The History of RPGs from 1970 to 1980! How to RPG 103

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • Welcome back to another class on How to RPG. Today we're taking a look at the RPG Genres first steps into video games, starting in the 70s, on into the early 80s!
    My "How To RPG" videos are a series of educational videos I'm producing as part my broader efforts to spread the love and knowledge of RPGs to a wider audience and lower the barrier to entry. If you like what I'm doing please consider supporting me and this channel, which will enable me to acquire some really cool stuff to do some hands-on demonstrations in future episodes!
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  • @SuperDerek
    @SuperDerek  2 года назад +13

    My "How To RPG" videos are a series of educational videos I'm producing as part my broader efforts to spread the love and knowledge of RPGs to a wider audience and lower the barrier to entry. If you like what I'm doing please consider supporting me and this channel, which will enable me to acquire some really cool stuff to do some hands-on demonstrations in future episodes! patreon: www.patreon.com/SuperDerek

  • @redstratus97
    @redstratus97 2 года назад +13

    Hey Mr. Derek before I leave your class I’d like to share something with you. My dad worked for Digital Equipment Corporation throughout the 70s and 80s. In the early 80s I have memories of playing outside his office door at home while he used his Digital VT100, the very computer you are seeing here. I know we were one of the first people to actually have a computer in our home at the time. But obviously my dad used it for work 95% of the time. The rest of the time I think my dad used it for write stuff to print out on paper and I do vaguely remember him having a game or two on there. But I have no clue what those games were back then as I was too young and wasn’t exactly allowed to even touch the computer. I was allowed to watch my dad work at times when he needed to at home. So I sat quietly in a chair next to him watching it navigate menus and type things and be entertained by it. And when the computer was off and he was away I would pretend to do stuff on it with the keyboard and such. It paved the path for me to work with computers as an adult today.

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +4

      What an awesome story! I'd love to get my hands on a terminal some day, they seem so dang cool! Thanks for sharing. :D

  • @thomasharvey1151
    @thomasharvey1151 2 года назад +5

    This was cool. I always enjoy learning about things such as this. I was born in 1980, I didn’t have a computer as a child but I believe my first computer game was playing Oregon Trail in elementary school. Then some Apple game involving dropping a man into a hay cart from a helicopter. Had a friend in the 8th grade with a home computer and we’d play Myst and Wolfenstein. But Rpgs quickly became my gaming preference and started with Dragon Warrior, then Final Fantasy on nes. It was Final Fantasy II on SNES that solidified my love for them.

  • @alicrastd3095
    @alicrastd3095 2 года назад +8

    As a gradeschooler in the early 90s I played hours of The Oregon Trail which come to find out was produced in 1974. I beat The Oregon trail. I used to play a bunch of windows 3.1 super nintendo and sega genesis back in the day, but educational games were pivotal to getting me addicted.

  • @trenthadler5998
    @trenthadler5998 2 года назад +3

    very cool video derek! excited to see how you approach future installments in this series

  • @7thangelad586
    @7thangelad586 2 года назад +6

    Those early games are what opened my imagination as a five or six year old. I vividly recall Temple of Apshai and how tough it was! I also put endless hours into Rogue.
    I hope you’ll cover The Castle Adventure from the 80’s. I played a lot of it too.
    Looking sharp also, Professor Derek!

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +3

      That's so awesome to hear! I never got to get hands-on with these early micros, so it's awesome to hear from people who were able to really experience them! Incredible! :D

  • @NerevarineKing
    @NerevarineKing 2 года назад +4

    There are actually a few examples of rougelikes that pre-date Rogue such as Beneath Apple Manor although they tend to be more primitive and didn't codify the roguelike genre like Rogue did.

  • @dylangirard4670
    @dylangirard4670 2 года назад +3

    Professor Derek I see you have been pumping points into your intelligence stat.

  • @freakon2009
    @freakon2009 2 года назад +5

    Ultima III: Exodus on the Apple II some time in the mid 1980s was my first RPG. Between then and the early 90s, I played a lot of the SSI Gold Box D&D RPGs, including the most excellent Dark Sun cRPG.

  • @DragoonLagi
    @DragoonLagi 2 года назад +3

    My very first rpg was shining force 2, and after that final fantasy 7.

