Later research reveals that it's actually the "Sweating Column". We probably don't need to issue an actual correction for that. [And an update in response to comments: nope, somehow "Hagia Sophia" is a gap in my knowledge. I've never played Civilisation. If I recognise the topic, we pick a new one and reshoot.] -- Tom
... it's like seeing Tom flip up a card naming "Big Ben" and nobody flinches. And Gary would be describing it as a government building known for its "mechanical curiosities"!!
@@sundhaug92 yea but everyone just refers to it by its clock name i hope your not the sort to say oh im going to see the elizabeth tower because if you are its pretentious
Big ben's the whole tower, tomatoes are a vegetable. If enough people believe a lie and it's not a massive one that fundamentally is a gap in education then let's just make that the truth
ABaumstumpf I knew about the viking graffiti but didn’t remember where it was, nor can I say I knew about Hagia Sophia (though I’ve probably encountered it and just forgotten)
At least as of right now (or a few minutes ago by the time this comment posts) the "Halfdan was here" graffiti is only referred to indirectly in the Hagia Sophia article on Wikipedia; Halfdan himself is only mentioned in the article "Runic inscriptions in Hagia Sophia". So, technically, Chris was lying because he wasn't discussing the content of the Hagia Sophia article, but rather the content of a linked article...
I’m shocked that Tom of all people didn’t immediately recognise the Hagia Sophia, it’s not exactly a hidden gem, it’s the most iconic building of Istanbul!
@@Dezomm Nah, well known, with a lot better reasons to be known, but Eiffel-Tower, ElizabethTower (holding big ben), Golden Gate bridge, Statue of liberty, Taj Mahal - there are quit a few buildings i would say are more iconic.
It's a combination of having trouble remembering from a quick read of the article, and trying to forcibly project sounding confidence in what he's saying even as he clearly struggles to recall.
Tom: "Allright guys, today we're doing 'The Eiffel Tower'. Any idea what that is?" Gary: "A park in france with an elevator in it" Chris: "A copyrighted light display" Matt: "A book about conquering mount everest"
@@kf10147 ikr! It’s literally one of the most famous religious/cultural sites in the world! It was built by Justinian! It’s also called the blue mosque, and in order to describe how beautiful it is, we invented a new color (turquoise-as in Turkish).
@Öğrenci Sarp Eren Hangişi it is not about being safe, it is about supporting a regime that just happen to enjoy a bit of invasion and genocide. And if that seems familiar, practically every super power have done that.
This episode perfectly displays the weird coverage of Tom's knowledge. Doesn't know the Hagia Sophia, but knows everything about the shortest rivers in the world.
@@SomeThingOrMaybeAnother Or, you know, having an interest in history. Which I suspect is how _Chris_ knew (considering he knew about the Viking graffitti).
Justinian I, emperor of the holy eastern roman empire: “this shall be our monument to the world - an epitaph for the greatest empire the world has ever known. generations to come will look at this dome and fall silent in awe. so they will never forget we existed” Gary: “its a museum and it has some very nice doors.” tom scott: its a folk band, isnt it?” Gary: “it has a sweaty column”
Gary is fairly decent at lying, but when he states the truth, he is so bad at it everyone thinks he's lying. That's why it's so easy to spot when Gary is saying the truth, because he makes it sound absurd every time
Which may just be the point, since for this show's run Gary's goal was not to convince Tom and win the game, but to make Tom lose the game for his own amusement.
I'm perplexed that Tom didn't already know about the Hagia Sofia. Most of the things in this show are extremely obscure, so something so famous popping up took me by surprise.
I mean, whats obscure or not is really subjective. The Ghost Festival last episode is really common to many people living in Asian countries and South China, but its obscure enough to Tom to not know about. I heard it and immediately got confused as to how its obscure its a major month long festival for us (though I didn't know the translation of the name was quite this literal).
@@ca-ke9493 Well, I mean, I was sure, Gary's Chinese festival was real or based on real Chinese traditions, but does it have that name and was it the article? Although Matt's pronunciation of the supposedly Croatian festival was complete bollocks, so I was like 75% Garry, 20% Chris, 5% Matt misspelled the name of the Croatian festival...
@@GerackSerack "Important" is hard to gauge, especially with the number of Asian, African, and Native American religious structures I know I know little about...but it's definitely among the most famous. Not "Vatican City" famous, but definitely in the top ten. There's a reason it's consistently been a wonder in Civilization despite that game's superficial and inconsistent portrayal of history.
