left. One door has a plaque and the other doesn't. Since these two doors are right next to the red door, they are presumably even more tempting than Tahani's parents' door. The door with the plaque is probably Kamilah, considering how much of their lives were spent in competition against each other. But what about the unmarked door? Why doesn't it have a name? Who is inside that room?
@@corrymuth2997it’s not just that simple. Tahani longed for acceptance and acknowledgement from her psrents all her life- including her afterlife. We ALL would’ve failed.
@@reinnruru No, not all of us. Even if there are people who are self conscious, they know what's at stake. Close your eyes and run towards the door. There are plenty of people in her situation who would've ignored the urge. No rule in the good place about people not being needy, they just needed to hold it for like 5 minutes.
It was difficult for her but it wouldn't be difficult for everyone. Elanor (at least Earth version) would have had absolutely no problem ignoring all the doors because she didn't value other people or what they thought.
That judge missed the whole POINT of the test, it's not about whether you actually open a door necessarily as it takes a very evolved person to do that at times and depending who was in your life. The whole point should have been despite what her parents say about her she had the confidence to tell them off kindly, be honest and then walk away. Sometimes people like that in our lives NEED to hear that otherwise no change will occur. I disagree with how that test was used and she should have passed it. Old tahani would have gone into EVERY room and made a scene. Narcissists NEED postive attention and will do anything to get it, however her time in the afterlife strengthened her more.
Jason's character of lacking intelligence proves that heaven-hell concepts are laking intelligence... It is a very good show. This show has lots of considerations in philosophy.
Yeah, he's the one member of the group that hadn't quite become better by this point due to his lack of impulse control (which is why he was tested on his impulsive nature.) He definitely does get better as things go on, but the lessons he learned hadn't all quite sunk in yet.
I liked that as the Judge said, he still showed some improvement while playing. He is shown meditating to calm himself and think more clearly and focus on his goal, to save his friends, and I really like that touch for some reason. But yeah, he still needed to go a long way from there.
I've only seen clips of this show and it's great how youse guys in the comments are talking about Tahani's Personal development HOWEVER Can we show some Appreciation that Jason Actually Did win that game of Madden which was a Comparatively Herculean effort on his part?
Tahani walked down the hallway, Tahani walked through the red door at the end. Did the Judge say anything about what she couldn't do that was edited out or something?
The test wasn't about following instructions, the test was to see how much she cared about what people think of her. Telling her not to walk in would just show how well she can not look at doors and go straight to the front
I don’t think the writers really wanted Tahani to fail, but I don’t think they wanted Jason to be the only one, either. Obviously we needed Eleanor and Chidi to win at football, arson, weddings, art and irony.
Eleanor was the only one who passed-- the Chidi that was with her through her test was a part of her test, while Chidi's actual test was making a choice, which he failed to do.
Tahani had one job. Walk down the hall and exit through the red door. She's a smart woman. She knows this is a test. The red door is right there. Walk, one foot in front of the other to the red door. Open door, through door, close door. Done. Your soul is in good shape. But no ... she couldn't turn off that part of her personality for 15 seconds to save her own soul knowing that it was part of her that was landing her in the Bad Place. She's got no excuse. Jason, on the other hand, is an idiot.
I actually disagree, the whole point of that test was to see HOW many doors she would actually open, being that her parents are major narcissists she spent her whole life trying to please them in order to feel good about herself. She never had that other option on Earth and finally started working on herself. Old her would have opened every door and had a fit about what people were saying. However, by ignoring all the doors except her parents, realizing that they were never going to think highly of her regardless and confronting them was a huge improvement. Narc parents rarely get reality handed to them and as a child of one it is HARD to walk away knowing you aren't the problem. She was a victum of her environment and could have been a lot worse. In this test she showed more strength and btw if perfection is the only thing to get you to heaven NONE of us would be there. It is about owning up to your mistakes and putting them on a higher power and accepting the consquences and being better for the next time. THAT should be the takeaway, not what the judge said.
