The answer is always and forever use Manacles. Nothing but Manacles. Just Manacles. Except when the situation for his Blight comes up, he needs to self heal, or you need to press the Abom Button and nuke something down.
20:31 I now not only exist in the Shuffle Cinematic Universe, but it is heavily implied by Shuffle himself that the relationship between me and Hellion, a long-standing fan ship that millions wished to be real, is finally canon
If we ever get Abomination in DD2, I think it would be really cool to tie his transformation into melting down, kinda like how Flag gets "Toxic" instead. Id like to see at least one more hero play around the concept of intentionally melting down and dealing with the relationship fallout that comes with it.
Just caught up with your other guides and now we get a new one for my goat abom, thanks for still making videos on dd1 shuff. Doing my first bloodmoon playthrough and my eldritch slayer abom has been an absolute shambler farmer
Man i loved playing abomination in DD1, I was one my fav chars besides occultist and jester, I feel kinda sad when I play DD2 and notice the fact that I won't see abomination in 3D
>Shuffle thinks Abomb is D tier >Also Shuffle doing guide on Abomb 3 years later Shuffle finally gone irrational from all these no heal runs and Grave Robber fanfics, we lost him.
Still a D tier compared to possible other party setup you can roll ignoring Abom - everything is in comparison man. Definitely not the strongest unit but fun to build around!
I really liked DD2 - but somehow once I beat all the bosses the first time around and unlocked everything from the altar, I fell off quickly. Watching this video reminds me of how much I still love DD1 and find the replay value much higher. I feel the urge to go in and start a new DD1 run now!
Shuffle with a new Darkest Dungeon vid 🙏 My favorite team to run: Occultist, Abom, Grave Robber, Bounty Hunter. I never transform Abom into the Beast. He's controls the battle with Occultist. The game names the team "Bad Karma" if you switch Abom and Grave robber places. I don't like to have GR moves to 1st after using Lunge. Still a cool name though.
Great video, love your DD character guides! Small correction tho, Slam from Rank 4 is also not a thing in Butcher's Circus too! If Abom happens to be in that position due to a push, the player is forced to transform for the stress and just move forward.
Yey! Not a huge fan of DD, but Abom was always my favorite to party around - it's fun to mitigate downsides and unleash that carry beast to solo bosses! thanks for the guide - learned smth new from here for sure!
Vanilla Darkest Dungeon players hate broken key. We got punished for no reason despite not having DLC. I don't understand why Red Hook couldn't just add stun downside only when you instal DLC instead of hard coded to entire game. Also yeah broken key is very busted trinket, it's game changer. The difference how strong character with it is day and night
Shuffle, you might not remember my comments, but a year or so ago I was a complete noob that found your content. I have never watched a singular Hero Guide of yours, but I watched enough more generalized guides to beat the game and really enjoy it. I think of all the heroes, Abomination is my absolute favorite. I haven't even watched this video yet, and I already know how dope Manacle is. Decent reach, great stuns, fine enough damage. He can self heal and manage his own stress, great for stalling and recovering after a fight. The blight move is alright if the situation for it comes up. Very few times have I found the need to press the Abom Button, but when you NEED damage or somebody's going to die, if the team is built to handle him he will shred relentlessly. He was my first Unique unit and my first Level 6. I swear by him so hard.
Started on Switch last week My first Abom reminded I hope to get Library of Ruina next month... *MASOCHISTIC* "FTAGN!!" Me: [hears Second Warning in my head] Well. $#!+ ... them guys DED. [They did survive... Barely]
How to make abomb powerful: 1°-equip padlock of transference 2°-equip broke key 3°-become a stun monster with high speed and a blight monster against 2° and 3° position monsters (Only transform when you need a lot of damage really really fast)
A few things I think would be pretty cool is: 1. The more a character sees Abom transform, the less they get stressed by it 2. Transform doesn’t stress other Abom’s
I didn't even notice this upload! Just so glad you seem to be back with doing DD1 hero guides. I can't wait for the best one to be Crusader, he deserves the recognition as one of the best sleeper healers/stress healers!
One team works well for me is from left to right: Crusader Houndmaster Abom Occultist What makes the team work so great is that it works no matter what you want to do with abom. If you want to transform you have more then enough stress heal to not care, and if you think transforming is unnecessary you can just put him on stun duty and let every one else focus on damage. It is a team that requires me to think ahaid a lot more then usually and ut us somewhat weak in prolonged fights but it us shockingly versatile.