Ever since this series began I always though “what if someone picks an article the others know about” and then instantly ruled that thought out as I thought that the chances for that to happen were so slim it pretty much couldn’t happen. Thank you Halfdan, for proving me wrong.
@@seanc6128 apparently Tom doesn't play Civ or know anything about the site (prior to recording at least), and evidently Matt either doesn't either or just chose something unrelated because he didn't want to get in the way of whoever's article it was.
The Hagia Sofia is pretty famous. I was honestly surprised Tom didn't know about it. Everybody who played Assassin's Creed Revelations probably immediately snorted. Also, Chris...may have just invented the metagame...for this game.
Anyone who plays the Civ games... TBH even before I'd played Civ I'd heard of it. Very strange that Tom's not heard of it given that he travels so much. I guess he's spent so long learning about other interesting things that he's had no time for this one.
I dropped down into the comments and immediately realized I'm in good company. Seems like everyone who watches Tom's channel already knows about Hagia Sophia from one source or another (oddly, mostly from video games, which might actually explain why Tom didn't immediately recognize it. In my case: Age of Empires II. It's the Byzantine Wonder).
More people played the Sid Meier's Civilization games than Age of Empires. But, yeah, for once we have proof that games can be informative and/or educational and fun at the same time. As for me, I read about it in random articles, but most of my knowledge came from the Extra Credit's videos on Justinian.
It’s strange to me that most people know it from video games because I learned about it in history class. I guess British people have enough domestic history that they can’t fit that in.
For me it was growing up watching James Burke's Connections. The Hagia Sophia is regularly featured in Connections 2, especially the New Harmony episode. An absolute must watch bunch of series. :-)
@@mmilcz833 In my case it was an online Humanities class (yes, during Covid) that consisted of quizzes based on informational videos. And the quiz questions were all like, multiple choice where all the answers are plausible but only one is worded the way the video worded it, meaning you had to watch the video AND take detailed notes if you wanted to get the right answers.
As penance for not knowing what the Hagia Sophia is, Tom now must do a video on the Varangian Guard - the elite guard of the Byzantine Emperors that were primarily made up of VIKINGS!
Legitimately, I made casual reference to it just two days ago and I safely assumed the person I was talking with would know what it was. Very surprised Tom wouldn't know it...
I honestly got confused for a minute b/c they were both saying true things. I figured one of them had worded it oddly to be technically false, but I couldn't pick out the lie.
Apparently, Tom didn't know about it. Not everyone does. Although, this is unusual for Tom, seeing he's well traveled and well read. Just goes to show you how really big and wonderful our small blue marble truly is.
This is one of the quintessential episodes. Gary convincing Tom it's not his article no matter if it is. Chris bullshitting expertly. Matt being clueless but somehow Tom still chose him.
I'll echo being stunned that Tom didn't know about this, that said, is Gary trying to throw this? Because seriously, I have trouble thinking of how you could have described the Hagia Sophia worse than he did
When I saw "Hagia Sophia" I was like "Oh it's another Green Monster situation where something has the same name as another much more famous thing." But nope. Actual Hagia Sophia. So interesting since it's like taught to 11-year-olds as curriculum here...
@@ltjgambrose Maybe. If the color stuff needed less editing, as it's single person direct to camera interspersed with shots of objects. I imagine these take quite a bit of editing effort.
After seeing all these comments, I have no idea how *I* have never heard of it! Not saying I'm all that smart, just the sheer numbers, hahaha! (Although, as soon as Gary started his description I thought, yeah I can see that.)
I am gradually becoming more and more impressed at Tom Scott's skill at designing games / panel shows. He has not only re-created much of the premise of "Would I Lie To You?", he has successfully developed a unique twist on the format.
Two caveats: 1) it's more like Call My Bluff in that it's 3 definitions, only one of which is true (in WILTY only the guest section "This is My...." reflects that); and 2) I think it stems from Matt's idea in the TechDif Experiments Format Laboratory for "The Tail Wagging The Dog", hence why I think he's given the role of explaining the rules for this game in this series.
I pictured a festival going from Thursday till Sunday, though. There's a folklore festival in Czechia that basically goes like that; although most of the public events are on the weekend, there are concerts and stuff in the villages around the village where it takes place on weekday evenings.