  • @TheMetalHeadbangger
    @TheMetalHeadbangger 2 года назад +2

    i think oldest rpg i have played is FF5 as for western it was Baldurs Gate 1

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero 2 года назад +2

    This is some wonderful, wonderful stuff. I feel a little bad for the Plato administrators, they were just doing their job, but they ended up deleting important parts of an entire medium's history.
    It's amazing how the chain of inspiration keeps flowing, from Tolkien's work to D&D all the way up to the huge adventures we have today

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +3

      And it's kind of funny how it was Tolkien's Hobbits who struck such a chord with hippie culture, what with them being peace-loving maybe hallucinogenic pipe-weed smoking munchie-lovers and all. If not for that set of traits, who knows, without that hippie culture, would RPGs have been so high-fantasy inspired, if they ever existed at all? Could they have been more contemporary-war inspired a la Call of Duty in a different timeline where things didn't line up quite so perfectly? Hard to say. :)

    • @HybridAngelZero
      @HybridAngelZero 2 года назад +2

      @@SuperDerek It all really came together to be the "perfect storm" of culture and counter-culture, and it's wild do think of the decades long, global influence it would all have

  • @SuperDerek
    @SuperDerek  2 года назад +4

    The oldest RPG I've played is probably Rogue, but the oldest one I've beaten was actually a port of Hydlide to NES. :)

    • @japanimationman4442
      @japanimationman4442 2 года назад +1

      Looks like that Hydlide port is the oldest RPG I've played, but then you did just put that link to Rogue up there... Oldest RPG I've beaten would be the first Dragon Quest. But the oldest RPG I own is 1983's Dragon Stomper, the world's first console RPG. Just need to get a working hardware setup to actually play it.
      Great video; I'm looking forward to seeing the first JRPGs next time!

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      The subject of the First JRPG is going to be a rabbit-hole in and of itself I think. Can't wait to dig into it! I suspect that "The First JRPG" will end up getting covered in-depth in How To RPG 105. :)

    • @japanimationman4442
      @japanimationman4442 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, early JRPG is some murky territory. Which is why I'm looking forward to it.
      The first true JRPG by my reckoning is Dragon Quest, but I think of it as the first step in an evolution. I call it "the big four." Dragon Quest, Megami Tensei, Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star. The four franchises that defined what would make the JRPG distinct form WRPGs.

  • @shmackatrotsky5394
    @shmackatrotsky5394 2 года назад +4

    this is such a cool series, Derek. thank you!!

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +2

      I'm glad you're enjoying it! And thank you for watching!

  • @DanielSantosAnalysis
    @DanielSantosAnalysis 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the lesson prof SuperDerek
    I think the earliest RPG I've ever played is probably the original Dragon Quest.

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching Daniel! :D

  • @cmdrleonhart
    @cmdrleonhart 2 года назад +1

    Earliest rpg ever played? Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Cloudy Mountain on the Intellivision.

  • @darklordyianni4463
    @darklordyianni4463 2 года назад +2

    More Derek, more!!!! please?

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter9724 2 года назад +1

    Ahh the Star Trek text game. I've always loved that game. I remember playing a DOS Port of it when I was a kid. It was the first game I ever played where I felt like I was actually playing as the captain instead of playing as the helmsman when I was supposed to be the captain. I played Akalebeth and Wizardry I when I was a teenager but by then I had already played multiple Ultima games, and later Wizardry games.

  • @darklordyianni4463
    @darklordyianni4463 2 года назад +1

    Btw, you friends/aqcuaintances with Erick Landon, Hellfire RPGs, Daria Plays RPGs, Davidvinc, etc?

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад

      You bet! Haven't seen much of Daria lately but she's out living her best life. :)

  • @IRS320
    @IRS320 2 года назад +1

    Looking good Derek! Thanks for this series

  • @Alianger
    @Alianger 2 года назад +1

    Nice start and looking sharp! What is the oldest RPG you own yourself?
    I got into RPGs fairly late (started playing games around 1989), partly since I couldn't really speak or read english well until around 1994-1995. The first I saw played were Phantasy Star 1 and Zelda 2, and the first I played properly was probably Ultima 8. Some time after that I bought and played Secret of Evermore, Diablo and FF7.
    I think I played some of those choose your own adventure books like way of the tiger and falcon before U8, which were translated and had RPG-like mechanics.