@@brittanycoolidge4101 her whole arc was supposed to rise above her need for attention. What she did here is not some great act but damning all her friends to eternal damnation to get some satisfaction against a figment of imagination in the shape of her parents. It's not perfection to care about others destiny more than confronting your fake parents to get 15 seconds of satisfaction. What she did here is just plain selfishness that showed she was still a deeply flawed character
She didn't own up to any mistake, the memories of this day were erased until she didn't need them anymore. Eleanor is the one that accepted her mistake of wanting the test to be valid for all of them or none and despite passing she chose eternal damnation with her friends. This is not a good moment for tahani. When she met her sister on earth was, but she didn't have the memories of this test. So it doesn't help her grow at all, it just show us she's still a self absorbed person up to that point
@@brittanycoolidge4101 While everything you wrote is accurate, I still disagree with you in one respect. We're no longer talking about life on earth. She's the afterlife. The rules of the test were explained to her by the judge. It was very simple. The red door is right there. Walk to it without opening any other doors, and she couldn't do it. She failed.
Tahani may have failed the judge's test, but she passed the biggest test of her life: getting over her need for approval from her parents.
Right? She also passed every room except her parents. She did really well. She did the second best after Eleanor.
O.M.G so Amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except she doomed her friends to return to the bad place in the confrontation
The test was more educational than anything.
The all knowing burrito wasn't all knowing.
She may have failed, but I’m proud of Tahani. Her parents were horrible and she finally stood up to them.
Jason's "But you already knew that! That's the test!" followed by Judge's "Yeah thats not some revelation. I explained that very clearly" ICONIC
Yeah, you don't know what iconic means.
@@RobertJ-vo4bk good for you?? I dont know what- ok "CLASSIC" hope youre happier lol (im guessing that's still off for you? semi-genuine question idk what you have in mind)
I like the theory that as she went on, the doors would have been harder for her to pass up.
Implying she cared more about what her bikini waxer thought of her than her childhood friend.
But also that the last two doors were likely her "Team Cockroach" friends and her sister.
The judges reaction to Jason's plight at the end is so hilarious 😂😂😂
Tahani really shouldn't be faulted. The test by the judge was a terrible one anyway. She shouldn't NOT care about how others see her as that's a very normal response for a human; something an unempathetic Judge wouldn't understand. If she could enter each room, hear what they thought of her and still come to an acceptance of it, that would have been a better test. She didn't need to resist hearing other's opinions of her; she needed to be able to accept herself DESPITE all that is said about her.
Honestly, the harder test would have been doing that and parsing between what was and was not constructive criticism
i mean, it wasn't that she couldn't want to know what others thought about her, it was that she had to put that desire aside for the greater good. and the idea that "let me just see what they're saying and then i'll totally be chill and accepting about it" is such a trap, particularly when it comes to people you know you shouldn't be listening to (in this case, her parents). it's less like asking your friend how they would describe you or how you come off, and more like reading strangers' instagram comments at 3am
People on Earth are going to judge you regardless if you are a good person or not, so I have to agree with you. Never hearing anything negative about yourself and ignoring those people doesn't prepair you to have thick skin, for high confidence or be able to keep your own when someone does say something negative. It just makes it easier for you to get your feelings hurt and deep down be wondering what people think of you which is her entire problem. Her parents are major narcissists so it's no wonder why she spent her life living for approval, it's not because she actually IS full of herself it's just how she was raised. People sometimes are a victum of their circumstances whether they are aware of it or not, unfortuantely it took her afterlife to figure that out. But the rest they come up with for the rest of the people on Earth does HELP those to either move past it and become better people or stay the same. Id argue she did improve a lot but no one is perfect either, in actual heaven you aren't subjected to be perfect but to admit to your own faults and surrender that to a higher power. Tahini test is the one I disagree with the most. If people have to be perfect to get into heaven then no one would be in it. They miss the entire point of the afterllife.
There is caring what people think about you and there is being obsessed with it. Her whole love she was obsessed with how others saw her. Every decision she made was based on her parents, her sisters and her “friends”. Moving past that dependency would be healthy.
The problem isn't that she did it. She knew failing the test risks the eternal afterlives of all her friends. The choice was between something she wanted (information and closure), and doing something to help other people. She failed.
Here I repeat the wise words of the all-knowing judge Gen… “enngewegge gebewegee deddewebedegae?” 😂😂😂🤦♀️🤌 5:01
Both of these are tests about impulse control which is really cruel and unusual but it makes sense that the judge, at this point in the show, would think they are valid
She can't call herself all knowing having never been to earth.