Also Thursdays are now really popular for events in general because either the upper middle class can afford to take Friday off or have flexi time, or it's aimed at older retirees.@@beth12svist
Karl Kastor To be fair if you based your knowledge of the council of Nicaea on Dan Brown you didn’t really know anything about it. Not to be a dick but that book had so many historical inaccuracies it’s not even funny.
Hah ! Having distant family growing apples in Batlow, and being very aware of what the Hagia Sophia is (and very surprised Tom didn't know), this ep was a lot of fun !
I love that Chris's use of the word "primogenesis" at 9:50 appears to be a hapax legomenon. I'm guessing he was going for "primogeniture" but it kind of works as a word in its own right.
And for anyone else wondering why Matt mentioned LOBBO! for seemingly no reason: Batlow has a Big Apple, which is bigger than the trees surrounding it. (guess this part was cut from the final edit. I can see why they kept the LOBBO!! part in though 😁)
I have recently come up with a very stupid dad-joke ("My body is a temple - the Hagia Sophia", referring to my belly being the giant dome) and so far literally nobody I've told it to has gotten the reference without me explaining what the Hagia Sophia is. This apparently is a much less well known topic than I thought...
So Tom's heard of the name of where Disney World is, but not of the Hagia Sophia... although in fairness, he's made a video about one and not the other ("Disney Could Go Nuclear If They Wanted To", 2014).
I freaking love these. I actually learned about the Haiga Sophia in Art History class some ten years ago, so I knew enough to tell it was obviously Gary by the way he mentioned the dome and all, but I genuinely didn't know any of the things either he or Chris talked about inside it.
I was laughing my head off through the whole Hagia Sophia bit because I knew what it was and that both Chris and Gary were correct. So far, as I watch these videos in order, this is the only article they've picked that I definitely recognized.
Everyone's going after Tom for not knowing it but Gary was the one who put it in the pool assuming he (and everyone else) wouldn't. And Matt apparently didn't either.
The source that I learned about that graffiti from said that people thought the inscriptions were sacred until someone finally translated them, which is even funnier
Absolutely love that at the mention of the big lobster "Lobbo!" Was exclaimed with the same gusto as it was when it was first uttered nearly a decade ago
I am very surprised that Tom Scott of all people didn't know about the Hagia Sophia. I'm lucky enough to have heard just as much about it as Chris, so that segment had a hilarious dramatic irony to it.
The interesting thing is that the Hagia Sophia was indeed an orthodox cathedral and a mosque and until 2020 a museum (when it became a mosque again), but also has said graffiti in it. So at the time of recording Chris and Gary both were sort of correct.
There is a Swedish kids book about a viking named "Halvdan" that goes on a journey to Istanbul and in Hagia Sofia he carves his name in hope that his father would see it. I never relised it was based on a real carving.
Later research reveals that it's actually the "Sweating Column". We probably don't need to issue an actual correction for that. [And an update in response to comments: nope, somehow "Hagia Sophia" is a gap in my knowledge. I've never played Civilisation. If I recognise the topic, we pick a new one and reshoot.] -- Tom
Woa ive never been this early
@@Mistish Me too. Haha.
its called Ah-gee-ah sophia
@@staberas is that Ah jee ah or Ah ghee ah?
So many people commenting on how Tom should've known the Hagia Sophia... and they're right. Well I guess it's something you might not have known.
Genuinely surprised Tom didn't know what the Hagia Sophia is.
@@felixc543 It's just one of those things everyone sort of vaguely knows of, like the Louvre in France, or the Eiffel tower, or Venice
@@felixc543 I know about it because of Civilization V
@@felixc543 Personally, I probably know it from playing civ, but it's a very famous building, so it seems like the type of thing Tom would know.
Felix C the Civilization games, or the severely underrated Age of Empires 3
@@felixc543 most gamers know it from assasins creed medieval 2 or civ V
... it's like seeing Tom flip up a card naming "Big Ben" and nobody flinches. And Gary would be describing it as a government building known for its "mechanical curiosities"!!
Big Ben is the clock, the tower is the Elizabeth tower
@@sundhaug92 yea but everyone just refers to it by its clock name i hope your not the sort to say oh im going to see the elizabeth tower because if you are its pretentious
sundhaug92 Big Ben is the bell...
Big Ben is the nickname for the bell, ackthually.
Big ben's the whole tower, tomatoes are a vegetable. If enough people believe a lie and it's not a massive one that fundamentally is a gap in education then let's just make that the truth
Honestly I'm surprised Tom doesn't know what the Hagia Sophia is.
Same really
Me too! It's world famous, and Tom is not exactly ignorant about these things usually.