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +2

      The oldest RPG I _own_ is probably Hydlide on Famicom, from 1984. Nearly picked up one of the Sword Quest games the other day from a local game shop. Maybe I ought to bite the bullet? Earth World is from 1982. Hmm..

  • @rei-miyazaki
    @rei-miyazaki 2 года назад +1

    My first RPG is Chrono Trigger in SNES. Borrow from my cousin who never play it. From there I got addicted to RPG to the point 90% games I play now is RPG.

  • @midgetsparkle
    @midgetsparkle 2 года назад +1

    100 level??
    What about those of us who are here for the PhD program?? I heard it's the best in RUclips for proper accreditation...

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      I'm sure we'll get there. I've got some 200 and 300 level classes planned for down the road. :)

  • @alfasilverblade
    @alfasilverblade 2 года назад +2

    The Oldest "looking" RPG i played was an intelevision game. I was the most primitive rpg i ever saw. It looked worse than some of the game you shown in this video.

  • @acidutzu
    @acidutzu 2 месяца назад

    Looks like Temple of Apshai was not released for the Apple II in 1979, but in 1980, same year as for the Atari800. It was released in 1979 for the TRS-80 and Commodore PET.

  • @joshuahelmeke
    @joshuahelmeke 2 года назад +1

    Thanx, Theach’! 😎

  • @greyfuller1025
    @greyfuller1025 2 года назад +1

    The first rpg I played was Dragon warrior for the nes.

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад

      It's really surprising to me how well Dragon Warrior on NES has held up over the years!

  • @TheRPGChick
    @TheRPGChick Год назад

    How to RPG 104... when??? I hope it'll be continued someday.

  • @DhinCardoso
    @DhinCardoso 2 года назад

    My first RPG was Chrono Trigger, imagine that! The first one already a masterpiece, I never recovered from that day and was difficult to me to accept others RPGs since CT was such monumental...

  • @Jersa7
    @Jersa7 2 года назад

    Looking sharp, there. I like the facial hair, too. You really look like a professor. Anyway, I do recall playing games on the old IBM, and we used to have text adventure games. Unfortunately, I can't remember which ones they were, but my dad used to play them. I grew up with the IBM PC, then transitioned to Windows from there. It's been a long time, but those were good times.

  • @shard_the_sage1320
    @shard_the_sage1320 2 года назад

    The first RPG I played was on Atari the game Adventure, having to Traverse a maze to find a grail and slay a dragon. I played it on a black and white TV too.

  • @WateryStar
    @WateryStar 2 года назад

    This makes me think of my dad. Think he had a computer my entire life and would tell me & my brother about such topics. Would be nice to talk to him about early computer games again because I didn't absorb a lot as a child. I'm actually not sure what my first game would be, he had quite a few and played some as a family.

  • @lenia272
    @lenia272 2 года назад

    the first RPG i "Saw" was the original Final Fantasy the father of a friend was playing. i was not allowed to play or touch the game (for obvious reasons found out in the future AKA 1 save file) but the 1st RPG i actually got to play was Dragon Warrior. i still remember i had no clue what saving was or what i was even supposed to do so i went out of the castle and just walked as far as i could untill i was in a zone where stuff 1 shot me and back to the castle i went for a rinse and repeat.

  • @ufodeath
    @ufodeath 2 года назад

    Imagine being a PLATO administrator who was directly responsible for destroying significant parts of computer history.

  • @Psaurus81
    @Psaurus81 2 года назад

    My first RPG was Ultima on my cousin's Apple IIe. Too bad the thing was always broken. I didn't get to play as much as I wanted. My other cousin's Atari 130xe was much more reliable (and generally better in every conceivable way), but I don;t remember playing any RPGs on it. I think the first RPG I played on a system that I actually owned was Crystalis on the NES.

  • @SethHaskell
    @SethHaskell 2 года назад

    Yas, Professor Derek is back I really enjoy this series of videos! The earliest RPG that I've played was Final Fantasy for the NES, but my first RPG was Pokemon Red for the Game Boy. My mother taught me the word obsessed while I was playing that game, then asked me to go and play with my siblings.

  • @31leoceara
    @31leoceara 2 года назад +1

    I am a failed RPG player. I tried playing and loving rpg video games a couple times long ago, but the random constant battles and high difficulty of the games I tried turned me away from the genre. I am willing to try it again now. Which games would you guys recommend to entice someone new to RPGs? It should be an easy, but fun to play game. Any suggestions?