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 Nonsense. Imagine having every person's soul connected to a recording device that transmits the soul's experience to a heavenly library. Now imagine being able to download and experience that as if you're in the matrix. All the knowledge of being a living thing on earth, without stepping foot there.
Tahani failed the test, but NOT badly. She was actually doing a really good job until it came to her parents.
And while she did still fail, that failure marked some personal growth as she was able to confront the people who hurt her, people who should have loved her unconditionally, and tell them off and actually verbalize all her pain.
So yes, she still failed. But she actually did great on the test. And her failure brought her resolution to some of her issues.
Brilliant series and the Judge was great
Our two heroes failed but they were damn tough
I truly don’t understand how Tahani’s parent’s true feelings for her were of disappointment. She’s beautiful, intelligent and a world-renowned philanthropist. Her biggest flaw is her competitive relationship with her sister which is exactly what they wanted! I truly don’t know how in the end they don’t value her at all!
Could also just be that the test was designed so the door inhabitants were just generated from tahani's mind
Abusers' reasoning is never based in logic - or any rationality for that matter.
The only slightest idea I have for a parent to actively resent their child is so that they don't have to deal with their own self-hatred. You don't feel like you need to ever blame yourself, if you push every single little problem onto your kid.
It's a phenomenon called "scapegoating", a horrible reality that too many people are going through right now...
Tahani's test is so wild when you really think about it. The goal is to get through the red door without opening any others. Presumably the closer Tahani gets to the red door, the more tempting the names on the plaques become. When Tahani stops at her parents' door, she looks down the hallway and from her perspective we see the red door and two other doors left. One door has a plaque and the other doesn't. Since these two doors are right next to the red door, they are presumably even more tempting than Tahani's parents' door. The door with the plaque is probably Kamilah, considering how much of their lives were spent in competition against each other.
But what about the unmarked door? Why doesn't it have a name? Who is inside that room?
Tahani's test was the most difficult one, we would all have gone crazy at that
At the same time , you literally never need to open a single door, and the actual task is exceedingly simple
@@corrymuth2997it’s not just that simple. Tahani longed for acceptance and acknowledgement from her psrents all her life- including her afterlife. We ALL would’ve failed.
@@corrymuth2997 Tahani did that, but I guess it was different when it came to her parents, she died because of their rejection
@@reinnruru No, not all of us. Even if there are people who are self conscious, they know what's at stake. Close your eyes and run towards the door. There are plenty of people in her situation who would've ignored the urge. No rule in the good place about people not being needy, they just needed to hold it for like 5 minutes.
It was difficult for her but it wouldn't be difficult for everyone. Elanor (at least Earth version) would have had absolutely no problem ignoring all the doors because she didn't value other people or what they thought.
I feel so bad for tahani
Dude all of us would've failed that Tahani test LOL
That judge missed the whole POINT of the test, it's not about whether you actually open a door necessarily as it takes a very evolved person to do that at times and depending who was in your life. The whole point should have been despite what her parents say about her she had the confidence to tell them off kindly, be honest and then walk away. Sometimes people like that in our lives NEED to hear that otherwise no change will occur. I disagree with how that test was used and she should have passed it. Old tahani would have gone into EVERY room and made a scene. Narcissists NEED postive attention and will do anything to get it, however her time in the afterlife strengthened her more.
Shirtpost? Is this an account just for commenting on goodplace stuff?
@@spyrofan9681 I wish LOL. Also finally someone got the reference, I'm giddy like a demon experiencing human life for the first time.
@@shirtpostyou’re so cute stop
No? Most people wouldn't. Especially considering the stakes, most people would bolt to the end
I can't blame Tahani I'd might be tempted too
Jason's character of lacking intelligence proves that heaven-hell concepts are laking intelligence...
It is a very good show. This show has lots of considerations in philosophy.
As far as I'm concerned, Tahani passed the test with flying colors. The judge's test criteria was junky.
You just failed this test 😂
Tahani's fail was remarkable
-Kamilah's something
Wow the "hulk out" reference was a nice touch.