I'm surprised he hasn't done a video there yet.
yeah! was about to comment this
Thank Civ 5 for teaching this to me
Series-name: "Two of these people are lying"
Hagia Sofia: "Two of these people are covering the same thing truthfully"
@crsmit Ah, don't worry, people won't get it straight away
I don't understand how Tom didn't know what the Hagia Sophia is.
To be fair i do not think that most people would think about the viking Graffiti when hearing about it.
ABaumstumpf I knew about the viking graffiti but didn’t remember where it was, nor can I say I knew about Hagia Sophia (though I’ve probably encountered it and just forgotten)
At least as of right now (or a few minutes ago by the time this comment posts) the "Halfdan was here" graffiti is only referred to indirectly in the Hagia Sophia article on Wikipedia; Halfdan himself is only mentioned in the article "Runic inscriptions in Hagia Sophia".
So, technically, Chris was lying because he wasn't discussing the content of the Hagia Sophia article, but rather the content of a linked article...
I’m shocked that Tom of all people didn’t immediately recognise the Hagia Sophia, it’s not exactly a hidden gem, it’s the most iconic building of Istanbul!
I would even go as far as to say it's one of the most iconic buildings in the world!
Love W I I would say that it is not. Never heard of it and i would say that atleast as a europian something like eiffel tower is more famous.
@@lassius5464 More famous sure. But that might be THE most famous building in Europe so...
Yeah but it's also in Istanbul
@@Dezomm Nah, well known, with a lot better reasons to be known, but Eiffel-Tower, ElizabethTower (holding big ben), Golden Gate bridge, Statue of liberty, Taj Mahal - there are quit a few buildings i would say are more iconic.
I love that even knowing that Gary was telling the truth about the Hagia Sophia, I still found him incredibly untrustworthy.
That's Gary's whole charm, isn't it?
Tbh. That is just the way Gary plays this game...
It's a combination of having trouble remembering from a quick read of the article, and trying to forcibly project sounding confidence in what he's saying even as he clearly struggles to recall.
🤣🤣
Tom: "Allright guys, today we're doing 'The Eiffel Tower'. Any idea what that is?"
Gary: "A park in france with an elevator in it"
Chris: "A copyrighted light display"
Matt: "A book about conquering mount everest"
Literally this is how weird him not knowing what the Hagia Sophia is
These are exactly the sort of responses they'd give.
The… Ay-feel? Ee-fl? Matt, how do you pronounce that?
@@StichyWichy21 It’s iee-fille
@@kf10147 ikr! It’s literally one of the most famous religious/cultural sites in the world! It was built by Justinian! It’s also called the blue mosque, and in order to describe how beautiful it is, we invented a new color (turquoise-as in Turkish).
I want Tom to do a 'Things you might not know' at the Hagia Sophia now.
perhaps not
TURKEY ISNT THE BEST PLACE TO GO RIGHT NOW
...and call it "Things I might not know"
Amazing places - The Sweaty Column of the Hagia Sofia
@Öğrenci Sarp Eren Hangişi it is not about being safe, it is about supporting a regime that just happen to enjoy a bit of invasion and genocide. And if that seems familiar, practically every super power have done that.
@Öğrenci Sarp Eren Hangişi Yes I believe you friend.
This episode perfectly displays the weird coverage of Tom's knowledge. Doesn't know the Hagia Sophia, but knows everything about the shortest rivers in the world.
trivia in a nutshell
Tom doesn't make videos about well-known landmarks, though. ... just the small rivers.
To be fair, people who know often only know it because of Civ.
100% that's the only reason I know of it. Tom has said at various times that he didn't/doesn't play a lot of video games
@SomeThingOrMaybeAnother
@@SomeThingOrMaybeAnother Or, you know, having an interest in history. Which I suspect is how _Chris_ knew (considering he knew about the Viking graffitti).
Justinian I, emperor of the holy eastern roman empire: “this shall be our monument to the world - an epitaph for the greatest empire the world has ever known. generations to come will look at this dome and fall silent in awe. so they will never forget we existed”
Gary: “its a museum and it has some very nice doors.”
tom scott: its a folk band, isnt it?”
Gary: “it has a sweaty column”
I think that's the best take on "How come Tom Scott doesn't know what the Hagia Sofia is?!"
:D
Chris: "Halfdam has been here."