@@-someguywhoisadegeneratefo1487 Support Crusaders all the way, especially when paired with other dancers. Holy Lance murder, stress heals and heals all day long, with lots of durability. His speed is the only weakness, and there are workarounds for that. It's even come to the point that I usually don't bother taking Smite, his stun is in most cases better option for the fourth move.
As Abomination being my favorite hero and as I am a simp for him returning for DD2. Broken key and beast bile... Couldn't have just left his stun chance alone and could have let bile pick two targets between rank 1-3. Feelz bad man.
Glad to see a new and you guide. I just recently got both darkest dungeon 1 and 2 and the guides have been very helpful. do you plan on doing a and you guide for each of the characters?
Abom in butchers circus cannot use slam in rank 4, and pushing him to rank 4 is one of the best ways to counter this beast of a hero. I think he would be bountyhunter levels of insane if he could do slam from rank 4.
I actually had some good runs using an Abomination and plague doctor and Shield Bearer and utilizing those damage over time and stun effects to great success. I was forcing myself to use different team strategies and groups, and found this particular setup to work quite well. The front slot was either heavy precision damage, or buff/tank iirc. That said, Ive still never finished this game, lol. So take my comments with a grain of salt (as you should for ALL internet opinions)
Human form Abomination is fine and all but as far as stun bots go there are better choices and in Human form that's mostly what he's good for. Beast form would have been better if all his skills ramped up rather than just Rake, as in giving the Abomination a smaller damage buff than 25% but making it generic and for all his skills, so say 5% on each, that way the Abomination can still ramp up his damage while not being locked to just using Rake, which in itself requires 3 whole turns to finally see some benefit in terms of single target damage. As it stands though, I can see transformed Abomination being very strong in long fights against tough bosses, if the boss remains in range of Rake or if your other party members can drag the boss into range consistently. The main difference is in the preparation for said boss fight, with the camping skills focusing more on stress reduction to not be forced to lose tempo during the fight itself without risking getting afflicted. Is this a winning strategy? Hard to say considering Leper requires much less work to get going, thus lowering the opportunity cost of building for the Abomination which makes the rest of the party stronger, but still requires setup of his own. In long fights the Abomination will absolutely out-scale the Leper if he can consistently just spam Rake however the Leper actually does offer flexibility if that isn't the best option in a given turn. Than you have other strategies like marks, DoTs, etc, which tend to be more consistent than either the Abomination or Leper and are generally the preferred boss killing methods.
Easily my favorite pair with GR, for the + damage against blight. Basically sets up damage for GR and CCs. Only ever transform when a shuffle knocks the frontline out of position and I need damage.
Great video! I usually keep only 1 Abomination in my roster, mostly for the sake of variety. Pretty silly that the best way to play a transforming character... is to keep him in his regular form and have him slap things with chains. Are there any good rework/rebalance mods that give him more options, but don't completely change the character? Could be a nice change of pace in new DD1 campaign.
I completed dd1 a couple times but I have never gotten the trinket that increases stun chance. In anycase, I love abom conceptually though I ended up using two in my team in the ruins for a lot of blight and stuns. Surprisingly simple character despite what he might initially appear as.
Got the game on Switch last week and I am planning to do full DLC runs before I think of buying more games! Just one question: should I grind to upgrade gear or Hero Levels before I try to defeat Bosses (Necromancer and the other mentioned under "Successfully completed first foray" on that screen starting the week) or do I just need strats and trinkets?
Serious question: how do y‘all always manage to get so much money in the game? Especially regarding the perfect characters? Locking in quirks and getting rid of bad ones is soooo expensive
A Fake Carpet Cleaner once said, "Abomination may be considered one of the worst heroes in Darkest Dungeon, however, this is incorrect. He's actually the worst character.".
i know i'm gonna be the nth person saying this but he cannot slam from 4 in the butcher's circus. the thought of alone that infuriates me since he's so overtuned in pvp.
Wasn't sure how to use manacles but I'm glad this 30 minute guide was made to show me how to use the skill
Loll😂😂😂
The answer is always and forever use Manacles. Nothing but Manacles. Just Manacles.