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      Hey, you're not a failed player! Some games just aren't for some players. There's a load of kinds of RPGs out there, and I think that the best one to recommend will depend a lot on your preferences and interests. What other kinds of games do you enjoy playing? Are you into horror, or puzzles, Zelda style games, or first-person shooters? Let me know more about your tastes and I can probably make a few recommendations for an entry point. :)

    • @31leoceara
      @31leoceara 2 года назад +1

      @@SuperDerek Thank you for the help! I actually like action RPGs like Legend of Zelda and Landstalker. The problem lies on turn based RPG's. Fantasy/sword and sorcery is a theme that I find exciting, hence my willingness to enjoy RPGs. So I think an easy and fun fantasy RPG could work. Maybe I should begin with the easiest ones? The difficulty was what turned me off from the genre when I tried.

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      @@31leoceara Oh dude, if you love LandStalker, then you should definitely look into Alundra! It's basically a sequel and a lot of people don't even know it. LandStalker also started off its life as a spinoff to the Shining series of games, like Shining Force which is a strategy RPG with the same character designer, and it's also on the Sega Genesis, so that might be another really good way into the series! If you're looking for something kinda easy to get you going, something light-hearted, I think that the Pokemon games are an excellent gateway into turn-based combat.
      Also, thanks for your comment the other day, you actually inspired my latest video. I hope you give it a look and ask for some other suggestions in the comments section there too! :D ruclips.net/video/t_e_--gp2nA/видео.html

    • @31leoceara
      @31leoceara 2 года назад

      @@SuperDerek Thank you for the suggestions. I didn't know Alundra, and it seems exactly the kind of RPG I like. I will check the other games, and your new video, too.👍

  • @Taikaru
    @Taikaru 2 года назад

    Wow, incredible foresight to name their game Rogue before the genre even existed!

  • @omargh18
    @omargh18 2 года назад

    Earliest RPG I ever played was Pokemon Yellow

  • @RedBloodOrochi
    @RedBloodOrochi Год назад

    Thanks for the video sir. I'm amazed..

  • @rossrobertson674
    @rossrobertson674 2 года назад

    The oldest RPG I've played is Final Fantasy 1

  • @24hourcoffee
    @24hourcoffee 2 года назад

    love this video series, thank you for making

  • @billyblack6381
    @billyblack6381 2 года назад

    Thanks for the fun and educational video.

  • @ERBfan01
    @ERBfan01 2 года назад

    Love the outfit and really getting into character

  • @Sintax666
    @Sintax666 9 месяцев назад

    still wait for next show in the series

  • @tony47666123
    @tony47666123 2 года назад

    First RPG I played was Pokemon Yellow and then Gold. First real RPG was Golden Sun on the GBA.

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      Hey now, Pokémon Yellow _is_ a real RPG, in the monster-trainer sub-genre. It just happens to be a little light on story is all. :)

  • @klaudkil
    @klaudkil 2 года назад

    Holy damn bro your looking great!!!! Last vid i saw you looked more chubby

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      Yeah I've been working on myself, thanks for the kind words! :)

  • @Luxaron
    @Luxaron 2 года назад

    I would say this is very . . . classy!

  • @alucardvania986
    @alucardvania986 2 года назад

    Unrelated, but you're looking so well! Facial hair is looking great! I think a short full beard would really suit you.

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      Thanks a bunch Alucard! :D

  • @DanHoger
    @DanHoger 2 года назад

    If Oregon Trail is considered an RPG, then that's the earliest one I've played. The earliest one I've beaten is the original Final Fantasy for NES.

    • @SuperDerek
      @SuperDerek  2 года назад +1

      I used to play Oregon Trail in the computer lab during grade school! We had an old fleet of IBM model 25 EduQuest computers that we got to screw around on. Those were the days! :D

    • @DanHoger
      @DanHoger 2 года назад +1

      @@SuperDerek same here! We had Oregon Trail, Sim City, Swamp Gas, and of course Mavis Beacon teaches typing.

  • @DuoBeard
    @DuoBeard 2 года назад

    I’m really loving this series, I’ve learned more then I had thought I would. I really hope you keep it up Derek. I’m sure we’re all loving it

  • @dynastystar5515
    @dynastystar5515 2 года назад

    did you grow out that Goatee just for this video? :P