I'm howling at how ridiculous Gary's description of the Hagia Sophia sounds despite being completely accurate.
gary just sounds like hes talking bollocks all the time
@@HistoriaEtAl ironic how he's the archivist :)
Gary is fairly decent at lying, but when he states the truth, he is so bad at it everyone thinks he's lying. That's why it's so easy to spot when Gary is saying the truth, because he makes it sound absurd every time
Which may just be the point, since for this show's run Gary's goal was not to convince Tom and win the game, but to make Tom lose the game for his own amusement.
*Hagia Sofia*
Chris speaks. Gary speaks.
Me: wait a minute...
I honestly thought they were all telling the truth and they set a trap for Tom.
@@hebl47 yeah because it’s possible someone also named their band after The Hagia Sophia
This series has become “Tom Scott vs Finland”
I'm perplexed that Tom didn't already know about the Hagia Sofia. Most of the things in this show are extremely obscure, so something so famous popping up took me by surprise.
I mean, whats obscure or not is really subjective. The Ghost Festival last episode is really common to many people living in Asian countries and South China, but its obscure enough to Tom to not know about. I heard it and immediately got confused as to how its obscure its a major month long festival for us (though I didn't know the translation of the name was quite this literal).
@@ca-ke9493 Well, I mean, I was sure, Gary's Chinese festival was real or based on real Chinese traditions, but does it have that name and was it the article?
Although Matt's pronunciation of the supposedly Croatian festival was complete bollocks, so I was like 75% Garry, 20% Chris, 5% Matt misspelled the name of the Croatian festival...
I think he thought that there was also a folk band
@@ca-ke9493 to be fair Gary’s really good at sounding *untrustworthy* rather than trustworthy
I mean, he also didn’t know what a ute muster was, soooo… *shrug*
I knew immediately that Gary was in trouble when he went for the shortest river. Also I have the exact same pen as Tom.
As soon as he said that I was like "wait, did Tom already do the research for his river video before they recorded this?"
And yup.
Weird: I was just thinking that I hadn't seen a pen like that since I was a kid.
They're good pens. I've got them too.
@@MrMarkb68 which pen? Is that a jetstream?
@@thelastcube. Papermate Flexgrip Ultra
I honestly would have thought Tom would have known about the Hagia Sophia
Why should we? It's only one of the most important and famous religious structures in the whole world.
@@GerackSerack "Important" is hard to gauge, especially with the number of Asian, African, and Native American religious structures I know I know little about...but it's definitely among the most famous. Not "Vatican City" famous, but definitely in the top ten. There's a reason it's consistently been a wonder in Civilization despite that game's superficial and inconsistent portrayal of history.
I need him to do a sweaty column now
@@timothymclean Its pretty Vatican City famous.
Second gary went from "a river" to "a tiny river" I just thought......No Gary don't go there!
Can't wait for the upcoming sequel to this game: "all of these people are lying"
An unspecified number of these people are lying
Also, none of these people are lying.
All of these people are only pretending to lie.
Would be interesting as a twist. Instead of three, there would be four. So a 25% chance that everyone is lying.
@@Septimus_ii 3.14159265359 of these people are lying
Ever since this series began I always though “what if someone picks an article the others know about” and then instantly ruled that thought out as I thought that the chances for that to happen were so slim it pretty much couldn’t happen. Thank you Halfdan, for proving me wrong.
It'd be hard to fake not knowing anything about Hagia Sophia so points for everyone.
Honestly I would be sad to discover that none of these guys play Civilization.
Its at the point where as a liar I would give actual facts but with the wrong years/names.
That's KIND OF what Chris was doing.
@@seanc6128 apparently Tom doesn't play Civ or know anything about the site (prior to recording at least), and evidently Matt either doesn't either or just chose something unrelated because he didn't want to get in the way of whoever's article it was.
The Hagia Sofia is pretty famous. I was honestly surprised Tom didn't know about it.
Everybody who played Assassin's Creed Revelations probably immediately snorted.
Also, Chris...may have just invented the metagame...for this game.
Or played Civ
Yeah my immediate thought was "oh, hey, I've climbed on that building.'
I've played Revelations ages ago, so I was just mildly confused because I didn't know where I've heard it before
I've played Revelations twice in the past 5 years and I had no clue what it was lmao
@@marcusalm7350 yup. Thank you Civilization IV.
Clearly Tom has never played Civilization.
Or AC Revelations
Yup :p
Or CK2
Or simply paid attention in history class.
Let's face it, the outro has become "We still don't have an outro. Byeee!"