Except when the situation for his Blight comes up, he needs to self heal, or you need to press the Abom Button and nuke something down.
the virago in the background dodging every occ debuff was so funny
Hag or Pounder aint boss of the Weald, but Virago is.
@@ExtremeMan10giant too, dude hitting harder than swine god
20:31 I now not only exist in the Shuffle Cinematic Universe, but it is heavily implied by Shuffle himself that the relationship between me and Hellion, a long-standing fan ship that millions wished to be real, is finally canon
If we ever get Abomination in DD2, I think it would be really cool to tie his transformation into melting down, kinda like how Flag gets "Toxic" instead. Id like to see at least one more hero play around the concept of intentionally melting down and dealing with the relationship fallout that comes with it.
I was actually thinking that if he was at 5+ stress, he would be in beast mode, with a meltdown hitting your whole party as well as his health
Abom vomitting mid fight always cracks me up lol
Let's get this straight: Shuff ranted about Abom before explaining him
Just caught up with your other guides and now we get a new one for my goat abom, thanks for still making videos on dd1 shuff. Doing my first bloodmoon playthrough and my eldritch slayer abom has been an absolute shambler farmer
Eldritch slayer such a good quirk
Man i loved playing abomination in DD1, I was one my fav chars besides occultist and jester, I feel kinda sad when I play DD2 and notice the fact that I won't see abomination in 3D
yes DD1! Sadly I personally think dd2 pales in comparison to dd1 so glad to see u on it again
>Shuffle thinks Abomb is D tier
>Also Shuffle doing guide on Abomb 3 years later
Shuffle finally gone irrational from all these no heal runs and Grave Robber fanfics, we lost him.
GR fanfics?
Still a D tier compared to possible other party setup you can roll ignoring Abom - everything is in comparison man. Definitely not the strongest unit but fun to build around!
Abombination is D tier. Almost everyone who think otherwise forgot or never played Abomination without color of madness DLC broken key trinket
@@1God1Fury Lol true
I've been looking forward to this
I really liked DD2 - but somehow once I beat all the bosses the first time around and unlocked everything from the altar, I fell off quickly. Watching this video reminds me of how much I still love DD1 and find the replay value much higher. I feel the urge to go in and start a new DD1 run now!
Shuffle with a new Darkest Dungeon vid 🙏 My favorite team to run: Occultist, Abom, Grave Robber, Bounty Hunter. I never transform Abom into the Beast. He's controls the battle with Occultist. The game names the team "Bad Karma" if you switch Abom and Grave robber places. I don't like to have GR moves to 1st after using Lunge. Still a cool name though.
abom is so cool, hope to see him in dd2 one day
Great video, love your DD character guides!
Small correction tho, Slam from Rank 4 is also not a thing in Butcher's Circus too! If Abom happens to be in that position due to a push, the player is forced to transform for the stress and just move forward.
Yey! Not a huge fan of DD, but Abom was always my favorite to party around - it's fun to mitigate downsides and unleash that carry beast to solo bosses! thanks for the guide - learned smth new from here for sure!
Woah! This threw me for a loop. I thought you were done with DD1 guides
Vanilla Darkest Dungeon players hate broken key. We got punished for no reason despite not having DLC. I don't understand why Red Hook couldn't just add stun downside only when you instal DLC instead of hard coded to entire game. Also yeah broken key is very busted trinket, it's game changer. The difference how strong character with it is day and night
Shuffle, you might not remember my comments, but a year or so ago I was a complete noob that found your content. I have never watched a singular Hero Guide of yours, but I watched enough more generalized guides to beat the game and really enjoy it.
I think of all the heroes, Abomination is my absolute favorite. I haven't even watched this video yet, and I already know how dope Manacle is. Decent reach, great stuns, fine enough damage. He can self heal and manage his own stress, great for stalling and recovering after a fight. The blight move is alright if the situation for it comes up. Very few times have I found the need to press the Abom Button, but when you NEED damage or somebody's going to die, if the team is built to handle him he will shred relentlessly.
He was my first Unique unit and my first Level 6. I swear by him so hard.
Started on Switch last week
My first Abom reminded I hope to get Library of Ruina next month...
*MASOCHISTIC*
"FTAGN!!"