Considering that this is years before her role in She-Hulk. Something tells me the casting directors at Marvel were TGP fans :)
Jason was bound to fail anyway if I’m honest because come on it’s Jason
no
Yeah, he's the one member of the group that hadn't quite become better by this point due to his lack of impulse control (which is why he was tested on his impulsive nature.) He definitely does get better as things go on, but the lessons he learned hadn't all quite sunk in yet.
I liked that as the Judge said, he still showed some improvement while playing. He is shown meditating to calm himself and think more clearly and focus on his goal, to save his friends, and I really like that touch for some reason. But yeah, he still needed to go a long way from there.
You could easily win Tahanis test by just not reading the placards.
But they wouldn't give us her test. That test is only for people so hyper obsessed with what people think that they couldn't resist reading the names.
I've only seen clips of this show and it's great how youse guys in the comments are talking about Tahani's Personal development HOWEVER Can we show some Appreciation that Jason Actually Did win that game of Madden which was a Comparatively Herculean effort on his part?
Tahani walked down the hallway, Tahani walked through the red door at the end.
Did the Judge say anything about what she couldn't do that was edited out or something?
The test wasn't about following instructions, the test was to see how much she cared about what people think of her. Telling her not to walk in would just show how well she can not look at doors and go straight to the front
Sean downvoted this video.
"Shut up and go away"
I don’t think the writers really wanted Tahani to fail, but I don’t think they wanted Jason to be the only one, either. Obviously we needed Eleanor and Chidi to win at football, arson, weddings, art and irony.
I mean, Chidi also failed
Eleanor was the only one who passed-- the Chidi that was with her through her test was a part of her test, while Chidi's actual test was making a choice, which he failed to do.
Hey does anyone know why this channel started posing again?
no idea but I hope something is happening
Hulk out😅😂
Tahani had one job. Walk down the hall and exit through the red door. She's a smart woman. She knows this is a test. The red door is right there. Walk, one foot in front of the other to the red door. Open door, through door, close door. Done. Your soul is in good shape. But no ... she couldn't turn off that part of her personality for 15 seconds to save her own soul knowing that it was part of her that was landing her in the Bad Place. She's got no excuse.
Jason, on the other hand, is an idiot.
I actually disagree, the whole point of that test was to see HOW many doors she would actually open, being that her parents are major narcissists she spent her whole life trying to please them in order to feel good about herself. She never had that other option on Earth and finally started working on herself. Old her would have opened every door and had a fit about what people were saying. However, by ignoring all the doors except her parents, realizing that they were never going to think highly of her regardless and confronting them was a huge improvement. Narc parents rarely get reality handed to them and as a child of one it is HARD to walk away knowing you aren't the problem. She was a victum of her environment and could have been a lot worse. In this test she showed more strength and btw if perfection is the only thing to get you to heaven NONE of us would be there. It is about owning up to your mistakes and putting them on a higher power and accepting the consquences and being better for the next time. THAT should be the takeaway, not what the judge said.
@@brittanycoolidge4101 her whole arc was supposed to rise above her need for attention. What she did here is not some great act but damning all her friends to eternal damnation to get some satisfaction against a figment of imagination in the shape of her parents.
It's not perfection to care about others destiny more than confronting your fake parents to get 15 seconds of satisfaction. What she did here is just plain selfishness that showed she was still a deeply flawed character
She didn't own up to any mistake, the memories of this day were erased until she didn't need them anymore.
Eleanor is the one that accepted her mistake of wanting the test to be valid for all of them or none and despite passing she chose eternal damnation with her friends.
This is not a good moment for tahani. When she met her sister on earth was, but she didn't have the memories of this test. So it doesn't help her grow at all, it just show us she's still a self absorbed person up to that point
@@M.W.2 well wouldn't that be Michael and the judges fault then? in real life we wouldn't forget and use that as a lesson, which this show did not do.
@@brittanycoolidge4101 While everything you wrote is accurate, I still disagree with you in one respect. We're no longer talking about life on earth. She's the afterlife. The rules of the test were explained to her by the judge. It was very simple. The red door is right there. Walk to it without opening any other doors, and she couldn't do it. She failed.
I feel this show would have killed if this was a British show. US doesnt do well with intelligent writing.
you mean it would have been more popular? possibly but 53 episodes in just a 4 year span is relatively untested on British people.