VooDooTrois Like WarOwl’s “I still have no closer”
Genuinely loved how Chris just flexed on Tom in this one.
"You'd have been glassed by now."
Then they'd have to bury you and no one deserves to be Glastonbury'd.
Eeeeyy... cue the mournful pun laughter
Well, better than what happened to Reach.
Well the hagia Sophia is relatively famous for this show
Anyone who plays the Civ games... TBH even before I'd played Civ I'd heard of it. Very strange that Tom's not heard of it given that he travels so much. I guess he's spent so long learning about other interesting things that he's had no time for this one.
It’s world famous really like probably as famous as the arc de triomphe
I dropped down into the comments and immediately realized I'm in good company. Seems like everyone who watches Tom's channel already knows about Hagia Sophia from one source or another (oddly, mostly from video games, which might actually explain why Tom didn't immediately recognize it. In my case: Age of Empires II. It's the Byzantine Wonder).
More people played the Sid Meier's Civilization games than Age of Empires. But, yeah, for once we have proof that games can be informative and/or educational and fun at the same time.
As for me, I read about it in random articles, but most of my knowledge came from the Extra Credit's videos on Justinian.
It’s strange to me that most people know it from video games because I learned about it in history class. I guess British people have enough domestic history that they can’t fit that in.
@@mmilcz833 I think the fact that I was playing that game in Middle School helped. It beat my History Classes to the punch. :)
For me it was growing up watching James Burke's Connections. The Hagia Sophia is regularly featured in Connections 2, especially the New Harmony episode. An absolute must watch bunch of series. :-)
@@mmilcz833 In my case it was an online Humanities class (yes, during Covid) that consisted of quizzes based on informational videos. And the quiz questions were all like, multiple choice where all the answers are plausible but only one is worded the way the video worded it, meaning you had to watch the video AND take detailed notes if you wanted to get the right answers.
I believe Gary believes the goal of the game is to get to rub it in Tom's face when he is telling the truth but Tom doesn't pick him.
As soon as Gary mentioned the 3 feet river, I remembered tom's video on it and I knew he messed up
As penance for not knowing what the Hagia Sophia is, Tom now must do a video on the Varangian Guard - the elite guard of the Byzantine Emperors that were primarily made up of VIKINGS!
Honestly the pure joy of LOBBO has cheered me up no end
But does he have an outline of 4x tinnies in his shadow?!
@@Tarantio1983 His raring body is there for two purposes only: tourism, and keeping tinnies cool in his enormous clawed shadow.
...drive through pie shop?
I genuinely thought the Hagia Sophia thing was a joke, but it kept going
How didn't you know immediately what the Hagia Sofia was? Its one of the most famous buildings in the world.
I'm honestly surprised Tom didn't know it..
Legitimately, I made casual reference to it just two days ago and I safely assumed the person I was talking with would know what it was. Very surprised Tom wouldn't know it...
So famous that most people in the world have probably never heard of it
@@shanematthews1985 To be fair, I'd say the majority of people haven't heard of the majority of famous things.
I honestly got confused for a minute b/c they were both saying true things. I figured one of them had worded it oddly to be technically false, but I couldn't pick out the lie.
The change of the T-shirt was a huge mistake, Tom lost his powers and now he doesn't even know what Hagia Sophia is.
Gary: the shortest river in the country is 3ft
Tom: you sure about that?
Er, river?
Genuinely shocked tom didn't know what Hagia Sofia is.
At this point, "We still don't have an outro" is the outro.
Yes, that's the joke.
it is like how Adam Savages, (and others) podcast is called "still untitled - the Adam Savage project" because the hosts couldn't pick a name.
How the hell does Hagia Sofia work for this show?? It's a very very famous world landmark...?
Apparently, Tom didn't know about it. Not everyone does. Although, this is unusual for Tom, seeing he's well traveled and well read. Just goes to show you how really big and wonderful our small blue marble truly is.
This is one of the quintessential episodes. Gary convincing Tom it's not his article no matter if it is. Chris bullshitting expertly. Matt being clueless but somehow Tom still chose him.
that's right tell Gary never stop calling us readers, it makes me feel classy
We're in the comments section now, that makes us readers doesn't it!
@@Dappdude i read this in Gary's voice.
It's also subtle (and well-deserved!) praise for the person writing the subtitles.