Me: [hears Second Warning in my head] Well. $#!+ ... them guys DED.
[They did survive... Barely]
How to make abomb powerful:
1°-equip padlock of transference
2°-equip broke key
3°-become a stun monster with high speed and a blight monster against 2° and 3° position monsters
(Only transform when you need a lot of damage really really fast)
A few things I think would be pretty cool is:
1. The more a character sees Abom transform, the less they get stressed by it
2. Transform doesn’t stress other Abom’s
I was a bit surprised not to see an Audrey-Abom team at the end. It was a great chance to showcase grave robber, and this duo is amazing.
I am so glad this series is continuing. I don't much care for DD2, but you produce some of the best DD content out there.
I can't wait for the holiday so I can chill and play DD and DD2.Until then I'm just binge watching your vids 🤩
Been waitin' for this a long time. Thanks, shuff - keep doin' your thing.
I didn't even notice this upload! Just so glad you seem to be back with doing DD1 hero guides. I can't wait for the best one to be Crusader, he deserves the recognition as one of the best sleeper healers/stress healers!
One team works well for me is from left to right:
Crusader
Houndmaster
Abom
Occultist
What makes the team work so great is that it works no matter what you want to do with abom.
If you want to transform you have more then enough stress heal to not care, and if you think transforming is unnecessary you can just put him on stun duty and let every one else focus on damage.
It is a team that requires me to think ahaid a lot more then usually and ut us somewhat weak in prolonged fights but it us shockingly versatile.
When you say, “from left to right” are you saying that Crusader is starting in the back, or did you mean from right to left?
Yes crusader starts in the backline.
@@NycooriasThen that does sound pretty interesting. Nice team 👍
@@-someguywhoisadegeneratefo1487 Support Crusaders all the way, especially when paired with other dancers. Holy Lance murder, stress heals and heals all day long, with lots of durability. His speed is the only weakness, and there are workarounds for that. It's even come to the point that I usually don't bother taking Smite, his stun is in most cases better option for the fourth move.
Nice. Hope you release individual character guides for dd2 next. Really looking forward to it!
Here :) ruclips.net/video/0XgdwC4Kshs/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
This is heart warming to see ❤️, I hope you do these guides out of personal enjoyment and not out of obligation or views/etc
As Abomination being my favorite hero and as I am a simp for him returning for DD2. Broken key and beast bile... Couldn't have just left his stun chance alone and could have let bile pick two targets between rank 1-3. Feelz bad man.
DD1 videos are back!
Amazing video as usual
Glad to see a new and you guide. I just recently got both darkest dungeon 1 and 2 and the guides have been very helpful. do you plan on doing a and you guide for each of the characters?
Was literally looking for this yesterday and here it is uploaded lol
Glad to see my boy getting some attention!
THANK U SHUFF
Really REALLY hoping he comes to DD2
Abom in butchers circus cannot use slam in rank 4, and pushing him to rank 4 is one of the best ways to counter this beast of a hero.
I think he would be bountyhunter levels of insane if he could do slam from rank 4.
My lack of BC experience shows lol
People don't think the Leper is religious? He's literally a direct reference to King Baldwin the IV of Jerusalem, the Leper King.
Possible
@@therealaubergineman9914 Sounds like sarcasm. I hope that's sarcasm.
Its finally here
Great Video as usual!
In Ruins, Dangerous stress Enemies almost focus on Highwayman if he have more stress than others.
So he can reposte more effectively.
I actually had some good runs using an Abomination and plague doctor and Shield Bearer and utilizing those damage over time and stun effects to great success. I was forcing myself to use different team strategies and groups, and found this particular setup to work quite well. The front slot was either heavy precision damage, or buff/tank iirc.
That said, Ive still never finished this game, lol. So take my comments with a grain of salt (as you should for ALL internet opinions)
This was good video yaya
It's here!
Human form Abomination is fine and all but as far as stun bots go there are better choices and in Human form that's mostly what he's good for. Beast form would have been better if all his skills ramped up rather than just Rake, as in giving the Abomination a smaller damage buff than 25% but making it generic and for all his skills, so say 5% on each, that way the Abomination can still ramp up his damage while not being locked to just using Rake, which in itself requires 3 whole turns to finally see some benefit in terms of single target damage. As it stands though, I can see transformed Abomination being very strong in long fights against tough bosses, if the boss remains in range of Rake or if your other party members can drag the boss into range consistently. The main difference is in the preparation for said boss fight, with the camping skills focusing more on stress reduction to not be forced to lose tempo during the fight itself without risking getting afflicted.