I'll echo being stunned that Tom didn't know about this, that said, is Gary trying to throw this? Because seriously, I have trouble thinking of how you could have described the Hagia Sophia worse than he did
I'm pretty sure Gary's self-assigned role in this game is chaos, points don't matter, the confusion and frustration on Tom's face does.
When I saw "Hagia Sophia" I was like "Oh it's another Green Monster situation where something has the same name as another much more famous thing." But nope. Actual Hagia Sophia. So interesting since it's like taught to 11-year-olds as curriculum here...
How did the world traveller Tom Scott not know what the Hagia Sophia is?
1:55
Didn't Tom go to a
Library of Rare Colors on his main channel? How is he so surprised that there's a color museum?
@@Shinela I mean, he released that video six months ago. Is this footage well over six months old?
@@ltjgambrose Maybe. If the color stuff needed less editing, as it's single person direct to camera interspersed with shots of objects. I imagine these take quite a bit of editing effort.
I have no idea how tom has never heard of the Hagia Sofia
It just goes to show you that even really Smart people have gaps in their knowledge.
After seeing all these comments, I have no idea how *I* have never heard of it! Not saying I'm all that smart, just the sheer numbers, hahaha! (Although, as soon as Gary started his description I thought, yeah I can see that.)
I am gradually becoming more and more impressed at Tom Scott's skill at designing games / panel shows. He has not only re-created much of the premise of "Would I Lie To You?", he has successfully developed a unique twist on the format.
Two caveats: 1) it's more like Call My Bluff in that it's 3 definitions, only one of which is true (in WILTY only the guest section "This is My...." reflects that); and 2) I think it stems from Matt's idea in the TechDif Experiments Format Laboratory for "The Tail Wagging The Dog", hence why I think he's given the role of explaining the rules for this game in this series.
Every time my wireless headphones give off a "battery low" notification, I find myself saying "Batlow!" And finding this video again
One thing I like about this series is that it's something that we can do at home with friends.
I did a couple rounds with my friends, it's a lot of fun.
Gotta do it in Matt’s kitchen. Integral part of the concept.
(4:10) It's an interesting tactic, because this was supposed to be about Wikipedia and not their own website
"Solomon, I have outdone thee" - Justinian, proclaiming that his church (the Hagia Sophia) is better than temple designed by GOD.
It's some wee church in the Near East, innit
to be fair, Adonai probably gave a design that solomon could do, as opposed to what Jehovah's design for Justinian
i love how the subtitles give chris a question mark after every sentence when he describes batlow
Me, a New South Welshman, watching this, with a batlow pink lady apple sat in front of me, I think I had a heart palpitation.
Gary was having a "....Nail bar?...." moment when trying to describe the Hagia Sophia.
And Garry suffers the theatrical “swoosh” of the pen, yet again.
I struck Chris out when he said “named for the battle low”. I’ve read a lot about place name etymology
The Hagia Sofia, this is a great format for trying to remember something you've heard of, but can't remember what it is.
Hahahaha ikr, I vaguely knew it was some important structure in Europe
When Matt said "folk music festival on Thursday" I knew he was lying. A festival on a Thursday? Dead obvious
I pictured a festival going from Thursday till Sunday, though. There's a folklore festival in Czechia that basically goes like that; although most of the public events are on the weekend, there are concerts and stuff in the villages around the village where it takes place on weekday evenings.
Also Thursdays are now really popular for events in general because either the upper middle class can afford to take Friday off or have flexi time, or it's aimed at older retirees.@@beth12svist
In this episode, TOM DOESNT KNOW ONE OF THE WONDERS OF THE WORLD.
Everyone is the comments crediting games for their knowledge of Hagia Sophia and I'm here like those Dan Brown books weren't for nothing!
These books had a lot of interesting facts in them. I impressed my teacher by knowing about the Council of Nicaea
Whereas I've been there.
Karl Kastor To be fair if you based your knowledge of the council of Nicaea on Dan Brown you didn’t really know anything about it. Not to be a dick but that book had so many historical inaccuracies it’s not even funny.
@@qwertyTRiG lucky!
@@sitas9827 It is truly impressive.
Hah ! Having distant family growing apples in Batlow, and being very aware of what the Hagia Sophia is (and very surprised Tom didn't know), this ep was a lot of fun !
The fudge?! Such a well-traveled man as Tom surely would know what Hagia Sophia is!
Batlow
Me, lives in Australia: s'where we get our apples from
I love that Chris's use of the word "primogenesis" at 9:50 appears to be a hapax legomenon. I'm guessing he was going for "primogeniture" but it kind of works as a word in its own right.
Ouch, that's an unlucky curveball from Garry in the second half!
I'm really surprised that you aren't familiar with the Hagia Sophia, which is one of the great cultural sites of the world.
I love how absolutely unconvincing Gary was about Hagia Sophia
Well, technically now it's 3 of these people are lying as the Hagia Sofia is now a mosque again
F
Gregory made my column moist, so I had to fit it through Sophia's nice door.
And for anyone else wondering why Matt mentioned LOBBO! for seemingly no reason: Batlow has a Big Apple, which is bigger than the trees surrounding it. (guess this part was cut from the final edit. I can see why they kept the LOBBO!! part in though 😁)
Halfdan carved these runes is one of my favorite viking graffiti. There are many.
I'm surprised Tom hadn't heard of Hagia Sophia before.
“Careful, Icarus.”
I see Gary is a Craig Ferguson aficionado.
Best Geoff Peterson impression: "Careful, Icarus"
That's it ... I'm binging Citation Needed ... for the third time ...
Starting with drive-through booze.
"Halfdan" is an old Norse name meaning "half-Dane."
I have recently come up with a very stupid dad-joke ("My body is a temple - the Hagia Sophia", referring to my belly being the giant dome) and so far literally nobody I've told it to has gotten the reference without me explaining what the Hagia Sophia is. This apparently is a much less well known topic than I thought...
So Tom's heard of the name of where Disney World is, but not of the Hagia Sophia... although in fairness, he's made a video about one and not the other ("Disney Could Go Nuclear If They Wanted To", 2014).
I freaking love these.
I actually learned about the Haiga Sophia in Art History class some ten years ago, so I knew enough to tell it was obviously Gary by the way he mentioned the dome and all, but I genuinely didn't know any of the things either he or Chris talked about inside it.
There’s that damn cushion again behind Tom and Chris…
Thumbs up for the color museum, my childhood was a wild ride
The Hagia Sophia now deserves a place in the "Things you might not know" series.
Yes, I've been to the colour museum in Bradford.
I was laughing my head off through the whole Hagia Sophia bit because I knew what it was and that both Chris and Gary were correct. So far, as I watch these videos in order, this is the only article they've picked that I definitely recognized.
Everyone's going after Tom for not knowing it but Gary was the one who put it in the pool assuming he (and everyone else) wouldn't. And Matt apparently didn't either.
Everyone else in here talking about Civ and I'm thinking "I climbed that in Assassin's Creed Revelations!"
i love how Tom had a 2/3 chance to get it right, and still got it wrong
It's nice to know that the Varangian Guard are still messing with people a thousand years later.
The source that I learned about that graffiti from said that people thought the inscriptions were sacred until someone finally translated them, which is even funnier
No one:
Civilization players: How does Tom not know about Hagia Sophia
Anyone who plays side Myers civilization should know this.
Zhong Ping
You got both halves of the name wrong but everyone agrees anyway
Side Myer is my favourite game designer
My sides are splitting because you called Sid Meier Side Meyer
S I D E M Y E R S
Can I just say that I love this format so, so much! And thank you that you listened and now print the topics.
been all around the world, Didn't immediately know the hagia sophia, idgi
Honestly shocked that Tom didn't know what Hagia Sophia was xD. I thought that was super common knowledge (like the Taj Mahal or the Parthenon).
" it flows with cider into another larger lemon" XD im literally crying!
Absolutely love that at the mention of the big lobster "Lobbo!" Was exclaimed with the same gusto as it was when it was first uttered nearly a decade ago
While i did enjoy citation needed a bit more this series definitely serves as a viable replacement. You guys are hilarious 👍
I am very surprised that Tom Scott of all people didn't know about the Hagia Sophia. I'm lucky enough to have heard just as much about it as Chris, so that segment had a hilarious dramatic irony to it.
I like how Garry's batlow river thing is something Tom talked about, the whole how short is the shortest river thing.
Oh wow Tom *said that too.*
The interesting thing is that the Hagia Sophia was indeed an orthodox cathedral and a mosque and until 2020 a museum (when it became a mosque again), but also has said graffiti in it.
So at the time of recording Chris and Gary both were sort of correct.
Rewatching the Lobster episode, and Chris looks like he was still in High School
There is a Swedish kids book about a viking named "Halvdan" that goes on a journey to Istanbul and in Hagia Sofia he carves his name in hope that his father would see it. I never relised it was based on a real carving.