Is this a winning strategy? Hard to say considering Leper requires much less work to get going, thus lowering the opportunity cost of building for the Abomination which makes the rest of the party stronger, but still requires setup of his own. In long fights the Abomination will absolutely out-scale the Leper if he can consistently just spam Rake however the Leper actually does offer flexibility if that isn't the best option in a given turn. Than you have other strategies like marks, DoTs, etc, which tend to be more consistent than either the Abomination or Leper and are generally the preferred boss killing methods.
For me, Christmas has come early this year!
long awaites guide wondwrdul😊
Easily my favorite pair with GR, for the + damage against blight. Basically sets up damage for GR and CCs. Only ever transform when a shuffle knocks the frontline out of position and I need damage.
Abormination being the only hero with less then 100% base stun chance is the most unnessecary dick move ever, why did they do him like that!
It has high damage and acc compared to most other stuns though, it's a fair trade off if you prefer nuking to stunning but want to stun sometimes too
Abom is what gave me that "aha!" moment and taught me what I was missing about this game.
I've started only abom save once and I think it's time to load it😂
Abomination cant slam in position 4 in the circus
Why doesn't darkest dungeon 2 not feel as "satisfying" as darkest dungeon 1?
It's a game in early access?
12:00 You still cant use Slam in Rank 4 even in Butcher's Circus
Finally!
Great video! I usually keep only 1 Abomination in my roster, mostly for the sake of variety. Pretty silly that the best way to play a transforming character... is to keep him in his regular form and have him slap things with chains. Are there any good rework/rebalance mods that give him more options, but don't completely change the character? Could be a nice change of pace in new DD1 campaign.
I'm not sure on the mods. I don't play much outside of vanilla usually. Komrade might have a rework though. Their name should pop up in the workshop
I completed dd1 a couple times but I have never gotten the trinket that increases stun chance.
In anycase, I love abom conceptually though I ended up using two in my team in the ruins for a lot of blight and stuns. Surprisingly simple character despite what he might initially appear as.
POG!
Got the game on Switch last week and I am planning to do full DLC runs before I think of buying more games!
Just one question: should I grind to upgrade gear or Hero Levels before I try to defeat Bosses (Necromancer and the other mentioned under "Successfully completed first foray" on that screen starting the week) or do I just need strats and trinkets?
If I wasnt so happy to see this I would definitely be pointing out how late this is lol
Can't reduce dodge if you don't hit them, Occultist. One thing I hate about high dodge enemies
Serious question: how do y‘all always manage to get so much money in the game? Especially regarding the perfect characters? Locking in quirks and getting rid of bad ones is soooo expensive
Finally man 👍
Whoa 😮😮😮 I thought this vid's not supposed to exist...
Love that youre still making these
Long video to say get stun trinkets, spam manacles.
Are you gonna redo all your guides?
Is the sequel coming to Switch soon? I want to beat this one first but it'd be nice to have BOTH...
In the works but no date yet. Sometime this year
On Jennifer?
WE’RE SO BACK BOIS!
I must be blind, but I can't find a "and You" for the Crusader. Have you done one?
Not yet. I'll get back to dd1 stuff soon :)
Looking forward it!
shaq bing bong
Abomination belongs in the warrens enemy roster. Not your party 😅
A Fake Carpet Cleaner once said, "Abomination may be considered one of the worst heroes in Darkest Dungeon, however, this is incorrect. He's actually the worst character.".
Time Paradox ?
i know i'm gonna be the nth person saying this but he cannot slam from 4 in the butcher's circus. the thought of alone that infuriates me since he's so overtuned in pvp.
How to play Abomination ? Press Manacles. You are welcome (seriously, why didn't RH rework him ?).
Because he doesn't need to be. Abom with broken key and a second good trinket is a powerhouse in position 2, where he has access to all of his kit
Wait a dd1 vid in 2023???
Step 1: dont
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11:59 eerrrrm actually shuff, it can't be used rank 4 in butchers circus, I thought you were good at this game 🤓